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zoom rader wrote:eliteauto wrote:zoom rader wrote:Don't bother with elite , he full ah 5hit.Rovin wrote:^^^ dise true
look at very recently with Louise lee sing ...
Don't know he hope to fool with that BS
So you're anti-PNM but saying that multiple non-PNM parties equals a PNM victory, so you're saying is better yuh vote PNM and done then?
Me saying people have a right to offer themselves, me saying I respect and endorse that right is BS and I'm full of 5hit. You saying people offering themselves is a lost cause because of the PNM, you blaming PNM voters for other parties losing is straight up brilliance though
Zoom pro-PNM oui
Only when we have free thinkers in TT then a third party is an option .
As it stands PNM will win if there are 2 different parties and PNM in one district .
If however PNM is up against a Non UNC only party ( 1 to 1) then its possible depending on that district that the Non PNM party may win.
You self lol , you really asking for too much here from zoom.eliteauto wrote:zoom rader wrote:eliteauto wrote:zoom rader wrote:Don't bother with elite , he full ah 5hit.Rovin wrote:^^^ dise true
look at very recently with Louise lee sing ...
Don't know he hope to fool with that BS
So you're anti-PNM but saying that multiple non-PNM parties equals a PNM victory, so you're saying is better yuh vote PNM and done then?
Me saying people have a right to offer themselves, me saying I respect and endorse that right is BS and I'm full of 5hit. You saying people offering themselves is a lost cause because of the PNM, you blaming PNM voters for other parties losing is straight up brilliance though
Zoom pro-PNM oui
Only when we have free thinkers in TT then a third party is an option .
As it stands PNM will win if there are 2 different parties and PNM in one district .
If however PNM is up against a Non UNC only party ( 1 to 1) then its possible depending on that district that the Non PNM party may win.
Again contradictory logic, what defines a "free thinker" in your book? We have a 2 party system here, many are expressing discord with BOTH parties, yet you link any other party as being in favor of one the PNM when it comes to votes, ok lets say that is correct, maybe this election favors the PNM but we see an emergence of a third option that can build it's strength leading up to 2025, let's say that party can usurp the UNC and become the next viable candidate then, should that option not occur now because it's inconvenient to the UNC? In a 1 to 1 fight now do you favor the UNC's chances in the upcoming election? Will those chances be significantly affected by the PF? So what of the PEP, COP, Independents like Errol Fabien, NNV, NJAC, MSJ etc? Should they all fold or not contests and hold their hand until we get some more "free thinkers" ?
Many expressing discord is a myth.eliteauto wrote:zoom rader wrote:eliteauto wrote:zoom rader wrote:Don't bother with elite , he full ah 5hit.Rovin wrote:^^^ dise true
look at very recently with Louise lee sing ...
Don't know he hope to fool with that BS
So you're anti-PNM but saying that multiple non-PNM parties equals a PNM victory, so you're saying is better yuh vote PNM and done then?
Me saying people have a right to offer themselves, me saying I respect and endorse that right is BS and I'm full of 5hit. You saying people offering themselves is a lost cause because of the PNM, you blaming PNM voters for other parties losing is straight up brilliance though
Zoom pro-PNM oui
Only when we have free thinkers in TT then a third party is an option .
As it stands PNM will win if there are 2 different parties and PNM in one district .
If however PNM is up against a Non UNC only party ( 1 to 1) then its possible depending on that district that the Non PNM party may win.
Again contradictory logic, what defines a "free thinker" in your book? We have a 2 party system here, many are expressing discord with BOTH parties, yet you link any other party as being in favor of one the PNM when it comes to votes, ok lets say that is correct, maybe this election favors the PNM but we see an emergence of a third option that can build it's strength leading up to 2025, let's say that party can usurp the UNC and become the next viable candidate then, should that option not occur now because it's inconvenient to the UNC? In a 1 to 1 fight now do you favor the UNC's chances in the upcoming election? Will those chances be significantly affected by the PF? So what of the PEP, COP, Independents like Errol Fabien, NNV, NJAC, MSJ etc? Should they all fold or not contests and hold their hand until we get some more "free thinkers" ?
Nah, I have no white blood in meDizzy28 wrote:Kinna saw this argument with Trevor Noah a few nights ago. He was referring to John Bolton int he aftermath of his book and who said he definitely will not vote for Trump nor will be vote for Biden. He will look for a 3rd party.
Noah was kinna vex that Bolton would vote for a 3rd party. ZR = Trevor Noah
zoom rader wrote:Many expressing discord is a myth.eliteauto wrote:zoom rader wrote:eliteauto wrote:zoom rader wrote:Don't bother with elite , he full ah 5hit.Rovin wrote:^^^ dise true
look at very recently with Louise lee sing ...
Don't know he hope to fool with that BS
So you're anti-PNM but saying that multiple non-PNM parties equals a PNM victory, so you're saying is better yuh vote PNM and done then?
Me saying people have a right to offer themselves, me saying I respect and endorse that right is BS and I'm full of 5hit. You saying people offering themselves is a lost cause because of the PNM, you blaming PNM voters for other parties losing is straight up brilliance though
Zoom pro-PNM oui
Only when we have free thinkers in TT then a third party is an option .
As it stands PNM will win if there are 2 different parties and PNM in one district .
If however PNM is up against a Non UNC only party ( 1 to 1) then its possible depending on that district that the Non PNM party may win.
Again contradictory logic, what defines a "free thinker" in your book? We have a 2 party system here, many are expressing discord with BOTH parties, yet you link any other party as being in favor of one the PNM when it comes to votes, ok lets say that is correct, maybe this election favors the PNM but we see an emergence of a third option that can build it's strength leading up to 2025, let's say that party can usurp the UNC and become the next viable candidate then, should that option not occur now because it's inconvenient to the UNC? In a 1 to 1 fight now do you favor the UNC's chances in the upcoming election? Will those chances be significantly affected by the PF? So what of the PEP, COP, Independents like Errol Fabien, NNV, NJAC, MSJ etc? Should they all fold or not contests and hold their hand until we get some more "free thinkers" ?
The PNM ppl pretend they are expressing discord is all fake. Those that are propagating these myths are creating the fence sitters and the non voters. Non voters always favor the PNM.
UNC has more folk that will quicker change and vote for a third party knowing fully well that PNM will win. They would rather bite the bullet than let UNC win. Same as PNM ppl rather eat grass than not vote PNM.
You can't say the same with PNM ppl, they will never vote outside PNM, they may not vote but they will never cast a vote for a non PNM party especially an injun who is in a perceive indo party.
As for Error Fabien, he just an undercover PNM agent to split votes in favor of PNM. Same as Baka, they are just there to soak up those afros who are on the verge of a free mind.
Trinidad is not ready for a third party as there are little free thinkers in PNM .
You can't have 3 parties running in a district, it's not going to work at this stage.
Elite you saying 2025 knowing fully well that you want PNM to continue as is while you full your pockets with contract after contract.
You will fool the rest of clowns on tuner with that .
zoom rader wrote:^^^ this 2x4 banana republic is not ready for a third party to fight among the two larger to ever win a seat. Those parties that are not PNM funded may have good intentions but they cannot make an impact without an accomadation with a non major party. PNM has already said they win and loose alone.
Voting for a third party when the two major parties are also in that district is a waste.
If a third party serious then they need to focus on hard core PNM ghettos districts and Bago where the other major non PNM party is nor welcome. What about UNC ghettos? Should they focus there as well?
Non PNM ppl will quicker vote for other parties if they not happy with their former party.bluefete wrote:zoom rader wrote:^^^ this 2x4 banana republic is not ready for a third party to fight among the two larger to ever win a seat. Those parties that are not PNM funded may have good intentions but they cannot make an impact without an accomadation with a non major party. PNM has already said they win and loose alone.
Voting for a third party when the two major parties are also in that district is a waste.
If a third party serious then they need to focus on hard core PNM ghettos districts and Bago where the other major non PNM party is nor welcome. What about UNC ghettos? Should they focus there as well?
I want to know myselfRovin wrote:UNC ghettos u say ?
which part these located bhai ?
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zoom rader wrote:^^^ this 2x4 banana republic is not ready for a third party to fight among the two larger to ever win a seat. Those parties that are not PNM funded may have good intentions but they cannot make an impact without an accomadation with a non major party. PNM has already said they win and loose alone.
Voting for a third party when the two major parties are also in that district is a waste.
If a third party serious then they need to focus on hard core PNM ghettos districts and Bago where the other major non PNM party is nor welcome.
Oh grom another 5 years of PNM.eliteauto wrote:zoom rader wrote:^^^ this 2x4 banana republic is not ready for a third party to fight among the two larger to ever win a seat. Those parties that are not PNM funded may have good intentions but they cannot make an impact without an accomadation with a non major party. PNM has already said they win and loose alone.
Voting for a third party when the two major parties are also in that district is a waste.
If a third party serious then they need to focus on hard core PNM ghettos districts and Bago where the other major non PNM party is nor welcome.
Agreed, and this is why I say let them run, in this short time they might not win a seat but they might make an impact, you have to start somewhere. Build traction in the GE, get on the ground during the term, run for LGE and THA and build, COP had that option but chose to amalgamate (back) into the UNC. If an accommodation is required let these parties enter that with a secure base built by ground work not some pick-up-side with nothing but a base of oppose the PNM. The UNC has stated they will be going it alone win, lose or draw, they have also stated they are not contesting the Tobago seats so they are not a national party, so maybe the other parties can consolidate and become a viable option come 2025
Rovin wrote:Dizzy28 wrote:eliteauto wrote:Hubert Volney had endorsed Terrence Deyalsingh for the St.Joseph constituency, he's quoted as saying that the UNC isn't an option.
Jerlean John has been announced as the candidate for La Horquetta-Talparo for the UNC
Cleopatra Borel's POS South candidacy seems up in the air atm
It emerged Borel has dual citizen ship. Seemed we went down this road as recently as Le Hunte and previous to that Gypsy and Chaitan.
How does this still come up as an issue after the fact when its known you cannot run as a dual citizen?
Does one forgot they hold a second passport?
i feel poo nm selectors used this as a lame excuse to not choose she cause she didnt seem to get pos voters approval
me em kno why d residents beatin up cause like some1 in history said even if u put ah crappo in certain areas they go still vote fuh pnm ...
The_Honourable wrote:Problem with 3rd parties also is that most times they want to fight for all the seats knowing fully well they not winning all if any. Focus in a niche area and branch out.
ILP did it right by focusing on Chaguanas West back in 2013. They jumped the gun for 2015 elections and lost.
Watson Duke and the PDP doing the right thing which is focus on Tobago. They won two of the twelve seats in the THA elections. By actually winning seats, Tobagonians now see PDP as viable. Now PDP gunning for the 2 electoral seats in Tobago. If they win both, PDP can now consider going after seats in Trinidad next time around.
PEP should focus on one of the Diego Martin seats instead of fighting for the full 41. Phillip is thinking about going against Imbert.
Patriotic Front should also go after one seat instead of 41. Mikaela herself can go after Siparia, San Fernando West or Couva North.
COP should... well lol...
The_Honourable wrote:Problem with 3rd parties also is that most times they want to fight for all the seats knowing fully well they not winning all if any. Focus in a niche area and branch out.
ILP did it right by focusing on Chaguanas West back in 2013. They jumped the gun for 2015 elections and lost.
Watson Duke and the PDP doing the right thing which is focus on Tobago. They won two of the twelve seats in the THA elections. By actually winning seats, Tobagonians now see PDP as viable. Now PDP gunning for the 2 electoral seats in Tobago. If they win both, PDP can now consider going after seats in Trinidad next time around.
PEP should focus on one of the Diego Martin seats instead of fighting for the full 41. Phillip is thinking about going against Imbert.
Patriotic Front should also go after one seat instead of 41. Mikaela herself can go after Siparia, San Fernando West or Couva North.
COP should... well lol...
The_Honourable wrote:Problem with 3rd parties also is that most times they want to fight for all the seats knowing fully well they not winning all if any. Focus in a niche area and branch out.
ILP did it right by focusing on Chaguanas West back in 2013. They jumped the gun for 2015 elections and lost.
Watson Duke and the PDP doing the right thing which is focus on Tobago. They won two of the twelve seats in the THA elections. By actually winning seats, Tobagonians now see PDP as viable. Now PDP gunning for the 2 electoral seats in Tobago. If they win both, PDP can now consider going after seats in Trinidad next time around.
PEP should focus on one of the Diego Martin seats instead of fighting for the full 41. Phillip is thinking about going against Imbert.
Patriotic Front should also go after one seat instead of 41. Mikaela herself can go after Siparia, San Fernando West or Couva North.
COP should... well lol...
But you have elite going on a rant that other parties are not national parties.Rovin wrote:The_Honourable wrote:Problem with 3rd parties also is that most times they want to fight for all the seats knowing fully well they not winning all if any. Focus in a niche area and branch out.
ILP did it right by focusing on Chaguanas West back in 2013. They jumped the gun for 2015 elections and lost.
Watson Duke and the PDP doing the right thing which is focus on Tobago. They won two of the twelve seats in the THA elections. By actually winning seats, Tobagonians now see PDP as viable. Now PDP gunning for the 2 electoral seats in Tobago. If they win both, PDP can now consider going after seats in Trinidad next time around.
PEP should focus on one of the Diego Martin seats instead of fighting for the full 41. Phillip is thinking about going against Imbert.
Patriotic Front should also go after one seat instead of 41. Mikaela herself can go after Siparia, San Fernando West or Couva North.
COP should... well lol...
great point on contesting a few cause we all damn well know u jes cyra come een d dance jesso & expect to win 21-22 seats to from any new govt ..... or feel well if we party win 1 or 2 seats we go tell d in coming govt what we want dem to do
at least MSJ have a few brain cells to realise this though one must see thru their disguise in trying to split d votes in d 4 areas to keep d poo nm in power .... tell MSJ to hdmc
eliteauto wrote:I went on a rant? I said other parties are not national parties? ZR you eh fedup resort to lying in an attempt to sway persons? All my posts are there for all to see, I said the UNC is not contesting all 41 seats they are deliberately not contesting the Tobago seats, seeing as they are the current opposition party and the best contestant for for a change in Gov't in the GE their failure to do so makes them not a national party. Further the UNC says it's going it alone so is it they plan to win 21 of 39 seats? If they plan on a post election accommodation with a Tobago party then they are being disingenuous atm and should announce that now. That "third parties should be smart" is a cop out from those worried about losing their base, it's the same people who will find any reason other than themselves to blame their losses on, ironically it's the same people who despise when the PNM does the same thing. Two sides of the same coin, the issues are only an issue when the other side does it. Bring on the third parties
BTW 90% of the votes in T&T are "Black" votes DBU
Man gone MGTOW and blames UNCEFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:UNC will face pressure in marginals this shouldn't be a surprise. Although NACTA has sometimes been WAY OFF, last time they said UNC winning by a massive margin and PNM instead by a land slide.
I don't believe UNC will win because it is the same party that was voted out, however same was said about PNM. The same manning party came back and took the election from UNC easy easy so anything could happen.
I just don't see it happening the same way UNC doesn't have that kind of luck like PNM, anytime the UNC wins an election it is because of people saw possibility of huge change and they voted for it this happened once in Panday time and once in the Kamla Feminist Movement.
Although PNM feminists always against Indian women for some reason.
I remember I used to work with a PNM Driver and this man used bad talk Kamla when I tell you bad talk eh, then one day I asked him why he hate she so much what she do she help the country just like PNM and any other party he revealed that he hates she because she is a WOMAN after going through what he ex wife put he through.
This was a bit shocking, he said the only thing he hates more than a Hindu in this world is a Woman, he say he will never bull a woman again.
SR wrote:Political bloggers on social media making this election to be real nasty
swing vote is myth and always goes to PNMRedman wrote:SR wrote:Political bloggers on social media making this election to be real nasty
It’s been nasty, and will get worse ...both parties need to convince people to hold their nose and vote.
And the winner needs to convince the more discerning swing vote ...to vote for them despite heaps of reasons not to.
It will get more extreme once the date call.
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