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Re: Like The Kidnapping Start Back

Postby Richard Marshall » September 24th, 2015, 12:44 pm

Where you got that news?

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Postby TriniAutoMart » September 25th, 2015, 10:43 am

A re-emergence of kidnappings is taking place in this country, National Security Minister Edmund Dillon has said.
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/20150924 ... e-remerged


These guys know what they saying?

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Re: Like The Kidnapping Start Back

Postby make meh care » September 25th, 2015, 10:51 am

he not a security minister he is a minister of pray since he knows nothing what to do about the situation

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Postby tourniquet » September 26th, 2015, 10:13 pm

so the OP says something and some people start to sharpen their pitchforks and rally the troops, but the Minister says something similar and the thread gets quiet? lol

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Re: Like The Kidnapping Start Back

Postby The_Honourable » September 27th, 2015, 11:25 am

Spike in murders after September 7

Does crime go up when the People’s National Movement (PNM) is in office?

In the days right after the September 7 general election, homicide rates spiked in both Trinidad and Tobago. Within the subsequent fortnight, more than 20 people were murdered, causing the 2015 homicide total to surpass last year’s for the first time.

Read More: http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2015-09- ... eptember-7

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Re: Like The Kidnapping Start Back

Postby kaylex » September 27th, 2015, 11:50 am

some of allyuh fellas sick OUI...

Kidnapping and Kidnapping for Ransom are two different crimes.

Kidnapping for ransom remains low ,.. however Kidnapping has been a problem for probably like 10 years..
the forceful removal of a being from one point to another is kidnapping. Just saying.. when you play with the pups you get bitten by the fleas. some of the victims of kidnapping aren't all as they seem to be..Alot of human lives have dissapeared in Trinidad without a trace and this trend was always increasing.. Don't know why people are trying to blame pnm.. The same structures that UNC led PP are still in place... Same people.. So who aren't untop of their game ??
Really?? Did everyone stop working for election season> ?

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Postby EmilioA » September 27th, 2015, 11:57 am

Anybody pay attention to this ?
http://trinidadexpress.com/20150926/new ... ld-jewelry
ONE million dollars in gold jewelry was stolen from a family in Brasso Venado on Friday, police reports have said.

Two members of the family were beaten, and other valuables, inclu­ding a vehicle, were stolen.

The white Toyota Fielder wagon valued at $80,000 was later found by police, abandoned in a road off Telamaque Road, Flanagin Town.

Police reports are that around 6.50 a.m., the victims, caterer Oma­- tee Ramoutar, 64; dri­ver Anthony Sonny, 25; Reyan Ramoutar, 45; and Adrian Ramoutar, 11, were at their home in Brasso Venado when five masked men, clad in black long-sleeved jerseys, black pants and gloves, and armed with cutlasses, entered their home and announced a hold-up. Omatee Ra­moutar and Sonny were dealt several blows.



I'd say a lot of the murders/kidnappings etc that happening is people, who had dubious sources of income. getting offed by their rivals now that they no longer have political protection.

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Postby INHUMAN » September 27th, 2015, 12:11 pm

And what race of ppl have dubious income? And what race of people envious of dubious income? And what race of people makeup the crime percentage? ... I cud go on..buh then u may see i racial etc... Crime only goin n get worse under pnm

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Postby kaylex » September 27th, 2015, 12:25 pm

dude what PNM have to do with crime... You went realise since mid 80s we have had a rise in crime. Don't get fooled by the statistics .. unc didn't do much for crime either. The fact is world crime rates have been rising steadily for a long time and crime has much to do with classism. Anyone who encourages some to rise and others to fall will for sure feel the pinch. you could say its race.. but classism carries consequences. Anyone who encourages classism doomed to reap the consequences. #realtalk

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Postby EmilioA » September 27th, 2015, 12:34 pm

INHUMAN wrote:And what race of ppl have dubious income? And what race of people envious of dubious income? And what race of people makeup the crime percentage? ... I cud go on..buh then u may see i racial etc... Crime only goin n get worse under pnm


They have a race of people who have dubious income ? Pray tell what race is this ?

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Postby INHUMAN » September 27th, 2015, 12:53 pm

The human race..duhhh8-)

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Postby BRZ » September 27th, 2015, 5:35 pm

Our police force needs educating and really need additional help in solving crimes.

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Postby RASC » September 28th, 2015, 5:56 am

1Million$ in jewelry

Damn

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Re: Like The Kidnapping Start Back

Postby BRZ » September 28th, 2015, 7:31 am

WTF you doing with 1 million in Jewelry at home in the first place.

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Postby RASC » September 28th, 2015, 7:39 am

BRZ wrote:WTF you doing with 1 million in Jewelry at home in the first place.


Stop trying to kill the "PNM ppl targetting helpless UNC ppl by Kidnapping them" angle please.

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Postby Daran » September 28th, 2015, 8:23 am

RASC wrote:
BRZ wrote:WTF you doing with 1 million in Jewelry at home in the first place.


Stop trying to kill the "PNM ppl targetting helpless UNC ppl by Kidnapping them" angle please.

Thanks


A lot of times when people are robbed, they always tend to over-inflate the worth of the items lost.

That said, there is no data to support kidnappings nor kidnappings for ransom have increased.

However, the is currently a spike in murders. The question Kevin Baldeosingh has raised in that article is whether this phenomenon is due to PNM winning the election.

Very hard to say, but once cannot disagree with the following angle (Taken from another forum):

Given that PNM is perceived to represent black people in Trinidad and Tobago, there is a belief that PNM will more lenient or tolerating of black misbehavior. This is true, whether we like to admit it or not. The 'we time now' mindset is prevalent in both majority races in Trinidad. As a black man who supported PP (and still does), I've witnessed this attitude in many indians. Especially when it came to bending the rules to get things their way.

The difference we're seeing now is a reflection of the indian culture vs black culture. This is a defintely another debate for another time, but regardless, indians turn to education and business to earn a living. Blacks turn to government or seek more glamorous methods such as art, music and gangs.

Obviously, given the nature of the black population in Trinidad, when it is 'we time now', there will be more an increase in the callousness and boldface nature of their crime.

Why are indian-trinis concerned? Because, while many view the indo crime targets are seen as 'bad seeds' who are now reaping what they sowed, many (and I do so many) are unfairly targeted and harnessed.

This is why, the simple act of PP/UNC being in power reduces crime.

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Postby Advent » September 28th, 2015, 9:22 am

Daran wrote:
RASC wrote:
BRZ wrote:WTF you doing with 1 million in Jewelry at home in the first place.


Stop trying to kill the "PNM ppl targetting helpless UNC ppl by Kidnapping them" angle please.

Thanks


A lot of times when people are robbed, they always tend to over-inflate the worth of the items lost.

That said, there is no data to support kidnappings nor kidnappings for ransom have increased.

However, the is currently a spike in murders. The question Kevin Baldeosingh has raised in that article is whether this phenomenon is due to PNM winning the election.

Very hard to say, but once cannot disagree with the following angle (Taken from another forum):



Obviously, given the nature of the black population in Trinidad, when it is 'we time now', there will be more an increase in the callousness and boldface nature of their crime.
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You really think criminals have time with who in power ? like really ?
It is not a political party's responsibility to fix crime that's the police responsibility, it is however the government responsibility to ensure that the police have the resources and man power etc to do their jobs..

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Postby EmilioA » September 28th, 2015, 9:49 am

Daran wrote:
Very hard to say, but once cannot disagree with the following angle (Taken from another forum):


Obviously, given the nature of the black population in Trinidad, when it is 'we time now', there will be more an increase in the callousness and boldface nature of their crime.

Why are indian-trinis concerned? Because, while many view the indo crime targets are seen as 'bad seeds' who are now reaping what they sowed, many (and I do so many) are unfairly targeted and harnessed.

This is why, the simple act of PP/UNC being in power reduces crime.


Unfortunately for you there was a spike in murders right after the PP was elected in 2010.

In 2010, the month of June recorded the highest number of murders—55, with April following closely with 54 murders. The month with the smallest number of murders, but still substantial, at 25, was September.

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/201 ... 60004.html


I suspect changes of govt cause a rise in murders, as the criminal elements associated with the new govt take out the criminal elements associated with the old regime.

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Re: Like The Kidnapping Start Back

Postby BRZ » September 28th, 2015, 10:16 am

So which is it?

IS it that the supporters of the New government as a celebratory gesture have gone on a criminal SPREE ?

or

HAve the past government supporters gone on a SOUR, lets blame it on the new government Crime SPREE ?

Or

Are we seeing the casualties of the War between the previous criminals and the new criminals that support different Parties?



Daran wrote:
RASC wrote:
BRZ wrote:WTF you doing with 1 million in Jewelry at home in the first place.


Stop trying to kill the "PNM ppl targetting helpless UNC ppl by Kidnapping them" angle please.

Thanks


A lot of times when people are robbed, they always tend to over-inflate the worth of the items lost.

That said, there is no data to support kidnappings nor kidnappings for ransom have increased.

However, the is currently a spike in murders. The question Kevin Baldeosingh has raised in that article is whether this phenomenon is due to PNM winning the election.

Very hard to say, but once cannot disagree with the following angle (Taken from another forum):

Given that PNM is perceived to represent black people in Trinidad and Tobago, there is a belief that PNM will more lenient or tolerating of black misbehavior. This is true, whether we like to admit it or not. The 'we time now' mindset is prevalent in both majority races in Trinidad. As a black man who supported PP (and still does), I've witnessed this attitude in many indians. Especially when it came to bending the rules to get things their way.

The difference we're seeing now is a reflection of the indian culture vs black culture. This is a defintely another debate for another time, but regardless, indians turn to education and business to earn a living. Blacks turn to government or seek more glamorous methods such as art, music and gangs.

Obviously, given the nature of the black population in Trinidad, when it is 'we time now', there will be more an increase in the callousness and boldface nature of their crime.

Why are indian-trinis concerned? Because, while many view the indo crime targets are seen as 'bad seeds' who are now reaping what they sowed, many (and I do so many) are unfairly targeted and harnessed.

This is why, the simple act of PP/UNC being in power reduces crime.

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Re: Like The Kidnapping Start Back

Postby S_2NR » September 28th, 2015, 11:01 am

BRZ wrote:WTF you doing with 1 million in Jewelry at home in the first place.

This reminds me I have some laundry to do later...

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Postby Redman » September 28th, 2015, 11:09 am

Police reports are that around 6.50 a.m., the victims, caterer Oma­- tee Ramoutar, 64; dri­ver Anthony Sonny, 25; Reyan Ramoutar, 45; and Adrian Ramoutar, 11, were at their home in Brasso Venado when five masked men, clad in black long-sleeved jerseys, black pants and gloves, and armed with cutlasses, entered their home and announced a hold-up. Omatee Ra­moutar and Sonny were dealt several blows.


When last 5 man holding up a HOUSE???

is OJT ???

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Postby BRZ » September 28th, 2015, 12:14 pm

Redman wrote:
Police reports are that around 6.50 a.m., the victims, caterer Oma­- tee Ramoutar, 64; dri­ver Anthony Sonny, 25; Reyan Ramoutar, 45; and Adrian Ramoutar, 11, were at their home in Brasso Venado when five masked men, clad in black long-sleeved jerseys, black pants and gloves, and armed with cutlasses, entered their home and announced a hold-up. Omatee Ra­moutar and Sonny were dealt several blows.


When last 5 man holding up a HOUSE???

is OJT ???


So wha yuh mean is that now they cant steal with the help of their govt friends from the previous gubbment , they trying ah ting using insurance to get more money?

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Re: Like The Kidnapping Start Back

Postby Kalisnakov » September 28th, 2015, 12:34 pm

It's a kidnapping thread,not abt politics
Stick to the thread guys

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Postby Sundar » September 28th, 2015, 12:38 pm

when everyday is gangsta for life and buss ah cap in ah n***ga. what you expect the youth to learn? my neighbor does sing dem song word for word top of his lungs, but cyar pass sea after two tries. time to be studying his work he dey outside all over liming. so when all over have waste of time parent likr this what you expect? scholars to go university and excel and get a good job to EARN their money? when it so easy to just get a gun n rob others who've worked and bought their comfort and saved to provide during hard times. but say what.

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Re: Like The Kidnapping Start Back

Postby Ted_v2 » September 28th, 2015, 1:51 pm

U eh slap him yet?

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Postby Sundar » September 28th, 2015, 2:50 pm

Ted_v2 wrote:U eh slap him yet?

everyday the thought runs thru my head, however, his family deep in the drug business so they are very boldface, especially the mother have d 'wajang' attitude and on her 11th husband and they bribing the police in penal so they does always know when raid gonna be. so to avoid anything we just ignore these pests. they live next door. they have nothing to lose.

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Postby Ted_v2 » September 28th, 2015, 3:18 pm

Penal you say. Hmm. My district

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Postby K74T » September 28th, 2015, 3:30 pm

Kemraj again

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Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » September 28th, 2015, 4:04 pm

Perhaps the minister of national security knows something we don't which is why he made this statement that kidnappings are back?

I don't think he would do something like this so reckless and tarnish the PNM's image just for the heck of it.

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