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pugboy wrote:who would want to work and get instructions from heinz on a monday morning
who would want to come in a press conference to talk about reducing crime yet be told to not
lock down the hotspots of heinz voters
Habit7 wrote:pugboy wrote:who would want to work and get instructions from heinz on a monday morning
who would want to come in a press conference to talk about reducing crime yet be told to not
lock down the hotspots of heinz voters
Fret not because in Trinidad and Tobago, neither the PM nor the MoNS can instruct and CoP to do anything.
The govt’s role to ensure that the CoP is outfitted and financed to carry out their role. To match the govt’s legislative policy with the TTPS execution.
The TTPS is independent and is overseen by the independent Police Service Commission.
The CoP can act within their role from locking down any neighbourhood to arresting a sitting minister as was the case with Marlene. No PM or MoNS can tell the CoP how much or who to grant FULs.
alfa wrote:Habit7 wrote:pugboy wrote:who would want to work and get instructions from heinz on a monday morning
who would want to come in a press conference to talk about reducing crime yet be told to not
lock down the hotspots of heinz voters
Fret not because in Trinidad and Tobago, neither the PM nor the MoNS can instruct and CoP to do anything.
The govt’s role to ensure that the CoP is outfitted and financed to carry out their role. To match the govt’s legislative policy with the TTPS execution.
The TTPS is independent and is overseen by the independent Police Service Commission.
The CoP can act within their role from locking down any neighbourhood to arresting a sitting minister as was the case with Marlene. No PM or MoNS can tell the CoP how much or who to grant FULs.
Oh no not you/this again
Habit7 wrote:pugboy wrote:who would want to work and get instructions from heinz on a monday morning
who would want to come in a press conference to talk about reducing crime yet be told to not
lock down the hotspots of heinz voters
Fret not because in Trinidad and Tobago, neither the PM nor the MoNS can instruct and CoP to do anything.
The govt’s role to ensure that the CoP is outfitted and financed to carry out their role. To match the govt’s legislative policy with the TTPS execution.
The TTPS is independent and is overseen by the independent Police Service Commission.
The CoP can act within their role from locking down any neighbourhood to arresting a sitting minister as was the case with Marlene. No PM or MoNS can tell the CoP how much or who to grant FULs.
bluefete wrote:So yuh saying Gary dida lie on the PM? Yuh wukking real hard for that balisier money.
“The CoP is responsible for the TTPS, in totality. The minister is responsible for ensuring the TTPS is resourced, outfitted and funded with all the requirements, which includes manpower to do their job. He can’t tell them how to do their job, but he can question and evaluate if the job is being done to the people’s, his or the Government’s satisfaction. Both roles rely on each other for a common goal, a unified effort and a joint vision. This should be the restoration of safety and security for T&T.”
https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/on-hind ... 2aab6d8c32
Habit7 wrote:pugboy wrote:who would want to work and get instructions from heinz on a monday morning
who would want to come in a press conference to talk about reducing crime yet be told to not
lock down the hotspots of heinz voters
Fret not because in Trinidad and Tobago, neither the PM nor the MoNS can instruct and CoP to do anything.
The govt’s role to ensure that the CoP is outfitted and financed to carry out their role. To match the govt’s legislative policy with the TTPS execution.
The TTPS is independent and is overseen by the independent Police Service Commission.
The CoP can act within their role from locking down any neighbourhood to arresting a sitting minister as was the case with Marlene. No PM or MoNS can tell the CoP how much or who to grant FULs.
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Habit7 wrote:pugboy wrote:who would want to work and get instructions from heinz on a monday morning
who would want to come in a press conference to talk about reducing crime yet be told to not
lock down the hotspots of heinz voters
Fret not because in Trinidad and Tobago, neither the PM nor the MoNS can instruct and CoP to do anything.
The govt’s role to ensure that the CoP is outfitted and financed to carry out their role. To match the govt’s legislative policy with the TTPS execution.
The TTPS is independent and is overseen by the independent Police Service Commission.
The CoP can act within their role from locking down any neighbourhood to arresting a sitting minister as was the case with Marlene. No PM or MoNS can tell the CoP how much or who to grant FULs.
The PM could manipulate the choices for who gets to be COP though...yall prefer that gobar ent
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Just remember the entire bliss seepersad episode
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:The PM could manipulate the choices for who gets to be COP though...yall prefer that gobar ent
Who is a sheep and who is blogger?You constantly posting nonsense like the ‘PM should do a criminal sting operation’ or ‘the minister instructing the CoP.’ And all I am simply telling you is that the ppl you are talking about cannot legal perform what you claiming should or did perform.pugboy wrote:a sheep’s is a sheep’s unless is a blogger
alfa wrote:Didn't Erla place nearly last on the merit list? I prefer to believe someone made a call rather than everyone in the independent selection panels being total idiots to choose her. All this talk about the Pm cannot instruct anyone to do anything, just remember someone at the top instructed someone to hire a dunce like Reshmi some years ago so don't say it can't happen but rather it's not supposed to happen
pugboy wrote:“what the laws says” and what happened is 2 diff ting
pugboy wrote:doh come and ask for vid ................
i ain’t have time today to look for that vid
She, however, failed to say whether she had given permission to police officers to go to Barbados to carry out the “extraction.”
In an address to the Barbadian Parliament on May 9, 2023, Attorney General Dale Marshall, SC, said he recognised Barbados’ officers had “fallen short” of the law by acting without an extradition request. “I can confirm that no request was made for the extradition of Mr Thomas.”
The_Honourable wrote:ermm... we all know Rowley intercepted bliss seepersad to withdraw the merit list over the FUL allegations leading to a public uproar and embarrassment at president's house. Seepersad is in court with respect to that matter while the FUL scandal so far turned out to be a flop.
Erla who was chosen by rowley in the parliament scored low on the short list somehow came first on the merit list, which was compiled by a pro pnm police service commission, who was chosen by a pro pnm president, who was chosen by rowley.
Rowley himself who stated that Erla was the "highest grade candidate" turned out to be just as bad as pensioner jacob which confirms the belief to many that the pro pnm PSC more than likely fixed the merit list for Erla to be first. By appointing her, she's "beholden" to rowley, pnm looks good for approving the first female CoP, and avoids debating Gary altogether in parliament.
pugboy wrote:“what the laws says” and what happened is 2 diff ting
lewwe not try to diverge and ignore the facts
which happened, wrong is wrong
Habit7 wrote:The_Honourable wrote:ermm... we all know Rowley intercepted bliss seepersad to withdraw the merit list over the FUL allegations leading to a public uproar and embarrassment at president's house. Seepersad is in court with respect to that matter while the FUL scandal so far turned out to be a flop.
Erla who was chosen by rowley in the parliament scored low on the short list somehow came first on the merit list, which was compiled by a pro pnm police service commission, who was chosen by a pro pnm president, who was chosen by rowley.
Rowley himself who stated that Erla was the "highest grade candidate" turned out to be just as bad as pensioner jacob which confirms the belief to many that the pro pnm PSC more than likely fixed the merit list for Erla to be first. By appointing her, she's "beholden" to rowley, pnm looks good for approving the first female CoP, and avoids debating Gary altogether in parliament.
If the PM had a report on one of the candidates he had to act. One man said the PM should have done a sting, that is nonsense. As I said before, the PM cannot instruct the CoP, but he sure can pass on his report to the PolSC and their subsequent action is theirs. Nevertheless, 8 officers have been arrested so far in the FUL scandal you call a flop https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/8-cops- ... 3841e2066f
I don't know where you get info on how much Erla scored on the shortlist, but as I refuted, she topped the merit list. Paula Mae Weekes was appointed UNANIMOUSLY by the Electoral College. So to call her a PNM president is disingenuous. The process to appoint a CoP is constitutional meaning that it was one approved by a special majority. So to call those appointed by the constitutional process pro-PNM or pro-UNC is disingenuous as well. By that logic, nobody can be a CoP without political affiliation. GG was appointed CoP as a former UNC minister without the votes of the UNC Opposition. Was he a pro PNM CoP?
The Guardian independently assessed commissioners since 2004 and Erla topped several areas over Jacob. But both Erla and Jacob had better stats than Gary. https://www.trinituner.com/v4/forums/me ... le&u=25113
I really don't care about UNC talking point speculations about the PolSC, so please don't repeat them as fact. And again Erla Christopher was appointed unanimously by the Lower House, both PNM and UNC were proud to appoint the first female CoP. So don't try to politicise the process now.
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