Mountain Biking

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hey Elite I just called bike inn and spoke with the woman on the phone. I told her I might be looking for something more expensive than the $2600 Nevada 1.6

She told me they have $4000 29er Nevada 1.6 for $4000

However this bike does not exist on fuji website.
However with some google search i found it on Fuji germany website

http://germany.fujibikes.com/bike/details/nevada-29-16

your taughts?

you can probably get a cannondale for this price assuming trini rider has specials on them by the time I am ready. Normally though the Fuji are much better bang for the buck you won't get disk brake for $4k cannondale. And the fuji is same all aluminum but melt forged.

I was told the Fuji are cheaper because its assembled in Taiwan compared to cannondale which is made in USA. Though the parts are all combination of shimano/Sram and cold / melt forged aluminum alloy therefore the quality are supposed to be identical since its simply a matter of different people color skin assembling them.

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btw here is a lovely video of the Nevada 1.7 29er

[eliteauto]

actually the Trail 7 for $3900 by trinirider has disc brakes, so you're looking at components, rim difference (26 vs 29), forks (both are low end but one has lockout) brakes (Fuji is hydraulic with a larger front rotor), I'm in the same boat as you with choices and I'm now doing my research and comparisons but I'm leaning to getting the Fuji, myself and a couple of my neighbors are looking to start doing some trails in a few weeks

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actually the Trail 7 for $3900 by trinirider has disc brakes, so you're looking at components, rim difference (26 vs 29), forks (both are low end but one has lockout) brakes (Fuji is hydraulic with a larger front rotor), I'm in the same boat as you with choices and I'm now doing my research and comparisons but I'm leaning to getting the Fuji, myself and a couple of my neighbors are looking to start doing some trails in a few weeks

http://www.cannondale.com/catalog/produ ... egory/931/

Considering both are more or less the same price of $4k - $3900

in the link cannondale says nothing about the material used in many parts of the trail 7.

Fuji seems to proudly state alloy for pretty much every single thing in the 29 1.6 with the 2 rare exception of the crankset and fork.


Seat Post - Cannondale C4, 27.2x350mm

Anyone has an idea of what C4 material is? I know the fuji 1.7 is Oval brand made out of aluminum. Cannon seems to be building this C4 themselves instead of using the brand named oval.

Also very important the Fuji is Hydraulic Brake if you read specs from the link. Cannon is only mechanical, I think there is quite a big difference here.

[trinirider]

Call me 678-7080
I can do quantity discount
Cannondale lifetime warranty on frame

actually the Trail 7 for $3900 by trinirider has disc brakes, so you're looking at components, rim difference (26 vs 29), forks (both are low end but one has lockout) brakes (Fuji is hydraulic with a larger front rotor), I'm in the same boat as you with choices and I'm now doing my research and comparisons but I'm leaning to getting the Fuji, myself and a couple of my neighbors are looking to start doing some trails in a few weeks

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They does charge duty or just vat alone on mountain bikes?

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actually the Trail 7 for $3900 by trinirider has disc brakes, so you're looking at components, rim difference (26 vs 29), forks (both are low end but one has lockout) brakes (Fuji is hydraulic with a larger front rotor), I'm in the same boat as you with choices and I'm now doing my research and comparisons but I'm leaning to getting the Fuji, myself and a couple of my neighbors are looking to start doing some trails in a few weeks

Read this

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index ... 319AAlRX3g

scroll down and read the comments. Most of the responses say the Fuji have much better components from shifters to fork to hydraulic disk brake

Note there is no mention of true aluminum alloy components on the Trail 7.

Seems its obvious if you want the best then you go cannon but at this price bracket the Fuji is light years ahead of the Cannon for the same price. You got to pay for that USA minimum wage, Fuji is owned by an American company I think but its made in Taiwan however none of this matters since its all 3rd party parts from shimano etc.

the only thing Cannon and Fuji actually making themselves is the frame which don't really count at this price bracket and both are aluminum anyways.

[cacasplat3]

lower end cannondale bikes are made in Taiwan.....nothing new there....infact the majority of brand name bikes now are made in Taiwan.....with the exception of a couple models, the majority of cannondale, pinarello, cervelo, bmc, trek and giant bikes are made in Taiwan....name the brand and i'm pretty sure something comes from there.....my Ibis came from Taiwan, and so did my cannondale....I knew that before buying both of them, still no regrets.
my rock shox reverb and thomson dropper seatposts both are made in Taiwan. the rock shox was the biggest mistake i made, the internet is full of horror stories......the thomson has been issue free and absolutely fantastic. point is, its not "where" its made.....its "how".

if i was you, i'd buy the cannondale, hydraulic disc brakes are better than mechanical, but as a beginner, you dont "need" them to be hydraulic. i rode almost 4 years with mechanical disc before getting hydraulic on a new bike.
besides, a lifetime warranty on the frame is worth more than a couple lower spec components that you can upgrade for a few dollars later on.

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What you say is true about brakes in fact even cheapo v brake can easily drag tiers. This isn't about that though. From research the Fuji hydraulic version. For $4k is vastly superior to the cannon for $3900

Its true we don't need a lot of things in life on the whole but Come on that's like saying you can spend the same money on a Lexus vs a aluminum rolls Royce for the same price.

The cannon being the Lexus and the Fuji being the rolls Royce. Yeah u eh need the rolls but its just a way better buy for the price.

Is not just the brakes either. The Fuji has a bunch of expensive melt and cold forged aluminum alloy parts from OVAL. Comparing specs vs specs the Fuji is way ahead of cannon at this price bracket.

But yeah once u crossing $12k the cannon will own everyone. Fuji isn't targeting that market so much though they aiming for mid range and entry level and they seem to have cannon beaten at this level.

[trinibajan34]

^ hence the reason i went fuji , warranty sucks but i got what i wanted in my price bracket fuji 1.5 26er

[trinirider]

Based on what you said you want to do I would recommend the Adventure 3
your not going offroad riding 4 miles to work flat terrain.

Buy a bike based on your needs and not hydraulic vs mech etc.

Cannondale = lifetime warranty also crash replacement policy if you damage your frame
you can purchase a frame at considerable discounted price

I have used this for several customers with entry level bikes to ultra high end
damaged their frame when they crashed they were able to purchased new frame
way below regular price.

What you say is true about brakes in fact even cheapo v brake can easily drag tiers. This isn't about that though. From research the Fuji hydraulic version. For $4k is vastly superior to the cannon for $3900

Its true we don't need a lot of things in life on the whole but Come on that's like saying you can spend the same money on a Lexus vs a aluminum rolls Royce for the same price.

The cannon being the Lexus and the Fuji being the rolls Royce. Yeah u eh need the rolls but its just a way better buy for the price.

Is not just the brakes either. The Fuji has a bunch of expensive melt and cold forged aluminum alloy parts from OVAL. Comparing specs vs specs the Fuji is way ahead of cannon at this price bracket.

But yeah once u crossing $12k the cannon will own everyone. Fuji isn't targeting that market so much though they aiming for mid range and entry level and they seem to have cannon beaten at this level.

[Dragular]

^ hence the reason i went fuji , warranty sucks but i got what i wanted in my price bracket fuji 1.5 26er

same reason i went fuji myself. I got the 1.7 nevada for a good price and i hit the trails in chagramas for a year now and the bike performs excellent. Takes a beating and has not broken yet. Only serviced brakes so far and went with a more aggressive tyre from maxxis. Frame is really light and the kind of riding i do and not to mention some falls where i let the bike go over a cliff and nothing broken or bent. Quality is very high.

[trinibajan34]

^ hence the reason i went fuji , warranty sucks but i got what i wanted in my price bracket fuji 1.5 26er

same reason i went fuji myself. I got the 1.7 nevada for a good price and i hit the trails in chagramas for a year now and the bike performs excellent. Takes a beating and has not broken yet. Only serviced brakes so far and went with a more aggressive tyre from maxxis. Frame is really light and the kind of riding i do and not to mention some falls where i let the bike go over a cliff and nothing broken or bent. Quality is very high.

Do you still go up there ?

[Mini]

How important is frame size and geometry? Seems more and more manufacturers are going with 29's in their main lineup. Based on my height of 161cm, it's tough finding a bike with a relatively low standover height.

Cannondale doesn't offer XS sizes. Even in the women's frames the lowest standover is 30.0".

By comparison, Specialized offers 28.5" and 27.0" standover on the Hardrock 26's. Trek offers 27.6" and 28.4" standover heights on the 4 series (4300, 4500, etc.) frames.

[cacasplat3]

in my opinion, standover is not as important as people make it out to be when fitting a bike. there is a safety factory, but its not the be all and end all....i've seen people tell customers stand over a bike....and they they say thats ok and sell it to them.....no ride around on the bike, nothing.....
reach and inseam measurements, for proper pedalling efficiency, comfort and control are more important.
i suggest you use this tool:
http://www.competitivecyclist.com/Store ... orBike.jsp

[Porn Star]

So last week saturday I was at the trails in chaguaramas with some friends, and was leading the pack when on a corner my front tyre slid out resulting in a fabulous crash.
Luckily nothing was broken except my ego. Front wheel got a slight bend and went flat.
Had to walk out of South Bank.
Was called Crash Test Dummy for the rest of the day.
Had a great time. Mountain Bike = best investment ever.

[Porn Star]

Liking this
http://www.nsmb.com/2014-santa-cruz-5010-carbon/

[crash dummy]

So last week saturday I was at the trails in chaguaramas with some friends, and was leading the pack when on a corner my front tyre slid out resulting in a fabulous crash.
Luckily nothing was broken except my ego. Front wheel got a slight bend and went flat.
Had to walk out of South Bank.
Was called Crash Test Dummy for the rest of the day.
Had a great time. Mountain Bike = best investment ever.

I now checking you jump off motorbike to fall on trail bikes
That name patented eh!
Long time no see..

[Porn Star]

Yeah Rico. For real. Giving the Motorbikes a rest, although I have to go on Ducati's Website at least once a day to gape at the Paginale 1199R.
How you doing? Get a MTB and come join us.

[trinibajan34]

hey pornie are you going down there tomorrow? i'm back out now but my fitness level has dropped really bad due to my accident.

[VK-Sportsman]

Finally got a white wheelset
WTB LaserDisc Freeride rims on Deore M525 hubs laced with DTswiss spokes. Somewhere in this thread I posted about the SunRingle MTX33 + SLX M665 hubs. Well at least I still have 6-bolt (reused my rotors and cassette for now) and word has it the WTB Freeride rims can take abuse. Although I won't be abusing at all

On the topic of the low end Shimano Deore M525 hub (16poe) , there are a lot of negative reviews of the free hub failing. The M756 Deore XT free hub body is supposed to be a direct replacement and stronger (18poe also). Will try this mod as I have 2 wheel sets now with M525 hubs.

Why I didn't go with DTswiss , Hope or Chris King hubs (or Mavic wheel set)?......Shimano Cup & cone is much cheaper, and if you like to service them yourself, they should last a long while. Also keep calm and ride , and there will be a lesser chance you break them.

[cacasplat3]

i still have my cheap shimano hubs on the cannondale....serviced them a couple times, but with enough practice its easy, but i still hate to do it.

anybody interested in a tuesday evening ride in chauaramas?
been a while since i took the ibis out.

[Porn Star]

Trinibajan, sorry boss. Now saw your message. Yup. We went down to the trails yesterday at 3 pm.

[trinibajan34]

how that evening ride does be ?

[cacasplat3]

anybody up for a weekday ride in chaguaramas? any day except Wednesday

[VK-Sportsman]

I'm out till the weekend before Christmas, that weekday ride sounds good though, less trail traffic.

[cacasplat3]

i go back to work on the 2nd of december....wont be back out till feb, so i want to get a ride in before i leave.....would be nice to see the other tuner's bikes......

[trinibajan34]

going in the morning once weather permits.look out for the red and black fuji

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I thinking of getting a bike but also mounting a gas motor on it like this

But what happens if a police catches you?

only way might be to silence the engine somehow and disguise it and when you see police turn it off.
I just want something to beat the traffic and not worry about illegal parking. One of these gas bikes seem to do the trick

[cacasplat3]

it needs to be registered once it has its own means of propulsion, this includes electric bikes. in the long run, it might be cheaper to get a 50cc scooter (honda ruckus, yamaha zuma etc.), and they are much much cheaper than you think.