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redmanjp wrote:exactly when they went on the cruise ? March or February?
the situation back in February wasn't nearly as serious as last month when everything including lock downs started.
My sentiments exactly.*$kїđž![emoji769] wrote:They should now be asking themselves if this cruise was really worth it now....
Hope they recover and are released soon and hopefully they will not make foolish decisions in the futurehydroep wrote:Another disparity between what the Government is reporting and "reality". If what the patients are saying is true no wonder people trying to escape quarantine...‘Nightmare at Caura Hospital’
Recovering COVID-19 patients beg for final tests for release
Carolyn Kissoon, Anna Ramdass
SINCE leaving the confines of the Couva Hospital last Friday, the country has been told that the 17 recovering COVID-19 coronavirus patients are being given optimal care at a place of rest and relaxation.
The patients are however complaining they are living a completely different reality and continue to endure a nightmare that began the day their cruise ship confirmed a coronavirus case six weeks ago.
The Express has been told that ten of the 17 patients transferred out of the Couva Hospital were from the ill-fated cruise.
The recovering patients were transferred to the Caura Hospital last week to wait out the remainder of their quarantine.
But the new arrangement is nothing like they had been promised, some of them said.
At nightfall last Friday, the asymptomatic patients were placed in buses and taken to the Caura Hospital.
Trinidad and Tobago Police Service (TTPS) and Defence Force officers escorted the buses to the facility. An ambulance accompanied the patients in case of an emergency.
Chief Medical Officer Dr Roshan Parasram had said at least 17 patients were expected to be relocated to a “non-hospital” environment as the patients were “well”.
Parasram said the patients would be required to undergo two tests and get negative results in both instances, within a 24-hour period.
But the testing was not immediately done and patients say they are appalled by the conditions at the Caura facility.
Patients contacted the Express yesterday expressing disgust over their conditions at Caura Hospital.
The Express was told that the patients comprised 12 women and five men at the facility, ranging from ages 30 to 70 years.
No privacy
A spokesperson for the patients said the men and women are separated by a “partition” and there was no privacy.
The patient said, “The conditions here will cause a riot. The men have to share one toilet. There is a line to go to the bathroom on mornings and always an argument. The women have two toilets and three bathrooms so it is a little easier there. The men have to pass through the women’s dormitory to get to their bathroom. That is very embarrassing. Our privacy is not being respected here. This is not what we were told when they were moving us. They said a non-hospital environment, this is not what we expected. We are not sick, we are waiting to go home.”
The patient said the diet was unacceptable and ventilation in the rooms was poor.
He said, “This morning we have no water. The breakfast and lunch here is terrible. We are being eaten by mosquitoes as there are no fans.”
In tears, a woman said, “I did not see my family in 32 days. They treating us like dogs here. We have no symptoms and we did not get tested since coming here. We got no medication. We want to go home now, test us and get it over with.”
The patient said they were informed that on arrival at the Caura Hospital they would be tested for two negative results.
“We did not get that done yet. We are willing to self-quarantine on leaving here but we need to get those two tests,” she said.
Silent protest
The Express was told by another patient that the sanitary conditions at Caura are terrible.
The patient said she shares a small area with several people, one of whom seemed to have mental health issues.
The patient claimed the conditions under which they were being kept were dehumanising.
The woman said that there were different buildings housing patients and some have the luxury of their own private room.
She said one of these people is a social media personality.
The Express was told by a male patient that there is no proper disposal of garbage and many are worried that the absence of air conditioning, the heat and unsanitary conditions will make them ill.
A relative of one of the patients transferred to Caura Hospital also contacted the Express on Monday.
The relative said patients have made several attempts to speak to senior medical staff about the testing to no avail.
“They have been waiting with no answers and it is becoming very frustrating. My relative is becoming overwhelmed with frustration. I have to constantly talk to him to keep his cool. They told them the situation in Caura will be more relaxed and a better setting for them but it seems to be worse than Couva,” the relative said.
The Express was told that the patients staged a silent protest yesterday, triggering action from the authorities.
“Because we stand down this morning and demanded out rights a doctor came with some results (tests taken at Couva) and called in patients one at a time. They said we will have to do another test,” a patient said.
Consultant forensic psychiatrist at the North West Regional Health Authority Hazel Othello said yesterday an additional 17 patients were expected to be moved out of the Couva Hospital in the coming days. The patients were asymptomatic and awaiting their negative test results, she said.
CEO to visit Caura
Speaking at yesterday’s virtual media conference in response to a question, Health Minister Terrence Deyalsingh said he had asked the chief executive officer of the North Central Regional Health Authority to visit the Caura Hospital. Deyalsingh said, “I will always be at a disadvantage responding to individuals anonymously but I have asked the chief executive officer to go into Caura and do what is necessary to make life as comfortable as positive to all the people there.”
https://trinidadexpress.com/news/local/nightmare-at-caura-hospital/article_9ccb7c8c-7a00-11ea-9832-03472645c667.html
redmanjp wrote:exactly when they went on the cruise ? March or February?
the situation back in February wasn't nearly as serious as last month when everything including lock downs started.
MaxPower wrote:^ didnt read all of it...
Cant handle the complaining and whining and crying and sad stories and sympathy seeking...
All i am concerned with is if they learnt their lesson.
Blasted embarrassment.
mero wrote:That grocery was in St. Paul street or wha?
Went pricesmart today, like how outside moved in order, fully spaced out and quick. Inside at least 95% of ppl had on face masks, was quite surprised
redmanjp wrote:so diarrhoea is a symptom and i had it Tuesday but no fever or cough- i assumed it was bad food i buy
just learned a coworker is self-isolating as his family had contact with a relative from New York (the epicentre of the US)
should i be concerned? note we are on rotation so he last came to work Monday and i wasn't in office then but came out to work Tuesday & Wednesday
MaxPower wrote:redmanjp wrote:so diarrhoea is a symptom and i had it Tuesday but no fever or cough- i assumed it was bad food i buy
just learned a coworker is self-isolating as his family had contact with a relative from New York (the epicentre of the US)
should i be concerned? note we are on rotation so he last came to work Monday and i wasn't in office then but came out to work Tuesday & Wednesday
Not sure how long ago this post was,
But you had mild Trotman symptoms, and in this pandemic, I would be very concerned.
However, if you called the Hotline, you would be denied a test along with the other thousands that called.
redmanjp wrote:MaxPower wrote:redmanjp wrote:so diarrhoea is a symptom and i had it Tuesday but no fever or cough- i assumed it was bad food i buy
just learned a coworker is self-isolating as his family had contact with a relative from New York (the epicentre of the US)
should i be concerned? note we are on rotation so he last came to work Monday and i wasn't in office then but came out to work Tuesday & Wednesday
Not sure how long ago this post was,
But you had mild Trotman symptoms, and in this pandemic, I would be very concerned.
However, if you called the Hotline, you would be denied a test along with the other thousands that called.
this was 2 weeks ago- i actually felt better but yesterday i had a slight diarrhea again- 2 weeks apart
i called the covid hotline last week and they said to isolate for 14 days from the date of initial symptoms which ended Monday gone but now that it start back i guess i have to call them again and ask for a test- however i never had any fever or cough.
gastly369 wrote:Huh... Well all kinda ting prob "spread" in that party for allyuh know
No, Holding Your Breath is Not a 'Simple Self-Check' for CoronavirusGladiator wrote:I read an article by a Taiwanese doctor for a self test that can probably let you know if you have covid. He said that first thing as you wake up in the morning take a big breath and hold it for 10 seconds. If you cannot make 10 seconds without coughing then something is wrong....
If you have stink mouth you might not pass this test anyway... but it worth a tryredmanjp wrote:MaxPower wrote:redmanjp wrote:so diarrhoea is a symptom and i had it Tuesday but no fever or cough- i assumed it was bad food i buy
just learned a coworker is self-isolating as his family had contact with a relative from New York (the epicentre of the US)
should i be concerned? note we are on rotation so he last came to work Monday and i wasn't in office then but came out to work Tuesday & Wednesday
Not sure how long ago this post was,
But you had mild Trotman symptoms, and in this pandemic, I would be very concerned.
However, if you called the Hotline, you would be denied a test along with the other thousands that called.
this was 2 weeks ago- i actually felt better but yesterday i had a slight diarrhea again- 2 weeks apart
i called the covid hotline last week and they said to isolate for 14 days from the date of initial symptoms which ended Monday gone but now that it start back i guess i have to call them again and ask for a test- however i never had any fever or cough.
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shake d livin wake d dead wrote:One maxi driver in Grande has tested positive
Gladiator wrote:I read an article by a Taiwanese doctor for a self test that can probably let you know if you have covid. He said that first thing as you wake up in the morning take a big breath and hold it for 10 seconds. If you cannot make 10 seconds without coughing then something is wrong....
If you have stink mouth you might not pass this test anyway... but it worth a tryredmanjp wrote:MaxPower wrote:redmanjp wrote:so diarrhoea is a symptom and i had it Tuesday but no fever or cough- i assumed it was bad food i buy
just learned a coworker is self-isolating as his family had contact with a relative from New York (the epicentre of the US)
should i be concerned? note we are on rotation so he last came to work Monday and i wasn't in office then but came out to work Tuesday & Wednesday
Not sure how long ago this post was,
But you had mild Trotman symptoms, and in this pandemic, I would be very concerned.
However, if you called the Hotline, you would be denied a test along with the other thousands that called.
this was 2 weeks ago- i actually felt better but yesterday i had a slight diarrhea again- 2 weeks apart
i called the covid hotline last week and they said to isolate for 14 days from the date of initial symptoms which ended Monday gone but now that it start back i guess i have to call them again and ask for a test- however i never had any fever or cough.
It’s all about race
‘Stranded’ Trinis in Barbados claim discrimination, ‘delay tactics’
Anna Ramdass
Some Indo-Trinidad and Tobago nationals stranded in Barbados are of the view they are being rejected from entering this country because of their race.
Reached in Barbados yesterday via telephone, spokesperson for the group of 33 nationals, Phillip Ramdial, said the People’s National Movement (PNM) Government facilitated the entry of 68 nationals who went on a cruise organised by PNM Senator Augustus Thomas, but shut the door on 33 people who also went on a cruise and are currently in Barbados because of the mercy and humanitarian intervention of the Barbados government.
The majority of the group left Trinidad on February 27 for Dubai for a cruise on the Indian Ocean. Whilst sailing, the coronavirus outbreak became a global problem and they were forced to dock in Cape Town, South Africa.
The group made a desperate bid to journey home, flying from South Africa to Dubai to London and then to Barbados.
They arrived in Barbados on March 23, a day after the Trinidad and Tobago Government closed the borders.
National Security Minister Stuart Young said then he told the Barbados government that this country’s borders were closed and the Trinidadians therefore could not come home.
The Barbados government, headed by Prime Minister Mia Mottley, took the humanitarian decision to keep the group in Barbados, but they had to undergo a mandatory 14 days of quarantine.
That quarantine period ended on Monday, and the group was given a certificate of clearance by the Barbados Health Ministry.
Last Sunday, Barbados’ Minister of Health Jeffrey Bostic announced the group had been cleared of any symptoms of the coronavirus.
The group therefore thought they would now be able to return to Trinidad, but were again rejected, with Young saying they must be tested for COVID-19.
Ethnic divide
Ramdial, 74, said yesterday it appears the group is being treated in such a manner because they are mostly Indo-Trinidadians.
“I think it’s because of the ethic divide. We have started thinking that it must be the ethnic divide. They have all the information—names, passport numbers, address, everything they need to get, but it is because of that ethnic divide. I didn’t want to think that but, sorry, I have to say that. These people are vindictive and wicked, very nasty, and to say they don’t know, they damn well know,” he said.
“To be honest, we are 33 in number, two of the group are of African descent,” he added.
“I don’t know who is boss, whether it is Mr Stuart Young or Dr Keith Rowley. I’m not sure because I like Dr Rowley, and I cannot understand how he could allow this to happen,” he continued.
He pointed out other countries in the world went through great efforts to repatriate their citizens, but Trinidad and Tobago has shunned its own.
Ramdial said it is very clear there’s discrimination when you look at how the other group of cruisers was treated.
Symptom-free
Thomas, a temporary PNM senator and president of Works Credit Union, had organised the seven-day Caribbean cruise.
The cruisers, mostly elderly people, were stranded in Guadeloupe and arrangements were made for them to take a special flight to Trinidad.
They were then immediately taken from Piarco International Airport to Balandra. Forty-nine of the 68 tested positive for the virus and some members from the group have died.
Ramdial said his group are also elderly persons, but they’re virus-free.
“We were quarantined and certified virus-free from the Barbados government. Our Trinidad and Tobago Government said we must be tested before they give us the permit to re-enter to the country,” he said.
He said there was no word on any test kits from Trinidad.
He said the Barbados government has its own people to look after and have to watch its resources.
Ramdial said Cuban doctors and nurses are also in Barbados to lend assistance.
“We are cleared of all viruses and any symptoms; bring us home, carry out your tests, we agree; put us in quarantine again, we agree, but they not doing that. They said they sending the test kits...so Barbados must now find manpower and lab and so on to do that for another country?” he asked.
“We are virus-free, but you want to test us as delay tactics to keep us out of the country; suffer them little fellows. This is how we look at it,” he said, adding no one from the group has any symptoms.
Ramdial said the rejection the group faced on Wednesday was heart-breaking.
“The opportunity to be in Tobago yesterday (Wednesday) was most disturbing. That Condor airline came to Barbados and all arrangements were made with the Barbados government to pick us up and take us so we can go to Tobago,” he said.
“It was at no cost to the Trinidad and Tobago Government; the Condor airline was bringing us for free through arrangements made by the Barbados government,” he added
Funds low
“The Barbados government is trying their best; they are accommodating us in the country, and I must praise Prime Minister Mia Mottley and the hotel that is extending a hand to us, but at a cost,” he said.
However, he lamented that funds were running low.
“This is the third week we are in Barbados paying a hotel (Sugar Cane Club Hotel & Spa). We cannot afford to buy the meals at the hotel; we have a little kitchenette and we prepare something as the days go by, but the funds are running out,” he said.
Ramdial pleaded with Rowley to intervene.
He said they are willing to be tested and undergo further quarantine, but they simply want to return home to Trinidad.
Contact tracing easy in that scenario?pugboy wrote:they gonna include this in today’s numbers ?
https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/sangre- ... 48a4421e60shake d livin wake d dead wrote:One maxi driver in Grande has tested positive
