.::The Official Nokia Thread::.

[original_lollybob]

Hopefully a few million ppl...

[Ronaldo95163]

It aint gonna be me

[firstchoicett]

Not me I ent wasting meh money on that shiet

[original_lollybob]

^
it really aint sheit tho

[Ronaldo95163]

808 rel baddup but I won't pay so much for it....i'd rather get the N8 with FP1 or the 801 that's supposed to be coming out soon....

[firstchoicett]

I glad with my Sony cybershot .

[original_lollybob]

I'm Lumia'd for a few years...

but with Windows Phone 8 soon and Nokia tech driving handsets... Microsoft and Nokia are gonna be sitting pretty again soon

[firstchoicett]

I'm Lumia'd for a few years...

but with Windows Phone 8 soon and Nokia tech driving handsets... Microsoft and Nokia are gonna be sitting pretty again soon

Maybe in a few years right now IOS and android only getting better.

[original_lollybob]

well they both kinna have an epic head start eh

8 - 10% market share by year end?

no 2 spot behind the robot in 3 - 5 years?

[firstchoicett]

we will just have to wait and see.

You remember the days when Nokia rule the world?

They had something going real nice with the N-Series Then it just crash AFTER iPhone came out.

[ismithx]

yes dread i tired tell people that. they tried to reinvent symbian so many times, i saw their invetable demise as their market share declined. before the iphone they were the #1 you know... and with good reason

[Ronaldo95163]

[trini mk5]

I have a padner who bought the s3...so i tell him im going to buy the lumia 900, so he tells me dont buy that because the screen resolution is not as good as the s3. So i say well true the s3 has a higher pixel density but that not all there is to a phone. He is saying a hi res screen is what people want in a phone now bla bla. He is saying wait for the new windows os and see what it brings, which is not a bad idea. BUT he would only buy that phone because of screen durability, thats it.

Now my take on this, is that while android may be a a good platform, its real selling points are the gimmicks and thats what the proverbial trinidadian likes.
I have used most systems on the market currently, from s1,s2,notes,iphones (HAD 2) symbians, belles and i find myself not totally impressed with the android or ios.

Android layouts looks too cartoonish to me and the phones feel cheap in comparison to iphones or nokias with plain jane looks and and ios is really nice but their software is too restrictive out the box. Im going back with nokia once more and see how this new windows software works. I hear its really nice and some say it could be better.Its such a shame that nokia didnt push the meego platform more, but i guess they know what they were doing.
Im not one to run down the best of everything. Not having the highest pixel density screen on the market to me is not a big issue, once it looks good like an iphone 4s thats fine. Dont really need 1080p video, 720 can work. 8MP camera is good enough once it has auto-focus and good level of detail. Im a photographer so a phone camera is still a joke compared to a real dslr.
Any lumia 900 or even 800 user out there, who can shed some light on windows mango experience so far?

[Ronaldo95163]

original_lollybob could advise you WRT WP7 and the 800

WRT android.....it's just eye candy

[kurpal_v2]

e but their software is too restrictive out the box.

I agree, my only grudge with iOS is the fact I can't do as I please without some sort of work around.

[original_lollybob]

Android to mango is like chalk and cheese.. (can't comment on jellybean tho)

Fanboys on both iOS and android will shoot down the relative low specs of the lumia line (and other manufacturers) and they will shoot down the lack of apps

As a regular normal user, there is nothing an iOS or android device can do that my lumia can't do equally well or a lot of times better!

Plus the lumia 800 and 900 are the best looking phones out there...

Now if ure gonna buy a Lumia now... Well u have wee bit of a problem to deal with... MS announced wp8 will not be coming to current devices, that basically makes your brand new phone semi obsolete as soon as u buy it..

We will be getting some features of wp8 in an update called wp7.8 but nobody knows what functionality we get outside of the new (and supremely awesome) start screen.

But 8 won't drop till October or so, the lumia 800 is a sexy beast and it stands toe to toe with most high spec devices.

I'm typing his from my iPad and it's taken me like 5 mins to do eh... Geez... Shoulda used the lumia instead

[trini mk5]

^^actually now read through some of the comments on the lumia 800 on gsm arena, but this user put an interesting list of things that the lumia 800 doesn't do
and i quote,
"hi friend do you try it to your lumia smartphone or socialmedia phone..
OS LIMITATIONS
1. No true multitasking for 3rd party apps -
they re frozen in the background.
2. No Divx/Xvid video codec support. Zune
will convert with loss of quality.
3. No mass storage mode.
4. No micro-SD card support.
5. Only support up to 16GB storage .
6. No filemanager. Directory system is totally
opaque.
7. Need Zune to transfer files. Zune will only
transfer photos, videos & music. All other
files need to email/upload to yourself.
8. Your contact details are automatically
uploaded to cloud service whether you like it
or not.
9. Limited to 800x480 resolution.
10. Voice search is hardwired to Bing.
11. Cannot use any MP3 file as ringtone
except those with strict constraints.
12. Cannot set static IP address so no
connection to ad-hoc networks.
13. No VPN support for this �corporate
enterprise� phone.
14. Cannot sync with Outlook.
15. Totally closed OS, cannot sideload apps
outside MS Marketplace.
16. System font size cannot be changed.
17. Images and photos cannot be renamed in
the phone.
18. Windows Live ID account cannot change
country once set.
19. No centralized notification page.
20. Alarm clock cannot work when phone is
turned off. All Nokia Symbian and Meego
phones can do this.
21. The idle screen is completely blank and
cannot display time or notifications.
22. Only photos allowed as email
attachments, documents not allowed.
23. Bluetooth cannot stream to car audio
devices (no rSAP).
24. Cannot stream audio from video to
Bluetooth devices (No A2DP).
25. No support for full on-device encryption
required for secure applications like mobile
banking and online payment.
26. Cannot use Bluetooth keyboard.
27. Cannot silence ringtone or alarm by
flipping the phone.
28. Very limited customization option.
29. Ugly 2D flat interface. Oversized fonts
for headings treat you like an idiot.
USABILITY ISSUES
30. No always visible status bar for battery
life, signal strength, carrier, 2G/3G wi-fi,
Bluetooth on.
31. Taskmanager has no option to shut down
apps you don�t want running in the
background.
32. Search and Back button cannot be de-
activated in apps or games and easily
touched by accident which interrupt your
user experience.
33. Lockscreen need to be activated to show
missed call/sms notification.
34. No way to close an app except pressing
back button all the way to the first screen.
35. Tiny fonts in messages is very hard to
read for those over 45.
36. Cannot edit playlist or create new
playlists from phone.
37. Cannot delete a song from phone.
38. Cannot search your music collection on
the phone.
39. Cannot close music player, can only
pause. Music player on lockscreen will stay
until you reboot.
40. No progress bar for current track playing
and no indication which track in an album is
playing
41. Cannot lock screen orientation.
42. Online and phone contacts are mixed
together with no ability to filter.
43. Cumbersome dialing with no smartdial.
Not able to enter alphabets into dialler for
name lookup.
44. Cannot save draft sms messages.
45. Call history only show phone number
type. If a contact has multiple phone nos.
for a type the number used is unknown.
46. Cannot recognize phone numbers in sms
or email to save or use as calling number.
47. Text messages can only be deleted one
by one.
48. Cannot select multiple pictures for
deleting, sending or uploading. They must be
done one at a time.
49. No way to see photo meta data -
dimension, date/time taken, etc
50. Apps are listed alphabetically with no
way to group by category. Can be hard to
find if you don�t remember the name.
51. Calendar scheduler has no weekly view
and monthly view is non-zoomable.
52. No peak/off-peak scheduling for email
downloads.
53. If both wi-fi and data connection are
available which one it chooses to use is
unpredictable. User experiences don�t agree
with Microsoft that it �typically� choose wi-
fi over 3G.
FEATURE LIMITATIONS
54. No video call. (Though its available on
Lumia 900)
55. No haptic feedback for keyboard.
56. No Swype.
57. No flashplayer support.
58. No support for Java apps.
59. No call recording or app to do it.
60. No call blocking or app to do it.
61. No screenshots or app to do it.
62. No auto wallpaper changer and no app to
do it.
63. Totally locked down os means apps
which interact directly with hardware not
allowed.
64. No equalizer for Zune music player.
65. FM radio doesn�t work on speaker.
66. IE browser has no text reflow, no
download capability and no offline reading.
67. No 3rd party browsers allowed except
those based on IE.
68. Volume up/down buttons cannot be used
to zoom in camera (sign of an immature os)
69. Cannot open zip or rar files received as
email attachment.
70. Cannot send or receive video by MMS.
71. Office Mobile has much less features
than 3rd party Office editors like
SmartOffice, QuickOffice and Polaris. Shame
on you, Microsoft!
72. No native Google maps and Bing maps is
useless for most countries outside U.S.
73. Email time stamp does not show the
year.
74. Wide difference in apps availability in
different markets and users locked to one
market.
75. Not all Bing features available outside
U.S.
DUMB AND DUMBER
76. One volume control for all functions
including media playback, ringtones, alarms,
notifications.
77. Wi-fi disconnects when screen sleeps.
Too bad if you are in the middle of a
download.
78. If you receive a text message when
talking on the phone an audio alert will blast
your ear at the full volume set. All other
phones will give a soft beep.
79. Can only enter one mobile phone no. for
each contact. Mobile nos. entered in other
fields will not accept sms.
80. Cannot send/receive MMS without
enabling 3G data connection. MMS does not
use 3G data.
81. Phone cannot be charged when off.
82. Need to be plugged in to wall charger to
sync wirelessly (a funny definition of
wireless).
83. Oversized fonts for headings waste
screen space and result in low information
density.
84. Phone will wake up and display sms
content on lockscreen when locked � a
privacy violation.
85. Phone can be rebooted without unlocking
to bypass security lock.
FEATURES EVEN DUMB PHONES HAVE BUT
WP7.5 DOESN�T
86. No bluetooth file transfer.
87. Cannot handle USSD codes necessary for
prepaid users to obtain services.
88. Cannot filter call history into Missed
Calls, Received Calls, Dialled Calls, Recent
Calls, etc
89. No way to backup or export call history.
90. Cannot show call duration in call history.
91. No way to edit MMS profile to work with
a carrier in the OS. Need an app which is not
available in all markets.
92. Call history does not group calls by
contact.
93. Call history does not show the time of
call for calls older than current day.
94. Cannot set custom sounds for different
types of notifications.
95. No ringer profiles.
96. No silent option (no vibrate and no ring)
from ringer menu. Need a trip to settings and
another trip to revert.
97. Cannot send/receive contact as a csv
file.
98. Cannot backup sms to PC.
99. Cannot save contact to SIM card.
100. Cannot change alarm ring tone or use a
MP3 file.
101. Cannot set alarm snooze interval."

Nw thats an impressive list of things. Have you encountered these "problems"?
Really thinking to wait for the wp8 now..

link to thread http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_lumia_800 ... s-4240.php

[original_lollybob]

^^actually now read through some of the comments on the lumia 800 on gsm arena, but this user put an interesting list of things that the lumia 800 doesn't do
and i quote,
"hi friend do you try it to your lumia smartphone or socialmedia phone..
OS LIMITATIONS
1. No true multitasking for 3rd party apps -
they re frozen in the background.
which platform has true multitasking? (iOS6 and wp8 promise this)
2. No Divx/Xvid video codec support. Zune
will convert with loss of quality.
3. No mass storage mode.
4. No micro-SD card support.
5. Only support up to 16GB storage .
That was a limitation imposed by the OS, not nokia, again 'fixed' in 8
6. No filemanager. Directory system is totally
opaque.
why exactly do u need a file manager on your phone again?
7. Need Zune to transfer files. Zune will only
transfer photos, videos & music. All other
files need to email/upload to yourself.
what else do u transfer to your phone? is this person thinking like a phone user or a pc user?
8. Your contact details are automatically
uploaded to cloud service whether you like it
or not.
thats a plus to me
9. Limited to 800x480 resolution.
10. Voice search is hardwired to Bing.
MS limitation again... updated in 8
11. Cannot use any MP3 file as ringtone
except those with strict constraints.
strict constraints = 30 secs or shorter
12. Cannot set static IP address so no
connection to ad-hoc networks.
13. No VPN support for this �corporate
enterprise� phone.
Fixed in 8
14. Cannot sync with Outlook.
15. Totally closed OS, cannot sideload apps
outside MS Marketplace.
fixed in 8, also iOS is soooooooooo open rite? clearly he's a phandroid
16. System font size cannot be changed.
so? its perfect
17. Images and photos cannot be renamed in
the phone.
who renames photos on the phone? if u save to pc or share u name it there
18. Windows Live ID account cannot change
country once set.
19. No centralized notification page.
epicly annoying
20. Alarm clock cannot work when phone is
turned off. All Nokia Symbian and Meego
phones can do this.
also annoying
21. The idle screen is completely blank and
cannot display time or notifications.
he must be using another lumia... lock sceen shows date, time, missed calls, email ad msgs (no 3rd party tho)
22. Only photos allowed as email
attachments, documents not allowed.
skydrive it and send a link
23. Bluetooth cannot stream to car audio
devices (no rSAP).
24. Cannot stream audio from video to
Bluetooth devices (No A2DP).
25. No support for full on-device encryption
required for secure applications like mobile
banking and online payment.
fixed in 8
26. Cannot use Bluetooth keyboard.
uhhhhh? why??
27. Cannot silence ringtone or alarm by
flipping the phone.
yes nokia/microsoft coulda do this... oh wait they did! its in tango
28. Very limited customization option.
what phone does!?
29. Ugly 2D flat interface. Oversized fonts
for headings treat you like an idiot.
you ARE an idiot
USABILITY ISSUES
30. No always visible status bar for battery
life, signal strength, carrier, 2G/3G wi-fi,
Bluetooth on.
31. Taskmanager has no option to shut down
apps you don�t want running in the
background.
no need for a task manager when your phone works properly
32. Search and Back button cannot be de-
activated in apps or games and easily
touched by accident which interrupt your
user experience.
buy a phone with pysical buttons next time (like a lumia 710)
33. Lockscreen need to be activated to show
missed call/sms notification.
wanna see notifications on a blank locked phone?
34. No way to close an app except pressing
back button all the way to the first screen.
35. Tiny fonts in messages is very hard to
read for those over 45.
poor thing
36. Cannot edit playlist or create new
playlists from phone.
37. Cannot delete a song from phone.
38. Cannot search your music collection on
the phone.
39. Cannot close music player, can only
pause. Music player on lockscreen will stay
until you reboot.
annoying yea
40. No progress bar for current track playing
and no indication which track in an album is
playing
41. Cannot lock screen orientation.
true
42. Online and phone contacts are mixed
together with no ability to filter.
43. Cumbersome dialing with no smartdial.
Not able to enter alphabets into dialler for
name lookup.
theres an app for that.. rapdialer... used it for a week and went right back the the so called horrible dialer
44. Cannot save draft sms messages.
45. Call history only show phone number
type. If a contact has multiple phone nos.
for a type the number used is unknown.
46. Cannot recognize phone numbers in sms
or email to save or use as calling number.
47. Text messages can only be deleted one
by one.
48. Cannot select multiple pictures for
deleting, sending or uploading. They must be
done one at a time.
i do miss multi-select
49. No way to see photo meta data -
dimension, date/time taken, etc
50. Apps are listed alphabetically with no
way to group by category. Can be hard to
find if you don�t remember the name.
lets flick left thru endless pages of apps instead?
51. Calendar scheduler has no weekly view
and monthly view is non-zoomable.
52. No peak/off-peak scheduling for email
downloads.
53. If both wi-fi and data connection are
available which one it chooses to use is
unpredictable. User experiences don�t agree
with Microsoft that it �typically� choose wi-
fi over 3G.
FEATURE LIMITATIONS
54. No video call. (Though its available on
Lumia 900)
55. No haptic feedback for keyboard.
56. No Swype.
how is this a fault of the lumia? blame swype
57. No flashplayer support.
steupes
58. No support for Java apps.
59. No call recording or app to do it.
60. No call blocking or app to do it.
61. No screenshots or app to do it.

62. No auto wallpaper changer and no app to
do it.
steupes
63. Totally locked down os means apps
which interact directly with hardware not
allowed.
sigh
64. No equalizer for Zune music player.
65. FM radio doesn�t work on speaker.
none do
66. IE browser has no text reflow, no
download capability and no offline reading.
67. No 3rd party browsers allowed except
those based on IE.
he's getting ridiculous
68. Volume up/down buttons cannot be used
to zoom in camera (sign of an immature os)
have u ever seen where the volume rockers are... try framing a shot and using the volume rocker to zoom at the same time. your thumb is right where the zoom control on screen is
69. Cannot open zip or rar files received as
email attachment.
70. Cannot send or receive video by MMS.
71. Office Mobile has much less features
than 3rd party Office editors like
SmartOffice, QuickOffice and Polaris. Shame
on you, Microsoft!
72. No native Google maps and Bing maps is
useless for most countries outside U.S.
nokia maps is better than both
73. Email time stamp does not show the
year.
74. Wide difference in apps availability in
different markets and users locked to one
market.
75. Not all Bing features available outside
U.S.
DUMB AND DUMBER
76. One volume control for all functions
including media playback, ringtones, alarms,
notifications.
agreed
77. Wi-fi disconnects when screen sleeps.
Too bad if you are in the middle of a
download.
agreed
78. If you receive a text message when
talking on the phone an audio alert will blast
your ear at the full volume set. All other
phones will give a soft beep.
agreed
79. Can only enter one mobile phone no. for
each contact. Mobile nos. entered in other
fields will not accept sms.
rubbish
80. Cannot send/receive MMS without
enabling 3G data connection. MMS does not
use 3G data.
81. Phone cannot be charged when off.
agreedagreedagreedagreed
82. Need to be plugged in to wall charger to
sync wirelessly (a funny definition of
wireless).
not sure bout this
83. Oversized fonts for headings waste
screen space and result in low information
density.
missed the point of metro
84. Phone will wake up and display sms
content on lockscreen when locked � a
privacy violation.
agreed
85. Phone can be rebooted without unlocking
to bypass security lock.
FEATURES EVEN DUMB PHONES HAVE BUT
WP7.5 DOESN�T
86. No bluetooth file transfer.
87. Cannot handle USSD codes necessary for
prepaid users to obtain services.
88. Cannot filter call history into Missed
Calls, Received Calls, Dialled Calls, Recent
Calls, etc
89. No way to backup or export call history.
90. Cannot show call duration in call history.
91. No way to edit MMS profile to work with
a carrier in the OS. Need an app which is not
available in all markets.
92. Call history does not group calls by
contact.
93. Call history does not show the time of
call for calls older than current day.
94. Cannot set custom sounds for different
types of notifications.
95. No ringer profiles.
96. No silent option (no vibrate and no ring)
from ringer menu. Need a trip to settings and
another trip to revert.
97. Cannot send/receive contact as a csv
file.
98. Cannot backup sms to PC.
99. Cannot save contact to SIM card.
100. Cannot change alarm ring tone or use a
MP3 file.
101. Cannot set alarm snooze interval."

Nw thats an impressive list of things. Have you encountered these "problems"?
Really thinking to wait for the wp8 now..

link to thread http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_lumia_800 ... s-4240.php

wtf.. he expecting a phone or a computer?

[trini mk5]

^^a guy said he must be an android user

[original_lollybob]

clearly...

i finished responding to all that affect me.

[trini mk5]

^^you know if some of the things you highlighted affects the lumia 900 too? Or are they general restrictions because of the OS?

[original_lollybob]

most are the OS.

the flip to silence is already on the 900...

[ismithx]

wtf.. he expecting a phone or a computer?

we expect computer functionality in a phone. hence the term 'smartphone'

[original_lollybob]

u expect your phone to replace your laptop?

come on.. there's expectation and then there's reality

smartphones fill a gap...

[ismithx]

when it is not practical to tote a laptop, it is then you will realize how great a smartphone can be.

[original_lollybob]

^exactly

when inconvenient it fills the need... sometimes its great even when a pc is around
but its not a replacement

[firstchoicett]

Considering getting a N9 what allyuh think ?

[Ronaldo95163]

There's no OS support for the N9 anymore

1failmove by Nokia

But it's an awesome phone!

[Ronaldo95163]

This should be pretty cool

http://nokiarules.wordpress.com/2012/05/23/nokia-belle-fp1-and-fp2-coming-to-nokia-n8-v111-30-610-spotted-on-navifirm-for-nokia-n8/

[firstchoicett]

^ was paying like 3K on my plan for it . Lol