.::The Official General Election 2015 Thread::.

[RASC]

Kamala upgrade to absolut now?

W.O. not good enough for she or what

[rfari]

4x4 is really value for money yes. Compared to uml

[humbleservant]

PEOPLE’S National Movement (PNM) supporters reserved some of their loudest cheers yesterday during the party’s sports and family day for young women all dressed in the bright yellow of the party’s rival — the United National Congress (UNC) — who staggered, stumbled and fell while tightly clutching a bottle of vodka during the march past segment of the event.

These skits plus the carrying of a stuffed tiger on a pole, which represented the killing of the cat, were some of the colours of the event held at Nelson Mandela Park where the featured speaker was Opposition and PNM political leader Dr Keith Rowley.

The march past kicked off just after Rowley’s arrival at the park, at about 11 am. The 27 teams, each representing different constituencies competed for the title of March Past champions, with displays of coordination and choreography. Several skits portraying a drunk woman drew loud cheers and then jeers from the very large crowd of PNMites.

As the march past team from Arouca/Maloney constituency marched portraying traffic wardens, a young woman dressed in bright yellow with wig and shades, staggered in front of the marchers as she held a bottle of vodka in her hand. She appeared dazed and uncoordinated, but never once did the bottle of vodka fall from her hand.

As the woman fell, during the skit, one of the marchers stood over and remonstrated her conduct. Dressed in orange blue and white, marchers of Diego Martin West were interrupted by an uncoordinated woman, again clad in bright yellow and carrying a bottle of rum. The master of ceremonies/announcer shouted at the woman, “Who said you could come in this constituency where Dr Rowley has been for years?”

The woman lurched as she held her bottle of rum while the announcer shouted abuse as the PNM crowd roared in delight. “What you drinking there, eh? No wonder you always feeling so sick!”

The skit continued with the La Horquetta constituency marchers where once again, a woman dressed in yellow and clutching a bottle of rum staggered alongside the marchers.

“Why is it every time we see a woman in yellow, she always has some kind of bottle or glass in her hand,” the announcer asked. In the three skits, the women in yellow and clutching alcohol were eventually chased away by well dressed men waving balisier flowers — the PNM’s symbol.

Earlier, PNM supporters came in their thousands to take part in the sports day. It was an opportunity to support their various constituencies, their party and their political leader.

As the crowd awaited Rowley’s arrival, a playing calypsonian De Lamo’s ditty, “Take Deh Money and Vote Them Out”

Rowley arrived accompanied by PNM chairman Franklyn Khan, deputy leader Rohan Sinanan, and THA chief secretary and deputy PNM leader Orville London. As Machel Montano’s road march hit ‘Like ah Boss’, blared from music trucks, Rowley hugged and shook hands with supporters.

The sports day saw not only the march past but also tug o’war, all fours card games, children’s games and others as the crowd enjoyed themselves as they awaited the feature address from their leader.

well at least they had a STATUTORY RAPIST ON STAGE!!! (no acting necessary)

UML you real out ah timin bad horse...

[UML]

MASSIVE PNM CROWD!!!

PM, Rowley gap widens
Latest Nigel Henry poll
Published on May 25, 2015, 9:28 am AST
Updated on May 25, 2015, 9:32 am AST
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PM Kamla Persad Bissessar at People's Partnership fifth anniversary rally at Constantine Park and Opposition Leader Dr. Keith Rowley at Nelson Mandela Park during PNM Sports and Family Day Photos: Anisto Alves and Curtis Chase


The Prime Minister's favourability rating has improved to 54% nationally, equal to her job approval rating. Only 36% of voters have an unfavourable opinion of her, and 10% not sure. Dr Rowley's favourability rating trails by 10 percentage points at 44%.

This latest 2015 election tracking poll done on the fifth anniversary of the People's Partnership in government by Nigel Henry's Solution by Simulation also finds that crime remains the number one concern of citizens and confidence in national institutions has risen.

The poll was commissioned by the Trinidad Express Newspapers.

Following is the conclusion:

Read Part One of the Trinidad Express commissioned/ Nigel Henry poll
Favourability of the Party Leaders



The Prime Minister continues to enjoy very high favourability. Her favourability rating has improved to 54% nationally, equal to her job approval rating. With only 36% of voters having an unfavourable opinion of her, and 10% not sure. Dr Rowley's favourability rating trails by 10 percentage points at 44%. With just about as many voters having an unfavourable opinion of him, his net favourability is +2%.

The two leaders are tied in favourability among undecided voters at 45%. The difference comes mainly from PNM supporters. While 93% of People's Partnership supporters have a favourable opinion of their leader, only 82% of PNM supporters have a favourable opinion of Dr Rowley. Similarly, more PNM supporters have a favourable opinion of Mrs Persad-Bissessar than Partnership supporters who have a favourable opinion of Dr Rowley.



The parties are roughly tied in support, while a large and increasing gap exists in favourability between the leaders. Much of this gap is explained by those who have already made up their minds. As the election is drawing closer, voters are making up their minds about the leaders. Two months ago, those who had no opinions about the leaders were at 23% and 17% for Dr Rowley and Mrs Persad-Bissessar, respectively. In this poll they are at 14% and 10%.



Issues of National Concern



The national population remains almost unanimously concerned about crime, with 96% expressing concern. Corruption is a close second at 89%. Voters are also concerned about the economy, unemployment and national infrastructure such as transportation, utilities, and telecommunications systems.

Overall concern about these issues are at roughly the same levels as this time last year, although some voters have moderated from being "very concerned" to "somewhat concerned".

Among undecided voters, 82% are very concerned about corruption, 67% are very concerned about unemployment, and 47% about infrastructure. Even among those who approve of the job that the Prime Minister is doing, 70% are very concerned about corruption, 44% about the economy, 41% about national infrastructure.

This year, we asked voters "How concerned are you about the economic situation following the recent Moody's downgrade of the government bond rating?" This attracted a partisan response, with 72% of PNM supporters being "very concerned", compared to 37% of Partnership supporters and 58% of undecided voters.

Younger voters are more likely to be concerned about unemployment, while voters of all ages express concern about the other issues.



Confidence in our National Institutions



Overall confidence in our national institutions has ticked up from last year, but remains dismally low. Confidence in the Parliament, Judiciary, and healthcare sectors rank among the lowest. Confidence in the Police Service has seen the most dramatic gain, rising from a low of 11% in 2012 to 30% this year. The education system stands out among the institutions with 61% of the population expressing confidence - the only one of the national institutions polled that crossed or even came close to 50%.



Confidence in these institutions follow political and racial lines. On average, Indo-Trinidadians are about 17 percentage points more likely to express confidence in the state institutions (education, health, judicial, police) than Afro-Trinidadians. Confidence in the government itself differs by 46 percentage points along racial lines. On the contrary, Afro-Trinidadians are 11 percentage points more likely to have confidence in the media than Indo-Trinidadians. Confidence in our national institutions among mixed-race voters is at about the national average.



Dynamics of the Election Race



The country continues to be polarised by race. The dip in support for the People's Partnership in the March 2015 poll has returned, and even increased slightly. This comes from a consolidation of political support along ethnic lines. The PNM continues to have a slight edge among the decisive group of mixed-race voters.



Consistent with recent opinion polls, there is also a stark polarisation of the electorate by age. Younger voters prefer the PNM at much higher rates than older voters, while the PP has a clear advantage among older voters.

This election may come down to who turns out to vote. Partnership supporters are 4 percentage points more likely to vote than PNM supporters. This is mostly driven by differences among age groups. While 73% of those over 40 years old say that they are very likely to vote, only 62% of the PNM-leaning 18-24 year old age group plan to vote in 2015.



Methodology

Solution by Simulation interviewed 1,035 adults in Trinidad and Tobago via live telephone calls from May 11th to May 21st. The poll was commissioned by the Express Newspapers. The respondents were sampled from households of registered voters in the 354 polling divisions in Trinidad and 30 polling divisions in Tobago, whose election results best predict the national election results in past elections, and an additional oversample from Chaguanas West. There are a total of 1,547 polling divisions in Trinidad and Tobago. The margin of error is +/- 3%.

The responses were appropriately reweighted to match historical voting patterns. The method is similar to the uniform national swing (UNS) system used in the United Kingdom which compares opinion polling to past election results at the constituency level. The difference is that (1) a non-linear statistical projection is applied, and (2) it is applied at the polling division level.

A technical description of the formula can be found at http://politicalsimulations.com/electio ... ll201505.R



About Solution by Simulation

Solution by Simulation Limited (SBS) is a data analysis firm which uses computer modelling to probe and provide insight into human behaviour. SBS provides market research and data analysis services for a number of commercial, academic, and civil society clients. SBS was founded by Nigel AR Henry, BS (Yale) MA (GWU), following Mr Henry's service as the lead numerical analyst for the Southeast US for Obama for America campaign. SBS debuted in Trinidad and Tobago producing the only published poll to forecast the 12-0 victory of the PNM in the 2013 THA Elections. Over five elections in 2013 and 2014, Solution by Simulation has proven to be consistently accurate in its pre-election polling.
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/20150525 ... gap-widens

As we can see from yesterdays turnout at Constantine Park..............this poll is still inaccurate and its credibility is wavering. I can expect him to get accurate by election day. It will be too late for the Express, Guardian, Rowley, Roget, Martin Daly, Ramesh, Panday, Archbishop Harris, Reginald Dumas, Father Harvey, David aBullah, Dr Winford James, etc. to say or do anything

[rfari]

MASSIVE PNM CROWD!!!

PM, Rowley gap widens
Latest Nigel Henry poll
Published on May 25, 2015, 9:28 am AST
Updated on May 25, 2015, 9:32 am AST
18 CommentsArticle
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PM Kamla Persad Bissessar at People's Partnership fifth anniversary rally at Constantine Park and Opposition Leader Dr. Keith Rowley at Nelson Mandela Park during PNM Sports and Family Day Photos: Anisto Alves and Curtis Chase


The Prime Minister's favourability rating has improved to 54% nationally, equal to her job approval rating. Only 36% of voters have an unfavourable opinion of her, and 10% not sure. Dr Rowley's favourability rating trails by 10 percentage points at 44%.

This latest 2015 election tracking poll done on the fifth anniversary of the People's Partnership in government by Nigel Henry's Solution by Simulation also finds that crime remains the number one concern of citizens and confidence in national institutions has risen.

The poll was commissioned by the Trinidad Express Newspapers.

Following is the conclusion:

Read Part One of the Trinidad Express commissioned/ Nigel Henry poll
Favourability of the Party Leaders



The Prime Minister continues to enjoy very high favourability. Her favourability rating has improved to 54% nationally, equal to her job approval rating. With only 36% of voters having an unfavourable opinion of her, and 10% not sure. Dr Rowley's favourability rating trails by 10 percentage points at 44%. With just about as many voters having an unfavourable opinion of him, his net favourability is +2%.

The two leaders are tied in favourability among undecided voters at 45%. The difference comes mainly from PNM supporters. While 93% of People's Partnership supporters have a favourable opinion of their leader, only 82% of PNM supporters have a favourable opinion of Dr Rowley. Similarly, more PNM supporters have a favourable opinion of Mrs Persad-Bissessar than Partnership supporters who have a favourable opinion of Dr Rowley.



The parties are roughly tied in support, while a large and increasing gap exists in favourability between the leaders. Much of this gap is explained by those who have already made up their minds. As the election is drawing closer, voters are making up their minds about the leaders. Two months ago, those who had no opinions about the leaders were at 23% and 17% for Dr Rowley and Mrs Persad-Bissessar, respectively. In this poll they are at 14% and 10%.



Issues of National Concern



The national population remains almost unanimously concerned about crime, with 96% expressing concern. Corruption is a close second at 89%. Voters are also concerned about the economy, unemployment and national infrastructure such as transportation, utilities, and telecommunications systems.

Overall concern about these issues are at roughly the same levels as this time last year, although some voters have moderated from being "very concerned" to "somewhat concerned".

Among undecided voters, 82% are very concerned about corruption, 67% are very concerned about unemployment, and 47% about infrastructure. Even among those who approve of the job that the Prime Minister is doing, 70% are very concerned about corruption, 44% about the economy, 41% about national infrastructure.

This year, we asked voters "How concerned are you about the economic situation following the recent Moody's downgrade of the government bond rating?" This attracted a partisan response, with 72% of PNM supporters being "very concerned", compared to 37% of Partnership supporters and 58% of undecided voters.

Younger voters are more likely to be concerned about unemployment, while voters of all ages express concern about the other issues.



Confidence in our National Institutions



Overall confidence in our national institutions has ticked up from last year, but remains dismally low. Confidence in the Parliament, Judiciary, and healthcare sectors rank among the lowest. Confidence in the Police Service has seen the most dramatic gain, rising from a low of 11% in 2012 to 30% this year. The education system stands out among the institutions with 61% of the population expressing confidence - the only one of the national institutions polled that crossed or even came close to 50%.



Confidence in these institutions follow political and racial lines. On average, Indo-Trinidadians are about 17 percentage points more likely to express confidence in the state institutions (education, health, judicial, police) than Afro-Trinidadians. Confidence in the government itself differs by 46 percentage points along racial lines. On the contrary, Afro-Trinidadians are 11 percentage points more likely to have confidence in the media than Indo-Trinidadians. Confidence in our national institutions among mixed-race voters is at about the national average.



Dynamics of the Election Race



The country continues to be polarised by race. The dip in support for the People's Partnership in the March 2015 poll has returned, and even increased slightly. This comes from a consolidation of political support along ethnic lines. The PNM continues to have a slight edge among the decisive group of mixed-race voters.



Consistent with recent opinion polls, there is also a stark polarisation of the electorate by age. Younger voters prefer the PNM at much higher rates than older voters, while the PP has a clear advantage among older voters.

This election may come down to who turns out to vote. Partnership supporters are 4 percentage points more likely to vote than PNM supporters. This is mostly driven by differences among age groups. While 73% of those over 40 years old say that they are very likely to vote, only 62% of the PNM-leaning 18-24 year old age group plan to vote in 2015.



Methodology

Solution by Simulation interviewed 1,035 adults in Trinidad and Tobago via live telephone calls from May 11th to May 21st. The poll was commissioned by the Express Newspapers. The respondents were sampled from households of registered voters in the 354 polling divisions in Trinidad and 30 polling divisions in Tobago, whose election results best predict the national election results in past elections, and an additional oversample from Chaguanas West. There are a total of 1,547 polling divisions in Trinidad and Tobago. The margin of error is +/- 3%.

The responses were appropriately reweighted to match historical voting patterns. The method is similar to the uniform national swing (UNS) system used in the United Kingdom which compares opinion polling to past election results at the constituency level. The difference is that (1) a non-linear statistical projection is applied, and (2) it is applied at the polling division level.

A technical description of the formula can be found at http://politicalsimulations.com/electio ... ll201505.R



About Solution by Simulation

Solution by Simulation Limited (SBS) is a data analysis firm which uses computer modelling to probe and provide insight into human behaviour. SBS provides market research and data analysis services for a number of commercial, academic, and civil society clients. SBS was founded by Nigel AR Henry, BS (Yale) MA (GWU), following Mr Henry's service as the lead numerical analyst for the Southeast US for Obama for America campaign. SBS debuted in Trinidad and Tobago producing the only published poll to forecast the 12-0 victory of the PNM in the 2013 THA Elections. Over five elections in 2013 and 2014, Solution by Simulation has proven to be consistently accurate in its pre-election polling.
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/20150525 ... gap-widens

As we can see from yesterdays turnout at Constantine Park..............this poll is still inaccurate and its credibility is wavering. I can expect him to get accurate by election day. It will be too late for the Express, Guardian, Rowley, Roget, Martin Daly, Ramesh, Panday, Archbishop Harris, Reginald Dumas, Father Harvey, David aBullah, Dr Winford James, etc. to say or do anything

You read beyond the title and the first paragraph?

[Daran]

Whoa, lol....that was distasteful by the PNM. Is this the way to reach out and appeal to the undecided? Things like that would have never happened under Penny.

Regardless of the goodwill PP squandered, they ended up doing a more than 'good enough' job with all the highways, hospitals, schools built.

I think it is honestly too close to call, but I can see PP winning by a 23 or 22 seats.

Let's see how their election campaign develops, but I'd like to get something going here, hear me out.

A number of people on Facebook are very apathetic to both parties and understandable so, our politicians speak to the lowest common denominator.

However, what the fundamental differences in their policies and swing (i.e. left or right)?

Very vaguely and without much support, I'd say PPG represents a more liberal type stance whereas PNM seems more right wing.

However, neither of them prescribe to these principles much and it comes down to more localized slants.....as in PPG seems to be more on the core infrastructure side (roads, schools, hospitals, water) whereas PNM seems to be more West and POS focused and more inclined to promote and develop our Energy based industries.

Anyone care to add more?

Another I can think of is PPG seems to be more inclined to adopt more first world liberal type legislation such as Banning corporal punishment and other UN Human rights policies.

[Habit7]

The debt situation of TT should not be viewed thru political lenses. The CLICO collapse of 2009 meant that GOTT had to issue $20Bn in debt to repay their investors. This applies to whichever party was in power, it was not an option as to not issue additional debt would have had catastrophic consequences for our financial system.

CLICO only represents a part of our debt. Plus we didn't just give CLICO money and turn our backs, we own CLICO, and they have to pay us to get it back.

In fact, earlier this year they paid back $7 billion http://www.guardian.co.tt/business/2015 ... -7-billion

[Habit7]

Another I can think of is PPG seems to be more inclined to adopt more first world liberal type legislation such as Banning corporal punishment and other UN Human rights policies.

Who said banning corporal punishment is first world? Many states in the U.S. still has it on their books. Nevertheless, banning CP has been one of the most detrimental policy making in TT. Since then there has been a marked increase in indiscipline in schools and subsequent indiscipline in young adults. Kamla failed to implement a proper alternative and just borrowed developed country practice without developed country logic.

The PP was responsible for imprisoning over 7000 males most without a charge, so don't get your hopes up about human rights polices.

[Daran]

Habit7,

Are they still imprisoned? But relevant point none the less.

As for banning corporal punishment, that was certainly not a negative in any sense. I and many others were abused in school, especially in secondary school. So much so that I started faking sick for to miss classes.

I was so glad when that law was passed. I know you prescribe to the biblical view that beating children is ok, but all research shows has many negative repercussions.

[RASC]

Habit7,

Are they still imprisoned? But relevant point none the less.

As for banning corporal punishment, that was certainly not a negative in any sense. I and many others were abused in school, especially in secondary school. So much so that I started faking sick for to miss classes.

I was so glad when that law was passed. I know you prescribe to the biblical view that beating children is ok, but all research shows has many negative repercussions.

So now everyone must suffer because you were bobolised in school... By your dean for OBVIOUS wrong doings. Thanks.

[Habit7]

So what if they still not in prison? You want to spend a night a jail with no reason other than fitting a profile?

I am sorry you were abused. But regulated corporal punishment and physical abuse are two different things. The environment both teachers and students now have to live in makes them more subject to physical abuse now that cp is gone.

I was in 3rd form in an all boys college when Kamla removed cp, and I can distinguish my high school life before and after that. The very guys who tried their best to be marginal from school where they possibly got the only solid instruction in their life....were now punished with exactly what they wanted, being set home from school

Thanks Kamla.

[RASC]

So what if they still not in prison? You want to spend a night a jail with no reason other than fitting a profile?

I am sorry you were abused. But regulated corporal punishment and physical abuse are two different things. The environment both teachers and students now have to live in makes them more subject to physical abuse now that cp is gone.

I was in 3rd form in an all boys college when Kamla removed cp, and I can distinguish my high school life before and after that. The very guys who tried their best to be marginal from school where they possibly got the only solid instruction in their life....were now punished with exactly what they wanted, being set home from school

Thanks Kamla.

We're around the same age.
I remember this DISTINCTLY... Total screw up.

[desifemlove]

Fiscal Balance . Positive before 2010 negative after. Clear proof of reckless spending with no increased revenue stream

small ting....since when is budget deficit bad?

[Redman]

So run multi billion deficits for 4 years.....claim prudent fiscal management on. 40 m interim surplus....before yuh pay yuh bills.


And saying so with a straight face...

That kinda head couldn't come from weed.

[De Dragon]

Awaits at least one pro-PNM 2NR to call the march past depiction of the PM as disrespectful.

[The_Honourable]

How does crowd size and composition translate into real party support and voting behavior?

[Daran]

Habit7, again it was not just me who was abused it was the entire class.

Secondly no first world country has corporal punishment allowed in schools and your assertion of having a backup plan is a bit odd? For me , the majority of teachers never beat and most controlled the class quite well. Beating or instiling fear is not the way to get kids to behave. Do you have a child?

Also crowds don't win elections, but they do have the effect of swaying the undecided.

Look at UNC in 2007, before their rally everyone count them out and said COP would be the one competing against PNM. That huge mid center rally changed everything and UNC under Panday, got 200k votes.

So crowds, like polls, do have influence.

[Habit7]

U.S., Singapore, Japan and Australia still have cp in some form. Corporal punishment alone doesn't make children behave. It is a punitive measure for disobedient children, if your experience has been abusive then that is sad. But fear motives many to eat healthy, drive safe, don't smoke and many other things. Installing discipline with appropriate fear of just punishment is more loving than attempting to reason with an adolescent.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_c ... punishment

[Hyperion]

http://news.yahoo.com/ex-leader-guyana- ... 50819.html

Ex-leader of Guyana charged with inciting racial hatred
GEORGETOWN, Guyana (AP) — A former president of Guyana was released on bail after formally being charged Monday with inciting racial hatred ahead of general elections.

Bharrat Jagdeo was not required to enter a plea at the Monday court hearing before a magistrate in the southeastern Berbice region of the South American country. He led Guyana from 1999 to 2011.

The accusations against Jagdeo are linked to comments he allegedly made during campaigning for the political party he once led ahead of May 11 general elections.

The former president allegedly said Afro-Guyanese opposition activists were "beating drums" while urging citizens to throw out "Indo Trini" members of the People's Progressive Party dominated by people of Indian descent, like Jagdeo.

Opposition lawyer Christopher Ram pursued the case against Jagdeo, who is due back in court in June for preliminary hearings.

A multiethnic coalition led by retired army general David Granger defeated incumbent President Donald Ramotar and his People's Progressive Party in the vote earlier this month in Guyana, a country of nearly 750,000 made up mainly of people of Indian and African descent.

Granger, who formally took power in recent days and installed his Cabinet, has pledged to end racial divisions that have long marked politics in the small country on the north shoulder of South America.

[Redman]

Habit7, again it was not just me who was abused it was the entire class.

Secondly no first world country has corporal punishment allowed in schools and your assertion of having a backup plan is a bit odd? For me , the majority of teachers never beat and most controlled the class quite well. Beating or instiling fear is not the way to get kids to behave. Do you have a child?

Also crowds don't win elections, but they do have the effect of swaying the undecided.

Look at UNC in 2007, before their rally everyone count them out and said COP would be the one competing against PNM. That huge mid center rally changed everything and UNC under Panday, got 200k votes.

So crowds, like polls, do have influence.

I disagree.

If some one is undecided-there are specific reasons that have liitle to do with how other people think.

Or else they wouldnt be undecided at this point.

For me -I guess I would fall in the undecided class..there are issues that are unresolved in my mind as to the incumbents performance...at many levels.

The solution to that is information.

The vast majority of the people that attend these rallies are already supporters.

The balance are there to listen to what is communicated -not count people.

[pete]

Allyuh talking about corporal punishment. Why didn't the PNM fix that problem the 8 years they were there after the UNC implemented it in their last term? Is that something they will be addressing if elected?

Wasn't one of the main reasons it was banned to protect the teachers themselves from being attacked by crazy parents not liking that their kids got licks in school?

[Habit7]

Well for me fixing cp would be reinstating it but that would very difficult and disruptive to reverse policy. But the subsequent govts had to tackle discipline with one hand tied behind its back with increased suspensions, school psychologists, military lead teaching (MILAT/MIPAT) and school safety officers (former police and army as deans of discipline)

These all mitigate the problem but the horse already bolt out of the stable. Youth indiscipline is still getting worse.

[humbleservant]

I really think issues like climate change and environmental management are more important than corporal punishment..

The UNC government has done nothing to encourage or implement a proper waste recycling facility.

Anyone take a look at Trinidad from Google Earth and see how much land has been cleared for development and consider how this will affect climate change?

[pete]

To say they've done nothing is incorrect. They have bought the tyre shredding machines so that people now have an option to dispose of their tyres in a better way than burning them.

Maybe insignificant but it was something. :\

[humbleservant]

They can get a point for that but MUCH more can be done, and this is such an important aspect in society and the world.

That's just a spec of what can be achieved ..

An industry can be developed in recycling waste as well.....

This is why I am critical of this government because everyone saying they doing so much, but what about more serious issues. Nobody don't study that, because the majority of people in this country too short sighted to consider these things.

[Chimera]

You have to admit that they've done more for trinidad than the pnm did.

[humbleservant]

All governments have helped to develop the country. Pnm and UNC have done good.

Give Jack the Jacket, they did some good, but one needs to look at the bad too and boy I cant turn a blind eye to the BS, the scandals, the corruption.

Has any other government had an AG fired for witness tampering and blatant abuse of public office? So disappointing for a developed country in 2015 to have people we hold in high esteem to be nothing better than dog sheit. How should this reflect on the UNC?

What about Lifesport and Anil Roberts?

Sorry, but UNC can try to fool some of the people some of the time, but they cant fool all the people all the time...

[eliteauto]

You have to admit that they've done more for trinidad than the pnm did.

delusion level 11

[Daran]

You have to admit that they've done more for trinidad than the pnm did.

delusion level 11

ABA Trading LTD, is right though, stats will always show UNC to be a better performing party, albeit a party that is involved in more public scandals. The public perception is that PPG performs which is why they'll always garner more support from the undecided voters (NAR/COP type crowd that doesn't belong to 'till ah dead' group).


That said, I'm not solely looking at infrastructure type performance, despite it's extreme importance. I want to look at the policies and plan that don't often see immediate benefit, but have future down the line benefits.

Sustainable industries, adopting first world human rights type policies, making it easier for SMES, policies to fight crime and corruption etc, plans for make Trinidad a proper research center (Bhoe, Fazil and Cadiz actually doing some good work here).

Again, I'm being vague and there a good there's reason for that. Despite the importance of these things, both parties don't talk openly about these types of things and I think both underestimate the importance of these things on the swing votes.

I've conversed a lot with Bhoe and Kevin Ramnarine and both have done tremendous work in their respective Ministries, yet you don't hear about these things openly. I'm not excluding PNM, their former minister of public utilities surprised me with his level of knowledge and awareness of his Ministry.

But that said, most of PNM's ministers including Rowley were absolutely dismal in their performance and grew very very out of touch with the country. Are we forgetting how most PNM seemed to careless about runaway crime and inflation??

Can both parties (UML I giving you some wuk here), highlight initiatives/polices/plans taken and to be taken for out country? Thanks.

[Habit7]

I think we successively had govts that have done more than the prior. Each govt lays down a foundation for the other to build on.

In 2010 the PNM ran on the same campaign of unprecedented development and the UNC claimed that the development was too fast and money was wasted.

For me it comes down to stewardship and vision of said development.