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Re: Rowlee Mudda song ...

Postby SR » January 1st, 2018, 7:25 pm

^^^^^ this

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Re: Rowlee Mudda song ...

Postby The_Honourable » January 1st, 2018, 7:27 pm

So this is a new stereotype? Somebody who singing chutney can't be articulate and have well thought out arguments?

Allyuh good we...

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Postby sMASH » January 1st, 2018, 7:37 pm

That not new, that perception was there ever since they disembarked from the Calcutta ships into the murky lagoons.

Is culture and history when one group does it, but disrespectful and denigrating when the other group uses the same devices.

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Re: Rowlee Mudda song ...

Postby pugboy » January 1st, 2018, 8:11 pm

I recall for a couple weeks after winning elections
the rott would be speaking in soft calculated voice tones trying to sound like a real head of state
so much for that
the media should pull up vids and show the mongrel for what he is

rspann wrote:They need to ban the crass prime minister now.He is the most foul mouthed , vulgar , disrespectful prime minister we ever had. Mr Manning warned us.

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Postby matr1x » January 1st, 2018, 8:13 pm

The song better than 95% of soca

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Re: Rowlee Mudda song ...

Postby The_Honourable » January 1st, 2018, 8:18 pm

sMASH wrote:That not new, that perception was there ever since they disembarked from the Calcutta ships into the murky lagoons.

Is culture and history when one group does it, but disrespectful and denigrating when the other group uses the same devices.


ahhh thanks for that


US Emabssy might call in TATT and Pan Trinbago... next ting trump hear this :lol: :drinking:


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Postby maj. tom » January 1st, 2018, 8:33 pm

USA don't play up with their 1st Amendment though.

But Ras Kommanda's studio needs to mix and master that song a lil more.

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Re: Rowlee Mudda song ...

Postby sMASH » January 1st, 2018, 8:48 pm

pugboy wrote:I recall for a couple weeks after winning elections
the rott would be speaking in soft calculated voice tones trying to sound like a real head of state
so much for that
the media should pull up vids and show the mongrel for what he is

rspann wrote:They need to ban the crass prime minister now.He is the most foul mouthed , vulgar , disrespectful prime minister we ever had. Mr Manning warned us.

That? He actually thought that he would be that face of that party, instead of the mascot. But when he realize culvert on the seat more than him, he say kick dat sheit oui!
and thus he rages on.

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Re: Rowlee Mudda song ...

Postby pugboy » January 1st, 2018, 9:12 pm

i think most would agree even as a mascot the man is a failure

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Re: Rowlee Mudda song ...

Postby PariaMan » January 1st, 2018, 9:15 pm

All that beat uo over a mudda count sound?
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Re: Rowlee Mudda song ...

Postby rspann » January 1st, 2018, 9:19 pm

Paria ,the Calcutta ship comment on the stage in Tobago ,was that racist?



I notice you spell song as sound ,any particular reason for it ?

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Postby PariaMan » January 1st, 2018, 9:25 pm

Yes . The difference between me and most of the posters I willing to call on both sides

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Postby PariaMan » January 1st, 2018, 9:26 pm

The sound is obscene because of mudda count and racist because of the black face on the video . Simple

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Re: Rowlee Mudda song ...

Postby linton » January 1st, 2018, 9:32 pm

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PariaMan wrote:Nah that smell have to be Ramdeen or Anand


Your contempt shows in this sentence.

You talk about articulate, at least try to improve your spelling before you go down that road, it's ironic.

You say you are willing to call both sides, seems you are not finding anything to call out the Prime Minister and the PNM for. It's not like you have to look.

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Re: Rowlee Mudda song ...

Postby PariaMan » January 1st, 2018, 9:45 pm

Blame spell check. My contempt for Ramdeen has only to do with the fact that he represented s dead man for 2 years. In any real country he would be disbarred.

Read my posts and you would see that I have said that PM Rowley had made some bad statements.

All of this does not change the fact that the song is crude and obscene and not suited for the radio

The video with the black face is very racist.

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Re: Rowlee Mudda song ...

Postby rspann » January 1st, 2018, 9:47 pm

It hard being a mix breed in this land. The two sides of yuh heritage disappointing.

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Re: Rowlee Mudda song ...

Postby PariaMan » January 1st, 2018, 9:49 pm

Actually no eh i am mixed with Spanish amerindian and African and I am proud off all 3

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Re: Rowlee Mudda song ...

Postby rspann » January 1st, 2018, 9:49 pm

PariaMan wrote:All that beat uo over a mudda count sound?



Stop cussing soldier, Duane will ban yuh.

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Re: Rowlee Mudda song ...

Postby rspann » January 1st, 2018, 9:51 pm

PariaMan wrote:Actually no eh i am mixed with Spanish amerindian and African and I am proud off all 3


I talking about me, Indian and African. I am disappointed.

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Re: Rowlee Mudda song ...

Postby Sōsuke Aizen » January 1st, 2018, 10:52 pm

Why Rowlee don't go an advertise for Charles chocolates? he make a good bobbie mascot.

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Re: Rowlee Mudda song ...

Postby SR » January 1st, 2018, 11:03 pm

MASSIVE QUERIES CRITICS

I anxiously await the response from the critics of “Rowlee Mudda Count” response to Ras Kommanda’s song which was released today on I 95.5 FM entitled “De Man For Kim”.

When sung, the double entendre lyrics are bound to run afoul of the sensitivities of those deemed my song obnoxious, offensive, harmful to the ears of children, degrading to women. Indeed, they might even say it can cause greater harm since it targets and ridicules the President and leader of the free world the great USA which is our political and economic godfather.

I therefore call upon George Singh, Vijay Ramlal, TATT, Pan Trinbago, the PNM Women’s Arm and MATT to raise their voices in similar protest lest the growing public perception that their intervention against my song was politically and racially motivated be confirmed.

Unless of course, there really is one rule for Indian singers who must be kept in submissive check and another one for when the indian community is under nasty attack by other calypsonians. If so, the spurious grounds of criticism for my song were no more than a disguise designed to cover the entrenched racism and political bias that masquerades as carnival and calypso every year. A case of different strokes for different folks?

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Re: Rowlee Mudda song ...

Postby zoom rader » January 2nd, 2018, 3:15 am

^^^ Gee them massive
One rules for injun folk another for PNM ppl that don't look like Morgan Job
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Re: Rowlee Mudda song ...

Postby hong kong phooey » January 2nd, 2018, 3:35 am

hate to see it but the racial divide in our country is being fed, why?

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Postby zoom rader » January 2nd, 2018, 3:37 am

hong kong phooey wrote:hate to see it but the racial divide in our country is being fed, why?
Ask the PNM women's league

This song would have died by now but the PNM with TTAT , pnm media house and Pan trinbago is keeping it alive.

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Postby hydroep » January 2nd, 2018, 5:06 am

RC priest takes TATT to task

The Telecommunications Authority of TT (TATT) was taken to task by Roman Catholic priest Father Martin Sirju who said the policy of banning seemingly offensive songs had to be consistent and not dependant on race, class or politics.

Sirju was delivering the Old Year’s Night sermon at Our Lady of Perpetual Help Roman Catholic Church, Harris Promenade, San Fernando, on December 31.

Addressing a packed congregation, which filled the Church’s ornate auditorium and spilled out into the nearby car park where several large tents were set up to accommodate the overflowing mass of worshippers, Sirju based his sermon on the concept of “peace” and several of the factors which influenced that peace.

He said peace, which was based on “justice, fairness and equity” did not exist in the country at present. He said the absence of peace was evident in three national issues- vulgar songs; gender flexibility and migrant issues.

Sirju said a certain “infamous song” (which he did not identify but which seemed to be Nirmal “Massive” Gosein’s latest offering for the 2018 Chutney Soca season), had generated controversy by its “ugly chorus” and had caused TATT to warn media houses about playing it on its radio frequencies.

“This song can be racially and politically divisive,” he said, adding, “The Telecommunications Authority is wanting to take the high ground in this controversy but it does not stand on any moral authority to do so.”

He recalled that there were a number of songs over the past few years which he could not sing on the pulpit because of its lyrical content.

“The policy of banning has to be consistent and not depend on race, class or politics,” he said...


http://newsday.co.tt/2018/01/01/rc-priest-takes-tatt-to-task/

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Re: Rowlee Mudda song ...

Postby megadoc1 » January 2nd, 2018, 5:42 am

just as I called it earlier, "ah we get back at them now"



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I wish to commend all the fair-minded nationals of Trinidad and Tobago (T&T) who stood in defence of chutney-singer Massive Gosein. Praises must go to Professor Patrick Watson, Dr Fuad Khan, Phillip Alexander, Asvani Mahabir and blogger Samuel Stafford.

The real issue here is double-standards and hypocrisy based on ethnicity and politics. Massive’s “Rowlee Mudda Count” is a divine revelation for the world to see the unprovoked, unfair and explicit attacks against Indians that have been taking place for decades.

This is the most controversial song in the history of calypso, soca and chutney in T&T. The controversy has made it the most popular chutney-soca. It has scored a whopping 177,635 views on YouTube to date (Jan 1, 2018).

Those same individuals who are condemning Massive were silent when Chalkdust sang “75 into 14 can’t go” except with Vaseline petroleum jelly. That sexually obscene song on the Indian hero, Sat Maharaj, won the Calypso Monarch Competition (2017) which resulted in Chalkdust walking away with the first prize of one million dollars of taxpayers’ money.

There is a school of thought that posits that Indians must remain passive when attacked by Africans for fear of black fury and anger as was recently exhibited in the Beetham roadblocks and robberies.

What does Clyde Weatherhead expect Indians to do? Take licks all the time or just roll over for more anal jabbing? Weatherhead wrote: “Hurling insults across the racial divide from either direction is of no value to our society and the building of our nation” (Guardian Dec 30, 2017).

The few Indian leaders and panditas who share such a passive and apologetic view are a disgrace to the Indian community. It is only by standing up to these threats, and responding to calypsonians like Chalkdust, Cro Cro and Sugar Aloes that these unwarranted and unprovoked attacks would end. Has the pandita forgotten the admonition of Swami Vivekananda to stand up and face the brutes?

Now blacks can understand how it feels to be attacked in calypso. For generations, Indians have been insulted by calypsonians and writers. Indians have looked on helplessly for too long. Now Massive has come to their rescue as a new Massiah.

Judy Raymond’s article titled “Not So Massive” is an insult to the intelligence of people (Newsday Dec 28, 2017). She described Massive’s “Rowlee Mudda Count” as “crass, stupid and vapid and amounts to nothing more than personal attack on the private life of a public official.” In the same breath, Raymond described Chalkdust’s “75 into 14 can’t go” as “a sophisticated masterpiece when compared to Massive’s inane creation.”

Maybe because of her “high colour,” Raymond has arrogated unto herself the right to judge what is “crass” and what is “sophisticated.” It is this kind of double-speak that is destroying this twin-island republic. Raymond’s ethnic bias is clear as black and white.

Media houses and the State can no longer make sole judgements about what the Indian community says, writes and sings. It is social media that is now levelling the playing field, thus making the influence of individuals like Judy Raymond insignificant.

In the past, a chutney singer such as Massive would not have enjoyed such success in the traditional media. It is now for the people to determine what is “crass, stupid and vapid,”

not Judy Raymond, the PNM’s Women League and the Telecommunication Authority of Trinidad and Tobago (TATT). The latest call by the TATT to ban the playing of Massive’s “Rowlee Mudda Count” is unprecedented and is open to a lawsuit based on discrimination. Such interference by the State reeks of dictatorship.

The State-funded entity, Pan Trinbago, has also called for a ban on the airing of “Rowlee Mudda Count.” Its president, Keith Diaz, said that “such derogatory comments against any of the country’s leaders, or women, should not be allowed (Express Jan 1, 2018).

Why were Pan Trinbago, TATT, Weatherhead, Judy Raymond, Israel Khan and others silent

when Amuser (Carlton Thomas) sang “Panday like Ato-Tea” and Rootsman sang “Oma Account Big”? Why the silence when Cro Cro sang against an elected Prime Minister in 1995?

In his rude and racial “All Yuh look for That,” Cro Cro sang on Basdeo Panday who was wrongly accused of sexual harassment: “Ah man on a charge of interfering/ Black man all you still go and vote for him/ Imagine this sex silver-headed pest/ Put he fingers under your daughter dress.”

An academic study of political calypsos was done in 2015 by Darryl Dean for his MA thesis at Carleton University in Canada. Dean found that Panday was “the target of several calypsos, some of them racist” (page 62).

Now that Massive has shown that Indians can fight fire with fire, calypsonians and writers will think twice before they launch another missile.

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Re: Rowlee Mudda song ...

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » January 2nd, 2018, 6:32 am

a lot of history and facts just rolling out yes

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Re: Rowlee Mudda song ...

Postby zoom rader » January 2nd, 2018, 6:36 am

^^^ There is nothing as getting back to dem. It's bullchit

The PNM created this situation for themselves.

Had the PNM women's league shut their mouths this song would have died.

The rules have now be set and it must now apply for future nasty anti Indo songs by agents of the PNM.

Do so ant like so

It can't have one rule for injuns and free flow for ppl looking like Morgan Job.

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Re: Rowlee Mudda song ...

Postby Redman » January 2nd, 2018, 6:44 am

The error in the article there is that the author condemns Chalkdust song.
But Sats position on child marriage was a public position that he took.
As was Oma's account.
And Pandays charge.

Why if it is that Massive song isn't racially charged....are there constant defenses essentially based on "Indian people taking it...is we time now?
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Re: Rowlee Mudda song ...

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » January 2nd, 2018, 6:47 am

real lolz if massive win chutney monarch...

over 100k views on youtube....any publicity is good publicity....who didn't know massive then....know him now

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