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Postby Wolfie » January 30th, 2009, 1:47 pm

Think it's gonna still be in the billions after or just hundreds of millions?

corollalover101 wrote:^^ but it's not known yet, the liabilities are $16B TT but there are assets to offset

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Postby eliteauto » January 30th, 2009, 1:48 pm

Wolfie wrote:And what presidence does this set for other companies?

ray786 wrote:The bail out figure.... it is a lot of money :| :|


I know you meant precedent :wink: and actually whilst it may be new here, State/Government capital injections/ liability guarantees are nothing new internationally and have been par for the course in the last year both in the US and Europe

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Postby SR » January 30th, 2009, 1:48 pm

as with any 'takeover" or change of ownership there will alawys be reshuffling to remove non performing and redundatn positions

as the new "owner" will want to recover its investement asap

middle managemnt and top posisitons will probably be looked at first and then filter down to staff

usually when it reaches down to general staff level is first in first out due to lack of experience

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Postby Notorious Scullman » January 30th, 2009, 1:48 pm

"Technically" it's not.

In fact it is a bailout of an insolvent group of companies by purchasing viable assets instead of the troubled ones

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Postby RASC » January 30th, 2009, 1:49 pm

SR wrote:as with any 'takeover" or change of ownership there will alawys be reshuffling to remove non performing and redundatn positions

as the new "owner" will want to recover its investement asap

middle managemnt and top posisitons will probably be looked at first and then filter down to staff

usually when it reaches down to general staff level is first in first out due to lack of experience


Yup...it's expected, and not surprising.

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Postby slick » January 30th, 2009, 1:50 pm

Did they just say CL Fianancial is "divesting" the 55% sharing holding of Republic Bank to FCB and NIB?

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Postby Notorious Scullman » January 30th, 2009, 1:52 pm

slick wrote:Did they just say CL Fianancial is "divesting" the 55% sharing holding of Republic Bank to FCB and NIB?


:?: :shock:

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Postby slick » January 30th, 2009, 1:56 pm

shiet hittin d fan big time

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Postby SmokeyGTi » January 30th, 2009, 1:57 pm

^^ :shock: :shock:

oh s.hit!


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Postby Notorious Scullman » January 30th, 2009, 1:57 pm

CL's auditors are PWC and were last audited in 2007. :shock:

Cat in bag?

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Postby DTAC » January 30th, 2009, 1:58 pm

Global financial crisis really hitting home now.

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Postby drunkenscorpion » January 30th, 2009, 1:59 pm

Notorious Scullman wrote:CL's auditors are PWC and were last audited in 2007. :shock:

Cat in bag?


08 audit going on right now. Usually takes some months to complete the audit giving the depth of the portfolio

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Postby Greypatch » January 30th, 2009, 1:59 pm

nah will hit home on ash wednesday....or after the last las lap fete

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Postby soundboy101 » January 30th, 2009, 1:59 pm

so where does this leaves HCU, why there wasnt any intervention for them

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Postby roadhog » January 30th, 2009, 2:00 pm

this is just the begining. same thing with LB in the states. things not gonna get any better now. CASH IS KING!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Postby Aaron 2NR » January 30th, 2009, 2:01 pm

ok so an overall update...im at work and cant hear wats goin on over the radio..

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Postby ray d saint » January 30th, 2009, 2:01 pm

RASC wrote:Technically this is not a bailout folks. Stop with the sensationalism please :!:


so what is it???... please do render u r expert opinion...

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Postby Greypatch » January 30th, 2009, 2:01 pm

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Postby SmokeyGTi » January 30th, 2009, 2:01 pm

soundboy101 wrote:so where does this leaves HCU, why there wasnt any intervention for them


is not the institution, is the person.

L Duprey <> H Harrynarine

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Postby RASC » January 30th, 2009, 2:02 pm

soundboy101 wrote:so where does this leaves HCU, why there wasnt any intervention for them


They answered that question already...
The central bank doesn't control anything within HCU therefore-there is no vested interest by the gov't or the ppl of Trinidad and Tobago to prevent it from sinking.

Let it die is what I say.

When wholly private financials are about to die...LET them die!

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Postby eliteauto » January 30th, 2009, 2:03 pm

The Minister is asking for responsible reporting and to avoid sensationalism
*awaits The Guardian's headline tomorrow*

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Postby tr1ad » January 30th, 2009, 2:03 pm

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Postby RASC » January 30th, 2009, 2:03 pm

ray786 wrote:
RASC wrote:Technically this is not a bailout folks. Stop with the sensationalism please :!:


so what is it???... please do render u r expert opinion...


A bailout would be..."Here look the cash, but you have to do x,y and z"

This is a BUY out!

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Postby Conrad » January 30th, 2009, 2:04 pm

RASC wrote:
ray786 wrote:
RASC wrote:Technically this is not a bailout folks. Stop with the sensationalism please :!:


so what is it???... please do render u r expert opinion...


A bailout would be..."Here look the cash, but you have to do x,y and z"

This is a BUY out!


Techinicality is a beyotch.

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Postby SR » January 30th, 2009, 2:04 pm

yeah but its similar at the same time

please buy my non perfoming investments as i cannot afford to keep them running

so now they are no longer my headache

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Postby eliteauto » January 30th, 2009, 2:06 pm

RASC wrote:
soundboy101 wrote:so where does this leaves HCU, why there wasnt any intervention for them


They answered that question already...
The central bank doesn't control anything within HCU therefore-there is no vested interest by the gov't or the ppl of Trinidad and Tobago to prevent it from sinking.

Let it die is what I say.

When wholly private financials are about to die...LET them die!


The HCU does not fall under the ambit of the Central Bank from the regulatory position, thus they could not intervene

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Postby slick » January 30th, 2009, 2:07 pm

wonder what will be the effect on the uneducated masses...

confidence...

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Postby RASC » January 30th, 2009, 2:07 pm

SR wrote:yeah but its similar at the same time

please buy my non perfoming investments as i cannot afford to keep them running

so now they are no longer my headache


Kinda sorta, but not really///
Remember the FCB is a branch of the gov't. Technically speaking it's not the gov't only...private citizens, private companies have investments/assets with them.

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Postby aR&D » January 30th, 2009, 2:08 pm

RASC wrote:
soundboy101 wrote:so where does this leaves HCU, why there wasnt any intervention for them


They answered that question already...
The central bank doesn't control anything within HCU therefore-there is no vested interest by the gov't or the ppl of Trinidad and Tobago to prevent it from sinking.

Let it die is what I say.

When wholly private financials are about to die...LET them die!


The word is not "Control" it is Regulated ...and yes, the HCU, like all Credit Unions are CBTT regulated.

The CL Financial Group is a wholly private financial organization.

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Postby slick » January 30th, 2009, 2:08 pm

SR wrote:yeah but its similar at the same time

please buy my non perfoming investments as i cannot afford to keep them running

so now they are no longer my headache

rbl is a non-performing investment?

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