COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago (Local Updates & Discussions Only)

[Dohplaydat]

Driving to POS and back this week as compared to last week its about the same , people all over. Almost half of the country "essential" , the minute we let we guard down and get complacent its game over.

Hello KM_2NR,

As you can see, things are NICE for the majority of the population. A real comfort zone with the hundreds of social media postings on how relaxed and how much of a joke this is to many.

The guard is somewhat up now because of these temporary stay at home measures. When lifted, Trinidadians will have learnt nothing from this pandemic....Time to party, wine, grine and laugh to the many songs and jokes that are to come. No care what so ever for preventative measures for a return of Covid 19.

Research Hantavirus in China...it may not much of a concern now, but let it be an awareness of what could happen again.

This is interesting because of many reasons.

Many many people think if we don't get a spike, during this period we can go back to business as usual. However, this was never about avoiding cases, it was about limiting the number of people that sick at once.

Unless we achieve herd immunity (far from it right now), or a vaccine is out, there's no 'protection' from this virus.

It will be here regardless, that is why all these idiots who were calling for closed borders before Carnival are idiots. THERE IS NO ESCAPE unless we have a vaccine.

Covid-19 was always going to come here, it is literally all over the f*cking world.

Back to getting back to business as usual, I truly feel we'll have to ease into otherwise, you're right, Trinis will get complacent and it will result in a spike of cases and deaths. We know this government is NOT prepared for that spike.

We have to adopt some sort of slow controlled reduction of these measures. In about 3 weeks or so, non-essentials can resume work and borders can be re-opened. A week or two after, bars, restaurants, gyms can re-open, but good hygiene and social distance should be encouraged. Crowds of over 25 should still be discouraged......a week or two later, change that to 499 (ala Sweden).

Then maybe 2 weeks after we can reduce all restrictions. My timeline.

April 28th - Non-essentials go back to work
May 11th - Bars, restaurants (dining in), gyms can re-open
May 26th - Crowds up to 499 permitted
June 15th - Everything allowed, back to normal but until a vaccine is out good hygiene and social distance should be encouraged.

Also, we need to bring down as much Anti-gen test kits as possible to understand where our herd immunity stands.

[toyolink]

The information both domestic and global which I have filtered so far seems to inform the following;
-Our proper event horizon is projected to be sometime during the period 15/04-25/04 factoring last week-end.
-The use of any form of respiratory protection (face-mask etc.) could only improve our exposure possibilities.
-Our health care process capabilities if confronted with a compatible case experience curve like USA, UK, or
would buckle.
-Our approach to testing needs to be more liberal and open minded to facilitate a more rapid accumulation of
information to inform imperatives which could give us the ability to get infront the curve.
-Using 1200 proven infected as our peak with a 7% inventilator support req'ment 52 dedicated units seem low
and should probably be somewhere in the order of 85 with appropriate staffing.
-The best means of mitigation resides in social distancing whether voluntary or involuntary.
-Unfortunately we may be looking at somewhere in the order of 60 deaths.
I am using these bits of infor and benchmarks to provide myself with some perspective on how to view this 'war'.
The next thing on my agenda is how to deal with the economic and business coma which has been thrown at all business owners.

[Dohplaydat]

The information both domestic and global which I have filtered so far seems to inform the following;
-Our proper event horizon is projected to be sometime during the period 15/04-25/04 factoring last week-end.
-The use of any form of respiratory protection (face-mask etc.) could only improve our exposure possibilities.
-Our health care process capabilities if confronted with a compatible case experience curve like USA, UK, or
would buckle.
-Our approach to testing needs to be more liberal and open minded to facilitate a more rapid accumulation of
information to inform imperatives which could give us the ability to get infront the curve.
-Using 1200 proven infected as our peak with a 7% inventilator support req'ment 52 dedicated units seem low
and should probably be somewhere in the order of 85 with appropriate staffing.
-The best means of mitigation resides in social distancing whether voluntary or involuntary.
-Unfortunately we may be looking at somewhere in the order of 60 deaths.
I am using these bits of infor and benchmarks to provide myself with some perspective on how to view this 'war'.
The next thing on my agenda is how to deal with the economic and business coma which has been thrown at all business owners.

If you extrapolate the populations from Italy/Spain, at our 'peak' which can last 2-3 weeks, we should be diagnosing ~200 cases per day. Roughly 20% would need hospitalization.

So, over a 2 week period, we'll need to take in at least 2000 patients, most requiring hospitalization for 5 days, so at any point during that peak, we'll need 1000 beds and at least 200 ventilators.

[The_Honourable]

Trinis.. please stop doing this

[bluefete]

Let the supermarkets make regular announcements to dispose of gloves in rubbish bins..

I know they should not have to do that but this is T&T.

[mamoo_pagal]

Pal if ppl leave Pampers in the trolleys what else is expected. Some ppl just disgusting

Trinis.. please stop doing this

[MaxPower]

Trinis.. please stop doing this

Typical nasty Trinidadian behavior....

They do it here and all over the world.

Covid 19 should not be the only reason to practice social distancing from Trinis.

[toyolink]

If you extrapolate the populations from Italy/Spain, at our 'peak' which can last 2-3 weeks, we should be diagnosing ~200 cases per day. Roughly 20% would need hospitalization.

So, over a 2 week period, we'll need to take in at least 2000 patients, most requiring hospitalization for 5 days, so at any point during that peak, we'll need 1000 beds and at least 200 ventilators.[/quote]

I didn't use the Italy and Spain numbers since I viewed their dynamics as a consequence of the extremely significant impact of their tourist and international traffic characteristics.
However if the 20,000 individuals who came in up to mid March do impact significantly (which we should have seen already) the experience of Italy and Spain may be on the cards.
What troubles me are lead times for ramping-up and if the MOH has programmed accordingly.
I must admit that given what we know about our public health care capabilities, my disposition is guardedly hopeful.

[K74T]

94

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

It's been exactly 3 weeks (21 days) since the first confirmed case of Covid-19 was reported in T&T and we are now at 94 confirmed cases, 5 deaths and only 1 recovery.

[Strugglerzinc]

Duterte says shoot them dead if they defy lockdown.

[paid_influencer]

that picture is why I do not use gloves. To be effective, you need to change gloves very often (more often than washing your hand) and you end up with a pile of disgusting used gloves.

the soap and water station outside is by far the best solution. Hope we see more of those stations everywhere.

[MaxPower]

Duterte says shoot them dead if they defy lockdown.

Hello Strugglerzinc,

My hero!!

His Grace, the Honorable Rodrigo Roa Duterte.

This man speaks from the heart and is exactly what we need in T&T.

Examples must be made for that wake up call.

[shake d livin wake d dead]

Duterte says shoot them dead if they defy lockdown.

Boss himself

[rspann]

It's been exactly 3 weeks (21 days) since the first confirmed case of Covid-19 was reported in T&T and we are now at 94 confirmed cases, 5 deaths and only 1 recovery.

Seeing that 49 of them came at once and got it the same place ( which wasn't here), we not doing too bad.

[paid_influencer]

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4 positive cases out of new 17 tests.

It is possible the testing yesterday was being very targeted. I'm glad they put at least a little note on these press releases so we know what's going on. 2 out of 4 are primary contacts, and one has history of recent travel.

The forth case is under "epidemiological investigation."

[pugboy]

We should hopefully see a reduction in “regular flu” as well with the extra precautions being taken by most folks now. So less wasted tests.

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4 positive cases out of new 17 tests.

It is possible the testing yesterday was being very targeted. I'm glad they put at least a little note on these press releases so we know what's going on. 2 out of 4 are primary contacts, and one has history of recent travel.

The forth case is under "epidemiological investigation."

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

Covid-19 cases surpass 1 million worldwide

(CNN)More than a million cases of the novel coronavirus have been confirmed worldwide while authorities in the United States continue issuing strict measures to slow down the spread of the virus.

As of Thursday afternoon, at least 1,002,159 people have been infected globally and 51,485 people have died from the virus, according to Johns Hopkins University statistics. The total includes confirmed cases from 180 countries and regions.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/02/health/u ... index.html

[toyolink]

Worldomter reporting 1,007,000.
The truth be told the number must be much higher due to the fact that many asymptomatic or mild cases just go unnoticed and there are countries that just don't have proper recording systems since their health care system is almost non-existent.

[EFFECTIC DESIGNS]

Can't believe this level of nonsense I am reading here on this website, you are suggesting that in 30 days the non essentials go back out to work? is this some kind of joke? we on strict quarantine and we still can't even slow the spread.

This is going to take at least 3 months before non essential can go back out to work and 6 months before bars can reopen. And this is all assuming that we somehow drive this back into the wild which is not going to happen until a vaccine is developed.

This dangerous advice of people going back out to work so soon in 30 days will do nothing but kill innocent people the rest will be coughing up blood and screaming in pain being left with lung damage etc.

[paid_influencer]

we are not on "strict" quarantine. We are on "honor system" quarantine at this point, there is no law or regulation saying you have to stay home.

[EFFECTIC DESIGNS]

How can we go back to work in 4 weeks when this spread isn't slowing and is expected to explode soon?

Makes no sense, for safety of the citizens this quarantine of non essential is most likely about 2 months I suspect. Also we have too many people clustered up together right now at banks and groceries etc why isn't anything being done about it?

I was out today for an important reason and the amount of cars on the road is way more than I normally expected. People still aren't listening or taking this situation seriously

[paid_influencer]

Barbados just announced strict quarantine
https://www.looptt.com/content/covid-19 ... r-curfew-4

per capita they have 4 times the number of cases as we do (leaving out the balandra group). I don't think we need that level of lockdown here long-term, but we should extend our current "flatten the curve" measures for longer.

[rspann]

ED ,everybody feel what they have to do is important. Not only you.

[pugboy]

So they don’t have any starboy lawyers complaining bout constitutional rights and ting with them restrictions?

Barbados just announced strict quarantine
https://www.looptt.com/content/covid-19 ... r-curfew-4

per capita they have 4 times the number of cases as we do (leaving out the balandra group). I don't think we need that level of lockdown here long-term, but we should extend our current "flatten the curve" measures for longer.

[MaxPower]

Them last 4 to make the 94 like its the family.

Better they check all the other customs officers.

[devrat]

It's been exactly 3 weeks (21 days) since the first confirmed case of Covid-19 was reported in T&T and we are now at 94 confirmed cases, 5 deaths and only 1 recovery.

Seeing that 49 of them came at once and got it the same place ( which wasn't here), we not doing too bad.

Bro...the 1st victim came in on the 5 Feb for Carnival, got sick on the 12 March......from where?? From when??? He was all over and lives Coconut Drive, literally a few streets from me in Gulf View so mall time, bar time, family time etc.
That one has me very concerned
At least my neighbors and Gulf View med taking this very seriously.

[Dohplaydat]

Can't believe this level of nonsense I am reading here on this website, you are suggesting that in 30 days the non essentials go back out to work? is this some kind of joke? we on strict quarantine and we still can't even slow the spread.

This is going to take at least 3 months before non essential can go back out to work and 6 months before bars can reopen. And this is all assuming that we somehow drive this back into the wild which is not going to happen until a vaccine is developed.

This dangerous advice of people going back out to work so soon in 30 days will do nothing but kill innocent people the rest will be coughing up blood and screaming in pain being left with lung damage etc.

ED there is no data supporting either of our views, however, what has happened in almost every country is this:

1. Covid-19 is discovered. But let's be real, given the asymptomatics, possibly lots of people had it and only the very sick was discovered as the 'first'.
2. More cases are discovered.
3. This occurs over 2-4 weeks, until cases start rising exponentially.
4. There is a decrease in new cases that so far, is very hard to say how long it lasts, we have no data except China who's data is not trustworthy.
5. Once there is a decrease, quarantine measures as stated by literally every government will be reduced slowly and managed, look at South Korea and Japan.

However, a trending reduction in daily cases means that the peak has reached and slowly measures can be reduced.

This is a virus that will be around until we vaccinate, which is ~18 months away.

You will get it eventually and for most of us, it won't be that bad. You have to be a mad man to think we non-essentials, bars and schools can remain closed to 3-6 more months.

The quarantine right now is to buy time and not overload the health facilities.

[screwbash]

all dis to forking depressing yes. i can now understand y d man jump off the building in italy. we all going to get this one way or the other. is just a matter when.

[toyolink]

all dis to forking depressing yes. i can now understand y d man jump off the building in italy. we all going to get this one way or the other. is just a matter when.

This is just another challenge we MUST confront and come to terms with.
Yes the prospects may mean a period filled with a bit of dark painful realities, but for those we care about and in cases depend on us, this battle must be confronted and won.
Realistic we may not eradicate covid19 but we can certainly bring it under control as one global society and your contribution matters.