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Re: Coronavirus - COVID-19 - 114 cases, 8 deaths, 20 discharged in T&T

Postby paid_influencer » April 19th, 2020, 6:15 pm

Country_Bookie wrote:Whatever happened with getting private labs to help in doing testing?? Our number of total tests per million ppl is low compared to other countries.


I think they run out of people meeting their criteria to test.

The old criteria demanded people have travel history, or be a primary or secondary contact. Those persons also need to have symptoms (the official MoH line is that they cannot test asymptomatic people). Now that our borders have been closed almost a month, and the contact tracing chain has been completed, almost nobody meets that criteria CARPHA had set out.

The CMO mentioned he had to practically beg CARPHA to expand the criteria so he can do surveillance testing. The 'surveillance' testing where they test 10 RHA-chosen people a day, that would otherwise be outside the criteria.

So on any given day now, you'll see only those 10 new tests, plus any re-testing from patients being discharged.

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Postby Rovin » April 19th, 2020, 7:12 pm

MaxPower wrote:6b91019e-f6ac-4a0c-8f5d-28599e72aff0.jpg


didnt open this thread for d day but i now seeing this on tv - wow wtf

ppl still jammin up in d groceries but to d authorities it look like d hardwares have more ppl .... :roll:

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Postby Country_Bookie » April 19th, 2020, 7:12 pm

Thx for the update. 10 tests a day means essentially 110 before before end of April. That small sample size might not be enough to tell us if we have any community spread and therefore if to open back businesses etc in May.

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Postby adnj » April 19th, 2020, 7:32 pm

^^ You're probably correct.

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Re: Coronavirus - COVID-19 - 114 cases, 8 deaths, 20 discharged in T&T

Postby paid_influencer » April 19th, 2020, 8:09 pm

if one of those test positive, we in real shiet tho. :drinking:

The govt setting this up to look like a second wave was caused by "reckless and irresponsible" people, but it is definitely possible our testing is/was far too limited.

I mean 10 tests a day is fine, but surely we have the capacity to test more than that. The whole country is shut down for the sake of these tests - so why not test more?

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Postby dean_spleen09 » April 19th, 2020, 8:33 pm

any update on the private plane crew ?
how all of a sudden they scrape up 25,000 usd to charter a plane ?

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Postby shogun » April 19th, 2020, 10:16 pm

Country_Bookie wrote:Thx for the update. 10 tests a day means essentially 110 before before end of April. That small sample size might not be enough to tell us if we have any community spread and therefore if to open back businesses etc in May.


That exploratory testing sample definitely needs to be expanded.

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Re: Coronavirus - COVID-19 - 114 cases, 8 deaths, 20 discharged in T&T

Postby Gladiator » April 19th, 2020, 10:23 pm

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Country_Bookie wrote:Whatever happened with getting private labs to help in doing testing?? Our number of total tests per million ppl is low compared to other countries.


I think they run out of people meeting their criteria to test.

The old criteria demanded people have travel history, or be a primary or secondary contact. Those persons also need to have symptoms (the official MoH line is that they cannot test asymptomatic people). Now that our borders have been closed almost a month, and the contact tracing chain has been completed, almost nobody meets that criteria CARPHA had set out.

The CMO mentioned he had to practically beg CARPHA to expand the criteria so he can do surveillance testing. The 'surveillance' testing where they test 10 RHA-chosen people a day, that would otherwise be outside the criteria.

So on any given day now, you'll see only those 10 new tests, plus any re-testing from patients being discharged.


That was BS from the start... is more like they "wont" test asymptomatic people. I have friends in the US tested positive with no symptoms due to contact tracing because someone in their household was sick. Up till now Ian fuken Alleyne has no mudda cornt symptoms but he tested positive. Is only so much BS we can swallow... maybe PNM people have cobo stomach to swallow more.

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Postby The_Honourable » April 20th, 2020, 3:00 am

5 questions WHO must answer

The World Health Organisation is facing serious accusations. It has been accused of being too 'China-centric'. Health experts say the WHO response has been slow.


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Postby VII » April 20th, 2020, 3:21 am

Just sayin..

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Postby adnj » April 20th, 2020, 3:24 am

paid_influencer wrote:if one of those test positive, we in real shiet tho. :drinking:

The govt setting this up to look like a second wave was caused by "reckless and irresponsible" people, but it is definitely possible our testing is/was far too limited.

I mean 10 tests a day is fine, but surely we have the capacity to test more than that. The whole country is shut down for the sake of these tests - so why not test more?
If Trinidad were to follow South Korea's example, there would be 700 people tested per day.

In a report due to be published today regarding lifting stay at home measures in the US, daily testing of at least 1% and up to about 5% of a country's population is identified as crucial to successfully lifting stay at home orders.

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"What people need to recognize is that a massively scaled-up testing, tracing and supported isolation system is the alternative to national quarantine," Allen said. "We all had to learn PPE [Personal Protective Equipment] and we all had to learn about flattening the curve ... now we have to learn about TTSI."

A medical professional collects a sample after administering a coronavirus test to a patient at a drive-thru coronavirus testing site, April 6, 2020 in Jericho, New York.

A medical professional collects a sample after administering a coronavirus test to a patient at a drive-thru coronavirus testing site, April 6, 2020 in Jericho, New York.Al Bello/Getty Images

20 million tests a day

Test producers will need to deliver 5 million tests per day by early June to safely open parts of the economy by late July, according to the report. To "fully re-mobilize the economy," the country will need to see testing grow to 20 million a day, the report suggests.

[URL]https://abcnews.go.com/US/road-map-recovery-report-20-million-coronavirus-tests/story?id=70230097
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Re: Coronavirus - COVID-19 - 114 cases, 8 deaths, 21 discharged in T&T

Postby Kenjo » April 20th, 2020, 5:38 am

Gladiator wrote:
paid_influencer wrote:
Country_Bookie wrote:Whatever happened with getting private labs to help in doing testing?? Our number of total tests per million ppl is low compared to other countries.


I think they run out of people meeting their criteria to test.

The old criteria demanded people have travel history, or be a primary or secondary contact. Those persons also need to have symptoms (the official MoH line is that they cannot test asymptomatic people). Now that our borders have been closed almost a month, and the contact tracing chain has been completed, almost nobody meets that criteria CARPHA had set out.

The CMO mentioned he had to practically beg CARPHA to expand the criteria so he can do surveillance testing. The 'surveillance' testing where they test 10 RHA-chosen people a day, that would otherwise be outside the criteria.

So on any given day now, you'll see only those 10 new tests, plus any re-testing from patients being discharged.


That was BS from the start... is more like they "wont" test asymptomatic people. I have friends in the US tested positive with no symptoms due to contact tracing because someone in their household was sick. Up till now Ian fuken Alleyne has no mudda cornt symptoms but he tested positive. Is only so much BS we can swallow... maybe PNM people have cobo stomach to swallow more.

Yeah Ian was coughing down the place on his show, I think you mean he isn’t symptomatic any more

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Re: Coronavirus - COVID-19 - 114 cases, 8 deaths, 21 discharged in T&T

Postby pugboy » April 20th, 2020, 6:20 am

it is fair to say the average person will be apprehensive to be tested and end up locked up in caura/couva
the story with the asthma girl who got locked up and anand filing a lawsuit is scary if true

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Postby sMASH » April 20th, 2020, 8:33 am

MaxPower wrote:6b91019e-f6ac-4a0c-8f5d-28599e72aff0.jpg


sooo, now ur forcing allll the people to go the hardwares at practically the same times????

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Postby screwbash » April 20th, 2020, 8:34 am

no new cases in 5/6 days den y the increase restrictions. y not ease the restrictions with the doubles men at least. i getting a serious doubles tabanka.

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Postby sMASH » April 20th, 2020, 8:35 am

screwbash wrote:no new cases in 5/6 days den y the increase restrictions. y not ease the restrictions with the doubles men at least. i getting a serious doubles tabanka.

:wiggle: :wiggle:

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Postby hydroep » April 20th, 2020, 8:43 am

Carnival next year will be "looked at as it is a matter of life and death". Well ah mean, by then elections supposed to be over so...

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Culture Minister: Carnival 2021 will not be the same as 2020
Melissa Doughty

MINISTER of Community Development, Culture and the Arts Dr Nyan Gadbsy-Dolly is sure that Carnival 2021 is not going to be the same as the Carnival held at the end of February this year.

Gasby-Dolly in a phone interview with Newsday said the ministry was looking at what happens over the next two to three months.

Around the world, festivals, major events and Carnivals have been cancelled with Barbados’ Crop Over being the latest. Official word of the cancellation was issued on Sunday.

“Well the festival industry around the world right now is just reeling. A lot of discussions are going on around that, ‘How are festivals to proceed,’” she said.

Gadsby-Dolly added that, by nature, a festival involves a crowd and that is part of what makes the festival enjoyable.

“For our Carnival, one of the things that will really make a difference is if a vaccine is found and how soon that happens.”

Even when the vaccine is found, considerations of when it is found, if people feel comfortable with the success of the vaccine and whether they want to take it, need to be looked at.

In general, any festival, including Carnival, will have to take into account if tourists are going to be travelling and how borders are going to be open.

She said some fetes in TT have dedicated foreign audiences and chartered flights – a development which took place over the years and which promoters worked hard to build. With the pandemic, it is uncertain as to what would happen with people flying into different countries.

She said a lot of foreigners patronised a lot of fetes and private events and asked: "Will those events be able to take place in 2021? And without those events, what would a Carnival look like?"

The minister does not think music production is going to be much of a problem. The issue will be: how much does Carnival depend on the foreigners and what would that shape our Carnival to be?

She added that because the situation was so fluid no firm decisions had been taken.

“We are looking at what is happening worldwide. We are looking at who is planning to reopen. It is so dynamic we are keeping all of the options open, looking at what is happening but we have not made any decisions as yet as to how we proceed.”

She added there was a cut-off time for a decision on what should be done for the next Carnival. She said the festival was going to be even more critical for the private mas bands and so on.

“They are going to have a much more accelerated timeline as to whether they are bringing a band or not... having the fete, not having the fete...because there are preparations to be made.”

She said for Government events had more leeway.

She said nothing had been finalised yet and all of the discussions were on the table. She said the ministry was looking at how things progressed with the covid19 pandemic to make firm decisions in terms of TT Carnival.

She said it would really have to be looked at as it is a matter of life and death.


https://newsday.co.tt/2020/04/19/culture-minister-carnival-2021-will-not-be-the-same-as-2020/

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Postby Dizzy28 » April 20th, 2020, 8:49 am

screwbash wrote:no new cases in 5/6 days den y the increase restrictions. y not ease the restrictions with the doubles men at least. i getting a serious doubles tabanka.


Sheit Fams...........that's all you had to say.

Would tell Rowley for you!!

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Postby paid_influencer » April 20th, 2020, 8:54 am

sMASH wrote:sooo, now ur forcing allll the people to go the hardwares at practically the same times????


The decision was made by the Minister of Health, in consultation with the Prime Minister and Minister of National Security. The CMO doh want to be associated that dotishness.

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Postby Musical Doc » April 20th, 2020, 9:32 am

I heard from an inside source that there is a shortage of swabs to take samples to do testing. So they are using the remaining swabs to take samples from warded patients only for re-tests until they get a new shipment of swabs. If they not testing any new cases that come in then the covid positive figures not going to go up smh

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Postby MaxPower » April 20th, 2020, 9:33 am

Carnival should have been cancelled so long ago until the population shows an extent of responsibility.

Covid19 is clear and present proof.

Do not feel the because the numbers appear to be good that this was due to everyone “doing their part”, and the people “came together” to fight and cooperated and all those nancy stories.

Trinidadians got lucky.

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Postby fokhan_96 » April 20th, 2020, 9:38 am

These are the same people that does say the public health system is "world class" yet they go abroad for medical treatment when required. Not that i wishing anyone to get covid, but it would be interesting to see what would happen if a government minister or a member of the 1% gets covid. Then you would see they saying it's ok to quarantine home for mild cases, and private medical institutions would now get permission to treat covid patients.
pugboy wrote:it is fair to say the average person will be apprehensive to be tested and end up locked up in caura/couva
the story with the asthma girl who got locked up and anand filing a lawsuit is scary if true

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Postby shake d livin wake d dead » April 20th, 2020, 9:43 am

Musical Doc wrote:I heard from an inside source that there is a shortage of swabs to take samples to do testing. So they are using the remaining swabs to take samples from warded patients only for re-tests until they get a new shipment of swabs. If they not testing any new cases that come in then the covid positive figures not going to go up smh


Swabs is one thing. I know for a fact that doctors are resuing PPE despite the MOH saying this is not the case

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Postby 88sins » April 20th, 2020, 9:51 am

MaxPower wrote:Carnival should have been cancelled so long ago until the population shows an extent of responsibility.

Covid19 is clear and present proof.

Do not feel the because the numbers appear to be good that this was due to everyone “doing their part”, and the people “came together” to fight and cooperated and all those nancy stories.

Trinidadians got lucky.


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Postby paid_influencer » April 20th, 2020, 10:09 am

COVID19

NO CURE

NO VACCINE

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Postby Coppershot » April 20th, 2020, 10:19 am

Long Article but very detailed. Scientific research papers links in the article. Additional info-graphs/ images on site as well.
https://nutritionfacts.org/2020/04/16/takeaways-from-my-webinar-on-covid-19/

Information to long to post. Headlines are:

FROM THE BEGINNING
    The Emergence of MERS
    The Emergence of SARS
    The Emergence of COVID-19
    Coronaviruses Infect Pigs Right Off the Bat
    COVID-19 May Not Have Been the First Coronavirus Pandemic

PUMPING THE BRAKES
    Slowing an Outbreak
    Slowing a Pandemic

TREATING AND AVOIDING COVID-19
    The Clinical Course of COVID-19
    How to Treat COVID-19
    How to Avoid COVID-19
    How to Inactivate COVID-19
    DIY Hand Sanitizer
    What If You Come Down with COVID-19?
    HOW COVID-19 ENDS
    PREVENTING FUTURE PANDEMICS: Having Our Meat and Eating It Too

FINAL THOUGHTS
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Re: Coronavirus - COVID-19 - 114 cases, 8 deaths, 21 discharged in T&T

Postby screwbash » April 20th, 2020, 10:19 am

shake d livin wake d dead wrote:
Musical Doc wrote:I heard from an inside source that there is a shortage of swabs to take samples to do testing. So they are using the remaining swabs to take samples from warded patients only for re-tests until they get a new shipment of swabs. If they not testing any new cases that come in then the covid positive figures not going to go up smh


Swabs is one thing. I know for a fact that doctors are resuing PPE despite the MOH saying this is not the case

they using the swabs to infect allyuh. stay away from it.

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Re: Coronavirus - COVID-19 - 114 cases, 8 deaths, 21 discharged in T&T

Postby Chimera » April 20th, 2020, 10:21 am

Mt hope eh have any n95 atleast a week now. Surgical masks finish since friday. Ppl real stealing stuff to go home with or to sell.
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:
Musical Doc wrote:I heard from an inside source that there is a shortage of swabs to take samples to do testing. So they are using the remaining swabs to take samples from warded patients only for re-tests until they get a new shipment of swabs. If they not testing any new cases that come in then the covid positive figures not going to go up smh


Swabs is one thing. I know for a fact that doctors are resuing PPE despite the MOH saying this is not the case

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Re: Coronavirus - COVID-19 - 114 cases, 8 deaths, 21 discharged in T&T

Postby paid_influencer » April 20th, 2020, 11:00 am

the surveillance testing apparently still in the training phase. They expected to 'ramp up' next week monday when they get 1,750 more tests.

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