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It's not sustainable nor is it right.Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Dizzy28 wrote:Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Dizzy28 wrote:You could go back as far you want and still not find a country to have ever existed called Palestine.Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Dizzy28 wrote:Could have been zero if Hamas and it's enablers released the hostages prior to yesterdayDuane 3NE 2NR wrote:lol oh snap, sorry, yes I did read it - what you posted looked like a headline from another article - but disclaimers on exact figures is nothing new.
200 maybe 201 maybe 210 maybe 180. Still high.
Could even consider if the Israeli govt treated everyone equally.
Could even go back to before the Balfour Declaration.
You are going to find numerous caliphates, empires and kingdoms.
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Is that what you base your stance on Israeli govt treatment of the Palestinian people in Gaza and West Bank on?
No, I base it on the illogical adherence to a reality that never existed. A reality that will not exist. Lamenting the past serves as nothing more than a reminder and a hindrance to the future.
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I can agree with that.
What about the Israeli govt treating everyone equally?
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:^ Israelis have a means to change only because they have been enabled for the past 75 years.
If the Palestinian people were not oppressed they could have been living there as citizens with no issues - there'd be no need for a Hamas or a PA.
it's 75 years of oppression, occupation and war with many Israelis wanting the Palestinians just wiped out - Palestinians have been brought to the point where there is no obvious and immediate governmental solution that does not feel hatred for their occupiers. Even more so now as many young people and children have witnessed the obliteration in this most recent conflict. And the masses of far-right, radically conservative, ultra-nationalist in Isreal won't lose their hatred soon either.
Dizzy28 wrote:Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:^ Israelis have a means to change only because they have been enabled for the past 75 years.
If the Palestinian people were not oppressed they could have been living there as citizens with no issues - there'd be no need for a Hamas or a PA.
it's 75 years of oppression, occupation and war with many Israelis wanting the Palestinians just wiped out - Palestinians have been brought to the point where there is no obvious and immediate governmental solution that does not feel hatred for their occupiers. Even more so now as many young people and children have witnessed the obliteration in this most recent conflict. And the masses of far-right, radically conservative, ultra-nationalist in Isreal won't lose their hatred soon either.
What are you rambiling on about my man??
Gaza has been Israel free since the unilateral disengagement in 2005. Hamas won the election held after that and never held one again.
Everything happening in there is a wholly a choice made by the Palestinian leadership. You really really hate giving agency to Hamas and Gazans
https://www.usip.org/palestinian-politi ... 6-election
adnj wrote:Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Al-Jazeera Denies Connection With Journalist Who Israel Says Held Hostages in His Home
“This man is not from Al-Jazeera, and he did not work for Al-Jazeera at all, and he is not listed as working for Al-Jazeera neither now nor in the past.”
“We do not know him, and all the rumors that have been spread are empty of content and not true at all,” he added. The Arabic-language news network plans to sue those who spread rumors of current connections between Al-Jazeera and al-Walid, the Times of Israel reported.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/al-jazeera-d ... 49492.html
Al Jazeera does have a profile page for Abdallah Aljamal.
https://www.aljazeera.com/author/abdall ... 2103235277
Fact checking addresses online misinformation with coverage that maintains accuracy, integrity and impartiality.
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:adnj wrote:Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Al-Jazeera Denies Connection With Journalist Who Israel Says Held Hostages in His Home
“This man is not from Al-Jazeera, and he did not work for Al-Jazeera at all, and he is not listed as working for Al-Jazeera neither now nor in the past.”
“We do not know him, and all the rumors that have been spread are empty of content and not true at all,” he added. The Arabic-language news network plans to sue those who spread rumors of current connections between Al-Jazeera and al-Walid, the Times of Israel reported.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/al-jazeera-d ... 49492.html
Al Jazeera does have a profile page for Abdallah Aljamal.
https://www.aljazeera.com/author/abdall ... 2103235277
Fact checking addresses online misinformation with coverage that maintains accuracy, integrity and impartiality.
So why remove some of the information?
U keep regurgitating the same nonsense justifications over and over .Dizzy28 wrote:Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:^ Israelis have a means to change only because they have been enabled for the past 75 years.
If the Palestinian people were not oppressed they could have been living there as citizens with no issues - there'd be no need for a Hamas or a PA.
it's 75 years of oppression, occupation and war with many Israelis wanting the Palestinians just wiped out - Palestinians have been brought to the point where there is no obvious and immediate governmental solution that does not feel hatred for their occupiers. Even more so now as many young people and children have witnessed the obliteration in this most recent conflict. And the masses of far-right, radically conservative, ultra-nationalist in Isreal won't lose their hatred soon either.
What are you rambiling on about my man??
Gaza has been Israel free since the unilateral disengagement in 2005. Hamas won the election held after that and never held one again.
Everything happening in there is a wholly a choice made by the Palestinian leadership. You really really hate giving agency to Hamas and Gazans
https://www.usip.org/palestinian-politi ... 6-election
Hamas chose to continue firing rockets at Israel immediately after disengagement, 1,000 in the first year in fact. They are blockaded because they are not peaceful, it's not that they are not peaceful because they are blockaded. The blockade started in 2007.Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Dizzy28 wrote:Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:^ Israelis have a means to change only because they have been enabled for the past 75 years.
If the Palestinian people were not oppressed they could have been living there as citizens with no issues - there'd be no need for a Hamas or a PA.
it's 75 years of oppression, occupation and war with many Israelis wanting the Palestinians just wiped out - Palestinians have been brought to the point where there is no obvious and immediate governmental solution that does not feel hatred for their occupiers. Even more so now as many young people and children have witnessed the obliteration in this most recent conflict. And the masses of far-right, radically conservative, ultra-nationalist in Isreal won't lose their hatred soon either.
What are you rambiling on about my man??
Gaza has been Israel free since the unilateral disengagement in 2005. Hamas won the election held after that and never held one again.
Everything happening in there is a wholly a choice made by the Palestinian leadership. You really really hate giving agency to Hamas and Gazans
https://www.usip.org/palestinian-politi ... 6-election
You are ignoring the blockades on Gaza and the treatment of Palestinians in Gaza, Israel and the occupied West Bank by the Israeli Govt.
Do you think the Israeli actions are justified but Gazans are not allowed to retaliate?
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:^ and I also posted Al Jazeera does have a profile page for Abdallah Aljamal, though it lists only one article which he is the co-author and it is an op-ed.
https://www.aljazeera.com/author/abdall ... 2103235277
adnj wrote:Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:^ and I also posted Al Jazeera does have a profile page for Abdallah Aljamal, though it lists only one article which he is the co-author and it is an op-ed.
https://www.aljazeera.com/author/abdall ... 2103235277
I read the two articles that you cited - and in fact, much earlier than the publication of your post. I quoted your post knowing full well those article's content and scope.
The salient point is that Al-Jazeera's Jerusalem bureau chief neglected to verify factual information from his own newspaper but rather provided a glaring instance of the publication's readiness to publish misinformation.
How many civilians hamas killed compared to Israel ?Dizzy28 wrote:Hamas chose to continue firing rockets at Israel immediately after disengagement, 1,000 in the first year in fact. They are blockaded because they are not peaceful, it's not that they are not peaceful because they are blockaded. The blockade started in 2007.Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Dizzy28 wrote:Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:^ Israelis have a means to change only because they have been enabled for the past 75 years.
If the Palestinian people were not oppressed they could have been living there as citizens with no issues - there'd be no need for a Hamas or a PA.
it's 75 years of oppression, occupation and war with many Israelis wanting the Palestinians just wiped out - Palestinians have been brought to the point where there is no obvious and immediate governmental solution that does not feel hatred for their occupiers. Even more so now as many young people and children have witnessed the obliteration in this most recent conflict. And the masses of far-right, radically conservative, ultra-nationalist in Isreal won't lose their hatred soon either.
What are you rambiling on about my man??
Gaza has been Israel free since the unilateral disengagement in 2005. Hamas won the election held after that and never held one again.
Everything happening in there is a wholly a choice made by the Palestinian leadership. You really really hate giving agency to Hamas and Gazans
https://www.usip.org/palestinian-politi ... 6-election
You are ignoring the blockades on Gaza and the treatment of Palestinians in Gaza, Israel and the occupied West Bank by the Israeli Govt.
Do you think the Israeli actions are justified but Gazans are not allowed to retaliate?
Also who else is blockading them?
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Dizzy28 wrote:Hamas chose to continue firing rockets at Israel immediately after disengagement, 1,000 in the first year in fact. They are blockaded because they are not peaceful, it's not that they are not peaceful because they are blockaded. The blockade started in 2007.Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Dizzy28 wrote:Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:^ Israelis have a means to change only because they have been enabled for the past 75 years.
If the Palestinian people were not oppressed they could have been living there as citizens with no issues - there'd be no need for a Hamas or a PA.
it's 75 years of oppression, occupation and war with many Israelis wanting the Palestinians just wiped out - Palestinians have been brought to the point where there is no obvious and immediate governmental solution that does not feel hatred for their occupiers. Even more so now as many young people and children have witnessed the obliteration in this most recent conflict. And the masses of far-right, radically conservative, ultra-nationalist in Isreal won't lose their hatred soon either.
What are you rambiling on about my man??
Gaza has been Israel free since the unilateral disengagement in 2005. Hamas won the election held after that and never held one again.
Everything happening in there is a wholly a choice made by the Palestinian leadership. You really really hate giving agency to Hamas and Gazans
https://www.usip.org/palestinian-politi ... 6-election
You are ignoring the blockades on Gaza and the treatment of Palestinians in Gaza, Israel and the occupied West Bank by the Israeli Govt.
Do you think the Israeli actions are justified but Gazans are not allowed to retaliate?
Also who else is blockading them? Screenshot_20240611-100258.jpg
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Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:adnj wrote:Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:^ and I also posted Al Jazeera does have a profile page for Abdallah Aljamal, though it lists only one article which he is the co-author and it is an op-ed.
https://www.aljazeera.com/author/abdall ... 2103235277
I read the two articles that you cited - and in fact, much earlier than the publication of your post. I quoted your post knowing full well those article's content and scope.
The salient point is that Al-Jazeera's Jerusalem bureau chief neglected to verify factual information from his own newspaper but rather provided a glaring instance of the publication's readiness to publish misinformation.
Please feel free to attempt to reconcile these two at your leisure.
An op-ed writer has to be an employee?
adnj wrote:Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:adnj wrote:Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:^ and I also posted Al Jazeera does have a profile page for Abdallah Aljamal, though it lists only one article which he is the co-author and it is an op-ed.
https://www.aljazeera.com/author/abdall ... 2103235277
I read the two articles that you cited - and in fact, much earlier than the publication of your post. I quoted your post knowing full well those article's content and scope.
The salient point is that Al-Jazeera's Jerusalem bureau chief neglected to verify factual information from his own newspaper but rather provided a glaring instance of the publication's readiness to publish misinformation.
Please feel free to attempt to reconcile these two at your leisure.
An op-ed writer has to be an employee?
Please feel free to attempt to reconcile these two at your leisure:
1.
"An op-ed writer has to be an employee?"
2.
Al-Jazeera's Jerusalem bureau chief denies Israel's claim that journalist Abdullah Al-Jamal worked for the outlet:
- "not from Al-Jazeera"
- "he did not work for Al-Jazeera at all"
- "not listed as working for Al-Jazeera neither now nor in the past"
- "We do not know him"
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Dizzy28 wrote:Hamas chose to continue firing rockets at Israel immediately after disengagement, 1,000 in the first year in fact. They are blockaded because they are not peaceful, it's not that they are not peaceful because they are blockaded. The blockade started in 2007.Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Dizzy28 wrote:Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:^ Israelis have a means to change only because they have been enabled for the past 75 years.
If the Palestinian people were not oppressed they could have been living there as citizens with no issues - there'd be no need for a Hamas or a PA.
it's 75 years of oppression, occupation and war with many Israelis wanting the Palestinians just wiped out - Palestinians have been brought to the point where there is no obvious and immediate governmental solution that does not feel hatred for their occupiers. Even more so now as many young people and children have witnessed the obliteration in this most recent conflict. And the masses of far-right, radically conservative, ultra-nationalist in Isreal won't lose their hatred soon either.
What are you rambiling on about my man??
Gaza has been Israel free since the unilateral disengagement in 2005. Hamas won the election held after that and never held one again.
Everything happening in there is a wholly a choice made by the Palestinian leadership. You really really hate giving agency to Hamas and Gazans
https://www.usip.org/palestinian-politi ... 6-election
You are ignoring the blockades on Gaza and the treatment of Palestinians in Gaza, Israel and the occupied West Bank by the Israeli Govt.
Do you think the Israeli actions are justified but Gazans are not allowed to retaliate?
Also who else is blockading them? Screenshot_20240611-100258.jpg
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The majority of rockets seem to be after the blockade.
And before 2005 there was occupation and oppression.
Egypt has stated that Palestinians should live freely in their own land.
I’m not saying Hamas is not a militant violent group. I am saying that if Israel treated Palestinians equally there would never have been a Hamas ruling Gaza in the first place.
adnj wrote:
Al-Jazeera must have a bio page for lots of people that "[they] do not know." And apparently there is a Jerusalem bureau chief that is willing to make a very strong public statement regarding his newspaper's organizational ties without exerting the minimum effort necessary to verify his facts with his own newspaper.
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:adnj wrote:
Al-Jazeera must have a bio page for lots of people that "[they] do not know." And apparently there is a Jerusalem bureau chief that is willing to make a very strong public statement regarding his newspaper's organizational ties without exerting the minimum effort necessary to verify his facts with his own newspaper.
Most website content management systems automatically make a profile page for guest authors, op-eds, co-authors etc.
Our own Wordpress CMS does that automatically, the formatting would be different based on the theme etc as we don't have profile photos or bios of our authors.
The main author can log in and enter a name and contact for the co-author. The co-author does not even need to log-in.
The CMS just creates a page and lists all their articles.
Ours too lists all the articles written by the contributing author and it is done either by them logging in or the main author adding their name at the time of publishing.
e.g. https://www.trinituner.com/v4/author/dumplin/
This author is not an employee of TriniTuner. He is a freelancer that also writes and does photography for the newspapers, Caribbean Beat etc. He is not an employee for them either and I doubt the Editor in Chief of Newsday or Caribbean Beat would say they know him or of him since it would probably be a section content manager that sourced the photos or article from the author.
I don't know what their protocol at Al Jazeera is but in the case of Abdallah Aljamal he appears to be listed as a co-author of only one op-ed written by Ramzy Baroud who lists Abdallah Aljamal as a co-author on a single article from 2019.
https://www.aljazeera.com/author/abdall ... 2103235277
If there were numerous recent articles main-authored by Abdallah Aljamal on Al Jazeera I'd say without a doubt that he can be referred to as "an Al Jazeera journalist". But as it is, I don't think he can put that as his job description.
As I said before, if however it shows he is on Al jazeera's Jerusalem payroll then their Jerusalem bureau chief is lying
... and Abdallah Aljamal is one seriously under-performing employee for not contributing anything for the past 5 years but still getting paid.
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sMASH wrote:The only just way to deal with oppression is residence .
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The UN charter also affirms Israel's right to self-defense.coltspeed wrote:sMASH wrote:The only just way to deal with oppression is residence .
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United Nations General Assembly (UNGA) has explicitly affirmed the right of Palestinians to resist Israel’s military occupation, including through armed struggle. This right was affirmed in the context of the right to self-determination of all peoples under foreign and colonial rule.
Dizzy28 wrote:The UN charter also affirms Israel's right to self-defense.coltspeed wrote:sMASH wrote:The only just way to deal with oppression is residence .
Aks Moses IMG_20240602_195902.jpg
United Nations General Assembly (UNGA) has explicitly affirmed the right of Palestinians to resist Israel’s military occupation, including through armed struggle. This right was affirmed in the context of the right to self-determination of all peoples under foreign and colonial rule.
If taking babies is considered armed resistance guess what ....you going to have to learn to dodge 155mm artillery shells in your little enclave.
Gaza return the Bibas boys yet? Screenshot_20240613-063733.jpgScreenshot_20240613-063603.jpgScreenshot_20240613-062951.jpg
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Fake Zionists newsDizzy28 wrote:The UN charter also affirms Israel's right to self-defense.coltspeed wrote:sMASH wrote:The only just way to deal with oppression is residence .
Aks Moses IMG_20240602_195902.jpg
United Nations General Assembly (UNGA) has explicitly affirmed the right of Palestinians to resist Israel’s military occupation, including through armed struggle. This right was affirmed in the context of the right to self-determination of all peoples under foreign and colonial rule.
If taking babies is considered armed resistance guess what ....you going to have to learn to dodge 155mm artillery shells in your little enclave.
Gaza return the Bibas boys yet?
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