Murder in MovieTowne

[Cjruckus]

It very well may have been a shoot out over some squabble or beef and not due to a robbery or hold up. I certainly hope it is the former.

That aside, does that change the fact that there was a shooting death at a place some people thought they felt safe?

What would make anyone think Movietowne is a safe environment? Because of the likes of Woodford Cafe, Trader Jacks and Zanzibar being in close proximity?

While I do believe MT is safER than other locations, it is certainly not safe. No where is.

Every where in Trinidad can be safe.
You just need to be smart about it.

St James is very safe as well.

No one has yet to figure out the motive for the shooting. This could be gang warfare for all we know. Its not an innocent by standard who was targeted and randomly killed.

The crowd that limes in green park at night is questionable. Some of The things I have seen going on in there makes me say my god. I usually park by car by BHP and walk to movietowne when its rammed out and in green park the kids are getting on scandalous. Its the new make out/wet head row. Like behind westmall by the Dish back in the day.

[Damien]

No matter what you do these thug elements would still exist and do as they please, best thing is to stay home, i cant say you might not get killed or rob home but you have less chances at home

[saxman642]

It very well may have been a shoot out over some squabble or beef and not due to a robbery or hold up. I certainly hope it is the former.

Sorry to dissapoint.

A friend who was in the park at the time told me the two were apparently liming together and got into a fight and one pull out gun for the other, and well... ya know...

[AbstractPoetic]

Every where in Trinidad can be safe. You just need to be smart about it.

Ah, so you've actually tested that claim by walking/driving in Pump Trace, Laventille?

What about Sea Lots? Or Jon Jon? How did you utilize being "smart about it" when in such areas?

[AbstractPoetic]

No matter what you do these thug elements would still exist and do as they please, best thing is to stay home, i cant say you might not get killed or rob home but you have less chances at home

Then the thug elements would have won.

I refuse to just stay home to have a good time. Outside of houselimes there are great restaurants and bars, dance clubs and lounges around TT that deserve our patronage. Why should thugs take that freedom away from me or anyone else?

Just make sure to observe your surroundings at all times and lock your doors when entering and exiting a car. You know how much crime could have been prevented if Trinboganians took the time to be more aware of their surroundings? Steups.

[Cjruckus]

Every where in Trinidad can be safe. You just need to be smart about it.

Ah, so you've actually tested that claim by walking/driving in Pump Trace, Laventille?

What about Sea Lots? Or Jon Jon? How did you utilize being "smart about it" when in such areas?

Well walking down Picton Laventille isn't very smart now is it?
Is there anything to see there? No. So don't go.

That's how you be smart about it. You must be a pretty shitty lawyer because your counterarguments are so predictable and fail.

[AbstractPoetic]

Every where in Trinidad can be safe. You just need to be smart about it.

Ah, so you've actually tested that claim by walking/driving in Pump Trace, Laventille?

What about Sea Lots? Or Jon Jon? How did you utilize being "smart about it" when in such areas?

Well walking down Picton Laventille isn't very smart now is it?
Is there anything to see there? No. So don't go.

That's how you be smart about it. You must be a pretty shitty lawyer because your counterarguments are so predictable and fail.

"You be smart about it" by avoiding certain areas that are known to be dangerous?

Then your below claim is flawed:

Every where in Trinidad can be safe.

...seeing how that "every where" actually excludes places where there isn't "anything to see", ie known crime-ridden areas of Trinidad and Tobago. Though, one would initially read your statement to mean every community, every neighborhood, every town and every street.

My suggestion still stands that there is no safe vicinity in Trinidad though there are safer areas that come to mind.

[Cjruckus]

Picton is safe if you are from picton. The Cocoa in Bournes Road is safe if you are from The Cocoa. Factory road etc etc.

That's how it goes sometimes. If you are a stranger in a area you will be looked at closer than a resident.

But when last have you been to trinidad anyway?

[AbstractPoetic]

Picton is safe if you are from picton. The Cocoa in Bournes Road is safe if you are from The Cocoa. Factory road etc etc.

So now your 'everywhere can be safe' claim is contingent on whether or not you are from an area?

That's how it goes sometimes. If you are a stranger in a area you will be looked at closer than a resident.

That applies to anywhere you go, even the wealthier of communities.

But should safety not be dependent on anyone's ability to enter and leave a vicinity with a slim to none chance of being attacked, robbed, killed or close to a shooting/ambush, etc?

But when last have you been to trinidad anyway?

What does this have to do with the topic at hand? Let's focus, shall we?

[noobie]

You all really having this 'argument'?

How about focusing on someone getting shot and killed on our equivalent of the miami beach boardwalk at 11pm.

The Green park was a wonderful space which we typically lack in Trinidad. We have no green areas, properly landscaped and taken care of with paths, benches etc. (Don't talk about the Hollows in the Savannah...that was maybe true 30 years ago) and someone gets murdered there.

Not to mention Movietowne is supposed to have adequate security, and surveillance cameras etc. etc. etc. which our increased ticket prices, the rents from the shops etc. are supposed to pay for.

[rodfarva]

AbstractPoetic,

why you so argumentative for?

everywhere in trinidad can be safe..... because of the word can.
if the statement was "everywhere in trinidad is safe to everyone" then it would be wrong.

your fighting down a silly technicality.

[pugboy]

One thing for sure is that MT has truly been successful in being able to capture their marketshare with their perceived experience of safety, quality etc

I know people who basically only go to pricesmart/movietowne, they refuse to go anywhere else for whatever reasons

[noobie]

One thing for sure is that MT has truly been successful in being able to capture their marketshare with their perceived experience of safety, quality etc

Yeah well....there goes that selling point.

[Stephon.]

Theres a bar in greenpark?
News just said the victim was working in green park bar when he got robbed and shot.

[Greypatch]

Thank jesus for opening a movietowne in shaguanas

dey have enterprise

For real Its just a matter of time I give it a couple months.....Gonna have alot of car stealing and stuff cause crown trace is just seconds away from movietowne car park.....


Once you in trinidad no where safe....we are surrounded by criminal elements......

That is why TT needs better property tax & zoning laws.

SIGH, if only the program was advertised and presented in a better way could I be signing its praises even more, but alas Manning like to shove thing down ppl throat.

Better zoning=Less likely to interact with Guntas.
Just as it is in most developed nations.

We need this Property Tax thing to work for a brighter and safer T&T...if it doesn't well just consider it another waste of taxes and business as usual

correct as usual

[noobie]

Theres a bar in greenpark?
News just said the victim was working in green park bar when he got robbed and shot.

Yeah..I didn't know that.Sounds like real nonsense though. If I were those business owners I'd be demanding that security etc. be improved where possible to stop that. Because otherwise guntas will start to see it as a 'soft' target.

[Greypatch]

bomb all parasites.

erase part of the legacy the deaf facker leave behind

[noobie]

That is why TT needs better property tax & zoning laws.
Better zoning=Less likely to interact with Guntas.

correct as usual

How is Zoning and Property Tax going to prevent crime?

How on earth is Zoning going to prevent people jumping in a taxi to go somewhere?

The idlers and loiterers in Movietowne don't necessarily live nearby do they.

How about as a practical solution implementing a simple No Loitering rule and enforcing it? You either at an establishment or you walking to or from an establishment. None of these groups of youths standing up glaring at each other and at you passing by.

But it seems that Movietowne prefers not to pay enough security or have them properly trained to do what has to be done.

[Mr. Mag]

the sad and basic truth: you can raise the price of any place to whatever price if anyone of any class wants to go they will find the means to go.......if they raise the price to $300 a tkt, the lower class may not come as often but they will still come....remember when Zen was supposed to be "exclusive"? Zen like 5th Element in Arima now.....as a result I no longer go. 51 is still alrite because they screen but whether u like it or not the 'element' will always find a way to infiltrate the ambience........

[DTAC]

MovieTowne is free to visit. So tickets can be $1000 and the elements will congregate outside that's all. I went last night with a couple of friends. One set of people just leaning up on the shop glass and watching.

[noobie]

MovieTowne is free to visit. So tickets can be $1000 and the elements will congregate outside that's all. I went last night with a couple of friends. One set of people just leaning up on the shop glass and watching.

That's the same damn thing I talking about.

No Loitering policy.
Pay armed guards to have a presence.

you have to, if you want to maintain a standard. Trinidad get too dread now.

[Stephon.]

MovieTowne is free to visit. So tickets can be $1000 and the elements will congregate outside that's all. I went last night with a couple of friends. One set of people just leaning up on the shop glass and watching.

That's the same damn thing I talking about.

No Loitering policy.
Pay armed guards to have a presence.

you have to, if you want to maintain a standard. Trinidad get too dread now.

This.

[Cjruckus]

But when last have you been to trinidad anyway?

What does this have to do with the topic at hand? Let's focus, shall we?

has everything to do with it because you can't say a place is unsafe if you aren't there all the time. Going somewhere for vacation and living there is two completely different things.

in short... I win.
I have just rendered your law school tuition null and void. No Refund for you darkness.

[Cjruckus]

Wait wait wait wait..

I take back everything i just said.

I didnt realize that AP was an intern at a law firm and has yet to even do 1 day of class at any reputable law school.

So what the hell are you doing on the internet anyway?
Someones coffee is getting cold.

[Stephon.]

But when last have you been to trinidad anyway?

What does this have to do with the topic at hand? Let's focus, shall we?

has everything to do with it because you can't say a place is unsafe if you aren't there all the time. Going somewhere for vacation and living there is two completely different things.

in short... I win.
I have just rendered your law school tuition null and void. No Refund for you darkness.

HAHAHAHAHAH u like real sheit xD

[Smokey]

Simple solution, barricade the entire the facility and implement a Movietowne Visa so that only those that posses that visa will have access. Do background checks and location checks (e.g. no one from Lavantille, Beetham, Belmont etc. can obtain one).

Simple and effective....will txt this to derek chin in the morning

[Jon_One]

It very well may have been a shoot out over some squabble or beef and not due to a robbery or hold up. I certainly hope it is the former.

Sorry to dissapoint.

A friend who was in the park at the time told me the two were apparently liming together and got into a fight and one pull out gun for the other, and well... ya know...

it was a friend of a friend of mine....

apparently the fellas robbed him of a fake gold chain ...
after they rob him he tried running and when he took off they shot him...
it was lil boys who did it

he was 18 or 19 .... he was gonna see a movie ... R.I.P

[Cjruckus]

It very well may have been a shoot out over some squabble or beef and not due to a robbery or hold up. I certainly hope it is the former.

Sorry to dissapoint.

A friend who was in the park at the time told me the two were apparently liming together and got into a fight and one pull out gun for the other, and well... ya know...

it was a friend of a friend of mine....

apparently the fellas robbed him of a fake gold chain ...
after they rob him he tried running and when he took off they shot him...
it was lil boys who did it

he was 18 or 19 .... he was gonna see a movie ... R.I.P

what an idiot.

Man get shoot down for a fake chain?

[Jon_One]

An is after they take the chain too....