Speed guns in effect in Trinidad & Tobago

[DVSTT]

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Is Hinds the minister of Ambiguous terms and changing the subject?

Scientific Data

[pugboy]

I have driven on highways everyday since last Monday, as far as grande and sando
have not seen the speed guns in use yet

[j.o.e]

Uncle aka traffic expert talking like he toting ...: Navara man spotted

[S_2NR]

dont worry guys, this will not be enforced consistently past june just like every other law in trinidad

[desifemlove]

'If 50 per cent of the population are routinely breaking the law it's actually the law that needs looking at.'

Quote from the British transport minister as they are about to change their speed limits to 130 kph from 110 kph on their motorways.

Thinking politicians do exist.

they can handle it. we can't. UK has better roads, better drives. no UK motorway does have potholes. most major roads have speed cameras. UK has better per capita accident rate. T&T was in top 10 in world a few years ago. UK has better driver training for learners. these campaigners need to not jus copy what countries wit better roads, more money, and better standards does do.

[drchaos]

'If 50 per cent of the population are routinely breaking the law it's actually the law that needs looking at.'

Quote from the British transport minister as they are about to change their speed limits to 130 kph from 110 kph on their motorways.

Thinking politicians do exist.

they can handle it. we can't. UK has better roads, better drives. no UK motorway does have potholes. most major roads have speed cameras. UK has better per capita accident rate. T&T was in top 10 in world a few years ago. UK has better driver training for learners. these campaigners need to not jus copy what countries wit better roads, more money, and better standards does do.

"no UK motorway does have potholes" Yes they do ... Where have you driven in the UK? Because in the midlands and the southwest potholes and bad road surfaces exist, quite frequently as well both on motorways and A roads. No, their roads are not as bad as here, the margin is not as great as you think but their road surface is not as perfect as you make it out to be.

"T&T was in top 10 in world a few years ago"
Don't know about accident rate per capita but accident deaths rates per 100,000 in T&T is below the world average and we not even in the top 50.

Again more than 50% of British motorist break the speed limits that their engineers set based on sound science. Yet they have one of the lowest accident/death rates in the world.

Still think speed is the cause of most accidents and road deaths?

[sMASH]

We can handle it, till about 120, then the 85% stops

[DVSTT]

'If 50 per cent of the population are routinely breaking the law it's actually the law that needs looking at.'

Quote from the British transport minister as they are about to change their speed limits to 130 kph from 110 kph on their motorways.

Thinking politicians do exist.

they can handle it. we can't. UK has better roads, better drives. no UK motorway does have potholes. most major roads have speed cameras. UK has better per capita accident rate. T&T was in top 10 in world a few years ago. UK has better driver training for learners. these campaigners need to not jus copy what countries wit better roads, more money, and better standards does do.

"no UK motorway does have potholes" Yes they do ... Where have you driven in the UK? Because in the midlands and the southwest potholes and bad road surfaces exist, quite frequently as well both on motorways and A roads. No, their roads are not as bad as here, the margin is not as great as you think but their road surface is not as perfect as you make it out to be.

"T&T was in top 10 in world a few years ago"
Don't know about accident rate per capita but accident deaths rates per 100,000 in T&T is below the world average and we not even in the top 50.

Again more than 50% of British motorist break the speed limits that their engineers set based on sound science. Yet they have one of the lowest accident/death rates in the world.

Still think speed is the cause of most accidents and road deaths?

People have been driving 120km/h on our roads for decades without incidence.

[drchaos]

Serious question! How far down the highway do they pick you up after you have been tagged by the tru cam?

[BRZ]

Extra Heavy "T" trucks should be DOUBLED or tripled the fines for speeding, how many times have we seen these killers lose control at high speeds and kill Innocent people!

[drchaos]

Extra Heavy "T" trucks should be DOUBLED or tripled the fines for speeding, how many times have we seen these killers lose control at high speeds and kill Innocent people!

Main problem with these trucks is that they use cheap chinese or foreign used tires ... These tires blow out all the time and cause accidents ... seeing shredded truck tire fragments on the highway is a normal ting.

[viedcht]

Soooo first this guy reports that no one asked for the speed limit to be reviewed so he is not going to review it.

Now he says it is constantly under review and the are collecting data from speed camera's ... Yet when pressed about how old and relevant his "scientific data" is he starts dodging sensible questions and baffling people will bull$h!%

This is what passes for a politician in sweet T&T.

Also you can't use the fact that only 1 person has died since implementation of speed guns to justify this nonsense. its just been 1 week ...

Boy them politician like they turn dotish soon as they enter office. Illiterate Contradictions.

[Average]

LOL Look at how men does run quick to defend this speed limit nah. Potholes...so all this time, all these years, potholes killing by the hundreds every MONTH? My God, allyuh for real?

[viedcht]

dont worry guys, this will not be enforced consistently past june just like every other law in trinidad

You optimistic... I feel these things aimed at revenue generation (especially if gov't staunch on not reviewing the current limit), not just to enforce the law. They probably banking on citizens to slip up.

[daas]

Just curious... How much does it cost to challenge a ticket?

[DVSTT]

dont worry guys, this will not be enforced consistently past june just like every other law in trinidad

You optimistic... I feel these things aimed at revenue generation (especially if gov't staunch on not reviewing the current limit), not just to enforce the law. They probably banking on citizens to slip up.

Meanwhile everywhere has traffic like mad.

[sMASH]

Extra Heavy "T" trucks should be DOUBLED or tripled the fines for speeding, how many times have we seen these killers lose control at high speeds and kill Innocent people!

U raise an interesting point. We have not done research into the accidents. We have studied what leads to most accidents. We have not studied the types of cars, the capability of the driver, the road conditions, the scenario, and what could have been done differently.

We just assume 'speed kills'

My point is, plenty more people drive above the speed limit, and if speed kills, more accidents should be happening. But they don't. Speed just increases the energy involved an a crash. But u don't necessarily have to get into accidents when moving at a pace.

Spliff minister say they constantly review the speed limit. No data nor studies available though.

[EmilioA]

'If 50 per cent of the population are routinely breaking the law it's actually the law that needs looking at.'

Quote from the British transport minister as they are about to change their speed limits to 130 kph from 110 kph on their motorways.

what happen if only 49% breaking the law ? The law good then right ?

Like I lucky to not get caught yes. I does still cruise at my 100-110 km/h safely. That 80km/h is extremely slow, boring, and distracting as I have to constantly keep watching the speedometer. It also causes an uneasy and uncomfortable driving experience. Additionally, I have found that I tend to zone off while trying to drive at and below 80km/h. Did it last week and I cannot cope.
I hope the petition which I signed does have some effect on deliberations toward raising the maximum allowable legal speed limit.

Same here. I does feel like I driving drunk and sleepy, drifting from side to side. Zero alertness and you have to keep checking vehicles, on your sides that not passing you.

Alyuh people have some serious medical issues . They just probably suspend your license entirely until you get a medical evaluation thats says you are not a danger to others.

Cant have alyuh fellahs in charge of 2 tons of moving vehicle

[BRZ]

If you cannot stay attentive at a slower speed , then why exactly do you think travelling at a faster will make you any more attentive?
if you cant be responsible enough to drive a car then maybe you should have your permit revoked?

[redrum]

Like brz driving a 120y or what...

[BRZ]

180B- didn't you get the memo?

[16 cycles]

^ one of this cruising below 80 would be nice...

[sMASH]

If you cannot stay attentive at a slower speed , then why exactly do you think travelling at a faster will make you any more attentive?
if you cant be responsible enough to drive a car then maybe you should have your permit revoked?

13 years of experience

[BrotherHood]

Hinds rel duck the real issue in that telephone interview. The reporter clearly realized it and hurried him off the phone.
Where is the empirical data to suggest that our roads were desinged to handle an upper limit of 80km/h? Additionally, if this data is older than ten years it is deemed irrelevant, as research and data older than that cannot be relied upon to make decision or set standards today.

If "it is constantly and currently being reviewed", then why is there a fixed penalty to something or a condition that is "under review" ?

[tr1ad]

'If 50 per cent of the population are routinely breaking the law it's actually the law that needs looking at.'

Quote from the British transport minister as they are about to change their speed limits to 130 kph from 110 kph on their motorways.

Thinking politicians do exist.

they can handle it. we can't. UK has better roads, better drives. no UK motorway does have potholes. most major roads have speed cameras. UK has better per capita accident rate. T&T was in top 10 in world a few years ago. UK has better driver training for learners. these campaigners need to not jus copy what countries wit better roads, more money, and better standards does do.

"no UK motorway does have potholes" Yes they do ... Where have you driven in the UK? Because in the midlands and the southwest potholes and bad road surfaces exist, quite frequently as well both on motorways and A roads. No, their roads are not as bad as here, the margin is not as great as you think but their road surface is not as perfect as you make it out to be.

"T&T was in top 10 in world a few years ago"
Don't know about accident rate per capita but accident deaths rates per 100,000 in T&T is below the world average and we not even in the top 50.

Again more than 50% of British motorist break the speed limits that their engineers set based on sound science. Yet they have one of the lowest accident/death rates in the world.

Still think speed is the cause of most accidents and road deaths?

People have been driving 120km/h on our roads for decades without incidence.

is it normal for you to spew sh!t so effortlessly?

[DVSTT]

'If 50 per cent of the population are routinely breaking the law it's actually the law that needs looking at.'

Quote from the British transport minister as they are about to change their speed limits to 130 kph from 110 kph on their motorways.

Thinking politicians do exist.

they can handle it. we can't. UK has better roads, better drives. no UK motorway does have potholes. most major roads have speed cameras. UK has better per capita accident rate. T&T was in top 10 in world a few years ago. UK has better driver training for learners. these campaigners need to not jus copy what countries wit better roads, more money, and better standards does do.

"no UK motorway does have potholes" Yes they do ... Where have you driven in the UK? Because in the midlands and the southwest potholes and bad road surfaces exist, quite frequently as well both on motorways and A roads. No, their roads are not as bad as here, the margin is not as great as you think but their road surface is not as perfect as you make it out to be.

"T&T was in top 10 in world a few years ago"
Don't know about accident rate per capita but accident deaths rates per 100,000 in T&T is below the world average and we not even in the top 50.

Again more than 50% of British motorist break the speed limits that their engineers set based on sound science. Yet they have one of the lowest accident/death rates in the world.

Still think speed is the cause of most accidents and road deaths?

People have been driving 120km/h on our roads for decades without incidence.

is it normal for you to spew sh!t so effortlessly?

What part of my statement was sheit?

[tr1ad]

'People have been driving 120km/h on our roads for decades without incidence'

[Altec55]

[ADONI]

Like brz driving a 120y or what...

Aye that have pepe eh!!!

[Les Bain]

Hinds rel duck the real issue in that telephone interview. The reporter clearly realized it and hurried him off the phone.
Where is the empirical data to suggest that our roads were desinged to handle an upper limit of 80km/h? Additionally, if this data is older than ten years it is deemed irrelevant, as research and data older than that cannot be relied upon to make decision or set standards today.

If "it is constantly and currently being reviewed", then why is there a fixed penalty to something or a condition that is "under review" ?

Cause it has been a revenue generating initiative since day 1, not a public safety initiative.