Ukraine Russia War

[shogun]

Breakin' News White Nationalist/Nazi organizations rise by 55% between 2016-2020 in the US.
Tuner GQP: Flatline.
Breakin' News Putin invades the sovereign nation of Ukraine and is now indiscriminately targeting civilians.
Tuner GQP: But but, Ukraine's Nazi's bro!

[De Dragon]

Breakin' News White Nationalist/Nazi organizations rise by 55% between 2016-2020 in the US.
Tuner GQP: Flatline.
Breakin' News Putin invades the sovereign nation of Ukraine and is now indiscriminately targeting civilians.
Tuner GQP: But but, Ukraine's Nazi's bro!

Erectile, Inferior Woman, or Caxxos go run een jes' now........

[The_Honourable]

Europe's largest nuclear power plant on fire after Russian attack, says local mayor

BORODYANKA/LVIV, Ukraine, March 4 (Reuters) - The Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant in Ukraine, the largest of its kind in Europe, was on fire early on Friday after an attack by Russian troops, the mayor of the nearby town of Energodar said.

There has been fierce fighting between local forces and Russian troops, Dmytro Orlov said in an online post, adding that there had been casualties without giving details.

Earlier, Ukrainian authorities reported Russian troops were stepping up efforts to seize the plant and had entered the town with tanks.

"As a result of continuous enemy shelling of buildings and units of the largest nuclear power plant in Europe, the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant is on fire," Orlov said on his Telegram channel, citing what he called a threat to world security. He did not give details.

Reuters could not immediately verify the information, including the potential seriousness of any fire.

The invasion of Ukraine is entering its ninth day. Thousands are thought to have died or been wounded as the biggest attack on a European state since World War Two unfolds, creating 1 million refugees, hits to Russia's economy, and fears of wider conflict in the West unthought-of for decades.

Russia has already captured the defunct Chernobyl plant, some 100 kilometres (62 miles) north of Ukraine's capital, Kyiv.

On Thursday, the United States and Britain announced sanctions on more oligarchs, following on from EU measures, as they ratcheted up the pressure on the Kremlin.

Included was Russian tycoon Alisher Usmanov, the founder of mining company Metalloinvest.

Visa restrictions will be imposed on 19 Russian oligarchs, their family members and associates, the White House said.

Sanctions have "had a profound impact already," said U.S. President Joe Biden.

Russia calls its actions in Ukraine a "special operation" that is not designed to occupy territory but to destroy its neighbour's military capabilities and capture what it regards as dangerous nationalists. It denies targeting civilians.

Source: https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/ ... 022-03-04/

[The_Honourable]

Attack of Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant. Live stream:

[redmanjp]

fire was in a training building outside nuclear plant

[Mmoney607]

All this deading and putin still going to take Ukraine anyway. Just like covid, idiots causing unnecessary deaths. If the man want Ukraine, let him have it!

[sMASH]

neo nazis and renegade militias that think the army is too soft.

[The_Honourable]

So far, fire contained and radiation levels normal for now. IAEA on 24/7 alert

"IAEA puts its Incident and Emergency Centre (@IAEAIEC) in full 24/7 response mode due to serious situation at #Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant in #Ukraine."

https://twitter.com/iaeaorg/status/1499582507653681186

[De Dragon]

All this deading and putin still going to take Ukraine anyway. Just like covid, idiots causing unnecessary deaths. If the man want Ukraine, let him have it!

The ignorance is strong in this one!

[adnj]

Ukrainian authorities say citizens don't need to declare captured Russian tanks and military equipment for tax purposes


[Size=small]A fragment of a destroyed Russian tank on the outskirts of Kharkiv, Ukraine, on February 26.[/size]

Ukrainian authorities said captured Russian tanks wouldn't be counted as part of citizens' income.

They said that seized tanks and military equipment need not be declared for tax purposes.

They said such items would be considered a "manifestation of the unity and cohesion" of Ukrainians.

Ukrainian authorities have reassured citizens that they don't need to declare captured Russian tanks or any equipment they pick up as personal income.

"Have you captured a Russian tank or armored personnel carrier and are worried about how to declare it? Keep calm and continue to defend the Motherland!" a statement from the Ukrainian National Agency on Corruption Prevention seen by Interfax-Ukraine said.

"There is no need to declare the captured Russian tanks and other equipment, because the cost of this ... does not exceed 100 living wages," or 248,100 Ukrainian hryvnia, the agency said, according to Interfax-Ukraine. The sum equates to about $8,300.

https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine ... ome-2022-3

[daring dragoon]

did ukrain have the financial backing of the amerika to create bio wepons? is that why rusia and peutin said that the voldomare should be jailed for crimes against humanity etc and for being a natzy ?
donald trump was right about covid and yet everyone believed joe. is donald and peutin men of vison and see what is right and not be hood winked by WHO, NATO and CNN ?

[fokhan_96]

All this deading and putin still going to take Ukraine anyway. Just like covid, idiots causing unnecessary deaths. If the man want Ukraine, let him have it!

Although this statement seems cold, it is the reality. Ukrainians put up a fight with the hope that they will get some outside help... this didn't happen. Also Putin did not send the entire Russian army to Ukraine, just a fraction of it to shake up the Ukrainians in hope they would surrender... this did not work. So now Putin is getting annoyed and impatient, lord knows what he would do next.

[Dohplaydat]

All this deading and putin still going to take Ukraine anyway. Just like covid, idiots causing unnecessary deaths. If the man want Ukraine, let him have it!

Although this statement seems cold, it is the reality. Ukrainians put up a fight with the hope that they will get some outside help... this didn't happen. Also Putin did not send the entire Russian army to Ukraine, just a fraction of it to shake up the Ukrainians in hope they would surrender... this did not work. So now Putin is getting annoyed and impatient, lord knows what he would do next.

Russia has an entire airforce (barely used) and far strong weapons to use. So far they still haven't used their full force yet. They had started more harsh measures in recent days though.

Eitherway, Zalenskyy is making several calls last few days for NATO to get involved, calling for a no-fly zone and saying the Baltic states are next.

Wanna know why?

NATO will probably get involved and this is the 'propaganda' being used to gain public support for NATO intervention.

But we'll see, I hope it doesn't come to that. Ukraine will eventually fall, Russia will makes sure of it.

[Dohplaydat]

Some interesting points raised by a War game simulation between Ukraine and Russia.

https://warontherocks.com/2022/03/the-w ... s-ukraine/

One must be very careful when using a wargame for predictive purposes. But, on the other hand, no one involved in this wargame has been much surprised by anything unfolding on the ground. Almost all of it took place within the game or was discussed at length among the players. This is in contrast with nearly every expert and pundit on the airwaves, who are expressing astonishment at how this conflict is unfolding. If this wargame had been played at the Pentagon or the White House in the weeks leading up to the war, no strategist or policymaker would be shocked by any event so far seen in the war.

The heroic resistance of the Ukrainians inspires awe and admiration. Still, their forces are greatly outnumbered, particularly in the air. Moreover, Russia’s capacity to concentrate vast ground fires — artillery, rockets, and missiles — still allows the Russian army to overwhelm the Ukrainians at any chosen point. If history provides any glimpse into the future, the Russian army will eventually uncoil, absorb the war’s early lessons, and renew its advance with grim determination. Russia was preparing to do precisely that when the wargame ended. Still, one hopes that Western pressure, and the infliction of unacceptable losses upon Putin’s legions will create an opening for a negotiated peace.

Credentials of the three authors of the article:

James Lacey, Ph.D., holds the Horner Chair of War Studies at Marine Corps University.

Tim Barrick is a retired Marine Corps colonel and the director of wargaming at Marine Corps University.

Nathan Barrick, Ph.D., a strategist at US Special Operations Command, is currently a student at the Marine Corps War College and a former U.S. Army Russian foreign area officer.

Justification of the article: This article is from three military professionals about their area of expertise and is relevant to our areas of study.

[timelapse]

All this deading and putin still going to take Ukraine anyway. Just like covid, idiots causing unnecessary deaths. If the man want Ukraine, let him have it!

Although this statement seems cold, it is the reality. Ukrainians put up a fight with the hope that they will get some outside help... this didn't happen. Also Putin did not send the entire Russian army to Ukraine, just a fraction of it to shake up the Ukrainians in hope they would surrender... this did not work. So now Putin is getting annoyed and impatient, lord knows what he would do next.

Not just that.Ukrainians are true patriots and will not bow in fear or simp towards foreigners.
Imagine if was Trinidad getting invaded by Russia.They fair skinned, some men here woulda give them the whole hog

[sMASH]

white supremacy ultranationalists.

[adnj]

All this deading and putin still going to take Ukraine anyway. Just like covid, idiots causing unnecessary deaths. If the man want Ukraine, let him have it!

Although this statement seems cold, it is the reality. Ukrainians put up a fight with the hope that they will get some outside help... this didn't happen. Also Putin did not send the entire Russian army to Ukraine, just a fraction of it to shake up the Ukrainians in hope they would surrender... this did not work. So now Putin is getting annoyed and impatient, lord knows what he would do next.

Not just that.Ukrainians are true patriots and will not bow in fear or simp towards foreigners.
Imagine if was Trinidad getting invaded by Russia.They fair skinned, some men here woulda give them the whole hog

Ukraine was invaded by Russia in 1919, Germany in 1941 and again declared independence in 1991.

I seriously doubt that any country will be capable of preventing Ukraine from again declaring independence in my lifetime.

[Dizzy28]

Verified videos last night has shown trains leaving the Pacific side of Russia with armour and heavy artillery. These trains will take 6 days to reach Ukraine. If they really are bringing in Pacific divisions the losses in Ukraine have been tremendous or they intend to do a massive destructive push which would be bad for the civilians.

Either way NATO has surely seen the massive limitations of the conventional Red army. I'm sure there is less worry that Russian tanks would roll into Berlin than before. Russia would also figure out some weakness but sanctions may prevent them from fixing it in the short term.

Also supposedly thier air force's best pilots are in Syria and the ones in Ukraine have less flight hours (as little as 80 per year). They didn't think they would need quality air support.


On another note Russia is losing faith with even some of their close allies. The UN Human rights Commission voted to investigate their war crimes and Venezuela, China and Cuba abstained. Only Eritrea bites with Russia. A

Also holy Shiite how does China, Eritrea, Cuba and Venezuela end up on a human rights commission????

All this deading and putin still going to take Ukraine anyway. Just like covid, idiots causing unnecessary deaths. If the man want Ukraine, let him have it!

Although this statement seems cold, it is the reality. Ukrainians put up a fight with the hope that they will get some outside help... this didn't happen. Also Putin did not send the entire Russian army to Ukraine, just a fraction of it to shake up the Ukrainians in hope they would surrender... this did not work. So now Putin is getting annoyed and impatient, lord knows what he would do next.

Russia has an entire airforce (barely used) and far strong weapons to use. So far they still haven't used their full force yet. They had started more harsh measures in recent days though.

Eitherway, Zalenskyy is making several calls last few days for NATO to get involved, calling for a no-fly zone and saying the Baltic states are next.

Wanna know why?

NATO will probably get involved and this is the 'propaganda' being used to gain public support for NATO intervention.

But we'll see, I hope it doesn't come to that. Ukraine will eventually fall, Russia will makes sure of it.

[pugboy]

are you aware those commissions and councils are simply talk shops?

they only really serve to bother lesser nations
like how they don’t approve of us denying vene illegals to cross the sea and land here

[Dizzy28]

The only thing strong about the UN is the five security council members with their veto power.

Everything else is talk shops.

are you aware those commissions and councils are simply talk shops?

they only really serve to bother lesser nations
like how they don’t approve of us denying vene illegals to cross the sea and land here

[MaxPower]

Russia has an entire airforce (barely used) and far strong weapons to use. So far they still haven't used their full force yet. They had started more harsh measures in recent days though.

Eitherway, Zalenskyy is making several calls last few days for NATO to get involved, calling for a no-fly zone and saying the Baltic states are next.

Wanna know why?

NATO will probably get involved and this is the 'propaganda' being used to gain public support for NATO intervention.

But we'll see, I hope it doesn't come to that. Ukraine will eventually fall, Russia will makes sure of it.

X3000.

Many are underestimating the Russians.

They have the best and most advanced military in the world and they are fully aware of their capabilities and the Ukrainians’.

Honestly i don’t think anyone genuinely cares about Ukraine and as i said before, Ukraine ain’t worth starting a world war.

Those helping the Ukrainians are simply doing it for attention. All this help Ukraine is getting and they still have not defeated/deterred the Russians.

Help the people to win, not delay their death.

People watching too much movies like Braveheart and 300.

[adnj]

[size=large]Russia's financial "fortress" falters under the West's sanctions[/size]

Russia spent seven years building a financial “fortress” that could help it withstand the impact of sanctions imposed by the West — and the keystone was $630 billion in central bank foreign exchange reserves.



Driving the news: Presumably, Russia didn’t expect the G7 nations to go so far as to freeze those reserves, which they did this week — a move nearly unprecedented in scope.

Why it matters: That fortress isn’t so strong after all if Russia can't use its billions to support its war efforts and fund domestic spending.

The G7 has locked up nearly $400 billion of that money, according to estimates by the Atlantic Council's GeoEconomics Center.

Backstory: Since March 2014, Russia has cut its foreign assets held in the U.S. and Europe, while increasing those in China and Japan, as well as its domestic gold holdings, the FT reports.

The big question: How will China handle Russia's yuan assets? China's not expected to freeze them — but faces a dilemma in how to aid its strategic partner, Russia, without running afoul of Western sanctions, Bloomberg writes.

https://www.axios.com/russia-economy-sa ... c3472.html

[pugboy]

veto is a mechanism provided to work against the collective vote

so it is really a built in counterproductive measure at the end of the day

The only thing strong about the UN is the five security council members with their veto power.

Everything else is talk shops.

are you aware those commissions and councils are simply talk shops?

they only really serve to bother lesser nations
like how they don’t approve of us denying vene illegals to cross the sea and land here

[adnj]

Many are underestimating the Russians.

They have the best and most advanced military in the world and they are fully aware of their capabilities and the Ukrainians’.

Best and most advanced? Probably not.

[Dizzy28]

It's time to add at least 5 new permanent members and dilute the veto.

veto is a mechanism provided to work against the collective vote

so it is really a built in counterproductive measure at the end of the day

The only thing strong about the UN is the five security council members with their veto power.

Everything else is talk shops.

are you aware those commissions and councils are simply talk shops?

they only really serve to bother lesser nations
like how they don’t approve of us denying vene illegals to cross the sea and land here

[adnj]

veto is a mechanism provided to work against the collective vote

so it is really a built in counterproductive measure at the end of the day

The only thing strong about the UN is the five security council members with their veto power.

Everything else is talk shops.

are you aware those commissions and councils are simply talk shops?

they only really serve to bother lesser nations
like how they don’t approve of us denying vene illegals to cross the sea and land here

There’s an esoteric maneuver to get around a threatened veto: invoking the obscure U.N. Resolution 377, also known as the “Uniting for Peace” Resolution. In early 1950, the United States pushed through the resolution as a means of circumventing possible Soviet vetoes. The measure states that, in the event that the Security Council cannot maintain international peace, a matter can be taken up by the General Assembly. This procedure has been used 10 times so far, most notably in 1956 to help resolve the Suez Canal crisis. Britain and France, which were occupying parts of the canal at the time, vetoed Security Council resolutions calling for their withdrawal. The United States called for an emergency “Uniting for Peace” session of the General Assembly, which passed a withdrawal resolution. (A simple majority vote is required.) Britain and France pulled out shortly after.

Yet these non-Security Council resolutions are more symbolic pressure tactics than anything else. The council still maintains responsibility for enforcement, so naysayers among the permanent members can likely prevent the actual dispatching of troops. Nor, as history has shown, will all nations buckle like Britain and France did in 1956. In 1980, the General Assembly convened in a “Uniting for Peace” session and passed a resolution demanding the Soviet Union’s withdrawal from Afghanistan. The Soviets merely shrugged.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/200 ... -veto.html

[pugboy]

“merely shrugged”

[pugboy]

doesn’t a veto only require one person to veto and entire process fail?

It's time to add at least 5 new permanent members and dilute the veto.

veto is a mechanism provided to work against the collective vote

so it is really a built in counterproductive measure at the end of the day

The only thing strong about the UN is the five security council members with their veto power.

Everything else is talk shops.

are you aware those commissions and councils are simply talk shops?

they only really serve to bother lesser nations
like how they don’t approve of us denying vene illegals to cross the sea and land here

[Dizzy28]

Yes. But for example a middle power such as India who has consistently had the backing of Russia at the Security Council having veto power means they can vote against as opposed to abstain or be absent on votes on Russia.

doesn’t a veto only require one person to veto and entire process fail?

It's time to add at least 5 new permanent members and dilute the veto.

veto is a mechanism provided to work against the collective vote

so it is really a built in counterproductive measure at the end of the day

The only thing strong about the UN is the five security council members with their veto power.

Everything else is talk shops.

are you aware those commissions and councils are simply talk shops?

they only really serve to bother lesser nations
like how they don’t approve of us denying vene illegals to cross the sea and land here

also I don't anticipate the removal of the veto as a starter for the current 5 which would make more sense to add more vetos.

[VII]

Putin seems to be prepared to forego any operational deficit in this conflict with the threat of nuclear aggression if ultimately cornered.

He's playing his cards hard .

Never have I seen in my life or in modern history a leader play the nuke threat game as directly as Putin has been over the last couple weeks.

When weighed out properly Ukraine will have to be left alone to negotiate with their big brother . The US/NATO/West isn't going to risk it all for an Eastern European country bordering Russia, no matter how much common global consumerism and social media makes them seem alike .

It would take much more than that for the West to engage Russia directly in an all out war after Russia has laid their cards out on the table .