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Re: UNC to recover....what needs to be done..

Postby Advent » October 12th, 2015, 11:58 am

EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:I understand many of you seem confused about my posts, make no sense but its not supposed to, not right now, but in time it will.

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Re: UNC to recover....what needs to be done..

Postby K74T » October 12th, 2015, 2:05 pm

EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:I understand many of you seem confused about my posts, make no sense but its not supposed to, not right now, but in time it will.


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Re: UNC to recover....what needs to be done..

Postby desifemlove » October 12th, 2015, 2:13 pm

zoom rader wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:
Redman wrote:The UNC needs to look at what the PNM did...and do it.

Internal elections...full new slate...act properly and nationalistic while in opposition
New young blood ...qualified and clean...with a successful career.

Take owner ship of the failures...5 losses isn't bad luck.

Do that and they may have a chance


X2

and a 6th loss coming next year... local government elections. When Kamla looses LGE, best believe the UNC going to execute judgement.

Until the UNC constitution is reformed and new blood at all levels comes in, UNC not winning 2020 unless the Rowley led PNM screws the population big time.


But Rowley done screw up, you and your kids will have to pay for PNM racket rail.
Your food bill done gone and gas will increase every year. Don't forget the new taxes soon to come.
Hope you happy will what u voted for.

five years dude....she ent had no plans for a transport system.... 8-)

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Re: UNC to recover....what needs to be done..

Postby desifemlove » October 12th, 2015, 2:14 pm

zoom rader wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:
Redman wrote:The UNC needs to look at what the PNM did...and do it.

Internal elections...full new slate...act properly and nationalistic while in opposition
New young blood ...qualified and clean...with a successful career.

Take owner ship of the failures...5 losses isn't bad luck.

Do that and they may have a chance


X2

and a 6th loss coming next year... local government elections. When Kamla looses LGE, best believe the UNC going to execute judgement.

Until the UNC constitution is reformed and new blood at all levels comes in, UNC not winning 2020 unless the Rowley led PNM screws the population big time.


But Rowley done screw up, you and your kids will have to pay for PNM racket rail.
Your food bill done gone and gas will increase every year. Don't forget the new taxes soon to come.
Hope you happy will what u voted for.

five years dude....she ent had no plans for a transport system.... 8-)

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Re: UNC to recover....what needs to be done..

Postby Daran » October 12th, 2015, 2:23 pm

desifemlove wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:
Redman wrote:The UNC needs to look at what the PNM did...and do it.

Internal elections...full new slate...act properly and nationalistic while in opposition
New young blood ...qualified and clean...with a successful career.

Take owner ship of the failures...5 losses isn't bad luck.

Do that and they may have a chance


X2

and a 6th loss coming next year... local government elections. When Kamla looses LGE, best believe the UNC going to execute judgement.

Until the UNC constitution is reformed and new blood at all levels comes in, UNC not winning 2020 unless the Rowley led PNM screws the population big time.


But Rowley done screw up, you and your kids will have to pay for PNM racket rail.
Your food bill done gone and gas will increase every year. Don't forget the new taxes soon to come.
Hope you happy will what u voted for.

five years dude....she ent had no plans for a transport system.... 8-)


For someone with no plan, the last 5 years were by far the most work I've seen in traffic reduction across the country.

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Re: UNC to recover....what needs to be done..

Postby PariaMan » October 12th, 2015, 2:45 pm

Alot of work has been done but yet still the traffic is worst than ever before

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Re: UNC to recover....what needs to be done..

Postby EmilioA » October 12th, 2015, 3:16 pm

Daran wrote:
For someone with no plan, the last 5 years were by far the most work I've seen in traffic reduction across the country.


Aside from the Grand Bazaar Interchange..what are you referring to ?

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Re: UNC to recover....what needs to be done..

Postby Country_Bookie » October 12th, 2015, 4:14 pm

UNC doh hadda do much to win in 2020. Just replace a few old timers, make some noise and cry scandal about everything the govt do. By the time 2020 roll around, ppl will be fed up of 5 years of the usual gov't corruption, and every media outlet (except I95.5 & state media) will be crucifying the gov't at every turn. UNC will win by default, because we will be so eager to get rid of the incumbents.

The same way allyuh saying the UNC dead now, ppl said the same about the PNM after they lost in '86, 2000 and 2010. Opposition parties doh hadda do much. Just sit back and give the party in power enough rope to hang deyself, and then the opposition party wins by default.

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Postby EmilioA » October 12th, 2015, 4:38 pm

^^^ Dont short change what the PNM did you know. They replace they leader and only 5 of the 41 candidates they put up in 2015 was old timers. The UNC could repeat that ?

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Re: UNC to recover....what needs to be done..

Postby 88sins » October 12th, 2015, 5:15 pm

Highly unlikely

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Re: UNC to recover....what needs to be done..

Postby desifemlove » October 12th, 2015, 5:21 pm

Daran wrote:
desifemlove wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:
Redman wrote:The UNC needs to look at what the PNM did...and do it.

Internal elections...full new slate...act properly and nationalistic while in opposition
New young blood ...qualified and clean...with a successful career.

Take owner ship of the failures...5 losses isn't bad luck.

Do that and they may have a chance


X2

and a 6th loss coming next year... local government elections. When Kamla looses LGE, best believe the UNC going to execute judgement.

Until the UNC constitution is reformed and new blood at all levels comes in, UNC not winning 2020 unless the Rowley led PNM screws the population big time.


But Rowley done screw up, you and your kids will have to pay for PNM racket rail.
Your food bill done gone and gas will increase every year. Don't forget the new taxes soon to come.
Hope you happy will what u voted for.

five years dude....she ent had no plans for a transport system.... 8-)


For someone with no plan, the last 5 years were by far the most work I've seen in traffic reduction across the country.


get treatment for your drug issues, nah...since you have to be on drugs to see "traffic reduction"....

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Re: UNC to recover....what needs to be done..

Postby eliteauto » October 12th, 2015, 5:41 pm

one of the first things the UNC has to do is denounce the myriad utterances being made by persons purporting to represent the UNC on social media, that encourage hate, racism, division and outright lies and deceit. As long as that continues and as long as non-partisan citizens sees that as reflective of the party line, they will not woo the needed non-aligned voters they need to win a general election. Seems the UNC is set on a kamikaze path of self destruction and the surrounding yes men somehow continue to convince them they are in the right

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Re: UNC to recover....what needs to be done..

Postby zoom rader » October 12th, 2015, 5:48 pm

eliteauto wrote:one of the first things the UNC has to do is denounce the myriad utterances being made by persons purporting to represent the UNC on social media, that encourage hate, racism, division and outright lies and deceit. As long as that continues and as long as non-partisan citizens sees that as reflective of the party line, they will not woo the needed non-aligned voters they need to win a general election. Seems the UNC is set on a kamikaze path of self destruction and the surrounding yes men somehow continue to convince them they are in the right



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Re: UNC to recover....what needs to be done..

Postby shogun » October 12th, 2015, 6:17 pm

EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:I understand many of you seem confused about my posts, make no sense but its not supposed to, not right now, but in time it will.


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Re: UNC to recover....what needs to be done..

Postby Daran » October 12th, 2015, 6:17 pm

desifemlove wrote:
Daran wrote:
desifemlove wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:
Redman wrote:The UNC needs to look at what the PNM did...and do it.

Internal elections...full new slate...act properly and nationalistic while in opposition
New young blood ...qualified and clean...with a successful career.

Take owner ship of the failures...5 losses isn't bad luck.

Do that and they may have a chance


X2

and a 6th loss coming next year... local government elections. When Kamla looses LGE, best believe the UNC going to execute judgement.

Until the UNC constitution is reformed and new blood at all levels comes in, UNC not winning 2020 unless the Rowley led PNM screws the population big time.


But Rowley done screw up, you and your kids will have to pay for PNM racket rail.
Your food bill done gone and gas will increase every year. Don't forget the new taxes soon to come.
Hope you happy will what u voted for.

five years dude....she ent had no plans for a transport system.... 8-)


For someone with no plan, the last 5 years were by far the most work I've seen in traffic reduction across the country.


get treatment for your drug issues, nah...since you have to be on drugs to see "traffic reduction"....


Where the ass you living?

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Re: UNC to recover....what needs to be done..

Postby Hyperion » October 12th, 2015, 6:28 pm

The UNC could do what they want in the next 5 years, they won't win unless PNM messes up big time. Parties in Trinidad don't win elections, they are handed the reins of power when the incumbent loses, as evidenced by 2010 and 2015.

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Postby zoom rader » October 12th, 2015, 6:29 pm

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Postby desifemlove » October 12th, 2015, 6:30 pm

same country as you.........and in the same roads wit traffic...

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Re: UNC to recover....what needs to be done..

Postby EmilioA » October 12th, 2015, 6:46 pm

Back to the topic.

Right now the best thing for the UNC is for the PNM to move with they investigations and arrest the UNC front line for corruption. That will allow the UNC the opportunity to clean house and rebuild.

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Postby zoom rader » October 12th, 2015, 6:47 pm

EmilioA wrote:Back to the topic.

Right now the best thing for the UNC is for the PNM to move with they investigations and arrest the UNC front line for corruption. That will allow the UNC the opportunity to clean house and rebuild.



Arrest for what? propaganda?

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Postby EmilioA » October 12th, 2015, 6:49 pm

zoom rader wrote:
EmilioA wrote:Back to the topic.

Right now the best thing for the UNC is for the PNM to move with they investigations and arrest the UNC front line for corruption. That will allow the UNC the opportunity to clean house and rebuild.



Arrest for what? propaganda?


8-) wait and see. This isnt Anand pretending to go after Calder Hart. Faris and dem really checking the cash flow.

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Re: UNC to recover....what needs to be done..

Postby zoom rader » October 12th, 2015, 6:52 pm

EmilioA wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
EmilioA wrote:Back to the topic.

Right now the best thing for the UNC is for the PNM to move with they investigations and arrest the UNC front line for corruption. That will allow the UNC the opportunity to clean house and rebuild.



Arrest for what? propaganda?


8-) wait and see. This isnt Anand pretending to go after Calder Hart. Faris and dem really checking the cash flow.



Faris and dem will only fool PNM ppl and yourself with that crap.
How much case Farry win again?

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Postby EmilioA » October 12th, 2015, 6:54 pm

zoom rader wrote:
EmilioA wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
EmilioA wrote:Back to the topic.

Right now the best thing for the UNC is for the PNM to move with they investigations and arrest the UNC front line for corruption. That will allow the UNC the opportunity to clean house and rebuild.



Arrest for what? propaganda?


8-) wait and see. This isnt Anand pretending to go after Calder Hart. Faris and dem really checking the cash flow.



Faris and dem will only fool PNM ppl and yourself with that crap.
How much case Farry win again?


As many as Kamla and Roodal put together.

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Postby zoom rader » October 12th, 2015, 7:03 pm

EmilioA wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
EmilioA wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
EmilioA wrote:Back to the topic.

Right now the best thing for the UNC is for the PNM to move with they investigations and arrest the UNC front line for corruption. That will allow the UNC the opportunity to clean house and rebuild.



Arrest for what? propaganda?


8-) wait and see. This isnt Anand pretending to go after Calder Hart. Faris and dem really checking the cash flow.



Faris and dem will only fool PNM ppl and yourself with that crap.
How much case Farry win again?


As many as Kamla and Roodal put together.



Hoss do some research and try and find out what was Roodal profession before he became an MP nah. Heres a clue 1+1 =2

I dont want you looking like a jackass thinking that Roodal is Lawyer.

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Postby Daran » October 12th, 2015, 7:04 pm

The UNC wishes to categorically condemn the unfair, distasteful and prejudicial attack by AG Faris Al-Rawi and his junior Minister Stuart Young against the legal profession during their budget contribution today.

In rattling off legal fees paid to attorneys under the previous administration, no attempt was made to give a fair balanced and meaningful account. Quoting fees out of context can be quite misleading. It is therefore passing strange that they deliberately avoided any analysis of the complexity and nature of the matters, the duration of the case, the amount claimed against the state, whether the attorney was successful or not and whether legal costs were awarded in favour of the state.

The failure to give any meaningful breakdown is hypocritical and deceitful as the figures may include fees paid to forensic auditing firms, the State’s Privy Council agents in London and fees paid for lawyers hired by the Office of the DPP (which falls under the Ministry of the Attorney General), the CLICO investigation and extraditions.

The PNM has no moral authority to criticize the PP administration on the issue of legal fees. After all the PP Government inherited an avalanche of litigation from unpaid contractors on several mega projects, complex international arbitrations in the energy sector and a pile of unpaid legal bills. In many instances, the Government was forced to defend itself against massive claims brought by multi-national companies as a result of billion dollar projects that had gone belly-up such as the World GTL project in Petrotrin, the failed CLICO bailout and the Bamboo Investment deal at ETeck. These claims had the potential to hurt the country’s economy and required skilful expertise.

It is ironic that the PNM would comment on legal fees in light of its own track record. Lucrative briefs were given to a small handful of selected lawyers closely connected and related to top PNM officials. Some of those Attorneys include Michael Quamina, Stuart Young, Kerwyn Garcia and Colin Kangaloo (Husband and bother respectively of the then Minister of Legal Affairs and current President of the Senate, Ms. Christine Kangaloo) Reginald Armourer SC and Mr Douglas Mendes SC. Many of these lawyers are now representing the PNM in the election petition cases.

Whilst Al-RAwi and Young mounted the political pulpit and attacked lawyers who competently and successfully represented the State, they apparently forgot to mention how much the handful of PNM junior counsel earned during the PNM’s tenure.

For example, as a junior counsel, Mr Stuart Young was paid a whopping two million dollars in the Uff Commission of Inquiry (See Trinidad Express of April 13th 2011 “CALDER HART’S LAWYERS RAKES IN BIG BUCKS FOR UDECOTT COMMISSION OF ENQUIRY-OVER $46M SPENT”)

With respect to Mr Young’s criticism of the amount charged by junior counsel, it should be noted that former AG Garvin Nicholas had tabled in Parliament a list of fees paid by the Ministry during the period 2010-2013. In one matter, Appeal 110 of 2007 Republic Investments Limited, Mr Young charged the whopping sum of $440,883.30. In the same matter, another junior counsel Mr. Michael Quamina billed $375,666.65. In short, two PNM junior counsel charged almost $1,000,000. I challenge Minister Young to deny these facts as it forms part of the official record of the Parliament.

The PNM’s will be best remembered for its stout refusal of then PNM AG Bridgette Anisette-George (now Speaker of the House), to disclose the legal fees the PNM administration had paid with public funds because it would breach the privacy of the lawyers involved. In other words, unlike the PP administration, it was prepared to play hide and seek and protect its team of PNM lawyers from public scrutiny. Perhaps Al-Rawi and Young have forgotten but their bombastic and dramatic self serving sermon fools no one.


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Re: UNC to recover....what needs to be done..

Postby zoom rader » October 12th, 2015, 7:07 pm

So Mr Young pocket cool 2 Million and now he spilling beans on his fellow lawyers for their services.

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Re: UNC to recover....what needs to be done..

Postby EmilioA » October 12th, 2015, 7:16 pm

zoom rader wrote:
EmilioA wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
EmilioA wrote: 8-) wait and see. This isnt Anand pretending to go after Calder Hart. Faris and dem really checking the cash flow.


Faris and dem will only fool PNM ppl and yourself with that crap.
How much case Farry win again?


As many as Kamla and Roodal put together.

Hoss do some research and try and find out what was Roodal profession before he became an MP nah. Heres a clue 1+1 =2
I dont want you looking like a jackass thinking that Roodal is Lawyer.



Eh heh . So that LLB he have is just for show ? He just like having the letters behind he name and ent actually fight any case ? How terrible.

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Re: UNC to recover....what needs to be done..

Postby Hyperion » October 12th, 2015, 7:16 pm

EmilioA wrote:Back to the topic.

Right now the best thing for the UNC is for the PNM to move with they investigations and arrest the UNC front line for corruption. That will allow the UNC the opportunity to clean house and rebuild.


This might never happen, each and every one of them without fail have skeletons in the closet, or foreign bank accounts.

The only way this could take place is if one or two go down and the others see the writing on the wall, then they will be only too happy to sell the others out in exchange for leniency. Typical crab in a barrel, shark eat shark UNC behaviour.

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Re: UNC to recover....what needs to be done..

Postby 88sins » October 12th, 2015, 7:18 pm

EmilioA wrote: 8-) wait and see. This isnt Anand pretending to go after Calder Hart. Faris and dem really checking the cash flow.


Keep tellin yuhself that. It go happen. And i could tell yuh precisely when it go happen. Anand, Anil and all that invested heavily in misapprpriation of state funds will make a jail for it exactly 7 days after fowl grow teeth.

Yeah if they start to lock up and seize the stolen assets those responible for such things under the UNC they will be seen as against corruption and it would strengthen their image. This would literally kill the UNC as a political party for any future elections as long as any if the old heads maintain any sort of affiliation.
But the trade off is if ever they lose an election to the UNC, then the UNC comin out lookin to lock up PNM ministers on corruption charges.


Either remand yard go be full of former ministers which is HIGHLY unlikely, or is real bribery and bogus court cases and useless enquiries like we never had before.

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