All Things US Politics Related: Biden pardons Hunter

[redmanjp]

so dey trying to rig the election after all

https://apnews.com/article/criminal-investigations-columbia-fort-lauderdale-florida-elections-44b7856b900736ccef40c04605649661

Officials stop scheme to register dead voters as Democrats
By FREIDA FRISARO
October 30, 2020 GMT
FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. (AP) — Investigators in South Florida have uncovered an attempt to register dozens of dead people as Democratic voters, though no mail-in ballots were requested or cast under the falsified IDs.

Officials in Broward County, a Democratic stronghold and Florida’s second most populous county, uncovered the scheme over the summer.

Someone in Colombia, South Carolina, mailed 51 new voter applications — each bearing the same neat handwriting — to the Broward County elections office in July, officials said. The story was first reported Friday by the South Florida SunSentinel.

Broward County supervisor of elections officials flagged the registrations as suspicious and turned them over to the Broward state attorney’s office.

“We cannot comment on an ongoing, active criminal investigation,” state attorney’s office spokeswoman Paula McMahon told The Associated Press in an email.

But correspondence between the state attorney’s office and Broward Elections Supervisor Pete Antonacci shows that officials could not determine who mailed the registrations because there was no return address. The registration applications were received in 19 envelopes.

Thirty of the 51 were verified by the state attorney’s office as being deceased. The identities of the other 21 could not be verified by only date of birth and name, Assistant State Attorney Tim Donnelly said in a letter to Antonacci dated Oct. 22.

Five of the names were already on the voter rolls, but investigators said no absentee ballots had been requested. The deadline to request a mail-in ballot was Oct. 24.

The SunSentinel reported that at least three of the applications evaded detection and were added to the Broward voter rolls in July. Two of those people had died in June.

“This is an organized effort by someone who knew a little bit about Florida law but not a lot and had a scheme to either undermine the Florida registration system with fake voters or intended to vote 50 times,” Antonacci told the newspaper.

Elections officials said the applications were left blank in spaces for driver license and Social Security numbers. Voting under a false registration is more difficult because the voter would have to show identification before either voting or mailing in a ballot, according to Antonacci.

[redmanjp]

[The_Honourable]

LOL@the burn in the ending...

Seems social desirability bias is in full effect.

[De Dragon]

If people feel Texas going blue they not living in the real world.

Strategy. If you feel that you have a chance, then your will, $$ contribution and participation increase.

[death365]

this is what bbc says it is today

https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-53657174

[goalpost]

Most likely it's going to Biden.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

"In 2016, Clinton was widely viewed as the heavy favourite to win. But just because she didn't pull it off in that election doesn't mean that Biden's good numbers should be seen as equally illusory.

Biden's lead over Trump is much wider than Clinton's at this point of the 2016 campaign. His lead is about twice as wide in national polling, and he is ahead in states worth 368 electoral college votes. Clinton was ahead in states worth only 323 electoral college votes, giving her less margin for error.

In fact, the former vice-president's lead is wide enough to withstand a polling error similar to the one that happened in 2016."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/grenie ... -1.5785599

But Trump could still very well win

[Ben_spanna]

When all those hard core die hard born and bred americans come out to vote.. it may very well stay with trump... its going to be an interesting next 48-72 hours for the usa..............

[Les Bain]

I feel is another 4 years of Trump.

Trump brought our classless 3rd world politics into America and turned into a successful cult of personality. Look at us here: despite uniting the country in stewing at how much of a toots government they were, people voted back Colm Imbert and Stuart Young as Prime Minister. So 4 more years of hearing human colons call people Snowflake.

[sMASH]

"In 2016, Clinton was widely viewed as the heavy favourite to win. But just because she didn't pull it off in that election doesn't mean that Biden's good numbers should be seen as equally illusory.

Biden's lead over Trump is much wider than Clinton's at this point of the 2016 campaign. His lead is about twice as wide in national polling, and he is ahead in states worth 368 electoral college votes. Clinton was ahead in states worth only 323 electoral college votes, giving her less margin for error.

In fact, the former vice-president's lead is wide enough to withstand a polling error similar to the one that happened in 2016."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/grenie ... -1.5785599

But Trump could still very well win

this time it have a lot of anti trumpers. but this time a lot of progressives are less willing to support the centrists.

another but, the last time was the electoral college that got trump in, not the popular vote. this time trump might not have as much support.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

In 1964 the US General Election was also held on Tuesday 3rd November, similar to 2020.
The democratic candidate, Lyndon B Johnson was the Vice President under John F Kennedy. After JFKs assassination, Johnson ran for president and won in 1964 against the segregationist Republican Barry Goldwater.

Johnson won by a landslide

Martin Luther King Jr. gave a speech urging people to go out and vote on Tuesday November 3rd

You can start at 2:21 on the video

Interestingly enough, Lyndon B Johnson went on to push for Civil Rights while Goldwater opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

Johnson is ranked favorably by many historians because of his domestic policies and the passage of many major laws that affected civil rights, gun control, wilderness preservation, and Social Security, although he also drew substantial criticism for his escalation of the Vietnam War.

Seeing a lot of similarities here especially the date also being exactly Tuesday November 3rd, but also in the candidates, former Democratic vice president vs a segregationist Republican. Except Johnson was the incumbent.

I feel the Republicans fear Joe will start another war.

[MaxPower]

Wishing Commander Trump all the best.

He deserves another term.

[maj. tom]

^Goldwater was a very, very bad person. Good thing he didn't make President at that point in US Civil Rights history. On the other hand Johnson sent America to Vietnam...

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

^Goldwater was a very, very bad person.

So is Trump

On the other hand Johnson sent America to Vietnam...

True.
Historically which party candidates started the most wars or conflicts?

[The_Honourable]

White House Goes On Lockdown, Massive Fence Erected As Mass Unrest Expected, Far Left Plans "Coup"

[Kewell35]

You can't compare 2016 to today.

Many people voted for DT 4 years ago because he was a different perspective in DC instead of these career politicians.

Many of them are suffering from buyer's remorse.

I fully expect a Biden victory.

You won't know until after the election. The polls looking similar if you go by each state as someone else said on here. People underestimate how much support Trump has in the US just like they did in 2016.

It would be closer than people think.

The assumptions made by Pollsters in 2016 were wrong, they do something called a demographic adjustment to compensate for smaller sample sizes.

This is why polls can be statistically sound, but humans introduce their own biases based on past trends. Another issue was the 'Trump Effect' where people (or so-called undecideds)

Prior to 2016, educated Americans voted more democrat, that shifted in 2016 when they supported Trump more than previously elections. In 2020, they've said to 'correct' that, however again that can be flawed.

State polls tend to have a margin of error of ~5-6% where as national polls tend to be more accurate (though less likely to predict the election since popular vote doesn't matter) at ~4%.

5% margin of error is a lot, Biden is leading by small margins in FL, AZ, NC and PA.....if Trump get's those 4 he wins.

Actually apparently the mistake they made was that they didn't place as much importance/count the uneducated white vote and they came out in numbers.

[Kewell35]

I still stuck in the US here.

Wonder if they gonna have riots/protests tomorrow if Trump lose or even if Biden lose.

[Miktay]

Look at the rallies....

[maj. tom]

^Goldwater was a very, very bad person.

So is Trump

On the other hand Johnson sent America to Vietnam...

True.
Historically which party candidates started the most wars or conflicts?

I think for recent history, Republicans are more controlled by the powers of Industrial War Complex who in turn were fed fat by Republican policies and corruption. The Republicans have fueled global conflicts over decades which took just as long to manifest, due to their foreign policies and scheming.

Vietnam was very complicated and was the cumulation of American policies going all the way back to Eisenhower (R). But Johnson (D) pulled the trigger with deployed soldiers escalation to support South Vietnam after Gulf of Tonkin incident. It was still a limited mission with no real objectives until 1969. Vietnam really escalated uncontrollably when Nixon (R) took office and ran the war on the advice of Henry Kissinger. Kissinger was the man to lay blame for what Vietnam eventually was to become. He is still the grand architect that historians lay blame to today.

After that, Reagan (R) politics were always wrong, backward and corrupt, Contra Rebels, Iran, Afghanistan... the War on Drugs. Everything you see Republican today, from Trump to Fox news was trickle down caused by Reagan. And then Daddy Bush (R) with Iraq and the hypocricracy of policy in Saudi Arabia for their oil.

Clinton (D) suffered the disaster of the UN peacekeeping mission to Somalia (Mogadishu 1993) in his first year in Office, which lead to him pulling back US military foreign policy. He let Rwanda to itself without intervening (and why should he have in a civil conflict?) Clinton was aware of the rise of terrorism and bin Laden and operated strikes again terrorist targets, especially after the Kenyan embassy bombing. He operated in Bosnia under NATO, but as peacekeeping. bin Laden btw, was a product of Reagan's actions in Lebanon and a USA backed Israel's war policy against Palestine, and USA fed him well during the Afghanistan war with the Soviets. He quoted that he got the inspiration of the twin towers from seeing Israeli artillery strikes in destroying towers Beirut filled with civilians.

Now comes the war criminal Baby Bush (R) whose admin had so many warnings about 9/11, even a direct warning about the date by one of the leaders of the Northern Alliance in Afghanistan... and ignored them (Read the 9/11 Commission Report), and then later invaded Iraq under a false declaration, just like how Nazi Germany did to Poland. Look at the immense destruction and loss of life and instability in Iraq... the Invasion of Iraq is viewed as a War Crime and Act of Aggression even by contemporary historians. Similar charges were laid on the Nazis at the Nuremberg Trials (1946) and the leaders were all executed by hanging, but yet America decides that they don't have to be held to those exact standards that they held other nations to in the past.

Trump's America is committing similar acts to the Nazis did in 1933 by sending "undesirables" to Dachau, Trump does it to immigrants and separated children from their parents, keep them in cages, force gynecological operations on women... suddenly America doesn't know history? Trump calls for his White Supremacist Proud Boys to stand by, applauds the recent terrorism acts in Texas and in Michigan, gives rise to extremism among his followers over the last 4 years who hear his dog calls because for the first time they have a President in Office as disgusting as they are, as uneducated and crass and violent and abusive as they are. He is a constant liar, everything he projects on twitter to other people, he himself is guilty of. He has committed treason and massive domestic and foreign fraud. He doesn't even pay taxes. Trump is also a pedophile (Epstein and Maxwell dealings and photos). His handling of this entire Covid situation wasn't just incompetence, it was malicious and deliberate actions without regard for the thousands dying everyday. If Trump wins again, America will face a civil disaster. Starting on the 4th November with massive protests. And some people here support Trump, despite knowing all of the above. Plenty of these disgusting sickos walking here among us.

[pete]

I still stuck in the US here.

Wonder if they gonna have riots/protests tomorrow if Trump lose or even if Biden lose.

They won't finish counting votes til maybe Friday.

Might have results from Florida and Texas who start counting early though. While one way it doesn't necessarily mean one has won over the other, if it goes the other way it is definitely over.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

Early Votes Near record 100 Million

More than 97 million Americans have already voted, over two-thirds of 2016’s total.

Whatever the outcome, the 2020 election is already one for the history books, with an astonishing 97.6 million ballots already submitted through in-person early voting and by mail — more than two-thirds of the number of votes cast in the entire 2016 election.

As of Monday afternoon, hours before Election Day, with some states still holding early voting, 35.5 million people had voted in person and 62.1 million had cast ballots by mail, according to the U.S. Elections Project, a nonpartisan website run by Michael McDonald, a University of Florida professor who tracks county-level data.

Those numbers represent a tectonic shift away from one-day voting, the staple of the American electoral system for centuries.

And they make it likely that the total turnout for 2020 will break the record set in 2016, when nearly 139 million people voted.

They also create fresh uncertainty for two presidential campaigns facing the prospect of motivating a smaller, more-volatile reservoir of available voters to tap on Election Day itself.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/11/02 ... 016s-total

[The_Honourable]

I still stuck in the US here.

Wonder if they gonna have riots/protests tomorrow if Trump lose or even if Biden lose.

Well dey protesting since 2016 so if Trump wins, protests for sure. Buy extra and keep safe.

[maj. tom]

[redmanjp]

I still stuck in the US here.

Wonder if they gonna have riots/protests tomorrow if Trump lose or even if Biden lose.

better stock up on ammo and food and board up yuh windows

[maj. tom]

I still stuck in the US here.

Wonder if they gonna have riots/protests tomorrow if Trump lose or even if Biden lose.

They won't finish counting votes til maybe Friday.

Might have results from Florida and Texas who start counting early though. While one way it doesn't necessarily mean one has won over the other, if it goes the other way it is definitely over.

I guess you all haven't read this: it has been going on a few days now, Trump boasting at his rallies that he will send lawyers to stop the count, anything after election day. He says that the winner should be declared on election night and discard the rest of the votes. Imagine a President saying retarded nonsense like this. Millions of votes in each state historically has taken weeks to count. Suddenly Trump farts out this unconstitutional idea and his followers are licking it up at all the rallies. This is what a Trump supporter is.

Trump has been saying that all votes should be counted on election night. “It would be very, very proper and very nice if a winner were declared on November 3rd, instead of counting ballots for two weeks, which is totally inappropriate, and I don’t believe that that’s by our laws,” he told reporters last week. By that standard, any ballots not counted by, say, an arbitrary deadline of midnight Wednesday just wouldn’t count.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/11/02/votes-counted-after-election-day/

President Trump is doubling down on claims that the results of the presidential election must be known on election night, falsely asserting "that's the way it's been and that's the way it should be."
https://www.npr.org/2020/11/01/930140373/fact-check-trump-falsely-claims-that-votes-shouldnt-be-counted-after-election-da

[Dohplaydat]

Whoever wins Pen and MI wins.

I don't agree with 538's predictions, I think FL, AZ, GA, and NC going to Trump.....along wit PE and MI

[Miktay]

I still stuck in the US here.

Wonder if they gonna have riots/protests tomorrow if Trump lose or even if Biden lose.

They won't finish counting votes til maybe Friday.

Might have results from Florida and Texas who start counting early though. While one way it doesn't necessarily mean one has won over the other, if it goes the other way it is definitely over.

I guess you all haven't read this: it has been going on a few days now, Trump boasting at his rallies that he will send lawyers to stop the count, anything after election day. He says that the winner should be declared on election night and discard the rest of the votes. Imagine a President saying retarded nonsense like this. Millions of votes in each state historically has taken weeks to count. Suddenly Trump farts out this unconstitutional idea and his followers are licking it up at all the rallies. This is what a Trump supporter is.

Trump has been saying that all votes should be counted on election night. “It would be very, very proper and very nice if a winner were declared on November 3rd, instead of counting ballots for two weeks, which is totally inappropriate, and I don’t believe that that’s by our laws,” he told reporters last week. By that standard, any ballots not counted by, say, an arbitrary deadline of midnight Wednesday just wouldn’t count.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/11/02/votes-counted-after-election-day/

President Trump is doubling down on claims that the results of the presidential election must be known on election night, falsely asserting "that's the way it's been and that's the way it should be."
https://www.npr.org/2020/11/01/930140373/fact-check-trump-falsely-claims-that-votes-shouldnt-be-counted-after-election-da

Pardner: each side has approx 600 lawyers on retainer from the top Constitutional US law firms. So there will enough legal challenges after Nov 12th on BOTH sides.

Some pollsters are simulating there may be up to Four people who can win the 2020 US Presidential election.

[Miktay]

Dup xxx

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

U.S. businesses board up ahead of election

[sMASH]

^Goldwater was a very, very bad person. Good thing he didn't make President at that point in US Civil Rights history. On the other hand Johnson sent America to Vietnam...

hillary clinton was a 'goldwater girl'