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Re: Venezuela warns of refugee exodus to Caribbean countries

Postby EmilioA » May 18th, 2016, 2:04 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:How does a country of almost 1 million square kilometres not be close to self sufficient with food??


The answer in this case in price controls. Prices of products are fixed regardless of the actual cost in making them. So both agriculture and industry in Venezuela have collapsed because it simply costs more to grow or manufacture something than you are allowed to sell it for . Maduro was able to hide this collapse because high oil prices allowed Venezuela to import food. Now with oil prices low the destruction of the Venezuelan economy is open for everyone to see.

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Re: Venezuela warns of refugee exodus to Caribbean countries

Postby Miktay » May 18th, 2016, 3:27 pm

RBphoto wrote:
Miktay wrote:
RBphoto wrote:
RBphoto wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:How does a country of almost 1 million square kilometres not be close to self sufficient with food??


Socialism.


Oh.. and how is Trinidad different?


Socialism + the following:

1. Refuse 2 genuflect 2 massa overseer...the IMF

2. Repatriated gold reserves held in forin

3. Label Uncle Sam Satan every chance they get. :lol:


I meant on food sufficiency. If oil implodes we will have to eat grass just like Venezuela.


Unless there's a disaster of Biblical proportions...that iz unlikely 2 occur in T&T

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Re: Venezuela warns of refugee exodus to Caribbean countries

Postby Miktay » May 18th, 2016, 3:28 pm

EmilioA wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:How does a country of almost 1 million square kilometres not be close to self sufficient with food??


The answer in this case in price controls. Prices of products are fixed regardless of the actual cost in making them. So both agriculture and industry in Venezuela have collapsed because it simply costs more to grow or manufacture something than you are allowed to sell it for . Maduro was able to hide this collapse because high oil prices allowed Venezuela to import food. Now with oil prices low the destruction of the Venezuelan economy is open for everyone to see.


AKA gubbament intervention.

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Re: Venezuela warns of refugee exodus to Caribbean countries

Postby zoom rader » May 19th, 2016, 9:47 pm

Ok folks, prepare for real Parang this xmas as the National Security Minister says this country must prepare for potential Venezuelan refugees.

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Re: Venezuela warns of refugee exodus to Caribbean countries

Postby j.o.e » May 19th, 2016, 9:55 pm

Chinese, Guyanese, Jamaicans here already ...... Why not ?
All ah we is one famalaaaaaay!!!

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Re: Venezuela warns of refugee exodus to Caribbean countries

Postby EmilioA » May 19th, 2016, 10:02 pm

I look forward to our local Trumpist party forming.

Wait for when the govt start putting the Venezuelans on Cepep and kicking the lazy Trinis to the curb. Our local business community must be salivating at the prospect of all that cheap labour.

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Re: Venezuela warns of refugee exodus to Caribbean countries

Postby zoom rader » May 20th, 2016, 12:10 am

EmilioA wrote:I look forward to our local Trumpist party forming.

Wait for when the govt start putting the Venezuelans on Cepep and kicking the lazy Trinis to the curb. Our local business community must be salivating at the prospect of all that cheap labour.



Some of the vennies here already are not cepep material , there are a few in south that have gone into the food business.

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Re: Venezuela warns of refugee exodus to Caribbean countries

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » May 20th, 2016, 2:14 am

Why do all these ministers of national security fail so hard? from Martin to Garry to this current one whatever the hell is his name. Literally everyone of them is a massive failure, lazy and incompetent. "No law to stop Venezuelans" and he leaves it as that, instead of saying "No law to stop Venezuelans THEREFORE we must create news laws ASAP?

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Postby cherrypopper » May 20th, 2016, 6:20 am

EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:Why do all these ministers of national security fail so hard? from Martin to Garry to this current one whatever the hell is his name. Literally everyone of them is a massive failure, lazy and incompetent. "No law to stop Venezuelans" and he leaves it as that, instead of saying "No law to stop Venezuelans THEREFORE we must create news laws ASAP?

Yuh think the minister eh want to dig out a pum pum too?

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Venezuela warns of refugee exodus to Caribbean countries

Postby ruffrider27 » May 20th, 2016, 7:18 am

Done know
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Re: Venezuela warns of refugee exodus to Caribbean countries

Postby Habit7 » May 20th, 2016, 7:48 am

If some of allyuh men actually go to Venezuela (not just Margarita) and interact with Venezuelans you will realise they not all that attractive as some are making them out to be. In fact I think we exceed them in that area.

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Re: Venezuela warns of refugee exodus to Caribbean countries

Postby zoom rader » May 20th, 2016, 12:21 pm

Habit7 wrote:If some of allyuh men actually go to Venezuela (not just Margarita) and interact with Venezuelans you will realise they not all that attractive as some are making them out to be. In fact I think we exceed them in that area.


Eh not entirely true, I lived in venny for a short while.
Yes you will get some women that don't look after themselves . In venny it's an obsession for women to look good they are thought this at an early age, just as Trin women learn to wine in kindergarten.

Venny women look good cause they all want to move up in status. It's a status thing for them. Spanish women culture is to grab on to a high status family via marriage.

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Re: Venezuela warns of refugee exodus to Caribbean countries

Postby jm3 » May 20th, 2016, 1:13 pm

seriously someone set up a vene woman marriage service. ordering from amazon is always better than trying to find something locally.

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Re: Venezuela warns of refugee exodus to Caribbean countries

Postby Miktay » May 20th, 2016, 1:47 pm

zoom rader wrote:
Habit7 wrote:If some of allyuh men actually go to Venezuela (not just Margarita) and interact with Venezuelans you will realise they not all that attractive as some are making them out to be. In fact I think we exceed them in that area.


Eh not entirely true, I lived in venny for a short while.
Yes you will get some women that don't look after themselves . In venny it's an obsession for women to look good they are thought this at an early age, just as Trin women learn to wine in kindergarten.

Venny women look good cause they all want to move up in status. It's a status thing for them. Spanish women culture is to grab on to a high status family via marriage.


Nothing nicer than a well bred Latina...

Them women ooze sexuality fm every pore on they body.

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Re: Venezuela warns of refugee exodus to Caribbean countries

Postby Habit7 » May 20th, 2016, 1:55 pm

zoom rader wrote:
Habit7 wrote:If some of allyuh men actually go to Venezuela (not just Margarita) and interact with Venezuelans you will realise they not all that attractive as some are making them out to be. In fact I think we exceed them in that area.


Eh not entirely true, I lived in venny for a short while.
Yes you will get some women that don't look after themselves . In venny it's an obsession for women to look good they are thought this at an early age, just as Trin women learn to wine in kindergarten.

Venny women look good cause they all want to move up in status. It's a status thing for them. Spanish women culture is to grab on to a high status family via marriage.

Yes but in terms of natural beauty, you are far more likely to encounter naturally beautiful Trini women over Veneys. Feminism has no place there as essentially most women want to stay home, have babies and let their husband mind them. They are more vain than us and obsess over clothes and looks. But all the outstanding ones tend to float to the top and are either taken by some rich man or leave the country. Average Veneys are pretty average.

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Re: Venezuela warns of refugee exodus to Caribbean countries

Postby EmilioA » May 20th, 2016, 2:18 pm

Like alyuh never see what these Venes does look like after 30 ? Fat and flabby and they skin blotchy and veiny.

But once again alyuh letting your dick do your thinking for you. Alyuh wont know what hit alyuh if Vene falls.

Big Business in TT would willingly fire all locals and hire only Latins and Chinese.

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Postby cherrypopper » May 20th, 2016, 2:37 pm

EmilioA wrote:Like alyuh never see what these Venes does look like after 30 ? Fat and flabby and they skin blotchy and veiny.

But once again alyuh letting your dick do your thinking for you. Alyuh wont know what hit alyuh if Vene falls.

Big Business in TT would willingly fire all locals and hire only Latins and Chinese.


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The bottom looks like this. .This one is 31 years old

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Re: Venezuela warns of refugee exodus to Caribbean countries

Postby ruffrider27 » May 20th, 2016, 4:52 pm

Meh pardna say he big in d game fuc Trini broads lol Trini woman will feel man have time for them when veni woman taking over .
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Re: Venezuela warns of refugee exodus to Caribbean countries

Postby RASC » May 20th, 2016, 5:28 pm

If Pum Pum was a traded stock... Its price would be plummeting right now! The

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Re: Venezuela warns of refugee exodus to Caribbean countries

Postby lostboys crew » May 20th, 2016, 5:34 pm

Vene's working here long time. Especially in the restaurant business you feel Trini gal could peel aloo and boil macaroni.

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Re: RE: Re: Venezuela warns of refugee exodus to Caribbean countries

Postby nervewrecker » May 20th, 2016, 5:40 pm

Habit7 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
Habit7 wrote:If some of allyuh men actually go to Venezuela (not just Margarita) and interact with Venezuelans you will realise they not all that attractive as some are making them out to be. In fact I think we exceed them in that area.


Eh not entirely true, I lived in venny for a short while.
Yes you will get some women that don't look after themselves . In venny it's an obsession for women to look good they are thought this at an early age, just as Trin women learn to wine in kindergarten.

Venny women look good cause they all want to move up in status. It's a status thing for them. Spanish women culture is to grab on to a high status family via marriage.

Yes but in terms of natural beauty, you are far more likely to encounter naturally beautiful Trini women over Veneys. Feminism has no place there as essentially most women want to stay home, have babies and let their husband mind them. They are more vain than us and obsess over clothes and looks. But all the outstanding ones tend to float to the top and are either taken by some rich man or leave the country. Average Veneys are pretty average.

I with habit 7 on this. Still prefer my Trini girls.

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Re: Venezuela warns of refugee exodus to Caribbean countries

Postby Country_Bookie » May 20th, 2016, 5:41 pm

Syrians left their war torn country and become prosperous selling gyros , Venezuelans gonna come here and start businesses and become prosperous as well. While locals go still be waiting on the govt to give dem a handout and robbing ppl.

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Re: Venezuela warns of refugee exodus to Caribbean countries

Postby EmilioA » May 20th, 2016, 7:36 pm

So they have dotish men that think becuase they paying Venes for sex they is a pimpdaddy ?

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Postby kjaglal76v2 » May 20th, 2016, 11:49 pm

Country_Bookie wrote:Syrians left their war torn country and become prosperous selling gyros , Venezuelans gonna come here and start businesses and become prosperous as well. While locals go still be waiting on the govt to give dem a handout and robbing ppl.

facts

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Re: Venezuela warns of refugee exodus to Caribbean countries

Postby zoom rader » May 20th, 2016, 11:55 pm

I suspect Jamaicans and small islanders going to beat up cause the government will allow vennies in.

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Re: Venezuela warns of refugee exodus to Caribbean countries

Postby eurotuner » May 21st, 2016, 11:27 am

LOL@guys who think all Spanish/Venezuelan women are hot/passable.

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Re: Venezuela warns of refugee exodus to Caribbean countries

Postby Habit7 » May 21st, 2016, 12:22 pm


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Coast Guard locks down south-western peninsula
Venezuelans cautious entering Cedros, Icacos

Rhondor Dowlat
Published: Tuesday, May 10, 2016


Very few Venezuelans are taking the chance to enter T&T illegally through unofficial ports of entry as the coastline along the South Western peninsula is being manned around-the-clock by a T&T Coast Guard vessel.

The vessel, according to villagers at Icacos, has been anchored off the coast for the past two months.

Villagers at Cedros also confirmed that and said that on a sunny and clear day one could see the anchored vessel. It is alleged that a helicopter and an interceptor “work alongside” the Coast Guard vessel.

“We see them patrolling in the air and over the ocean between Venezuela and here (T&T),” a villager (who wished anonymity) from Cedros said.

During a trip to the peninsula last Friday, some Icacos fishermen, who all wished to be unidentified, alleged that they were harassed by Coast Guard officials.

“Because of this we are unable to ply our trade properly. We cannot fish and right now we are all suffering as a result,” one fisherman, aged 54, said.

His son claimed that things were so hard that he could not take care of his children and feared that he would be sent to the courts for child maintenance.

However, T&T Guardian understands that some Venezuelan nationals take the chance to “bribe” T&T fishermen by handing over drugs, guns and ammunition in exchange to be brought into T&T through illegal ports of entry.

Some fishermen even take the Venezuelan women as wives and have them living with them here in T&T.

It is said that since the heightened coastal patrols along the coastline by the Coast Guard, this kind of trade/ human trafficking is becoming more and more difficult.

“There are one or two that still slip in. Just this morning (Friday) I saw two Venezuelans coming aboard a fisherman’s pirogue,” another Icacos villager said.

Since the crippling of the Venezuelan economy, especially in recent times, even food and water have become scarce necessities.

Scores of Venezuelans, both men and women, sacrifice 60,000 Venezuela bolivars, which is equivalent to just under US$100, to travel to T&T via a passenger ferry from Venezuela. An average of 350 Venezuelan nationals, according to unnamed Immigration sources, arrive on a monthly basis at the port in Cedros.

However, that same trip from T&T to Venezuela would cost TT$1,200 but very few Trinbagonians actually make that trip, according to Immigration sources.

Some days, according to 58-year-old Cedros villager, Mohan Seraj, scores of Venezuelans line the street and erect tables where they sell clothes, footwear, jewelry, ornaments and hammocks. Their prices start from TT$100.

During the visit to Cedros on Friday, the T&T Guardian met with two Venezuelan women who were selling items that they brought from Venezuela.

When asked to comment why they came here to sell, both Spanish-speaking women declined to answer. However, a close friend of theirs said that because of the economic crisis Venezuelans come here on a daily basis to trade their goods for money in an attempt to better their livelihood back in Venezuela.

“Some of them come for a day or two. Some of them stay for months. Sometimes they rent a room from someone here for TT$250 a day or some villagers here in Cedros feel very sorry for them and keep them in their homes for free. Some of them even spread out to other areas in Trinidad and stay permanently, most of the times illegally,” one Cedros villager said.

“They come to sell either here in Cedros or Point Fortin or as far as San Fernando. What can you really do? They are desperate and looking for a means to survive. You can’t blame them for trying,” the villager added.

When asked how the Coast Guard battled illegal entry by Venezuelans and how many of them have been taken into custody or sent back upon interception out in the high seas when they attempt to come to T&T to trade drugs, arms and ammunition for food and baby stuff, public affairs officer Lt Commander Kirk Jean-Baptiste would only say:

“I am failing to understand where the concerns are because Venezuelans have been trading by sea for decades upon decades, in droves before you and I were born and it is continuing. That trade does not end. I suppose now that there is an economic situation and they have probably intensified their trade because they need to eat but there is nothing strange about those movements in terms of them trading and going back.”

An email listing several questions sent to Venezuelan Ambassador Coromoto Godoy-Calderon last week went unanswered. Several calls to the Venezuelan Embassy in an attempt to speak with her were unsuccessful as she was said to be not in office.

Arrival statistics

According to data received, arrivals from Venezuela jumped by 6,000 between 2013 and 2014, from 15,008 to 21,052.

In 2015, the Governments of Venezuela and T&T agreed to expand their strategic and co-operative partnership in several areas.

Venezuela President Nicolas Maduro reportedly said both nations will set in motion co-operation agreements in energy, trade, tourism, security, education and culture.

US Travel Advisory to Venezuela

Armed robberies take place throughout the country, including areas generally presumed safe and frequented by tourists. Street crime can occur anywhere and at any time of the day or night. Even upscale residential areas are not immune from street crime and home invasion robberies.

While visiting Venezuela, US citizens are encouraged to maintain a low profile and carry as little US currency as possible. Avoid conspicuous displays of wealth, such as wearing expensive watches or jewelry, and avoid having cellphones or other electronic devices visible to avoid becoming a target of crime.

Incidents of piracy off the coast of Venezuela remain a concern. Yachties should note that anchoring offshore is not considered safe. While the majority of reports involve local fisherman, foreigners have been targeted. Some of these attacks have been especially violent and resulted in the deaths of the passengers aboard the ships.

Marinas, including those in Puerto La Cruz and Margarita Island (Porlamar), provide only minimal security, and US citizens should exercise a heightened level of caution in Venezuelan waters.

http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2016-05- ... ros-icacos


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Re: Venezuela warns of refugee exodus to Caribbean countries

Postby Allergic2BunnyEars » May 21st, 2016, 12:43 pm

Wtf @ vid. No oil, sugar?

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Re: Venezuela warns of refugee exodus to Caribbean countries

Postby Morpheus » May 21st, 2016, 2:14 pm

$1200TT is 1 year's salary? BIG ouch!

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