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Postby 16 cycles » February 18th, 2010, 7:02 am

gt4tified wrote:
SR wrote:i dunno but i have yet to find an american brand that can compete with a european brand when it comes to audiophile grade systems


Amen. Preach brudda, preach!


Refer to 'Acurus' IIRC- made in US and extremely clean and effecient amps.

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Postby evo-STI-k » February 18th, 2010, 7:36 am

dsaint wrote:Great if you like Jazz music IMO. If you want good surround particularly for music BOSE is definitely not for you. A lot of the BOSE systems that are advertised as Home theatre systems (Acoustimass series) actually miss a pretty large part of the sound spectrum.


Small speakers, biug sound? isnt that what they normally preach?

more like small speakers and sound to match!

BOSE just does NOT sound good! and its SOOOO overly overprices and expensive!

anyone who buys an acoustimass system is an idiot!

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Postby ek4ever » February 18th, 2010, 3:34 pm

Start your own hi end audio system....

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/ ... /DEX-P99RS

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Postby dsaint » February 18th, 2010, 3:44 pm

evo-STI-k wrote:
dsaint wrote:Great if you like Jazz music IMO. If you want good surround particularly for music BOSE is definitely not for you. A lot of the BOSE systems that are advertised as Home theatre systems (Acoustimass series) actually miss a pretty large part of the sound spectrum.


Small speakers, biug sound? isnt that what they normally preach?

more like small speakers and sound to match!

BOSE just does NOT sound good! and its SOOOO overly overprices and expensive!

anyone who buys an acoustimass system is an idiot!


Hey Hey! Easy Dere man .... I repented and saw the folly of my ways! :) When you coming to check the system? :)

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » February 18th, 2010, 5:32 pm

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@Duane 3NE 2NR, B&O used to be similar to Bose in terms of their 'hype'. At one point in time I actually owned a B&O A8 Headphone and it was all hype and no performance. Recently I heard the B&O system in the '10 Audi A5 and was presently surprised... guess that B&O are avant-garde now.


I wouldn't judge a company's range of speakers and systems based on a set of headphones.

On another note I've been hearing good things about Definitive Technology www.definitivetech.com

I'd love to her a set of these
http://www.definitivetech.com/Products/ ... s%20XTR-50
since my wall mounted TV is also about 1.5" thick.

But I cant help to be convinced taht floor standers will sound much better and well if not PSBs I'd love to own a pair of Paradigm Studio floor standers one day.

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Postby acesinghit » February 18th, 2010, 7:09 pm

I see some of you all are carrying your auto brand patriotism/fanboyism towards the choice of high-end audio systems namely that of Bose and the competitors we all so easily pointed out. I think given the information posted by the OP, I for one will not doubt the over-rated marketing for these systems however I will listen to an independent sound engineer faster than just general public and I assume you guys think just the same as we always want facts and sources to prove such.

So for those who brought the automotive audio discussion, here is something for your perusal. The underdogs will have word too.

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Postby pugboy » February 18th, 2010, 7:53 pm

I don't think Jazz listeners are too much into Bose,

the high end audiophile fanatics are Jazz/live music listeners and somehow I doubt they spend their money on Bose.

the real jazz audiophiles use equipment with parts like these
http://cgi.ebay.com/Quad-Set-Western-El ... 3efc7331a1



dsaint wrote:Great if you like Jazz music IMO. If you want good surround particularly for movies BOSE is definitely not for you. A lot of the BOSE systems that are advertised as Home theatre systems (e.g. Acoustimass series) actually miss a pretty large part of the sound spectrum.

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Postby SR » February 18th, 2010, 8:32 pm

this is one of the top IASCA SQ competitors who works as an engineer for panasonic on tuning of the els system

http://www.caraudiomag.com/news/caep_06 ... index.html

i have listened 1st hand to his competitions vehicles and the echo sounds fantastic
you can close your eyes and imagine you are in front of a real stage with a live orchestra playing and pin point exactly where every instrument sound is coming from


but guess what


he's not using panasonic in his competition car :mrgreen:

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Postby dsaint » February 18th, 2010, 11:09 pm

pugboy wrote:I don't think Jazz listeners are too much into Bose,

the high end audiophile fanatics are Jazz/live music listeners and somehow I doubt they spend their money on Bose.

the real jazz audiophiles use equipment with parts like these
http://cgi.ebay.com/Quad-Set-Western-El ... 3efc7331a1



dsaint wrote:Great if you like Jazz music IMO. If you want good surround particularly for movies BOSE is definitely not for you. A lot of the BOSE systems that are advertised as Home theatre systems (e.g. Acoustimass series) actually miss a pretty large part of the sound spectrum.


Maybe so but ever notice how most of the BOSE demos use Jazz music? I know a couple of people who are heavy into Jazz and that's actually what sold them on Bose. From Bookshelf to Acoustimass systems. *shrug*

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Postby ek4ever » February 19th, 2010, 10:26 am

gt4tified wrote:
SR wrote:i dunno but i have yet to find an american brand that can compete with a european brand when it comes to audiophile grade systems


Amen. Preach brudda, preach!


What about Milbert.....it's 100% Made in the US of A

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Postby crazybalhead » February 19th, 2010, 10:49 am

A sound system should never sopund good with one type of music over another, then it is doing something wrong.

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Postby evo-STI-k » February 19th, 2010, 11:11 am

when you abroad next time- walk into a BOSE store with your calypso CD, ask them to play that!

when they do and they realise the bose sheits cant handle the bass, they blame it on poor cd quality!

faking bullerz @ BOSE

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Postby zorz » March 10th, 2010, 3:32 am

So i was testing out this site that gives you alternatives to something. I typed in bose just for fun and this is what I found... Guess this site works well after all :D

http://dooblet.com/alternative-to-bose

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Postby silent_riot » March 10th, 2010, 11:10 am

I do agree with Shazad, the american made stuff does not compare well to the English/Euro, and definitely can't compare with the Japanese stuff.

My home system is all euro speakers with an english made tube amp, american cd player. The weakness of the system is the CD player and my diy enclosures. :oops:

These days, though, I am looking into getting Japanese audio equipment for home.

The Japanese folks spend huge amounts of money on audio equipment....high quality stuff like ALE compression drivers. They don't compromise on quality at all.

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Postby gt4tified » March 10th, 2010, 1:17 pm

Anybody have ah McIntosh tube amp for sale? I need one, but budget limited to around 10k.

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » March 10th, 2010, 3:25 pm

zorz wrote:So i was testing out this site that gives you alternatives to something. I typed in bose just for fun and this is what I found... Guess this site works well after all :D

http://dooblet.com/alternative-to-bose


LOL @ comparing Bose to Logitech

I dunno if that makes Bose look bad or if it proves that Logitech sounds like crap

kill some ppl dead that Logitech Z5500 is audiophile stuff

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Postby zorz » March 10th, 2010, 6:47 pm

LOL me eh even see logitech on da list.. but then again... A Z5500 does sound better than a bose wave radio ... even thou is still RIP off :D

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » March 10th, 2010, 6:52 pm

^ yeah cause it has 5 speakers and a big subwoofer

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Postby gt4tified » March 10th, 2010, 7:24 pm

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:^ yeah cause it has 5 speakers and a big subwoofer


Try fitting all that on your bed side table!

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Postby X2 » March 10th, 2010, 8:52 pm

if it's got no highs and no lows.... it's gotta be Bose...

I used to sell the home systems years ago when acoustimass was still 'new'. I was trained by Bose and thier company admittedly is well run, the techs are articulate and eager to discuss thier technology, etc...

The acoustimass systems are good for the money if you are an average listener to music lover, but not necessarily an audiophile as true audiophiles tear it apart with critique. At least years ago, the product was quite reliable, very well packaged and marketed, which isn't as bad as people are making it sound. Bose allows the average user to enter the 'upscale' speaker market comfortably with a quality product that sounds very clear, yet conceals very well... most other brands don't give you this for the money. We did blow up a few 301 models and one acoustimass sub and sattelite speaker in a couple years of messing with them tho... fun !

I must say, the old 701's and 901's were some damn impressive speakers for back in the day.

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