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Re: Underwater welders missing in the Gulf of Paria??

Postby matr1x » March 13th, 2022, 8:21 am

Just imagine how many untold accidents happened at paria.....

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Re: Underwater welders missing in the Gulf of Paria??

Postby gastly369 » March 13th, 2022, 8:37 am

matr1x wrote:Just imagine how many untold accidents happened at paria.....
Alot... Heritage also

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Re: Underwater welders missing in the Gulf of Paria??

Postby pugboy » March 13th, 2022, 8:41 am

the survivor say in express he qualified with padi
seems the recreational qualified diver was more lucky than the ones with commercial cert

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Re: Underwater welders missing in the Gulf of Paria??

Postby matr1x » March 13th, 2022, 8:44 am

Paria splitting hairs. What is their excuse for taking so long?

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Re: Underwater welders missing in the Gulf of Paria??

Postby The_Honourable » March 13th, 2022, 12:48 pm

Reading that story was... wow...

The hard part is that Boodram promised dem fellas that he will get help, only to realize Paria write dem off. What made it worse is that if the rescue divers didn't defy orders, Boodram would have been dead too. He will have to live with that trauma.

damn...

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Re: Underwater welders missing in the Gulf of Paria??

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » March 13th, 2022, 1:15 pm

The_Honourable wrote:Reading that story was... wow...

This

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Re: Underwater welders missing in the Gulf of Paria??

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » March 13th, 2022, 1:31 pm

Interesting to see the outcome of the COE after hearing the account of the survivor. Tbh, I write off any investigation, enquiry etc after reading that and I ready to offload criminal charges!!!!!

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Re: Underwater welders missing in the Gulf of Paria??

Postby MaxPower » March 13th, 2022, 5:16 pm

Wow

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Re: Underwater welders missing in the Gulf of Paria??

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » March 13th, 2022, 5:33 pm

OSHA Prohibits Subsea Maintenance Work, Diving Operations At Paria Fuel Trading Company

Paria Fuel Trading Company Limited and LMCS Limited have both been issued Prohibition Notices by the Occupational Safety and Health Agency with respect to subsea maintenance works and diving operations respectively.

The Agency said: “Pursuant to the Prohibition Notice Paria must stop all subsea maintenance works with immediate effect until the existing danger is removed and it has complied with the OSH Act and an approved standard. Likewise, all diving operations by LMCS Limited have also been prohibited with immediate effect until the existing danger identified in the notice is removed and it (LMCS) has complied with the OSH Act and an approved standard."


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Re: Underwater welders missing in the Gulf of Paria??

Postby Redman » March 13th, 2022, 5:41 pm

CNC is carrying a "report" from some OSHA guy, that is throwing LMCS under the bus.

https://www.cnc3.co.tt/paria-lmcs-misma ... protocols/

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Re: Underwater welders missing in the Gulf of Paria??

Postby Dizzy28 » March 13th, 2022, 6:57 pm

Anyone knows why Rhoda taking up the cause against the divers so aggressively?

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Re: Underwater welders missing in the Gulf of Paria??

Postby sMASH » March 13th, 2022, 7:02 pm

Even if paria not responsible for providing rescue team+ equipment, if it was a requirement for the job, then they could not issue SAFE WORK permits, seeing as how it wasn't SAFE TO WORK.

lmcs AND paria have to take blame.


CG personnel responsible for threatening gun violence to the reduce effort and those that instructed such, should be charged with some sort of murder charges.

Those that decided to prevent the divers from reduce and capped off the pipe, need murder charges too.






5 men got into difficulty because of unsafe work practices NOT up to industry standard.
4 men Were killed because rescue was interrupted and prevented.

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Re: Underwater welders missing in the Gulf of Paria??

Postby timelapse » March 13th, 2022, 7:05 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:Anyone knows why Rhoda taking up the cause against the divers so aggressively?
Because she wake up, watch in the mirror and realized she is a cnut and there's nothing anyone can do to fix that

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Re: Underwater welders missing in the Gulf of Paria??

Postby K74T » March 13th, 2022, 7:14 pm

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Re: Underwater welders missing in the Gulf of Paria??

Postby bluefete » March 13th, 2022, 7:17 pm

TV6 news had the diver who went in saying that the 4 men were alive when he came up.

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Re: Underwater welders missing in the Gulf of Paria??

Postby timelapse » March 13th, 2022, 8:10 pm

Paria trying to control the narrative since the beginning, except their story not making sense.
The survivor guy story is the most plausible.

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Re: Underwater welders missing in the Gulf of Paria??

Postby pugboy » March 13th, 2022, 8:17 pm

that’s what bloggers do

they take a slant to garner social media follows and hope to make it big

it’s not necessarily a stance based on some sinister motive
It’s working for her, her live vids have around 1k viewers
Pea and inshan lucky if they get half of that

Dizzy28 wrote:Anyone knows why Rhoda taking up the cause against the divers so aggressively?

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Re: Underwater welders missing in the Gulf of Paria??

Postby sMASH » March 13th, 2022, 8:31 pm

She should rename she show, 'pnm story time'

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Re: Underwater welders missing in the Gulf of Paria??

Postby Chimera » March 13th, 2022, 8:33 pm

timelapse wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:Anyone knows why Rhoda taking up the cause against the divers so aggressively?
Because she wake up, watch in the mirror and realized she is a cnut and there's nothing anyone can do to fix that
One might say bharat gets paid to support whatever narrative the PNM tells her to push. And gets paid for it

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Re: Underwater welders missing in the Gulf of Paria??

Postby pugboy » March 13th, 2022, 8:35 pm

I waiting for her talk to start how lmcs using divers with recreational certification

Although paria should take blame for hiring a company to do commercial danger work with divers who aren’t certified to do that work.

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Re: Underwater welders missing in the Gulf of Paria??

Postby The_Honourable » March 13th, 2022, 8:50 pm

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Remember she deals in communications and will get leaks from links in the government and public service. Paria/Energy Ministry/State needs someone to counter Phillip, Inshan, OWTU, etc on social media especially with this incident.

Rhoda is attempting to discredit the divers, rescuers and the lone survivor by using their statements from videos, papers etc against them, making heavy insinuations creating a narrative that put them and LMCS fully in the wrong. She stops short of making statements herself that would land her in legal trouble. The pro-government supporters on her page will "decipher" and state what she means without correcting them. She can then say that it is not her that make those statements and "just reading what in d papers or see on the news".

Obvious deception and propaganda at play.

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Re: Underwater welders missing in the Gulf of Paria??

Postby teems1 » March 13th, 2022, 11:40 pm

All those trying to make it political should eff off.

This is a simple case of what should happen in the event X occurring. In this case X being a catastrophic failure of the chamber and divers being sucked in.

What caused the failure of the chamber?

With respect to the rescue, did events follow as expected? Why not? Timeline everything then go from there.

Everyone calling it murder or incompetence only raises emotions. Let's find out who followed policy and who didn't.

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Re: Underwater welders missing in the Gulf of Paria??

Postby Redman » March 14th, 2022, 12:34 am

Everything has to be political.

Read posts from the start.
Smh

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Re: Underwater welders missing in the Gulf of Paria??

Postby pugboy » March 14th, 2022, 6:47 am

a good example of the saying, hindsight is always 20/20

from the start, more than one person in the industry has questioned why they were using scuba gear

teems1 wrote:All those trying to make it political should eff off.

This is a simple case of what should happen in the event X occurring. In this case X being a catastrophic failure of the chamber and divers being sucked in.

What caused the failure of the chamber?

With respect to the rescue, did events follow as expected? Why not? Timeline everything then go from there.

Everyone calling it murder or incompetence only raises emotions. Let's find out who followed policy and who didn't.

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Re: Underwater welders missing in the Gulf of Paria??

Postby teems1 » March 14th, 2022, 9:38 am

pugboy wrote:a good example of the saying, hindsight is always 20/20

from the start, more than one person in the industry has questioned why they were using scuba gear

teems1 wrote:All those trying to make it political should eff off.

This is a simple case of what should happen in the event X occurring. In this case X being a catastrophic failure of the chamber and divers being sucked in.

What caused the failure of the chamber?

With respect to the rescue, did events follow as expected? Why not? Timeline everything then go from there.

Everyone calling it murder or incompetence only raises emotions. Let's find out who followed policy and who didn't.


This isn't even hindsight.

This is simply incident reporting and assessment.


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Re: Underwater welders missing in the Gulf of Paria??

Postby sMASH » March 14th, 2022, 1:10 pm

teems1 wrote:
pugboy wrote:a good example of the saying, hindsight is always 20/20

from the start, more than one person in the industry has questioned why they were using scuba gear

teems1 wrote:All those trying to make it political should eff off.

This is a simple case of what should happen in the event X occurring. In this case X being a catastrophic failure of the chamber and divers being sucked in.

What caused the failure of the chamber?

With respect to the rescue, did events follow as expected? Why not? Timeline everything then go from there.

Everyone calling it murder or incompetence only raises emotions. Let's find out who followed policy and who didn't.


This isn't even hindsight.

This is simply incident reporting and assessment.
They didn't get into difficulty because of the scuba gear, they got into difficulty because of the sudden vacuum in the line,,, aka delta p.

Scuba or supplied airay not have made a difference.

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Re: Underwater welders missing in the Gulf of Paria??

Postby pugboy » March 14th, 2022, 2:09 pm

this whole incident is a perfect snapshot of how things in the country operate in general all around

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Re: Underwater welders missing in the Gulf of Paria??

Postby toyolink » March 14th, 2022, 2:11 pm

The lack of laws, standards and regulations coupled with an almost non-existence of enforcement authorities is sadly part of our national landscape.
We have never really installed support operating conditions to protect our people in the performance of their duties across the board.
Our development condition has not moved past the imperative of making 'a dollar' to the next level which addresses the need to provide adequate security and other wellness concerns.
Actually Covid19 demanded that employee security and wellness be placed front and center to ensure our continuity and the verdict on how we performed is unclear.
Where a country exist on the development curve is in someways defined by the observations made here and when some controversial commentator call our place backward this may not be without some truth.
Even our courts have proven to be unable to properly determine awards for successful civil actions and in some case the awards may be less than the legal fees, workmens compensation is a whole other story.

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Re: Underwater welders missing in the Gulf of Paria??

Postby MaxPower » March 14th, 2022, 2:15 pm

pugboy wrote:this whole incident is a perfect snapshot of how Trinis in the country operate in general all around


Corrected

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