.::The Official General Election 2015 Thread::.

[EmilioA]

Who tell alyuh that alyuh cell numbers private. They have some law somewhere saying a phone company cant sell your information ?

UNC ent hire them American consultants for style. This is how US parties canvass. Reference and cross reference to find the hidden voters that they missed.

PNM could learn a trick from them, they depending too much on they standard loyalists and traditional campaigning. It might come back to bite them in September.

[eliteauto]

it's European consultants btw

[hustla_ambition101]

Damn allyuh men memeory rel bad. Cold dialing going on since the early 90s (most likely even before that too) for elections.

It doh take much to look through a phone book (landline), make up random numbers (for mobiles) or find someones contact list etc (could be anybody you ever called or gave your number too). You think TSTT/Digi/Flow gone give out mobile numbers for elections. That is madness.

Private= UNLISTED.

[Morpheus]

I received a call from a female about 3 weeks ago asking me what suggestions I had for KPB in her next term. It was on my landline and she had info of family members of voting age... so the UNC has been cross referencing numbers and voting lists. It happened on a Sunday it was quite annoying.....i politely ended the conversation and hung up without answering any questions. I think that process would turn off a voter on the fence and embolden someone who was for the other side.

UNC calls to do research.

PNM sends out thugs to intimidate decent folk

LoL. Typical ZR troll post. The humour

[hustla_ambition101]

I received a call from a female about 3 weeks ago asking me what suggestions I had for KPB in her next term. It was on my landline and she had info of family members of voting age... so the UNC has been cross referencing numbers and voting lists. It happened on a Sunday it was quite annoying.....i politely ended the conversation and hung up without answering any questions. I think that process would turn off a voter on the fence and embolden someone who was for the other side.

UNC calls to do research.

PNM sends out thugs to intimidate decent folk

So then why is a known Jamaat soldier who was involved in the coup a member of Jairam seemungal entourage?

[RASC]

Power to reject the panel... These are the demands of the PM for the debate.

You have to be fuckingkidding me.

I done with this woman

[UML]

Wah bout the Debates Commission controversy?

Sabga, Father Harvey and other known pnm supporters in key positions

DC facilitating the date of the PNM over the PPG

A secret panel deciding on questions to be asked (why the secret is the panel from Balisier House?)

How are we to trust that the PNM is not given the questions in advance? Seeing the blatant bias in the DC

[rfari]

Wah bout the Debates Commission controversy?

Sabga, Father Harvey and other known pnm supporters in key positions

DC facilitating the date of the PNM over the PPG

A secret panel deciding on questions to be asked (why the secret is the panel from Balisier House?)

How are we to trust that the PNM is not given the questions in advance? Seeing the blatant bias in the DC

U think kamala demands reasonable? Yes or no

[desifemlove]

co-ordinate her wardrobe? nah...some TV6 news producer added that for kicks..

[UML]

Yes. She was given a date and accepted.

Why are they facilitating the PNM's demands?

Not sure what demands u may be referring to.

[Morpheus]

norowley.com!!!

That real sad. LoL

[rfari]

Yes. She was given a date and accepted.

Why are they facilitating the PNM's demands?

Ok. I dunno about the pnm demands. Let us know about them

[UML]

As far as I aware Kamla was given a letter stating the date for debate. She accepted.

PNM sent a letter by DC and agree on an August date.

DC tells Kamla July agreed and accepted date cancelled.

[rfari]

As far as I aware Kamla was given a letter stating the date for debate. She accepted.

PNM sent a letter by DC and agree on an August date.

DC tells Kamla July agreed and accepted date cancelled.

That's the mixup with the proposed date mixup? The article somewhere

[UML]

More importantly is the personalities of the DC and their biases.

Why the secrecy in the questions panel?

What prevents this questionable DC from releasing questions in advance to the PNM?

[rfari]

More importantly is the personalities of the DC and their biases.

Why the secracy in the questions panel?

What prevents this questionable DC from releasing questions in advance to the PNM?

What about the personalities of the DC make you feel uncomfortable?

What is to prevent the DC from releasing the questions to unc prior to the debate? It goes both ways.

[Redman]

Of course it easy to say yes...under 29 asinine non negotiable conditions and then blame everybody else.

Stupid.

[rfari]

Redman u have a link to the pm's demands?

[Redman]

Www.whatdeasskamlatinking.bomb

[EmilioA]

Wah bout the Debates Commission controversy?

Sabga, Father Harvey and other known pnm supporters in key positions

DC facilitating the date of the PNM over the PPG

A secret panel deciding on questions to be asked (why the secret is the panel from Balisier House?)

How are we to trust that the PNM is not given the questions in advance? Seeing the blatant bias in the DC

Victim mentality once again. Kamla is the PM , she supposed to be able to answer any question off the top of she head.

[UML]

Wah bout the Debates Commission controversy?

Sabga, Father Harvey and other known pnm supporters in key positions

DC facilitating the date of the PNM over the PPG

A secret panel deciding on questions to be asked (why the secret is the panel from Balisier House?)

How are we to trust that the PNM is not given the questions in advance? Seeing the blatant bias in the DC

Debate mistake, storm in tea-cup

By Andre Bagoo

Saturday, July 18 2015


THE TRINIDAD and Tobago Debates Commission (TTDC) yesterday confirmed it had issued a letter to Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar’s negotiating team stating that it was decided that a debate will take place on July 30, however this was done in “error”.

At the same time, the error was not made in representations by the Commission to the Opposition over the scheduling of the debate. 

“There was an error in the wording of the letter,” said the TTDC chairman Andrew Sabga yesterday at a press conference held at the Chamber of Industry and Commerce, Westmoorings. “The letter that went out to the People’s Partnership (PP) said we had decided on 30th July. In the letter that went out to the PNM, it said that it was proposed, which was the right wording. There were many different issues that still needed to be handled prior to confirming any date in July. In fact, there was no consensus on that date. There was an error of wording which may have been misleading.” At the same time, he said the matter was a “storm in a tea-cup”. 

Sabga did not say which officer had issued the letter or account for the discrepancy between the wording of the letters to the PP and the PNM. He said the error was only picked up by the Commission after the Prime Minister’s negotiating team went public with the date. He confirmed that the TTDC booked air-time for July 30 at CNMG, but said this was one of many provisional bookings. 

While it entertained talks for a July debate, the TTDC chairman said it was now reverting to its “original criteria” which would see a debate take place in August. He said the July debate would have been separate from an August debate. 

“We are going back to the original criteria that has been accepted by most of the participants,” Sabga said. “We are still hopeful that we will get all the players to the table. The door is not closed as far as we are concerned.” 

Sabga said the Prime Minister’s negotiator, attorney Larry Lalla, had proposed the Mondays of the month of July as possible dates and the latest Monday, July 27 was initially identified, but shifted to July 30 given that the date is the anniversary of the 1990 terrorist attack on the Parliament and the media. 

“We tried to secure consensus from the other side, who had already agreed to the August dates,” Sabga said. “It was very difficult to get us to get them to shift from those dates.” 

At the same time, Sabga chided Lalla for making public the communication from the TTDC in which it was stated that July 30 had been decided. 

“We realised that the error was made when Mr Lalla went public and announced the date, to our horror,” the chairman said. “In our discussion with all parties we have kindly asked them to kindly keep the negotiations that we are having with them out of the public eye until things are finalised and settled. How the July 30 date got derailed is because one party went public before it was decided.” 

Sabga continued, “Whether rightly or wrongly so, whether there was an indication or belief that it was decided rightly or not, the fact that it went public before it was secured created a lot of anxiety. We need to appreciate that the stakes are very high. This is a very heightened and heated election.” The members of the TTDC are: Sabga (chairman); Ronald Harford; Fr Clyde Harvey; Moonilal Lalchan; Kiran Maharaj; Angella Persad and Professor Rhoda Reddock. The project manager is Lorraine O’Connor. 

Lalla yesterday evening said all faith in the Commission was now lost. 

“Unfortunately, we have lost faith in the so-called Debates Commission,” he said in a media release. “Are they really so careless that they don’t double check the correspondence which they send to the representative of a political leader on such an important matter? If their explanation is true that they wrote to the me and stated that the 30th July date had been “decided” but wrote separately to the PNM and said the date was only “proposed” then it brings their impartiality into serious question.” 

Lalla further stated, “I regret their false claim that the notion of a 30th July debate originated with the People’s Partnership. The record in the public domain shows that such date originated with their email which stated a decision had been taken to hold a debate on that date.” 

The attorney further said, “I regret too their demonstrably false claim that in some way I broke an agreement of confidentiality. To so state is offensive and wrong. I gave no undertaking to keep the date confidential. In any event, if the date was meant to be kept from the public, Ms O’Connor’s email to me would have said so. It did not.” 

Sabga said the TTDC will not step aside and a debate will take place once two or more persons participate. 

Reddock said the estimated $1.5 million cost for the debate is in order to produce a “quality debate” and covers costs such as advertising, live TV production, venue rentals, air-time costs, communications, administration, secretariat and support staff costs. The proposed debate would see a secret panel of four choose questions. Questions sent by the public to the leaders would be shifted by this secret panel.
http://www.newsday.co.tt/news/0,214300.html



DC "storm in a tea cup comment" very similar to Rowley’s and highlights their PNM arrogance and bias!!!

[rfari]

http://Www.whatdeasskamlatinking.bomb

Gotdammit. Cyar believe I actually clicked the link and refreshed

[UML]

Wah bout the Debates Commission controversy?

Sabga, Father Harvey and other known pnm supporters in key positions

DC facilitating the date of the PNM over the PPG

A secret panel deciding on questions to be asked (why the secret is the panel from Balisier House?)

How are we to trust that the PNM is not given the questions in advance? Seeing the blatant bias in the DC

Victim mentality once again. Kamla is the PM , she supposed to be able to answer any question off the top of she head.

Rasc das you?

Victim mentality suits those who haven't gotten over slavery decades later

[rfari]

Keep it together uml.
So would u agree with the pm declining the debate if her conditions aren't met?

[UML]

http://Www.whatdeasskamlatinking.bomb

Gotdammit. Cyar believe I actually clicked the link and refreshed

Me too

[Redman]

Well if the unc could forgive wade mark fuh that error and have low enough standards to keep their confidence in the twat...what's the biggie with the DC?

[UML]

Keep it together uml.
So would u agree with the pm declining the debate if her conditions aren't met?

The date demand or the 29 propaganda demands that we can't get?

[rfari]

Keep it together uml.
So would u agree with the pm declining the debate if her conditions aren't met?

The date demand or the 29 propaganda demands that we can't get?

Both

[UML]

Grande looking gooooooooooood

Blue fete looks like u alone living in a fool's paradise and not seeing progress

[Redman]

The 29 non negotiable demands are BS?
.I got it off CNC3