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Re: "Official" POLICE & Police Commisioner Related Matters thread ...

Postby redmanjp » August 2nd, 2024, 9:02 pm

dis legal?


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Postby MaxPower » August 2nd, 2024, 9:48 pm

redmanjp wrote:dis legal?



Yeh red,

Them fellas does tape bullet n ting to dey cocolooks so the officer is doing a search. You see the character right?

U would’ve prefer if he told him drop his pants and then start to stroke it up? But he didnt, it was brief and deemed necessary, don’t let the pest resistance make you question legality.

The officer also made it clear he was not a homosexual in a stern voice and took control of the situation. He showed no fear and not a man say boo.

This is the aggressive approach needed.

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Re: "Official" POLICE & Police Commisioner Related Matters thread ...

Postby K_J_R » August 2nd, 2024, 9:51 pm

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Erla, TTPS miss the mark on objectives
......

Murders particularly 
high in three divisions

 

Murders remain a nationwide concern, but data contained in the Compstat report revealed that the Port-of-Spain, Western and Tobago divisions were actively driving the murder toll.

Figures reported that as of May 13, there were 39 murders in the Port-of-Spain Division, compared to only 15 for the same period in 2023.

One of the more significant bursts of violence reported for the year thus far was observed in Harpe Place when five men were killed in a drive-by shooting in March.

The murders are believed to be part of ongoing warfare between Sixx and Seven gangs. No one was arrested or charged for the murders as of Wednesday evening.

Of the 39 murders in the Port-of-Spain Division, only three have been detected.

For years, the Port-of-Spain Division has had a relatively low individual murder toll compared to the Northern, North-Central and Central divisions.

During her Independence Day toast to the nation last year, Harewood-Christopher acknowledged that the North-Central Division which covers a significant stretch of the east-west Corridor was one of the divisions where an active increase in the murder toll was reported.

One senior officer said the return of the Port-of-Spain Division as a murder “hotbed” was worrying as it signalled unrest in the underworld.

“Usually when these kinds of murders increase in numbers around the capital, which is for want of a better term, the ‘headquarters’ of these gangs that means big changes are going on.

“It also means that there are a lot more incidents of violence to come before things can calm down again. We, the police, do our best, but ultimately we can’t be everywhere at once.”

The officer noted the brazen nature of some killings in the capital earlier this year, particularly the murder of Akeil Archer who was gunned down at the Queen’s Park Savannah in January, and the killing of Omar Hunte at the Breakfast Shed days later. Both murders occurred in broad daylight.

In the Western Division, there have been 23 murders for the year thus far, a marked increase from 14 reported for the same period in 2023.

On May 4, gunmen opened fire on a group of limers in Powder Magazine, Cocorite, killing four men and wounding eight others. These murders are also believed to be caused by ongoing gang warfare.

One source said the uptick in violence was believed to be a spillover from the feud in neighbouring Port-of-Spain Division.

In the Tobago Division, eight murders were reported as of May 13, compared to six for the same period last year.

In the most recent killing, Nikeisha Sandy was gunned down at Arnos Vale Road, Plymouth. Sandy is the third woman to be killed in Tobago in 2024 thus far, behind Deborah Gopaul, whose burnt remains were found off the Claude Noel Highway on March 26 and Shellon Walters-Joseph whose body was found over a precipice on May 4.

Of the remaining seven police divisions, the North Eastern Division showed the largest drop in murders, with 20 murders being reported as of May 13, compared to 42 murders for the same period last year.

 



https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/erla-tt ... 135500c993


this is fake news. every body know that only oppositiomn safe seats are crime hot spots like penal and debe.

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Postby KWW » August 2nd, 2024, 10:28 pm

MaxPower wrote:Them fellas does tape bullet n ting to dey cocolooks


LOL, you can't be serious.

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Postby alfa » August 4th, 2024, 7:10 am

So a lil update, one judicial review and two pre action protocol letters later and I did get my FUL. Applied since the pre Gary era when I heard he was gonna be the next cop after being in a shooting association for years prior. Got no response after getting my file number. Filled out a request for info form from firearms div in 2022 and never got a reply.
2023 got a lawyer to send a pap, no response followed by a judicial review where tanty decided to give me the provisional last year. Second rounds of investigation and then nothing again for several months. Second pap letter sent and finally got through.
I consider myself lucky as others went the same route and were denied including one my own lawyer did prior to mine. I documented everything from day one and kept copies of everything submitted and names of officers I dealt with as well as the investigating officers who recommended me to get the FUL so they really couldn't afford to make themselves look stupid in court.

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Postby Chimera » August 4th, 2024, 7:12 am

How much it cost you in lawyer fees?

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Postby alfa » August 4th, 2024, 7:24 am

Chimera wrote:How much it cost you in lawyer fees?

About 11 grand. The judge ordered the state to pay me back the full cost of the JR but after my lawyer told me some nonsense about he charged me a subsidized cost so he keeping that... Sigh
Lawyers are the biggest scamps in Trinidad. First one I checked told me 30k up front and I'll get though :shock:
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Postby pugboy » August 4th, 2024, 10:02 am

so other guy who also sent similar letters was rejected flatly in his application by erla ?

when you say you got no response, you never went to the ful dept and asked in person about your file#?
normally they would tell you with a smile that it’s approved and just “waiting on signature” which was the signal to go to your friendly gun dealer to have it expedited

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Postby pugboy » August 4th, 2024, 10:04 am

lot of them lawyers are bottom feeding scrunting scamps
the prices of these things should go down as it’s just a cut and paste they doing and more and more persons will be heading that route

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Chimera wrote:How much it cost you in lawyer fees?

About 11 grand. The judge ordered the state to pay me back the full cost of the JR but after my lawyer told me some nonsense about he charged me a subsidized cost so he keeping that... Sigh
Lawyers are the biggest scamps in Trinidad. First one I checked told me 30k up front and I'll get though :shock:
Be wary of lawyers in all matters, hope I never have to see a lawyer or court in life again

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Postby alfa » August 4th, 2024, 10:07 am

pugboy wrote:so other guy who also sent similar letters was rejected flatly in his application by erla ?

when you say you got no response, you never went to the ful dept and asked in person about your file#?
normally they would tell you with a smile that it’s approved and just “waiting on signature” which was the signal to go to your friendly gun dealer to have it expedited

Nah the days when GG was in charge I didn't have that kinda cheese to pelt out so I never even bothered. Only in 2022 when FUL dept came out with the form to fill out for info was when I decided to go try it. Last year was when I decided to seek legal advice on recommendation from one of my firearms instructors.
As to the other guy, he applied for a shotgun for pest control as he was a farmer, Erla told him a gun isn't the only method of pest control, the end.

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Postby pugboy » August 4th, 2024, 10:14 am

yeah it’s under gg when that dept got fully corrupted esp in his second year

i know persons who applied in the first year and would keep calling and going to the dept to harass them and got his application moving along without paying a cent

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Postby pugboy » August 12th, 2024, 7:27 pm

what’s the deal with road blocks and cops telling you that you cannot come out to see why they giving you a ticket for faded number plate or malfunctioning lights when nothing wrong with them?

can a cop charge you for coming out your car to dispute their allegations?

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Postby alfa » August 12th, 2024, 8:04 pm

pugboy wrote:what’s the deal with road blocks and cops telling you that you cannot come out to see why they giving you a ticket for faded number plate or malfunctioning lights when nothing wrong with them?

can a cop charge you for coming out your car to dispute their allegations?

I see TD47 aka Rambles get caught in that. One officer checked his lights and let him go, the next one in the same roadblock tell him his high beam out but he cannot come out to check and hit him a ticket. Good thing he had a dashcam vid where the lights were shining on a vehicle in front and it showed all were working. Man get a court date for 2028 to challenge the ticket yes.

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Postby zoom rader » August 12th, 2024, 8:12 pm

pugboy wrote:what’s the deal with road blocks and cops telling you that you cannot come out to see why they giving you a ticket for faded number plate or malfunctioning lights when nothing wrong with them?

can a cop charge you for coming out your car to dispute their allegations?
PNM have to make money for their mis management of the economy. Expect more tickets to come



Kick PNM out

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Postby pugboy » August 12th, 2024, 10:03 pm

friend of mine, his worker got caught with that
say he have defective number plate
yet plate looking fine, may just a touch faded but still white and no black showing through

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Postby bluefete » August 20th, 2024, 4:15 pm

This is a BOSS female police officer:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/7000150 ... 4920274798

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Postby CB Style » August 26th, 2024, 1:30 pm

Remember when Hoodrat7 was defending Erla because of reduction of murders since she became CoP?
Sometimes you really have to leave dem PNM J**k**s and let them bray.

Habit7 wrote:I agree that she doesn't sound as confident as GG or as intellectual as Williams. Frankly, she makes me wonder if she bought all her degrees. But we are currently experiencing a 30% reduction in murders. That is SoE kinda results. I cant say if it is a direct result of her work or not. But why the hate for her though? She is the only CoP in recent time that is experiencing successive years of reduction in murders. Why move her?

Is it that ppl want to hear Sheriff Gary but murders still increasing?
Or Reno 911 but the murders going down?
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Postby bluefete » August 26th, 2024, 5:11 pm

But Tantie Erla say murders down.

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Postby alfa » August 26th, 2024, 5:16 pm

Once a police officer comes on the media and starts off by saying 'homiecide' I don't take them seriously lol

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Postby Mmoney607 » August 26th, 2024, 7:31 pm

And " Crime and Criminality" and "information circulating in the public domain"

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Postby zoom rader » August 26th, 2024, 8:25 pm

CB Style wrote:Remember when Hoodrat7 was defending Erla because of reduction of murders since she became CoP?
Sometimes you really have to leave dem PNM J**k**s and let them bray.

Habit7 wrote:I agree that she doesn't sound as confident as GG or as intellectual as Williams. Frankly, she makes me wonder if she bought all her degrees. But we are currently experiencing a 30% reduction in murders. That is SoE kinda results. I cant say if it is a direct result of her work or not. But why the hate for her though? She is the only CoP in recent time that is experiencing successive years of reduction in murders. Why move her?

Is it that ppl want to hear Sheriff Gary but murders still increasing?
Or Reno 911 but the murders going down?
Not Hoodrat7

But PNM lick arse Habit7

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Postby redmanjp » September 3rd, 2024, 3:39 pm

Judge: Recording police not a criminal offence

https://newsday.co.tt/2024/09/03/judge-recording-police-not-a-criminal-offence/

not that this wasn't known before

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Postby pugboy » September 3rd, 2024, 3:50 pm

lawd frankie again they go say
didn’t realize it was the famous richard smith

i remember this one, they certainly weren’t inches away the man face

redmanjp wrote:Judge: Recording police not a criminal offence

https://newsday.co.tt/2024/09/03/judge-recording-police-not-a-criminal-offence/

not that this wasn't known before

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Postby pugboy » September 15th, 2024, 6:59 pm

https://trinidadexpress.com/news/local/ ... 0edcd.html

is now ppl going to call them market pohleece

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Postby 16 cycles » September 15th, 2024, 7:08 pm

. Seepersad also renewed a call for errant police officers to pay court-awarded compensation, rather than the State.

“Until people are affected by their pockets, behavioural patterns would not be revisited and adjusted.”

The judge also reminded that videotaping events in a public place, particularly involving the police, was not a criminal offence.


https://newsday.co.tt/2024/09/03/judge- ... l-offence/

Basically said the snr officer is a liar....

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Postby pugboy » September 15th, 2024, 7:15 pm

will never happen
remember politicians use police as thugs
who operate with impunity and no repercussions
if they can now be held personally liable they won’t do dirty work anymore

16 cycles wrote:
. Seepersad also renewed a call for errant police officers to pay court-awarded compensation, rather than the State.

“Until people are affected by their pockets, behavioural patterns would not be revisited and adjusted.”

The judge also reminded that videotaping events in a public place, particularly involving the police, was not a criminal offence.


https://newsday.co.tt/2024/09/03/judge- ... l-offence/

Basically said the snr officer is a liar....

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Postby hover11 » September 16th, 2024, 7:22 am

Meanwhile ,they crashing newly licensed vehicles due to their own actions with ZERO repercussions because they getting a brand new toy to destroy the next week.Seepersad really want them to pay lawsuits from their salary. He will wait for that.
16 cycles wrote:
. Seepersad also renewed a call for errant police officers to pay court-awarded compensation, rather than the State.

“Until people are affected by their pockets, behavioural patterns would not be revisited and adjusted.”

The judge also reminded that videotaping events in a public place, particularly involving the police, was not a criminal offence.


https://newsday.co.tt/2024/09/03/judge- ... l-offence/

Basically said the snr officer is a liar....

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Postby alfa » September 16th, 2024, 8:08 am

hover11 wrote:Meanwhile ,they crashing newly licensed vehicles due to their own actions with ZERO repercussions because they getting a brand new toy to destroy the next week.Seepersad really want them to pay lawsuits from their salary. He will wait for that.
16 cycles wrote:
. Seepersad also renewed a call for errant police officers to pay court-awarded compensation, rather than the State.

“Until people are affected by their pockets, behavioural patterns would not be revisited and adjusted.”

The judge also reminded that videotaping events in a public place, particularly involving the police, was not a criminal offence.


https://newsday.co.tt/2024/09/03/judge- ... l-offence/

Basically said the snr officer is a liar....

I know how public servants think and if you hold them accountable for their vehicles they simply won't drive them. Lose lose situation either way

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Postby MaxPower » September 16th, 2024, 9:14 am

alfa wrote:I know how public servants think and if you hold them accountable for their vehicles they simply won't drive them. Lose lose situation either way


Exactly,

And we are to blame for encouraging this infamous Trini work ethic.

“won’t”
“can’t”
“not”
“me eh doin dat”

^ these words need to be put OUT of their vocabulary.

Instructions need to be followed precisely or face disciplinary action. But this is T&T so…

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Postby daxt0r » September 16th, 2024, 3:50 pm

sad day in TT on TT that you fully correct dey Max :(

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