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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

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Postby shogun » January 1st, 2021, 10:56 pm

Republicans in the Senate have all the money to spare for corporations and donors, but none to help average working Americans.

All of a sudden the "socialism" and debt/deficit talk makes an appearance again, even though they just had a 4 year run of unprecedented spending. Curious thing. Corporate socialism is the only good socialism. And McConnell playing ghoulish smartman by trying to give corporations immunity from Covid related lawsuits, has to be the cherry on the sh!tcake, while bread line's longer than ever and people really getting hit hard by this thing. Mitch is a shameless beatout corporate slut at this point. .. he doh even care any longer.

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Postby adnj » January 2nd, 2021, 8:04 am

shogun wrote:Republicans in the Senate have all the money to spare for corporations and donors, but none to help average working Americans.

All of a sudden the "socialism" and debt/deficit talk makes an appearance again, even though they just had a 4 year run of unprecedented spending. Curious thing. Corporate socialism is the only good socialism. And McConnell playing ghoulish smartman by trying to give corporations immunity from Covid related lawsuits, has to be the cherry on the sh!tcake, while bread line's longer than ever and people really getting hit hard by this thing. Mitch is a shameless beatout corporate slut at this point. .. he doh even care any longer.


$2000 stimulus payments were shot down. $600 stimulus payments and $300 per week unemployment payment increases were signed into law two days prior.

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby shogun » January 2nd, 2021, 10:27 pm

^I'm aware. Was more commenting on the wranglings that got them there.

Thing is McConnell and other Senate Republicans were against any second round of direct relief payments at all. As a matter of fact McConnell wasn't even present in any ongoing negotiations, because he knew he was never going to allow it to be brought to the floor. It was not going to happen. What changed his mind though was the general election and Biden's success in Georgia in particular and how that success would affect the now imminent run offs and elections of Loeffler and Perdue, which holds the balance of his power in the outcome. In fact, the New York Times reported that in private calls, McConnell described Sens. Kelly Loeffler and David Perdue — the GOP's candidates in the Georgia runoff elections — as "getting hammered" over an initial lack of GOP support for additional stimulus checks. So it was pure political calculation over genuine concern for constituents. Worse still is the fact that a one time $600 payment and/or a $300 per week payment increase (for those that fit the criteria) is but a couple drops in the bucket for people that were in financial limbo for months... and just how starkly different the response is from McConnell and Senate Republicans, when corporations or Republican donors beckon for help that they don't need?

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

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Postby adnj » January 3rd, 2021, 8:11 am

shogun wrote:^I'm aware. Was more commenting on the wranglings that got them there.

Thing is McConnell and other Senate Republicans were against any second round of direct relief payments at all. As a matter of fact McConnell wasn't even present in any ongoing negotiations, because he knew he was never going to allow it to be brought to the floor. It was not going to happen. What changed his mind though was the general election and Biden's success in Georgia in particular and how that success would affect the now imminent run offs and elections of Loeffler and Perdue, which holds the balance of his power in the outcome. In fact, the New York Times reported that in private calls, McConnell described Sens. Kelly Loeffler and David Perdue — the GOP's candidates in the Georgia runoff elections — as "getting hammered" over an initial lack of GOP support for additional stimulus checks. So it was pure political calculation over genuine concern for constituents. Worse still is the fact that a one time $600 payment and/or a $300 per week payment increase (for those that fit the criteria) is but a couple drops in the bucket for people that were in financial limbo for months... and just how starkly different the response is from McConnell and Senate Republicans, when corporations or Republican donors beckon for help that they don't need?


Your points regarding the long term fortunes of their voters and constituents may certainly be valid but from the voting results, the Republican Party seems to be doing what those same people seem to believe is in their own best interest.

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Postby sMASH » January 3rd, 2021, 8:35 am

them people should go out and protest all the reps and senators that voted against or holding back the 2k payments.

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President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.

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Postby RoTaRyBoYz » January 3rd, 2021, 8:29 pm


I think it’ll be naive to say that there are no irregularities in GA. Some things makes no sense mathematically per these experts yet no one from GA election board can explain it.

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

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RoTaRyBoYz wrote:I think it’ll be naive to say that there are no irregularities in GA. Some things makes no sense mathematically per these experts yet no one from GA election board can explain it.


The U.S. National Institute of Standards and Technology publishes a specification that every machine and manufacturer must meet to prevent the computational errors that have been alleged.

In fact, Georgia reported that the cause of the early incorrect vote tallies prior to the polls clośing on election day was incorrect use of the equipment.

Once corrected, the revised tally was in agreement with the state mandated recount and the candidate requested recounted. The votes were counted three times, twice by hand, and all were in agreement.

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Postby shogun » January 3rd, 2021, 10:50 pm

NTD? lol

The voting apparatus wholly corrupt all of a sudden because they can't handle the results. Apparently the 2016 election apparatus was corruption free, because I don't remember a peep from them? Also funny how all the "questionable" results are in the states that Trump lost. These people can't be helped. The guy is openly calling for an undemocratic, unconstitutional coup yet they blindly follow. Saddest sh!t ever to watch. These folks are dangers to democracy.


adnj wrote:but from the voting results, the Republican Party seems to be doing what those same people seem to believe is in their own best interest.


lol

Reminds me of the Republican party's initial constant Covid denial, only to read account after account after account by ER staff, of Covid denying/anti masker patients still saying they don't believe in the virus as they're struggling to breathe and dying. Sometimes your elected officials and representatives pretending to be doing what's in their supporters "best interest" is actually in direct contradiction to what actually is. Leadership is sacrificing political aspirations and another possible term in office to save the lives of countrymen. Just my opinion.

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby De Dragon » January 3rd, 2021, 11:14 pm

shogun wrote:NTD? lol

The voting apparatus wholly corrupt all of a sudden because they can't handle the results. Apparently the 2016 election apparatus was corruption free, because I don't remember a peep from them? Also funny how all the "questionable" results were in the states that Trump lost. These people can't be helped. The guy is openly calling for an undemocratic, unconstitutional coup yet they blindly follow. Saddest sh!t ever to watch. These folks are dangers to democracy.


adnj wrote:but from the voting results, the Republican Party seems to be doing what those same people seem to believe is in their own best interest.


lol

Reminds me of the Republican party's initial constant Covid denial, only to read account after account after account by ER staff, of Covid denying/anti masker patients still saying they don't believe in the virus as they're struggling to breathe and dying. Sometimes your elected officials and representatives pretending to be doing what's in their supporters "best interest" is actually in direct contradiction to what actually is. Leadership is sacrificing political aspirations and another possible term in office to save the lives of countrymen. Just my opinion.

These twits like Hawley,Cruz,Johnson etc, plan to challenge the EC vote confirmation in the House on Jan. 6th. Even McConnell is denouncing this move, but his interest may be more self serving as the Georgia runoffs are uppermost in his mind, and the split in the party is not going to help.

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby adnj » January 4th, 2021, 7:10 am

shogun wrote:NTD? lol

The voting apparatus wholly corrupt all of a sudden because they can't handle the results. Apparently the 2016 election apparatus was corruption free, because I don't remember a peep from them? Also funny how all the "questionable" results are in the states that Trump lost. These people can't be helped. The guy is openly calling for an undemocratic, unconstitutional coup yet they blindly follow. Saddest sh!t ever to watch. These folks are dangers to democracy.


adnj wrote:but from the voting results, the Republican Party seems to be doing what those same people seem to believe is in their own best interest.


lol

Reminds me of the Republican party's initial constant Covid denial, only to read account after account after account by ER staff, of Covid denying/anti masker patients still saying they don't believe in the virus as they're struggling to breathe and dying. Sometimes your elected officials and representatives pretending to be doing what's in their supporters "best interest" is actually in direct contradiction to what actually is. Leadership is sacrificing political aspirations and another possible term in office to save the lives of countrymen. Just my opinion.


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Postby Dizzy28 » January 5th, 2021, 1:09 pm

Georgia Senate runoffs today.

Control of the Senate can significantly help Biden for at least 2 years.

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Postby The_Honourable » January 5th, 2021, 3:05 pm

Yep... if republicans take it Mitch McConnell going for total lock down. Nothing from the house is going to reach the President's desk.

It will also be a good time for Dems to bring legislation knowing for sure it will fail and use as fodder for mid-terms 2022.

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby pete » January 5th, 2021, 3:15 pm

Heh, $2000 checks will be approved one time along with decriminalisation of marijuana across the country. (Both passed in congress) if the Dems win.

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Postby teems1 » January 5th, 2021, 3:22 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:Georgia Senate runoffs today.

Control of the Senate can significantly help Biden for at least 2 years.


Understatement of the year.

Moscow Mitch will be a massive thorn in the side of Biden. Every bill the house approves currently on his desk.

Having a democratic majority senate would bring back some semblance of stability.

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Postby shogun » January 5th, 2021, 8:52 pm

^Iz still Georgia though. Coming off the anger of Trump's loss... they voting anything with that "R" before their name. Might still be an uphill climb for Dems.

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby MaxPower » January 5th, 2021, 9:10 pm

Friends,

Just to confirm, this is really it for Commander Trump right?

I believe in miracles but, just want to know if to finally let go and accept reality...

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Postby Les Bain » January 5th, 2021, 10:01 pm

MaxPower wrote:Friends,

Just to confirm, this is really it for Commander Trump right?

I believe in miracles but, just want to know if to finally let go and accept reality...


Seems so 8-)
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Postby pete » January 5th, 2021, 10:59 pm

Only possible way is for a coup and to call that a miracle..

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Postby shogun » January 5th, 2021, 11:40 pm

LOL!!

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Postby The_Honourable » January 6th, 2021, 12:26 am

Steupz...


Georgia Senate runoff election may not be known for several days

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Postby adnj » January 6th, 2021, 4:12 am

Warnock win puts Democrats on the brink of Senate control
The second Georgia Senate runoff between Republican incumbent David Perdue and Democrat Jon Ossoff remains uncalled.

ATLANTA — Democrats are on the cusp of taking the Senate majority after Rev. Raphael Warnock won his special election runoff in Georgia Tuesday night, defeating GOP Sen. Kelly Loeffler as Georgia’s other Republican senator remains locked in a too-close-to-call runoff.

Warnock is the first Black Democrat to win election to the Senate from a Southern state and will be just the 11th Black senator in history, prevailing in the most closely divided state of the 2020 election after hundreds of millions of dollars were spent in a divisive campaign.

But Democrats need to sweep both Georgia runoffs to take control of a 50-50 Senate once Vice President-elect Kamala Harris assumes her tiebreaking role later this month. The other race between Republican incumbent David Perdue and Democrat Jon Ossoff remained too close to call early Wednesday morning, with Ossoff in the lead by just a few thousand votes.

Loeffler was appointed to the Senate a year ago to replace former GOP Sen. Johnny Isakson, who resigned due to health reasons. Warnock, the senior pastor at the historic Ebenezer Baptist Church in Atlanta, will serve the remaining two years of that term but will have to run for reelection to a full term in 2022.

Republicans are seeking to preserve their foothold on power in Washington for the next two years after President Donald Trump lost the White House in November. The GOP’s hopes for retaining control of the Senate now hinge on Perdue defeating Ossoff.

Warnock delivered celebratory remarks and declared victory over Loeffler after midnight, as he led by less than a percentage point.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/0 ... ace-455148

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Postby viedcht » January 6th, 2021, 6:08 am

Woke up to some hopeful news^

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Postby shogun » January 6th, 2021, 6:08 am

^Dudes, just woke up and glanced at the news. Still in disbelief. Would pay a months salary to see Mitch face right now.

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Postby adnj » January 6th, 2021, 7:39 pm

Ossoff scores victory over Perdue in Senate runoff

The win clinches control of the chamber for the Democratic Party.

Democrat Jon Ossoff has defeated Republican David Perdue in the remaining Georgia Senate race — clinching control of the chamber for his party after fellow Democrat Raphael Warnock triumphed in the state’s other runoff election.

Ossoff, an investigative journalist and former congressional candidate, had 50.3 percent of the vote to Perdue’s 49.7 percent when The Associated Press called the race on Wednesday, with 98 percent of precincts reporting.

https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2021/ ... off-455596

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » January 6th, 2021, 9:46 pm

Twitter says Trump’s account is locked, and he’s facing a ban

Three tweets contained ‘severe’ policy violations

Twitter is locking President Donald Trump’s account for 12 hours after removing three tweets that contained “repeated and severe violations” of its civic integrity policy. It says the account will be permanently suspended if violations continue, and it will not be unlocked unless Trump entirely deletes the three offending tweets. The decision comes after Trump tweeted a video that Twitter said posed a “risk of violence.”

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Postby shogun » January 6th, 2021, 11:50 pm

^Damn.

adnj wrote:Ossoff scores victory over Perdue in Senate runoff

The win clinches control of the chamber for the Democratic Party.

Democrat Jon Ossoff has defeated Republican David Perdue in the remaining Georgia Senate race — clinching control of the chamber for his party after fellow Democrat Raphael Warnock triumphed in the state’s other runoff election.

Ossoff, an investigative journalist and former congressional candidate, had 50.3 percent of the vote to Perdue’s 49.7 percent when The Associated Press called the race on Wednesday, with 98 percent of precincts reporting.

https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2021/ ... off-455596



Still in shock over this sweep. Abrams' work in the state needs to be the roadmap for Dems going forward. I was sure Ossoff and Warnock would come close (which is surprising enough) but never thought they would actually take these senate races. Well done.

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