Local Covid Anti-Vaxxers vs Studies Spammers

[De Dragon]

Lol this antigen thing to return to trinidad is kix.

A crew of my padnas went curacao for Easter weekend. The travel agent organise antigen tests as part of the package.
They were done at the hotel the morning before they were to come home

They say a very very slight swab at the entrance of the nostril and thats all.

Realistically no one wants a positive test to be trapped abroad. The hotel nor the travel agent nor the traveler.


Covid real sweeping tru though.

If is 500 do pcr....50 k must be actively have it.

Imagine they used to stick a swab quite up your nose and then put it in a machine to amplify it and then test and test and test until they find the "virus". I remember back in the day, when you have a virus you used to know based on you symptoms. But this incredibly deadly virus needs a machine to tell you you have it.

You're aware that plenty of people with Covid have symptoms right?

Yes, most people have extremely mild symptoms. Unfortunately facts don't care about feelings.

I swear, ollour antivaxxers in a different world yes! Where s the "virus seeking machine" when you do a home test?
Symptoms of a disease are still symptoms of a disease, whether mild or not

[adnj]

daily case counts doing their job... scare mongering and keeping ppl on edge. that fear is used to justify lockdowns and harsh irrational measures.

continue

The world is looking at the data differently. You keep concentrating on the big number of the chart.



We're closely tracking also ... the other public health impacts, how many people are getting severely ill, how many people need to be admitted to the hospital, how many people need to go to the ICU and require mechanical ventilation. And we know that those things happen with the lag. So one of the other reasons we really like case counts is because ... you can observe that earlier than you see hospitalizations or ICU utilization. But we're starting to see some trends. We're seeing hospitalizations are going way up. They are increasing quickly. But we're keeping a close eye on mechanical ventilation use. We're not seeing the same rise as we've seen in prior waves with delta. Some of that may be some of the lags, but when we look at data from London and South Africa, and other European countries, there is sort of a picture emerging. So we're tracking all those things together. Those all give us a sense of the impact.

https://www.npr.org/2022/01/04/10700082 ... alizations

[bluefete]

Long form covid????

[sMASH]

so, if the world looking at 'other' numbers, is the MoH resuming covee HDU facilities to be ready and waiting for the influx?
or are they waiting for it to occur, then scramble to admit and treat?
or is the current set up able to deal with projected figures?

[adnj]

And you thought that omicron meant no more COVID.


The country’s new infections are now several thousand per day, up from a few hundred a few weeks ago.

According to Phaahla, there was currently no information indicating the emergence of a new strain, which scientists had earlier suggested may drive the country’s fifth wave, expected during the country’s upcoming winter season from May into June.

“We have always been informed that when a new wave comes, it will be driven by a new variant, but at this stage we have not been alerted to a definite new variant except changes in the omicron,” said Phaahla.

Three South African provinces — Gauteng, KwaZulu-Natal and Western Cape — currently are accounting for 85% of new infections, with the positivity rate in Gauteng and KwaZulu-Natal above 20%, he said.

Hospitalizations from the new cases are increasing but are still relatively low, Dr. Waasila Jassat from the National Institute for Communicable Diseases, said.

“We are starting to see a small rise in hospital admissions in the private and public sector,” said Jassat. “Since around the 17 of April, we are seeing a sharp increase in hospital admissions.”

South Africa has experienced the highest number of infections in Africa since the beginning of the pandemic in 2020, accounting for more than a quarter of the continent’s 11.4 million cases.

More than 252,000 people in South Africa have died from the virus, but the numbers are considered to be much higher when considering the number of excess deaths recorded since the pandemic compared to the same periods before the pandemic.

Just over 44% of South Africa’s adult population has been vaccinated.

https://www.newindianexpress.com/world/ ... 48029.html

[bluefete]

The Economist explains
What we know—and do not know—about long covid
It may actually be a collection of quite different syndromes

Apr 27th 2022 (Updated Apr 29th 2022)


Doctor Nicolas Barizien examines Helen Sideropoulos-Einsargueix, a patient who has been suffering from COVID-19 symptoms for months, during a rehabilitation medical appointment at the Foch hospital in Suresnes, near Paris, France, December 8, 2020. Picture taken December 8, 2020. REUTERS/Benoit Tessier - RC28OK9SLU1K


More than two years since the start of the covid-19 pandemic, scientists have learned a lot about how the SARS-CoV-2 virus affects the body. But the symptoms and complications known as “long covid” are far less understood. America’s Centres for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) defines long covid as the continuation of symptoms for at least four weeks after infection. The World Health Organisation says it usually occurs three months after the onset of the virus and lasts for at least two months. Fatigue, shortness of breath and brain fog are common features. There is little consensus on how to treat it. What is long covid?

The prevalence of long covid is hard to calculate and some early reports gave inflated estimates. The CDC believes one in ten Americans will develop long-covid symptoms more than a month after infection. Britain’s Office for National Statistics (ONS) estimates that 1.7m people, or 2.7% of the population, were experiencing self-reported long covid as of March 5th. Of those, 1.1m found their ability to undertake day-to-day activities seriously curtailed. Most experienced fatigue, a third had shortness of breath, and almost a quarter reported muscle aches. The condition was most common in women, those aged 35 to 49 and in people living in poor areas. Those employed in social care, education or health care were also more likely to report symptoms.


But there are problems with even these careful estimates. Fatigue and muscle ache could be caused by a number of other conditions. An earlier ONS study found that 5% of people infected with covid had at least one of 12 common symptoms 12 to 16 weeks after infection; 3.4% of a control group who had not been infected also reported one of these symptoms.

Confusingly, long covid may actually be a collection of quite different syndromes. For example, any encounter with an infectious disease can have serious long-term consequences. Covid can cause lingering or permanent damage to the lungs and heart. Some cases of long covid may really be “post-intensive care syndrome”, which can affect anyone who spends time in an intensive care unit. Sufferers face serious physical weakness, lung damage and problems with memory and attention. They may have post-traumatic stress disorder. And researchers also wonder if some cases of long covid might be a form of post-viral syndrome, like chronic fatigue. Last, some patients who appear to have long covid may in fact have a continuing infection that their immune system has not cleared.

Because so many people have caught covid, if even a tiny percentage suffer continuing health problems a huge public-health crisis could ensue. Some call it the pandemic after the pandemic. Pharmaceutical companies are pursuing trials of drugs that may help. Studies are under way with a drug called Paxlovid, which is already used to treat covid itself, as well as with other antivirals. Another trial is testing a hypothesis that the virus can impair the ability of human cells to generate energy (which would cause fatigue and muscle weakness). Some firms are looking for solutions to chronic pain, damaged lung function and cognitive defects. Besides helping long-covid sufferers, this work may benefit those with other post-viral conditions, who have long been ignored.

https://www.economist.com/the-economist ... long-covid

[aaron17]

And you thought that omicron meant no more COVID.


The country’s new infections are now several thousand per day, up from a few hundred a few weeks ago.

According to Phaahla, there was currently no information indicating the emergence of a new strain, which scientists had earlier suggested may drive the country’s fifth wave, expected during the country’s upcoming winter season from May into June.

“We have always been informed that when a new wave comes, it will be driven by a new variant, but at this stage we have not been alerted to a definite new variant except changes in the omicron,” said Phaahla.

Three South African provinces — Gauteng, KwaZulu-Natal and Western Cape — currently are accounting for 85% of new infections, with the positivity rate in Gauteng and KwaZulu-Natal above 20%, he said.

Hospitalizations from the new cases are increasing but are still relatively low, Dr. Waasila Jassat from the National Institute for Communicable Diseases, said.

“We are starting to see a small rise in hospital admissions in the private and public sector,” said Jassat. “Since around the 17 of April, we are seeing a sharp increase in hospital admissions.”

South Africa has experienced the highest number of infections in Africa since the beginning of the pandemic in 2020, accounting for more than a quarter of the continent’s 11.4 million cases.

More than 252,000 people in South Africa have died from the virus, but the numbers are considered to be much higher when considering the number of excess deaths recorded since the pandemic compared to the same periods before the pandemic.

Just over 44% of South Africa’s adult population has been vaccinated.

https://www.newindianexpress.com/world/ ... 48029.html

Maybe they losing braincells if they saying its a distant memory.

[redmanjp]

covid does in fact shrink your brain, even mild covid. the same part of the brain responsible for taste & smell.

[adnj]

covid does in fact shrink your brain, even mild covid. the same part of the brain responsible for taste & smell.

The entire brain is affected.

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The results showed that four and half months after a mild COVID infection, patients had lost, on average, between 0.2 and 2 percent of brain volume and had thinner grey matter than healthy people. By comparison, older adults lose between 0.2 and 0.3 percent of their grey matter each year in the hippocampus, a region linked to memory.

In the region of the brain linked to smell, the COVID-19 patients had 0.7 percent more tissue damage compared to healthy people.

https://www.nationalgeographic.co.uk/sc ... -to-shrink

[sMASH]

get vaxed and u wouldnt get covid... protect urself from brain shrinkage!!

[adnj]

About the study

The present paper aimed to profile seven phytochemicals (capsaicin, gingerol, allicin, curcumin, piperine, zingeberene, and cinnamaldehyde) and discover possible therapeutic options against the Omicron variant. The researchers built a three-dimensional layout of Omicron S RBD by integrating 15 amino acid alterations to the Native S structure. The team contrasted the structural changes of the Omicron S with the Native S. The authors docked the seven phytochemicals with the Omicron S-human angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (hACE2) complex and the Omicron S protein. 

In addition, a molecular dynamic (MD) simulation was run between the curcumin and Omicron S protein to assess the structural stability of the complex in a physiological setting. Further, the team compared the results to the control medication chloroquine and GR 127935 hydrochloride.

Conclusions

The study findings illustrated that curcumin harbored the most significant inhibitory capability with Omicron S protein out of the seven phytochemicals tested. The authors also found that curcumin could disturb the Omicron S-hACE2 aggregate. Further, the MD simulation showed that curcumin might establish a stable complex with Omicron S in the physiological milieu.

To summarize, the present data depicted that curcumin has the potential to be used as a medicinal agent against the highly infectious SARS-CoV-2 Omicron variant.

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20220 ... CoV-2.aspx

[redmanjp]

Bill Gates: way more than 5% chance we have not seen the worst of this pandemic

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/02/why-bill-gates-says-the-worst-of-covid-could-still-be-ahead.html

[adnj]

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[hover11]

What percentage of those were elderly and not healthy to begin with? Asking for a friend

[j.o.e]

What percentage of those were elderly and not healthy to begin with? Asking for a friend

[hover11]

What percentage of those were elderly and not healthy to begin with? Asking for a friend

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Nice so mostly old ppl ....now make the further distinction of how many had several comorbidities before Covid-19

[adnj]

When your mama's in a jar next to the TV, COVID doesn't matter.

Summary of Conditions with Evidence
Higher risk for severe COVID-19 outcomes is defined as an underlying medical condition or risk factor that has a published meta-analysis or systematic review or complete the CDC systematic review process. The meta-analysis or systematic review demonstrates good or strong evidence, (depending on the quality of the studies in the review or meta-analysis) for an increase in risk for at least one severe COVID-19 outcome.
Cancer
Cerebrovascular disease
Chronic kidney disease*
Chronic lung diseases limited to:
Interstitial lung disease
Pulmonary embolism
Pulmonary hypertension
Bronchiectasis
COPD (chronic obstructive pulmonary disease)
Chronic liver diseases limited to:
Cirrhosis
Non-alcoholic fatty liver disease
Alcoholic liver disease
Autoimmune hepatitis
Cystic fibrosis
Diabetes mellitus, type 1 and type 2*
Disabilities
Attention-Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD)
Cerebral Palsy
Congenital Malformations (Birth Defects)
Limitations with self-care or activities of daily living
Intellectual and Developmental Disabilities
Learning Disabilities
Spinal Cord Injuries
(For the list of all conditions that were part of the review, see the module below)
Heart conditions (such as heart failure, coronary artery disease, or cardiomyopathies)
HIV (human immunodeficiency virus)
Mental health disorders limited to:
Mood disorders, including depression
Schizophrenia spectrum disorders
Neurologic conditions limited to dementia
Obesity (BMI ≥30 kg/m2)*
Primary Immunodeficiencies
Pregnancy and recent pregnancy
Physical inactivity
Smoking, current and former
Solid organ or hematopoietic cell transplantation
Tuberculosis
Use of corticosteroids or other immunosuppressive medications

[redmanjp]

2 vaxxed 22 unvaxxed deaths in the past week. this could have been a total of only about 4 for the week if the other half of the population was vaxxed.

[redmanjp]

When your mama's in a jar next to the TV, COVID doesn't matter.

Summary of Conditions with Evidence
Higher risk for severe COVID-19 outcomes is defined as an underlying medical condition or risk factor that has a published meta-analysis or systematic review or complete the CDC systematic review process. The meta-analysis or systematic review demonstrates good or strong evidence, (depending on the quality of the studies in the review or meta-analysis) for an increase in risk for at least one severe COVID-19 outcome.
Cancer
Cerebrovascular disease
Chronic kidney disease*
Chronic lung diseases limited to:
Interstitial lung disease
Pulmonary embolism
Pulmonary hypertension
Bronchiectasis
COPD (chronic obstructive pulmonary disease)
Chronic liver diseases limited to:
Cirrhosis
Non-alcoholic fatty liver disease
Alcoholic liver disease
Autoimmune hepatitis
Cystic fibrosis
Diabetes mellitus, type 1 and type 2*
Disabilities
Attention-Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD)
Cerebral Palsy
Congenital Malformations (Birth Defects)
Limitations with self-care or activities of daily living
Intellectual and Developmental Disabilities
Learning Disabilities
Spinal Cord Injuries
(For the list of all conditions that were part of the review, see the module below)
Heart conditions (such as heart failure, coronary artery disease, or cardiomyopathies)
HIV (human immunodeficiency virus)
Mental health disorders limited to:
Mood disorders, including depression
Schizophrenia spectrum disorders
Neurologic conditions limited to dementia
Obesity (BMI ≥30 kg/m2)*
Primary Immunodeficiencies
Pregnancy and recent pregnancy
Physical inactivity
Smoking, current and former
Solid organ or hematopoietic cell transplantation
Tuberculosis
Use of corticosteroids or other immunosuppressive medications

how does adhd, learning disabilities, depression and other mental disorders give u severe covid?

[pugboy]

those things make you more gullible to believe all kinds of social media nonsense

[drchaos]

2 vaxxed 22 unvaxxed deaths in the past week. this could have been a total of only about 4 for the week if the other half of the population was vaxxed.

Yup we should put a gun to their heads and if they dont get vaccinated then we should shoot them.

That should solve the problem with all the unvaxxed deaths ... Ohh wait

[drchaos]

When your mama's in a jar next to the TV, COVID doesn't matter.

Summary of Conditions with Evidence
Higher risk for severe COVID-19 outcomes is defined as an underlying medical condition or risk factor that has a published meta-analysis or systematic review or complete the CDC systematic review process. The meta-analysis or systematic review demonstrates good or strong evidence, (depending on the quality of the studies in the review or meta-analysis) for an increase in risk for at least one severe COVID-19 outcome.
Cancer
Cerebrovascular disease
Chronic kidney disease*
Chronic lung diseases limited to:
Interstitial lung disease
Pulmonary embolism
Pulmonary hypertension
Bronchiectasis
COPD (chronic obstructive pulmonary disease)
Chronic liver diseases limited to:
Cirrhosis
Non-alcoholic fatty liver disease
Alcoholic liver disease
Autoimmune hepatitis
Cystic fibrosis
Diabetes mellitus, type 1 and type 2*
Disabilities
Attention-Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD)
Cerebral Palsy
Congenital Malformations (Birth Defects)
Limitations with self-care or activities of daily living
Intellectual and Developmental Disabilities
Learning Disabilities
Spinal Cord Injuries
(For the list of all conditions that were part of the review, see the module below)
Heart conditions (such as heart failure, coronary artery disease, or cardiomyopathies)
HIV (human immunodeficiency virus)
Mental health disorders limited to:
Mood disorders, including depression
Schizophrenia spectrum disorders
Neurologic conditions limited to dementia
Obesity (BMI ≥30 kg/m2)*
Primary Immunodeficiencies
Pregnancy and recent pregnancy
Physical inactivity
Smoking, current and former
Solid organ or hematopoietic cell transplantation
Tuberculosis
Use of corticosteroids or other immunosuppressive medications

how does adhd, learning disabilities, depression and other mental disorders give u severe covid?

Cause if you commit suicide and you happen to test positive for covid then you died from Covid.

[Skanky]

Here's the great killer covid..so infectious and deadly some people couldn't even get it after having it sprayed directly up their noses.

34 people intentionally infected by this great killer disease and not one died.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/artic ... nd=opinion

Jacob Hopkins, 24, tried hard not to get Covid-19 in the months leading up to March 2021, when, if he succeeded, he could be part of a unique experiment in which he was deliberately infected with the virus. Almost a year earlier, he had put his name on a list of volunteers. Months went by until, on Dec. 23, he finally heard back from someone associated with the experiment. He ended up being the very first volunteer given the infection — patient 1.

As he described it to me, he took a cab to a hospital in London, wearing a mask so he would be sure not to catch Covid at the last minute. He arrived on a Friday, went through a battery of tests over two days, and on Monday, five health-care workers came in wearing full PPE, “like something out of the movie ‘Contagion,’” pulling in a tank of solution containing SARS-CoV-2.


They had him lie at the edge of the bed with his head back and squirted the infectious solution up his nose. He was one of 34 volunteers.

This kind of experiment is called a “challenge” trial. Thanks to Hopkins and the other volunteers, researchers learned some fascinating details about viral loads, symptoms and incubation times. A paper on the findings was published in Nature on March 31 of this year.

I’d written about challenge trials in May 2020, and was so compelled by the idea that I put my name on a list of volunteers that scientists could call on if they organized such a trial. I thought I was a good candidate because I had no conditions that would make me unusually vulnerable to Covid-19. Because of the nature of my work, I could call on the world’s top experts to advise me about safety and scientific value of any trial I might enter.


At the time, nobody knew how long it would take to get vaccines tested and approved. Challenge trials have been used to study malaria and influenza and looked like a possible shortcut to speed up arrival of a Covid-19 vaccine. For me, the experience would have led to a series of great stories. Journalists do far more dangerous things for work.

But events took a surprising turn. Standard vaccine trials progressed with record speed and the first vaccine candidates looked impressively effective. By the end of 2021, vaccines were already being offered to health-care workers in some places. I’d assumed any challenge trials would have been called off.

But the challenge trial Hopkins took part in did go forward. “We started with the lowest dose we can reliably produce,” said Christopher Chiu, a researcher at Imperial College London, who headed the experiment. If nobody got infected they’d step up the dose, slightly, he said, but on the first try, they got slightly past 50% — infecting 18 of 34 volunteers.

Chiu said they are only beginning to learn from the data they’ve accumulated. Two of the 18 infected had no symptoms at all, and the rest had mild or moderate symptoms — mostly sore throats and runny noses.

One of the first big surprises was how short the incubation period was, Chiu told me. It was only two days before the volunteers who got infected tested positive on PCR tests and not much longer to register a positive on rapid tests. Those who got symptoms noticed them between two and four days after exposure.

Another surprise was that the amount of virus people produced didn’t reflect the severity of their symptoms — those who produced a lot of virus sometimes had very mild or no symptoms and those who felt sicker sometimes produced less.

Since the date of exposure was known, the data were also useful for examining testing efficacy. While rapid tests didn’t always pick up the infection as early as the more sensitive PCR test, Chiu said it appeared to pick up most infections around the time that would likely coincide with peak transmissibility.

Chiu said everyone recovered quickly from all the symptoms except for changes in taste and smell. Those lasted for around six months in five of the volunteers, and one was still reporting a diminished sense of smell nine months after exposure.


Since this experiment took place, there’s been big increase in the awareness of the risk of lingering or even permanent symptoms, and several studies have hinted at the possibility of long-term changes in the heart and brain, though scientists are still trying to figure out if the subtle changes have real health significance.

Hopkins, who works for the charity group Citizens’ Advice, said he was well aware of the risk of long Covid, but thinks it was outweighed by the benefit of being part of the fight against the pandemic. He feels that the researchers fully informed him of the risks of infection and what would be involved in the experiment. He told me he is a risk-taker by nature, and recently went skydiving in Dubai. “I love adrenaline,” he said. And he’s deeply interested in medical research and has donated stem cells to people with blood cancers.

The course of his illness was brief. He was infected on a Monday, tested positive on Wednesday and started feeling chills on Thursday. He said he had flulike symptoms that were “pretty rough” but lasted only two days. Then, a few days after feeling better, while still in isolation and undergoing tests, he failed a smell test. Odors on the test that had been strong before his infection smelled like absolutely nothing. Then a few days later, his sense of smell returned.

Challenge trials give scientists a uniquely controlled data set, helping them gauge things like incubation time, accuracy of tests and long-term consequences of infection. They may reveal something about why some people get sick and others don’t. It’s the kind of controlled, experimental data that’s been so badly lacking in a pandemic that’s been ruled by educated guesses announced with inappropriate certainty.

The situation has changed a lot since this experiment was done. We’re contending with descendants of Omicron — BA.2, BA.2.121, BA.4 and BA.5, and almost everyone in the U.K. and the U.S. has some degree of immunity to some version of the virus. But the challenge trial data could nevertheless be extremely useful right now. Those data suggest that people who test positive may remain infectious far longer than the five days they’re supposed to quarantine. And for those potentially exposed, the data could be turned into better information on when to use home or PCR tests, and how much people can rely on the results. The challenge trial results also open up new scientific questions, including why some people resist getting infected at all — even when the virus is sprayed directly up their noses.

[redmanjp]

2 vaxxed 22 unvaxxed deaths in the past week. this could have been a total of only about 4 for the week if the other half of the population was vaxxed.

Yup we should put a gun to their heads and if they dont get vaccinated then we should shoot them.

That should solve the problem with all the unvaxxed deaths ... Ohh wait

ways, who say anything about forcing ppl to take it? all i doing is laying out facts. what they do with it is their choice.

[redmanjp]

[MaxPower]

Well done Trinis.

0 deaths.

To hell with 500+ cases. That is just due to continued braying and mild infections.

Jackasses

[paid_influencer]

case and point why the daily stats aren't useful. Today 0 deaths, ppl gonna run with that. tomorrow 5 deaths people gonna panic. Put the same information in a weekly format and it will be far more useful to the population. Is just a matter of time till Terry agrees with me.

[adnj]

case and point why the daily stats aren't useful. Today 0 deaths, ppl gonna run with that. tomorrow 5 deaths people gonna panic. Put the same information in a weekly format and it will be far more useful to the population. Is just a matter of time till Terry agrees with me.

*Case in point:

[redmanjp]

Well done Trinis.

0 deaths.

To hell with 500+ cases. That is just due to continued braying and mild infections.

Jackasses

we had 0 deaths a couple weeks ago, then 5 deaths 2 days ago. anything is possible.

[De Dragon]

All these morons talking about "it hard tuh geh Covid", re the same morons who bawling in hospital when dey get it