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Postby zoom rader » February 7th, 2012, 1:54 pm

d spike wrote:
cacasplat3 wrote:another thing, i think the UK is a bit foolish to start drilling when tensions are high.......Gordon Brown and his merry men should stop being childish and try to resolve the issues instead of chooking fire.....


This, I agree with.


You agree to this? Shows how very little you know of the UK.

who is Gordon Brown?

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Re: Who should have rights to the Falkland Islands ?

Postby Habit7 » February 7th, 2012, 1:57 pm

My issue is why Antigua and Barbuda, Dominica and Saint Vincent and the Grenadines taking sides in such a heated confrontation. With the exception of Dominica, the Queen is still their head of state. Their citizens could be drafted to fight for the UK if there is any war.

Old ppl does say: cockroach have no business in fowl party.

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Postby Habit7 » February 7th, 2012, 2:01 pm

zoom rader wrote:You agree to this? Shows how very little you know of the UK.

who is Gordon Brown?

this is either sarcasm or blatant stupidity

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Re: Who should have rights to the Falkland Islands ?

Postby zoom rader » February 7th, 2012, 2:01 pm

Habit7 wrote:My issue is why Antigua and Barbuda, Dominica and Saint Vincent and the Grenadines taking sides in such a heated confrontation. With the exception of Dominica, the Queen is still their head of state. Their citizens could be drafted to fight for the UK if there is any war.

Old ppl does say: cockroach have no business in fowl party.

It is dumb for these counties to block Brit ships. All the Brits have to do is to stop Aid and funding to these banana Republics and pull their free Visa rights into the UK.

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Postby zoom rader » February 7th, 2012, 2:04 pm

Habit7 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:You agree to this? Shows how very little you know of the UK.

who is Gordon Brown?

this is either sarcasm or blatant stupidity

Think about it , who is Gordon Brown?

I know who is David Cameron

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Re: Who should have rights to the Falkland Islands ?

Postby William18 » February 7th, 2012, 2:05 pm

Thanks Dizzy28...but in truth we all know that another invasion could spark a huge war....
1 Argentine soldier shoots 1 british soldier and all hell is going to break loose with caribbean countries in the middle....

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Re: Who should have rights to the Falkland Islands ?

Postby Habit7 » February 7th, 2012, 2:12 pm

Gordon Brown was the PM of the UK in February 2010...you know....the time when the comment was originally posted

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Re: Who should have rights to the Falkland Islands ?

Postby Dizzy28 » February 7th, 2012, 2:17 pm

William18 wrote:Thanks Dizzy28...but in truth we all know that another invasion could spark a huge war....
1 Argentine soldier shoots 1 british soldier and all hell is going to break loose with caribbean countries in the middle....


How are we going to be in the middle? Aside from those Caribbean countries still with the Queen as the head all the rest are member of the Non Aligned Nations (including Trinidad). We can't officially take any sides and we not geographically close to any possible theatre of operations provided Venezuela stays out.

The UK wouldn't be able to fight on two fronts anyhow unless NATO intervenes.

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Re: Who should have rights to the Falkland Islands ?

Postby William18 » February 7th, 2012, 2:27 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:
William18 wrote:Thanks Dizzy28...but in truth we all know that another invasion could spark a huge war....
1 Argentine soldier shoots 1 british soldier and all hell is going to break loose with caribbean countries in the middle....


How are we going to be in the middle? Aside from those Caribbean countries still with the Queen as the head all the rest are member of the Non Aligned Nations (including Trinidad). We can't officially take any sides and we not geographically close to any possible theatre of operations provided Venezuela stays out.

The UK wouldn't be able to fight on two fronts anyhow unless NATO intervenes.


But Chavez not staying out this time... We could be drawn in innocently....

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Re: Who should have rights to the Falkland Islands ?

Postby zoom rader » February 7th, 2012, 2:27 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:
William18 wrote:Thanks Dizzy28...but in truth we all know that another invasion could spark a huge war....
1 Argentine soldier shoots 1 british soldier and all hell is going to break loose with caribbean countries in the middle....


How are we going to be in the middle? Aside from those Caribbean countries still with the Queen as the head all the rest are member of the Non Aligned Nations (including Trinidad). We can't officially take any sides and we not geographically close to any possible theatre of operations provided Venezuela stays out.

The UK wouldn't be able to fight on two fronts anyhow unless NATO intervenes.

The UK can fight without NATO when it has to protect its own. You think the US needs NATO to appove a war.
Who do the think the US will support in this?

Besides this is loss cause, the Argentinans will be at a great loss from the brits fire power.

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Re: Who should have rights to the Falkland Islands ?

Postby William18 » February 7th, 2012, 2:31 pm

When the Queen get fed up we will just see a big mushroom in the distance anyway in south trinidad......

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Re: Who should have rights to the Falkland Islands ?

Postby Dizzy28 » February 7th, 2012, 2:35 pm

The UK has 1 Aircraft carrier with only helicopters. Their power projection is weak at best. They stand no chance against a combined South American alliance especially with forces still in Afghanistan.

They would depend on NATO assisting them with materiel, men and intelligence as they scrapped their Nimrods as well.

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Re: Who should have rights to the Falkland Islands ?

Postby zoom rader » February 7th, 2012, 2:43 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:The UK has 1 Aircraft carrier with only helicopters. Their power projection is weak at best. They stand no chance against a combined South American alliance especially with forces still in Afghanistan.

They would depend on NATO assisting them with materiel, men and intelligence as they scrapped their Nimrods as well.


I dont think you understand how the brits wins war. They dont need Aircraft carriers and Nimrods again. This is a country thats keeps its secrets well. They got one Ship HMS Dauntless that can take out the entire SA. You think only the US has secrets planes?

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Re: Who should have rights to the Falkland Islands ?

Postby William18 » February 7th, 2012, 3:10 pm

zoom rader wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:The UK has 1 Aircraft carrier with only helicopters. Their power projection is weak at best. They stand no chance against a combined South American alliance especially with forces still in Afghanistan.

They would depend on NATO assisting them with materiel, men and intelligence as they scrapped their Nimrods as well.


I dont think you understand how the brits wins war. They dont need Aircraft carriers and Nimrods again. This is a country thats keeps its secrets well. They got one Ship HMS Dauntless that can take out the entire SA. You think only the US has secrets planes?


Well played....

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Re: Who should have rights to the Falkland Islands ?

Postby Strauss » February 7th, 2012, 3:25 pm

Master and Commander...

Give it to the lesser of two weevils

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Re: Who should have rights to the Falkland Islands ?

Postby Habit7 » February 7th, 2012, 3:37 pm

England has been doing this for centuries, just presence of the English fleet made the Spanish back down in Trinidad (even though they could have put up a good fight).

I will always put my money on the English, and if Vene jump in, the US would finally get to put on the hurting they have been waiting to do all these years.

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Re: Who should have rights to the Falkland Islands ?

Postby JoKeR1980 » January 3rd, 2013, 12:44 pm

London (CNN) -- Argentinian President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner is once again calling on the UK to hand back the Falkland Islands -- known in Argentina as Las Malvinas -- accusing Britain of blatant colonialism.

In an open letter to British Prime Minister David Cameron, which was published in the British press, she says that Britain stripped the islands away from Argentina 180 years ago on Thursday's date: January 3.

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/01/03/world ... ?hpt=hp_t3

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Re: Who should have rights to the Falkland Islands ?

Postby zoom rader » January 3rd, 2013, 1:24 pm

^^^ There is no way that the brits will give up the island. The people on the island said that they prefer to remain British . Besides there is a vast amount of oil there.

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Re: Who should have rights to the Falkland Islands ?

Postby Rallyfignis » January 3rd, 2013, 1:39 pm

I dare Argentina to kick up a fuss...

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Re: Who should have rights to the Falkland Islands ?

Postby Habit7 » January 3rd, 2013, 1:45 pm

The PM of Argentina have low approval ratings and continually trying to stir up a nationalist issue to get support.

Kinda like a PM i know...

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Re: Who should have rights to the Falkland Islands ?

Postby d spike » January 3rd, 2013, 8:50 pm

Habit7 wrote:The PM of Argentina have low approval ratings and continually trying to stir up a nationalist issue to get support.

Kinda like a PM i know...

:D :D :D

Why do folk think Argentina has "more" rights over the Falklands than anyone else?
d spike wrote:The Falklands were British before Argentina was Argentinian.

The Falkland Islands took their English name from "Falkland Sound", the channel between the two main islands, which was in turn named after Anthony Cary, 5th Viscount of Falkland, by Captain John Strong, who landed on the islands in 1690. The Spanish name, las (Islas) Malvinas, is derived from the French name, Îles Malouines, named by Louis Antoine de Bougainville in 1764 after the first known settlers, mariners and fishermen from the Breton port of Saint-Malo in France.

While Amerindians from Patagonia could have visited the Falklands, the islands were uninhabited when discovered by Europeans. The first reliable sighting is usually attributed to the Dutch explorer Sebald de Weert in 1600, who named the archipelago the Sebald Islands, a name they bore on Dutch maps into the 19th century.
In 1690, Captain John Strong of the Welfare en route to Puerto Deseado was driven off course and reached the Falkland Islands instead, landing at Bold Cove. Sailing between the two principal islands, he called the passage "Falkland Channel" (now Falkland Sound), after Anthony Cary, 5th Viscount of Falkland, who as Commissioner of the Admiralty had financed the expedition. The island group takes its English name from this body of water.
In 1764, French navigator and military commander Louis Antoine de Bougainville founded the first settlement on Berkeley Sound, in present-day Port Louis, East Falkland. In 1765, British captain John Byron explored and claimed Saunders Island on West Falkland, where he named the harbour Port Egmont and a settlement was constructed in 1766. Unaware of the French presence, Byron claimed the island group for King George III. Spain acquired the French colony in 1767, and placed it under a governor subordinate to the Spanish Buenos Aires colonial administration. In 1770, Spain attacked Port Egmont and expelled the British presence, bringing the two countries to the brink of war. War was avoided by a peace treaty and the British return to Port Egmont.

Argentina didn’t even exist at this time.

The Spanish raised the status of this South American region by establishing the Viceroyalty of the Río de la Plata in 1776. This viceroyalty consisted of today's Argentina, Uruguay, and Paraguay, as well as much of present-day Bolivia.
The name Argentina was used to refer to the area of the La Plata Basin, not a "country".

The overthrow of the Spanish King Ferdinand VII during the Peninsular War in 1808 created great concern in the Americas, so many cities deposed the monarchic authorities... This started the Spanish American wars of independence across the continent. Buenos Aires deposed the viceroy Baltasar Hidalgo de Cisneros in 1810, during the May Revolution
The Argentine Declaration of Independence was issued by the Congress of Tucumán in 1816. The area was formally called Viceroyalty of the Río de la Plata, and United Provinces of the Río de la Plata after independence.
The first formal use of the name was in the 1826 constitution, which used both the terms "Argentine Republic" and "Argentine Nation"


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Re: Who should have rights to the Falkland Islands ?

Postby Dizzy28 » January 4th, 2013, 11:14 am

I find there should a one off home and away football tie between Argentina and a combined UK football team for the Falklands. Let Messi Vs Bale decide.

Can't do any worse that Kirchner and Cameron.

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Re: Who should have rights to the Falkland Islands ?

Postby JoKeR1980 » January 4th, 2013, 1:37 pm

now The Sun gets in on it

(CNN) -- A British newspaper waded into the argument between Britain and Argentina over sovereignty of the Falkland Islands on Friday, publishing an open letter in a Buenos Aires newspaper saying "hands off" the disputed territory.

The Sun's letter, printed in the Buenos Aires Herald, was a riposte to an open letter published in the British press Thursday in which Argentinian President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner called on the UK to hand back the islands, known in Argentina as Las Malvinas.

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/01/04/world ... ?hpt=hp_t3

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Re: Who should have rights to the Falkland Islands ?

Postby d spike » January 4th, 2013, 4:14 pm

JoKeR1980 wrote:now The Sun gets in on it

(CNN) -- A British newspaper waded into the argument between Britain and Argentina over sovereignty of the Falkland Islands on Friday, publishing an open letter in a Buenos Aires newspaper saying "hands off" the disputed territory.

The Sun's letter, printed in the Buenos Aires Herald, was a riposte to an open letter published in the British press Thursday in which Argentinian President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner called on the UK to hand back the islands, known in Argentina as Las Malvinas.

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/01/04/world ... ?hpt=hp_t3

de Kirchner is really trying. How can one hand "back" what was never yours? smh

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