2012/13 Budget - 44% increase in Premium gasoline

[1UZFE]

Pakaskas lives on with me... I will always be from Pakaskas though my planet is no more

respect...

[Rooki3]

Bring back pnm

this real funny comin from u jedd

[acesinghit]

if those corolla 1nz-fe and tiida hr16de boys damage their motors as a result of using super instead of premium which is for audi and bmw etc...(the 6% group) then they all should sue the PM. You expect the PM to know what grade fuel dem tiida using?

They didn't increase diesel because them injun with the hilux and prado will get orn (hard core party supporters).

[rfari]

if those corolla 1nz-fe and tiida hr16de boys damage their motors as a result of using super instead of premium which is for audi and bmw etc...(the 6% group) then they all should sue the PM. You expect the PM to know what grade fuel dem tiida using?

They didn't increase diesel because them injun with the hilux and prado will get orn (hard core party supporters).

Diesel men would file an injunction if this happens

[toyolink]

The increase in fuel price wasn't totally unexpected,it was just a matter of what fuel they picked.
What is unfortunate is the voicing of a justification which tells me the authorities have their facts very wrong.
Only 6% of the vehicle population would be affected------wrong.
Only wealthy with BMW etc impacted ......wrong again.
The x5 (majority diesel),Korean suv's (many diesel),Luxury pick-ups (almost all diesel),Audi (Q class almost all diesel) and the list goes on.
The fact is that some group was due to feel pain right away but what more concerns me is the possibility of poor analysis being done by technical personnel who don't have a clue.
The use of premium fuel in T&T is not strictly governed nor determined by octane tolerances as stated in some manuals.Many owner have to take into consideration the differences in 'purity' and consistence of quality.
There can be no argument eg. the nze121 and nze141 performs much better equipted with toyota iridium s/plugs and running premium which also results in better operating cost experiences.Those of us who are pushed to use super and the low end platinum s/plug just don't get operating efficiences which the vehicles are capable of and thus end up paying higher running costs.
CNG as a broad based alternative fuel comes with big challenges some of which could be huge deal breakers.
Yes,gov't needs to reduce the fuel subsidies bill but this must be achieved by using valid information and creative thinking.......but alas that and GOD'S face we may only see at the end.

[Allergic2BunnyEars]

Kamla troll us. She just bought a turbodiesel rover. She knew d writing was on d wall.

[Morpheus]

My humble CK4. Rubbing shoulders with Audis and BMWs according to the PM. Therefore I can afford to pay the hike. Well yes.

I guess they have no clue about high compression engines. VVL, VVT, MIVEC, VTEC unite!!

My bad with the +98 I mentioned earlier. Dunno where I got that

[tr1ad]

we the members of the 6% taking premium to a new level yo!

[Grudge]

So the woman claims that only 6% of drivers will be affected. So they let 6% of the population feel the burden of the reduced subsidy.
So 94% of the population feels no effect (so they think). Does this come across to you guys as good governance?
From the figures the PM have, had they just raised super by $0.14 and say premium by $0.40 lets not even discuss the dirty diesel, that should reduce the subsidy by alot more.

But they know governance.

I doh have a problem with increase eh but even if is only 6%, this little of the population must pay this. And from their logic this will also be the 6% who are taxed heavier. Shaft from both sides.

[Stephon.]

we the members of the 6% taking premium to a new level yo!

Lmao according to kamla. Everyone in this thread with the exception of TRAE and nervewrecker drives an audi / BMW

[solidust]

^^^yea bro poor ck

[tr1ad]

we the members of the 6% taking premium to a new level yo!

Lmao according to kamla. Everyone in this thread with the exception of TRAE and nervewrecker drives an audi / BMW

so sorry..... apparently you didn't get the memo

WE are the 6% almera and lancer don't count...

premium thing yo

subaru
audi
bmw
benz
mazda
evo
range

represent!!!

[[X]~Outlaw]

That should be the new badge/sticker on cars now........6%er driving on silk

[TRAE]

duane driving evoooooo

[pioneer]

I find de forum politicians kinda quiet...wam dem not in de 6%?


Using this woman failedlogic...gas stations should only have 6% premium pumps?

[TRAE]

i sure diesel getting shaft just now eh

[DJ Q]

Can somebody confirm for me the recommended fuel for a HR15DE engine, please?

Super from manual,90/91

What about the MR20DE in the 2.0 L Sylphy?

[Grudge]

"Using this woman failedlogic...gas stations should only have 6% premium pumps?"

^^^ That is correct pioneer........
Fooling the people....
Their figures probably show 50% using CNG

[Allergic2BunnyEars]

i sure diesel getting shaft just now eh

I suspect diesel will get shaft but not as much as premium. I feel it will increase from $1.50 per litre to something like $3.00 per litre. 100% price hike but still nowhere near the real cost of diesel.

[tr1ad]

I find de forum politicians kinda quiet...wam dem not in de 6%?

they not premium enough yo.....

besides they have hilux, navara, ranger etc

[RBphoto]

we the members of the 6% taking premium to a new level yo!

Lmao according to kamla. Everyone in this thread with the exception of TRAE and nervewrecker drives an audi / BMW

so sorry..... apparently you didn't get the memo

WE are the 6% almera and lancer don't count...

premium thing yo

subaru
audi
bmw
benz
mazda
evo
range
Tiida
represent!!!

[Habit7]

I find de forum politicians kinda quiet...wam dem not in de 6%?


Using this woman failedlogic...gas stations should only have 6% premium pumps?

Kamla makes the most absurd statements. There is no thought process, or research, just incoherence. If her theory is correct, and one in every 16 car owners use premium, then why are there so many premium pumps in our gas stations? Based on her figures, there should only be one premium pump out of every 16 pumps, but in reality, some stations have more premium pumps than super pumps, while in most gas stations there is a 50/50 split. The true figure is much more than 6%

[Daran]

How this affecting vehicle prices though?

I see men doen selling off vehicles that require premium unleaded cheap.

Does this mean owners of cars that require super unleaded gonna increase prices?

Thanks for the suggestion, just added 10k to the price of by PBT corolla...PM if interested.

[Daran]

I find de forum politicians kinda quiet...wam dem not in de 6%?


Using this woman failedlogic...gas stations should only have 6% premium pumps?

Kamla makes the most absurd statements. There is no thought process, or research, just incoherence. If her theory is correct, and one in every 16 car owners use premium, then why are there so many premium pumps in our gas stations? Based on her figures, there should only be one premium pump out of every 16 pumps, but in reality, some stations have more premium pumps than super pumps, while in most gas stations there is a 50/50 split. The true figure is much more than 6%

She was clever with words (maybe unintentionally), but she said 6% of the subsidy, not users.

Anybody with a gas station care to give a more realistic figure of % of cars that need to use premium?

[Conrad]

She was clever with words (maybe unintentionally), but she said 6% of the subsidy, not users.

Anybody with a gas station care to give a more realistic figure of % of cars that need to use premium?

Persad-Bissessar said she was "advised that only about six per cent of the motoring public will be affected by the lifting of the subsidy on premium gas. But let us be very clear, that is on the high-end vehicles, that will be your Audis and your BMWs. So it is a very small percentage of people who will be affected and they will be the ones who will very well be able to afford to pay the extra increased price. So it will not impact upon the ordinary citizen, the middle-class citizen. It will go at the high-end motor user and we feel it is justified because we must get the revenue to carry out all these projects and that is one area in which the revenue can come in to us".

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Kam ... 17181.html


Won't be the first time the newspapers misquote someone right?


So is this price reflecting the complete removal of the fuel subsidy on premium gasoline? If so, not bad.

[rollingstock]

My humble CK4. Rubbing shoulders with Audis and BMWs according to the PM. Therefore I can afford to pay the hike. Well yes.

I guess they have no clue about high compression engines. VVL, VVT, MIVEC, VTEC unite!!

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My bad with the +98 I mentioned earlier. Dunno where I got that

Wha'm no love for the gdi folks

[toyolink]

The new Minister Of Finance clearly didn't demonstrate an ability to exercise critical thinking when it came to this particular adjustment.
A big banker and senior exe. don't have a gut feeling about being led down a flawed justification?
Why doesn't the gov't consider a regulated approach for the sale of diesel by issuing some form of licsence to qualify for subsidised prices with preference given to 'goods',public transport and heavy industrial vehicles and equiptment.This must be based on an application process with 'T' registration not facilitating automatic qualification.
Weed out the luxury liners!

[16 cycles]

think PM was pulling that 6% figure out her ....out of thin air....

in the background, technocrats hopefully would have looked at the volume of sales for premium and done the maths to help reduce the gas subsidy.....

the 43% increase in the price basically signals to super and diesel users....brace allyuh MC

[teems1]

The new Minister Of Finance clearly didn't demonstrate an ability to exercise critical thinking when it came to this particular adjustment.
A big banker and senior exe. don't have a gut feeling about being led down a flawed justification?
Why doesn't the gov't consider a regulated approach for the sale of diesel by issuing some form of licsence to qualify for subsidised prices with preference given to 'goods',public transport and heavy industrial vehicles and equiptment.This must be based on an application process with 'T' registration not facilitating automatic qualification.
Weed out the luxury liners!

this won't work in a banana republic

there will be bobol and corruption in that process

[tr1ad]

the 43% increase in the price basically signals to super and diesel users....brace allyuh MC

re think that, if diesel goes up say by 100%.... who exactly feeling the full brunt of that, not the owners of such, would be everyone else