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Re: All Things US Politics Related: Trump indicted.

Postby adnj » August 21st, 2023, 8:35 am

CNN Data Analyst: Polls Indicate Trump Is Now Stronger Politically Than At Any Point During 2020 Campaign



HARRY ENTEN, CNN: The GOP base has made up its mind when it comes to these indictments. They don't believe that Trump should have been charged with a crime. The vast majority believe that. And the fact is, it just does not seem like there's any changing of their minds on any of this, no matter how many indictments there are.
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The vast majority of the Republicans are not in that Never-Trump camp. Look at the horse race numbers compared to where they were six months ago, and what do you see? In fact, you see Trump higher than he was back in February, six months ago. 53% in a recent FOX News poll. There has been movement downward for one candidate, Ron DeSantis! From 28% to 16%. There is one other candidate... Ramaswamy, who wasn't even asked in the February poll, he's at 11% now. He's actually closing in on DeSantis for second place.

But at this point, it is Donald Trump against the field. He has the majority of Republicans in his camp and it doesn’t seem like there's any stopping him at this particular point.
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You might think because the majority of Americans do think Trump did something illegal, at least on one of those indictments, that it might be impacting his general election standing. But the fact is, this is from Quinnipiac University, it was a two-point race, now it is a one-point race.

There are a lot of Democrats who simply can't believe Donald Trump could be elected president again. The polling indicates he is in fact in a stronger position at this point than he was during the entire 2020 campaign.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video ... paign.html

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Re: All Things US Politics Related: Trump indicted.

Postby SuperiorMan » August 21st, 2023, 9:00 am

Have a feeling Trump is gonna choose either Vivek Ramaswamy or Tim Scott has his running mate.

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Re: All Things US Politics Related: Trump indicted.

Postby The_Honourable » August 21st, 2023, 9:30 am

Trump so strong he doesn't even need to debate his republican rivals.

Expect more pressure from the dem side to stop him at all costs.

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Re: All Things US Politics Related: Trump indicted.

Postby AbstractPoetic » August 21st, 2023, 10:53 am

The more they (Dems and their media) prod Trump, the more angry Americans will become. 2024 election results may come as a total surprise.

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Re: All Things US Politics Related: Trump indicted.

Postby adnj » August 21st, 2023, 11:44 am

AbstractPoetic wrote:The more they (Dems and their media) prod Trump, the more angry Americans will become. 2024 election results may come as a total surprise.


But aren't all of the "Dems and their media," also "Americans?"

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Re: All Things US Politics Related: Trump indicted.

Postby SuperiorMan » August 21st, 2023, 3:10 pm

Latest polls on RCP showing a tie between Biden and Trump right now. Interesting.

Also Ramaswamy polling as high as DeSantis now too on Emerson poll. If Trump wants to take this choose either Ramaswamy or Tim Scott.

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Re: All Things US Politics Related: Trump indicted.

Postby shogun » August 21st, 2023, 5:15 pm



Didn't take the MAGA base long to find a reason to reject him. :lol:

Local MAGA will forever not get it.


Fellas, why Trump afraid of Christie so?

Please tell commander/lord and savior Trump to debate, this is not a good look.

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Re: All Things US Politics Related: Trump indicted.

Postby adnj » August 21st, 2023, 5:23 pm

SuperiorMan wrote:Latest polls on RCP showing a tie between Biden and Trump right now. Interesting.

Also Ramaswamy polling as high as DeSantis now too on Emerson poll. If Trump wants to take this choose either Ramaswamy or Tim Scott.
Are you certain?

Gavin Newsom has the same odds as Desantis, Ramaswamy and Scott - even though Newsom isn't running.

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Re: All Things US Politics Related: Trump indicted.

Postby SuperiorMan » August 21st, 2023, 6:20 pm

adnj wrote:
SuperiorMan wrote:Latest polls on RCP showing a tie between Biden and Trump right now. Interesting.

Also Ramaswamy polling as high as DeSantis now too on Emerson poll. If Trump wants to take this choose either Ramaswamy or Tim Scott.
Are you certain?

Gavin Newsom has the same odds as Desantis, Ramaswamy and Scott - even though Newsom isn't running.

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Here you go dolt,

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

General Election: Trump vs. Biden Emerson Biden 44, Trump 44 Tie

Have fun.

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Re: All Things US Politics Related: Trump indicted.

Postby adnj » August 21st, 2023, 6:44 pm

SuperiorMan wrote:
adnj wrote:
SuperiorMan wrote:Latest polls on RCP showing a tie between Biden and Trump right now. Interesting.

Also Ramaswamy polling as high as DeSantis now too on Emerson poll. If Trump wants to take this choose either Ramaswamy or Tim Scott.
Are you certain?

Gavin Newsom has the same odds as Desantis, Ramaswamy and Scott - even though Newsom isn't running.

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Here you go dolt,

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

General Election: Trump vs. Biden Emerson Biden 44, Trump 44 Tie

Have fun.


Wrong link, by the way.

This is what you wanted:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epoll ... s_general/

Real Clear Politics is a poll aggregator. What you directly addressed is the Emerson Poll. That's not news. A hypothetical Trump v. Biden election outcome has vacillated within the margin of uncertainty for weeks.

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Re: All Things US Politics Related: Trump indicted.

Postby SuperiorMan » August 21st, 2023, 6:47 pm

adnj wrote:
SuperiorMan wrote:
adnj wrote:
SuperiorMan wrote:Latest polls on RCP showing a tie between Biden and Trump right now. Interesting.

Also Ramaswamy polling as high as DeSantis now too on Emerson poll. If Trump wants to take this choose either Ramaswamy or Tim Scott.
Are you certain?

Gavin Newsom has the same odds as Desantis, Ramaswamy and Scott - even though Newsom isn't running.

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Here you go dolt,

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

General Election: Trump vs. Biden Emerson Biden 44, Trump 44 Tie

Have fun.


Wrong link, by the way.

This is what you wanted:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epoll ... s_general/

Real Clear Politics is a poll aggregator. What you directly addressed is the Emerson Poll. That's not news. A hypothetical Trump v. Biden election outcome has vacillated within the margin of uncertainty for weeks.



Wrong. I stated the latest polls on RCP. Emerson was the latest General Election poll on RCP. Stop being pedantic. Also you linked betting average before. LOL. :D

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Re: All Things US Politics Related: Trump indicted.

Postby adnj » August 21st, 2023, 6:51 pm

SuperiorMan wrote:
adnj wrote:
SuperiorMan wrote:
adnj wrote:
SuperiorMan wrote:Latest polls on RCP showing a tie between Biden and Trump right now. Interesting.

Also Ramaswamy polling as high as DeSantis now too on Emerson poll. If Trump wants to take this choose either Ramaswamy or Tim Scott.
Are you certain?

Gavin Newsom has the same odds as Desantis, Ramaswamy and Scott - even though Newsom isn't running.

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Here you go dolt,

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

General Election: Trump vs. Biden Emerson Biden 44, Trump 44 Tie

Have fun.


Wrong link, by the way.

This is what you wanted:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epoll ... s_general/

Real Clear Politics is a poll aggregator. What you directly addressed is the Emerson Poll. That's not news. A hypothetical Trump v. Biden election outcome has vacillated within the margin of uncertainty for weeks.



Wrong. I stated the latest polls on RCP. Emerson was the latest General Election poll on RCP. Stop being pedantic. Also you linked betting average before. LOL. :D
The Real Clear Politics betting average is funny? *Hmmph

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Re: All Things US Politics Related: Trump indicted.

Postby MaxPower » August 21st, 2023, 8:33 pm

A Commander should never be underestimated…

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Re: All Things US Politics Related: Trump indicted.

Postby Dohplaydat » August 22nd, 2023, 6:48 am

SuperiorMan wrote:Have a feeling Trump is gonna choose either Vivek Ramaswamy or Tim Scott has his running mate.


Trump and Vivek will destroy Biden and Kamala (if it's her) in debates, public speaking and charisma.

Couldn't pick a better pair for the republicans

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Re: All Things US Politics Related: Trump indicted.

Postby SuperiorMan » August 22nd, 2023, 11:39 am

Vivek Ramaswamy
@VivekGRamaswamy
TRUTH.

1. God is real.
2. There are two genders.
3. Human flourishing requires fossil fuels.
4. Reverse racism is racism.
5. An open border is no border.
6. Parents determine the education of their children.
7. The nuclear family is the greatest form of governance known to mankind.
8. Capitalism lifts people up from poverty.
9. There are three branches of the U.S. government, not four.
10. The U.S. Constitution is the strongest guarantor of freedoms in history.

https://twitter.com/VivekGRamaswamy/sta ... 4490060817

Take win.

Trump - Ramaswamy ticket unbeatable.

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Re: All Things US Politics Related: Trump indicted.

Postby redmanjp » August 22nd, 2023, 12:32 pm

adnj wrote:
AbstractPoetic wrote:The more they (Dems and their media) prod Trump, the more angry Americans will become. 2024 election results may come as a total surprise.


But aren't all of the "Dems and their media," also "Americans?"


Quite a few of them are America hating Marxists who want to see it burn.

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Re: All Things US Politics Related: Trump indicted.

Postby adnj » August 22nd, 2023, 1:34 pm

redmanjp wrote:
adnj wrote:
AbstractPoetic wrote:The more they (Dems and their media) prod Trump, the more angry Americans will become. 2024 election results may come as a total surprise.


But aren't all of the "Dems and their media," also "Americans?"


Quite a few of them are America hating Marxists who want to see it burn.
Just like Trinidad, huh?

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Re: All Things US Politics Related: Trump indicted.

Postby Dohplaydat » August 22nd, 2023, 1:44 pm

SuperiorMan wrote:Vivek Ramaswamy
@VivekGRamaswamy
TRUTH.

1. God is real.
2. There are two genders.
3. Human flourishing requires fossil fuels.
4. Reverse racism is racism.
5. An open border is no border.
6. Parents determine the education of their children.
7. The nuclear family is the greatest form of governance known to mankind.
8. Capitalism lifts people up from poverty.
9. There are three branches of the U.S. government, not four.
10. The U.S. Constitution is the strongest guarantor of freedoms in history.

https://twitter.com/VivekGRamaswamy/sta ... 4490060817

Take win.

Trump - Ramaswamy ticket unbeatable.


Watch tomorrow's primary debate, Trump won't be there and Vivek sole purpose is to mash up everyone else, especially desantis.

Trump will surge ahead by default and Vivek will eventually get the VP ticket.

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Re: All Things US Politics Related: Trump indicted.

Postby SuperiorMan » August 22nd, 2023, 2:08 pm

Dohplaydat wrote:
SuperiorMan wrote:Vivek Ramaswamy
@VivekGRamaswamy
TRUTH.

1. God is real.
2. There are two genders.
3. Human flourishing requires fossil fuels.
4. Reverse racism is racism.
5. An open border is no border.
6. Parents determine the education of their children.
7. The nuclear family is the greatest form of governance known to mankind.
8. Capitalism lifts people up from poverty.
9. There are three branches of the U.S. government, not four.
10. The U.S. Constitution is the strongest guarantor of freedoms in history.

https://twitter.com/VivekGRamaswamy/sta ... 4490060817

Take win.

Trump - Ramaswamy ticket unbeatable.


Watch tomorrow's primary debate, Trump won't be there and Vivek sole purpose is to mash up everyone else, especially desantis.

Trump will surge ahead by default and Vivek will eventually get the VP ticket.


The only thing is he has said before that he won't take VP if offered to him....he only wants to be President.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4 ... overnment/

Hoping is just talk.

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Re: All Things US Politics Related: Trump indicted.

Postby Dohplaydat » August 22nd, 2023, 3:56 pm

SuperiorMan wrote:
Dohplaydat wrote:
SuperiorMan wrote:Vivek Ramaswamy
@VivekGRamaswamy
TRUTH.

1. God is real.
2. There are two genders.
3. Human flourishing requires fossil fuels.
4. Reverse racism is racism.
5. An open border is no border.
6. Parents determine the education of their children.
7. The nuclear family is the greatest form of governance known to mankind.
8. Capitalism lifts people up from poverty.
9. There are three branches of the U.S. government, not four.
10. The U.S. Constitution is the strongest guarantor of freedoms in history.

https://twitter.com/VivekGRamaswamy/sta ... 4490060817

Take win.

Trump - Ramaswamy ticket unbeatable.


Watch tomorrow's primary debate, Trump won't be there and Vivek sole purpose is to mash up everyone else, especially desantis.

Trump will surge ahead by default and Vivek will eventually get the VP ticket.


The only thing is he has said before that he won't take VP if offered to him....he only wants to be President.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4 ... overnment/

Hoping is just talk.


Obviously, what canidate actually says that in a presidential runup like this, especially when they trying to raise funds and sheit.

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Re: All Things US Politics Related: Trump indicted.

Postby adnj » August 22nd, 2023, 7:29 pm

A key witness in the Trump classified docs case changed his testimony after switching lawyers, special counsel says

The revised testimony led to last month's superseding indictment against Trump and his two co-defendants

A key witness against former President Donald Trump and his two co-defendants in the Mar-a-Lago documents case recanted previous false testimony and provided new information implicating the defendants after switching lawyers, according to a new court filing by special counsel Jack Smith’s office.

Yuscil Taveras, the director of information technology at Mar-a-Lago, changed his testimony regarding efforts to delete security camera footage at Trump’s Florida club in July after switching from a lawyer paid for by Trump’s Save America PAC to a public defender, according to the filing.

The revised testimony led to last month's superseding indictment against Trump and his two co-defendants.

Taveras decided to change lawyers after learning he was being investigated for making false statements during his previous grand jury testimony in Washington, D.C., according to Tuesday's court filing.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/nati ... 154/?amp=1

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Re: All Things US Politics Related: Trump indicted.

Postby shogun » August 22nd, 2023, 8:55 pm

^Those Dems and their media again. lol

Meadows told special counsel he could not recall Trump ever declassifying Mar-a-Lago docs

Appearing to contradict former President Donald Trump's primary public defense in the classified documents case, former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows has told special counsel Jack Smith's investigators that he could not recall Trump ever ordering, or even discussing, declassifying broad sets of classified materials before leaving the White House, nor was he aware of any "standing order" from Trump authorizing the automatic declassification of materials taken out of the Oval Office, sources familiar with the matter tell ABC News.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/meadows-told- ... =102396159


Majority of the testimony and evidence coming from Trump staff, cabinet members and associates and a number of judges that set Don le Con on this path being appointed by him, yet they keep braying about "leftist media." lol Typical disingenuous and dishonest right-wing talking point. Kool Aid flowing like water in Trumpville.

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Re: All Things US Politics Related: Trump indicted.

Postby adnj » August 23rd, 2023, 6:16 am

The return of the political Fact Check.

Fact check: Audio debunks Vivek Ramaswamy’s false claim that he was misquoted about 9/11

Washington CNN — Newly released audio disproves Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy’s claim on CNN that he was misquoted by The Atlantic about the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001.

Ramaswamy’s inaccurate insistence that he was misquoted about 9/11 in the magazine’s Monday article came during a contentious on-air exchange that night with Kaitlan Collins, anchor of CNN’s “The Source.”

Collins told Ramaswamy, “Speaking of another comment that you’ve made that is getting attention today, about 9/11 – a report in The Atlantic, that you gave an interview to. You said, quote, ‘I think it is legitimate to say how many police, how many federal agents, were on the planes that hit the Twin Towers. Maybe the answer is zero. It probably is zero for all I know, right? I have no reason to think it was anything other than zero. But if we’re doing a comprehensive assessment of what happened on 9/11, we have a 9/11 commission, absolutely [that] should be an answer the public knows the answer to.’”

Collins said, “Explain to me what you meant there.”

Ramaswamy said what he actually said was that on January 6, 2021, the day the US Capitol was attacked by a pro-Trump mob, he believes there were “many federal agents in the field and we deserve to know who they are.” He explained that he also believes that the government lied about the extent of “Saudi Arabia’s involvement” in the 9/11 attacks.

Collins then asked, “But are you telling me that your quote is wrong here?”

Ramaswamy responded, “I am telling you the quote is wrong, actually.” ...

The recording shows Ramaswamy was wrong
The audio recording shows that the only Ramaswamy words The Atlantic did not include in the published quote about 9/11, the quote that Collins read back to Ramaswamy, was a stray five-word clause – “Like, I think we want…” – from a sentence Ramaswamy started and then abandoned.

Journalists’ practices vary about whether to include such stray remarks or to leave them out for clarity. Regardless, in this case, the clause is irrelevant to the substance of the quote.

Here is the Ramaswamy quote as CNN transcribed it from the audio The Atlantic released Tuesday. The words in bold appeared in the Monday article that Ramaswamy claimed had misquoted him.

“I think it is legitimate to say how many police, how many federal agents, were on the planes that hit the Twin Towers. Like, I think we want…Maybe the answer is zero. It probably is zero for all I know, right? I have no reason to think it was anything other than zero. But if we’re doing a comprehensive assessment of what happened on 9/11, we have a 9/11 commission, absolutely that should be an answer the public knows the answer to.”

That is simply not a misquote. ...

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/08/22/poli ... index.html

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Re: All Things US Politics Related: Trump indicted.

Postby The_Honourable » August 23rd, 2023, 9:49 am

Interesting theory


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Re: All Things US Politics Related: Trump indicted.

Postby Dohplaydat » August 23rd, 2023, 4:47 pm

adnj wrote:The return of the political Fact Check.

Fact check: Audio debunks Vivek Ramaswamy’s false claim that he was misquoted about 9/11

Washington CNN — Newly released audio disproves Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy’s claim on CNN that he was misquoted by The Atlantic about the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001.

Ramaswamy’s inaccurate insistence that he was misquoted about 9/11 in the magazine’s Monday article came during a contentious on-air exchange that night with Kaitlan Collins, anchor of CNN’s “The Source.”

Collins told Ramaswamy, “Speaking of another comment that you’ve made that is getting attention today, about 9/11 – a report in The Atlantic, that you gave an interview to. You said, quote, ‘I think it is legitimate to say how many police, how many federal agents, were on the planes that hit the Twin Towers. Maybe the answer is zero. It probably is zero for all I know, right? I have no reason to think it was anything other than zero. But if we’re doing a comprehensive assessment of what happened on 9/11, we have a 9/11 commission, absolutely [that] should be an answer the public knows the answer to.’”

Collins said, “Explain to me what you meant there.”

Ramaswamy said what he actually said was that on January 6, 2021, the day the US Capitol was attacked by a pro-Trump mob, he believes there were “many federal agents in the field and we deserve to know who they are.” He explained that he also believes that the government lied about the extent of “Saudi Arabia’s involvement” in the 9/11 attacks.

Collins then asked, “But are you telling me that your quote is wrong here?”

Ramaswamy responded, “I am telling you the quote is wrong, actually.” ...

The recording shows Ramaswamy was wrong
The audio recording shows that the only Ramaswamy words The Atlantic did not include in the published quote about 9/11, the quote that Collins read back to Ramaswamy, was a stray five-word clause – “Like, I think we want…” – from a sentence Ramaswamy started and then abandoned.

Journalists’ practices vary about whether to include such stray remarks or to leave them out for clarity. Regardless, in this case, the clause is irrelevant to the substance of the quote.

Here is the Ramaswamy quote as CNN transcribed it from the audio The Atlantic released Tuesday. The words in bold appeared in the Monday article that Ramaswamy claimed had misquoted him.

“I think it is legitimate to say how many police, how many federal agents, were on the planes that hit the Twin Towers. Like, I think we want…Maybe the answer is zero. It probably is zero for all I know, right? I have no reason to think it was anything other than zero. But if we’re doing a comprehensive assessment of what happened on 9/11, we have a 9/11 commission, absolutely that should be an answer the public knows the answer to.”

That is simply not a misquote. ...

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/08/22/poli ... index.html


This is a not even a real issue lol. Is this the best they can attack him with?

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Re: All Things US Politics Related: Trump indicted.

Postby 16 cycles » August 23rd, 2023, 6:18 pm

Bookies have odds on actual weigh in for tomorrow's surrender and processing / mug shot.

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Re: All Things US Politics Related: Trump indicted.

Postby adnj » August 23rd, 2023, 7:16 pm

Dohplaydat wrote:
adnj wrote:The return of the political Fact Check.

Fact check: Audio debunks Vivek Ramaswamy’s false claim that he was misquoted about 9/11

Washington CNN — Newly released audio disproves Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy’s claim on CNN that he was misquoted by The Atlantic about the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001.

Ramaswamy’s inaccurate insistence that he was misquoted about 9/11 in the magazine’s Monday article came during a contentious on-air exchange that night with Kaitlan Collins, anchor of CNN’s “The Source.”

Collins told Ramaswamy, “Speaking of another comment that you’ve made that is getting attention today, about 9/11 – a report in The Atlantic, that you gave an interview to. You said, quote, ‘I think it is legitimate to say how many police, how many federal agents, were on the planes that hit the Twin Towers. Maybe the answer is zero. It probably is zero for all I know, right? I have no reason to think it was anything other than zero. But if we’re doing a comprehensive assessment of what happened on 9/11, we have a 9/11 commission, absolutely [that] should be an answer the public knows the answer to.’”

Collins said, “Explain to me what you meant there.”

Ramaswamy said what he actually said was that on January 6, 2021, the day the US Capitol was attacked by a pro-Trump mob, he believes there were “many federal agents in the field and we deserve to know who they are.” He explained that he also believes that the government lied about the extent of “Saudi Arabia’s involvement” in the 9/11 attacks.

Collins then asked, “But are you telling me that your quote is wrong here?”

Ramaswamy responded, “I am telling you the quote is wrong, actually.” ...

The recording shows Ramaswamy was wrong
The audio recording shows that the only Ramaswamy words The Atlantic did not include in the published quote about 9/11, the quote that Collins read back to Ramaswamy, was a stray five-word clause – “Like, I think we want…” – from a sentence Ramaswamy started and then abandoned.

Journalists’ practices vary about whether to include such stray remarks or to leave them out for clarity. Regardless, in this case, the clause is irrelevant to the substance of the quote.

Here is the Ramaswamy quote as CNN transcribed it from the audio The Atlantic released Tuesday. The words in bold appeared in the Monday article that Ramaswamy claimed had misquoted him.

“I think it is legitimate to say how many police, how many federal agents, were on the planes that hit the Twin Towers. Like, I think we want…Maybe the answer is zero. It probably is zero for all I know, right? I have no reason to think it was anything other than zero. But if we’re doing a comprehensive assessment of what happened on 9/11, we have a 9/11 commission, absolutely that should be an answer the public knows the answer to.”

That is simply not a misquote. ...

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/08/22/poli ... index.html


This is a not even a real issue lol. Is this the best they can attack him with?
Maybe you're right.

A Presidential candidate that cannot remember what he said on the record.

A Presidential candidate that cannot remember what he said, and then vehemently denies his incorrect recollection.

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Re: All Things US Politics Related: Trump indicted.

Postby The_Honourable » August 24th, 2023, 1:25 am

"If former president Donald Trump is convicted in a court of law, would you still support him as your party choice?

7/8 hands went up... salty Christie then pulled his hand back mid way and shake it off.

Clearly Trump won the debate without being there :lol:

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Re: All Things US Politics Related: Trump indicted.

Postby SuperiorMan » August 24th, 2023, 5:59 am

Hail Trump!

How we Trump - Ramaswamy ticket looking?
Or Trump - Tim Scott?

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Re: All Things US Politics Related: Trump indicted.

Postby Dohplaydat » August 24th, 2023, 6:28 am

SuperiorMan wrote:Hail Trump!

How we Trump - Ramaswamy ticket looking?
Or Trump - Tim Scott?


Trump - Ramaswamy will be the ticket for sure.

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