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Re: Anand Ramlogan arrested & charged... AGAIN! Free money?

Postby hover11 » October 14th, 2022, 6:17 am

De Dragon wrote:Two ignorant, but arrogant fools. Has anyone singularly brought this country into more disrepute that JUHN Scarfy?
In before the PNMites come to blame kamla

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Postby shaneelal » October 16th, 2022, 6:42 am

This doesn't seem to be going as ex-AG/gov't planned.

NELSON’S $100M CLAIM UNSEALED
...Alleges Al-Rawi promised him a presidential pardon

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https://trinidadexpress.com/news/local/ ... cbdfb.html

State witness and whistleblower Vincent Nelson is claiming then-attorney general Faris Al-Rawi promised a presidential pardon would be given to him if he gave evidence against former attorney general Anand Ramlogan and attorney ­Gerald Ramdeen.

Nelson has taken legal action against the Attorney General for breach of a November 2017 indemnity agreement.

In his statement of claim filed in the court on June 27, 2022, by attorney Shankar Bidaisee, Nelson made several claims, among them that his Trinidad and Tobago attorney (Roger Kawalsingh) had discussions with the DPP about his case and that Government Minister Stuart Young had a conversation with him on an airplane, indicating that he (Young) did not share Nelson’s notarised statement with the United Kingdom National Crime Agency (NCA) which triggered criminal investigations into Nelson in that jurisdiction.

Nelson is seeking in excess of TT$100 million, citing that Al-Rawi acted maliciously and with ulterior motives for political purposes.

Last Monday, the DPP discontinued criminal charges against Ramlogan and Ramdeen, a former United National Congress senator, noting that Nelson has refused to give evidence until his civil claim against the AG is completed.

Applications for the unsealing of Nelson’s civil claim have been made by Nelson himself, as well as Ramlogan and Ramdeen.

In May 2019, Nelson was indicted on three charges for conspiring to commit money laundering, misbehaviour in public office and conspiracy to commit an act of corruption. He entered a plea deal with the DPP and the misbehaviour charge was dropped.

In March 2020, Justice Malcolm Holdip sentenced Nelson and ordered him to pay TT$2.5 million in fines.

Claim detailed

Nelson’s civil claim details all the dealing that took place dating back to 2016, and the deals made for him to give evidence against Ramlogan and Ramdeen.

He stated that former AG Al-Rawi, by way of the indemnity agreement, undertook that Nelson would not be prosecuted and that all his legal expenses would be taken care of by the State.

He also claimed Al-Rawi indicated that a presidential pardon would be given to him.

The claim stated there were several breaches of the indemnity agreement:

1. Clause 4 of the indemnity agreement states that the AG undertakes to recommend to the DPP that no criminal proceedings be taken against Nelson.

The claim stated that this clause was breached as Al-Rawi imposed a pre-condition on Nelson which he had to fulfil prior to a recommendation being made.

2. The former AG’s external attorney Dharmendra Punawasee ­indicated to Nelson in a November 5, 2018, letter that he was instructed that Nelson was to make a “self-incriminating” statement to the NCA/Crown Prosecution Service of the UK which could be utilised by the prosecuting authorities in T&T, and that Nelson undertook to give evidence in T&T in accordance with that self-incriminating evidence and the notarised statement.

3. On November 20, 2018, Nelson’s T&T attorney (Kawalsingh) spoke to Al-Rawi on the phone and informed him that Nelson cooperating with the NCA/CPS would result in him being prosecuted in the UK.

4. The claim stated that Al-Rawi’s actions “pressurised” Nelson into making further “self-incriminating” statements to give as evidence against Ramlogan and Ramdeen.

Meeting at

ex-AG’s home

The claim stated that Nelson’s attorney met with Al-Rawi at his home.

“On 24th November, 2018, the Claimant’s T&T attorney met with Al-Rawi at the latter’s house,” stated the claim.

It added that Al-Rawi was informed that due to disclosure of the notarised statement to the NCA, Nelson was being treated as a “suspect” under the Bribery Act and likely to be prosecuted and imprisoned in the UK.

“It was emphasised to Al-Rawi that such a prosecution would not be beneficial to him (Al-Rawi) and Nelson would not give any evidence in the UK or T&T against Ramlogan and Ramdeen.

The claim stated that Al-Rawi told Nelson’s attorney that the only option open to him to secure Nelson’s evidence was get the NCA to cede its investigation into Nelson and, upon this, Al-Rawi would recommend to the DPP that Nelson be prosecuted in T&T and that there be a recommendation to the court that there be no imprisonment of Nelson if he gave evidence against Ramlogan and Ramdeen.

Pardon

promise

The claim stated further that “a pardon would be fast-tracked to be provided within one month of the claimant being sentenced on the condition that the claimant give evidence against Mr Ramlogan and Mr Ramdeen”.

It stated further it was agreed that Nelson would be fully compensated for his losses and that he would not be prosecuted in the UK.

The claim went on the detail the specifics of the pardon, claiming that Al-Rawi had secured the Government’s support for this.

The claim stated that Nelson’s attorney, via text on June 18, 2019, confirmed the “defendant had communicated that the GORTT (Government of T&T) had agreed on granting of the requisite pardon”.

According to the claim, Al-Rawi also indicated that he had the support of the Pardon Committee.

The Express understands that the Mercy Committee, which is chaired by the AG, comprises the DPP and the National Security Minister, who put forward pardons to the President.

Nelson’s claim states, “The Claimant will rely, inter alia, on the confirmation by text from the Claimant’s T&T attorney to the Claimant dated 25 January 2020, whereby he stated that, absent the agreement of the DPP to pardon within a month of sentencing, ‘the other members (of the pardon committee) will agree from what I understand’.”

The claim stated that Nelson asked if this was enough and his attorney replied “yes”.

The claim noted that in January 2020, the DPP stated that Nelson’s ­notarised statement was not disclosed to him until January 2019.

It stated that on February 14, 2019, Nelson was informed by his attorney that Al-Rawi informed him that he (Al-Rawi) “and the DPP were working together to send a letter to the NCA for the ceding of the criminal investigation and prosecution” of Nelson.

The claim stated that Nelson was of the reasonable belief that Al-Rawi had “actioned his plan” with respect to ensuring that Nelson was prosecuted in T&T to avoid prosecution and imprisonment in the UK, that Al-Rawi ensured that a pardon would be granted to Nelson one month after he was sentenced, and that Al-Rawi would pay Nelson full monetary compensation pursuant to the indemnity after sentencing.

The claim stated that Al-Rawi was successful in getting the NCA to cede to the State of T&T the criminal investigation and Nelson’s attorney was allowed to read such correspondence indicating this.

Conversation

with the DPP

The claim also disclosed that Kawalsingh had conversations with the DPP.

“On 10th April 2019, the Claimant’s attorney at law informed him that ‘The DPP and I spoke and he has no issue with Tom speaking to Jenkins as we want everything to flow smoothly. ‘Tom’ is the Queen’s counsel appointed by the Claimant to represent him in the investigation by the NCA. Mr Jenkins is the QC appointed by the DPP for the purposes of prosecuting the Claimant.”

Conversation with

Young on plane

The claim stated that on October 5, 2018, the NCA advised Nelson in writing that it was in possession of a notarised statement that he was subject of a criminal investigation pursuant to the UK Bribery Act and that they required to interview him.

It stated that Nelson’s attorney and Al-Rawi had exchanged text messages about this, and Al-Rawi was aware of what was going on.

“At all material times the Defendant (Al-Rawi) had informed the Claimant’s T&T attorney at law that Stuart Young, then a Minister in the Ministry of the Attorney General had wrongly disclosed the notarised statement without his knowledge and/or permission,” stated the claim.

It went on to point out that Nelson asked Young about this after the Minister engaged him in conversation.

“Stuart Young and the Claimant were both on a British Airways flight from Trinidad and Tobago to London Gatwick in March 2020, following the Claimant’s conviction and sentencing by the High Court of Trinidad and Tobago. Stuart Young came to the Claimant’s seat to converse.

“The Claimant informed Stuart Young that the Defendant had informed the Claimant’s attorney that the Notarised Statement had been disclosed by Young. The latter replied that, as a lawyer, he ‘wouldn’t be so stupid’ because he knew it would be a breach of the ‘Agreement’.

“The fact of this conversation and Young’s denial of disclosure is recorded in a text message sent by the Claimant to his attorney on 5th March, 2020,” stated the claim.

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Re: Anand Ramlogan arrested & charged... AGAIN! Free money?

Postby hover11 » October 16th, 2022, 6:43 am

Ah boi PNM is capable of corruption. Who wudda thunk.

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Re: Anand Ramlogan arrested & charged... AGAIN! Free money?

Postby hover11 » October 16th, 2022, 8:28 am

Nelson: I’m sorry I can’t answer your questions, talk to my lawyer


https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/nelson- ... 67f99dfc70

Most appropriate answer the matter is before the courts...

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Re: Anand Ramlogan arrested & charged... AGAIN! Free money?

Postby matr1x » October 16th, 2022, 8:40 am

Yup. You have to answer anything you don't want to

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Re: Anand Ramlogan arrested & charged... AGAIN! Free money?

Postby bluefete » October 16th, 2022, 8:50 am

That is a hell of a story in the Sunday Guardian.

No wonder Growley vex, vex, vex.

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Re: Anand Ramlogan arrested & charged... AGAIN! Free money?

Postby pugboy » October 16th, 2022, 9:52 am

when you see ferris getting defensive and saying he also spoke to other ppl to get advice,
that is clear admission that is a big faux pas, furthermore
his facial expression have a big eyebrow frown, normally this is associated with bs dodging talk.

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Postby hover11 » October 16th, 2022, 10:22 am

Hmmm things not looking too good, the government needs a distraction at the moment....

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Re: Anand Ramlogan arrested & charged... AGAIN! Free money?

Postby ProtonPowder » October 16th, 2022, 11:55 am

Your Honour, my senior attorney tell me dais the law so dais why I fill out the motion like that.

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Re: Anand Ramlogan arrested & charged... AGAIN! Free money?

Postby hover11 » October 16th, 2022, 1:27 pm

I have taken very careful note of what I have seen and heard with respect to the matters being reported in the public domain surrounding the criminal charges of Anand Ramlogan and Gerald Ramdeen and the involvement of Vincent Nelson.

The matters surrounding Vincent Nelson are sub judice and accordingly it is prudent for me not to say much or be drawn into attempts to obfuscate the truth or to jeopardize any ongoing legal matters (either criminal or civil).

Needless to say, it can never be a breach of any proper legal agreement, or law, to provide evidence to a legitimate law enforcement agency.

It is also noteworthy that thus far, no report has referred to the Defence that has been filed by the State which I presume will set out the State’s response, including denials, to claims being made by Vincent Nelson (who pleaded guilty and accordingly is a convicted criminal).

This is as much as I will say at this stage, as to say anymore would be imprudent.

Stuart R. Young, M.P.

October 15, 2022

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Re: Anand Ramlogan arrested & charged... AGAIN! Free money?

Postby hover11 » October 16th, 2022, 1:27 pm

Lots of words but nothing of substance

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Postby matr1x » October 16th, 2022, 1:33 pm

hover11 wrote:Lots of words but nothing of substance



Isn't that Stewart young personality in a nutshell?

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Re: Anand Ramlogan arrested & charged... AGAIN! Free money?

Postby pugboy » October 16th, 2022, 1:55 pm

that’s goes for most of them politicians

matr1x wrote:
hover11 wrote:Lots of words but nothing of substance



Isn't that Stewart young personality in a nutshell?

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Re: Anand Ramlogan arrested & charged... AGAIN! Free money?

Postby DMan7 » October 16th, 2022, 4:05 pm

matr1x wrote:
hover11 wrote:Lots of words but nothing of substance



Isn't that Stewart young personality in a nutshell?


Minister of Everything yet Minister of Nothing?

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Re: Anand Ramlogan arrested & charged... AGAIN! Free money?

Postby matr1x » October 16th, 2022, 4:10 pm

DMan7 wrote:
matr1x wrote:
hover11 wrote:Lots of words but nothing of substance



Isn't that Stewart young personality in a nutshell?


Minister of Everything yet Minister of Nothing?



Wasn't his stepdaughter the minister of Nutting?

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Re: Anand Ramlogan arrested & charged... AGAIN! Free money?

Postby pugboy » October 16th, 2022, 4:33 pm

man basically saying he aint know nuthin bout that setta legal poopoo he padna try to setup

martin daly column in the express today make ferris look bad

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Postby The_Honourable » October 16th, 2022, 10:22 pm

Attorneys Kiel Taklalsingh and Stefan Ramkissoon with guest Dinesh Rambally discusses the collapse of the state's case against Ramlogan and Ramdeen.


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Postby sMASH » October 16th, 2022, 10:29 pm

The_Honourable wrote:Attorneys Kiel Taklalsingh and Stefan Ramkissoon with guest Dinesh Rambally discusses the collapse of the state's case against Ramlogan and Ramdeen.


not showing up. mind posting the link?

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Postby The_Honourable » October 16th, 2022, 11:32 pm

sMASH wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:Attorneys Kiel Taklalsingh and Stefan Ramkissoon with guest Dinesh Rambally discusses the collapse of the state's case against Ramlogan and Ramdeen.


not showing up. mind posting the link?


Sure

https://www.facebook.com/radiotvjaagrit ... 800848122/

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Postby Ben_spanna » October 17th, 2022, 7:32 am

poli-sh1tians noes how to remove money smartly

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Postby 16 cycles » October 17th, 2022, 8:16 am

This country’s highest court has ruled that there may have been a basis to support claims that there was political interference in the decision to withdraw a US$97m lawsuit against former Petrotrin executive chairman Malcolm Jones.

The Government had said the decision to drop the case was supported by the legal opinion of British Queen’s Counsel Vincent Nelson, now the State’s key witness against former attorney general Anand Ramlogan and former UNC senator Gerald Ramdeen.


https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/privy-c ... b6c1e4bb02

rel tangled web

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Re: Anand Ramlogan arrested & charged... AGAIN! Free money?

Postby sMASH » October 17th, 2022, 8:51 am

The_Honourable wrote:
sMASH wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:Attorneys Kiel Taklalsingh and Stefan Ramkissoon with guest Dinesh Rambally discusses the collapse of the state's case against Ramlogan and Ramdeen.


not showing up. mind posting the link?


Sure

https://www.facebook.com/radiotvjaagrit ... 800848122/

wow!!! tings alot worse, as they explained it.. that is realllll corruption there...

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Re: Anand Ramlogan arrested & charged... AGAIN! Free money?

Postby hover11 » October 17th, 2022, 4:21 pm

They cah pay for a proper salary increase and back pay but they have millions of dollars to spend on one man. Is this the true meaning of sacrifice. Imagine public funds were used to accomodate in the millions over Nelson and now we will paying through our teeth through his countersuits.....

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Postby hover11 » October 17th, 2022, 9:04 pm

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Postby hover11 » October 21st, 2022, 4:39 pm

LATT responds; No decision on Nelson controversy

https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/latt-re ... cccf652918

As per usual the law association bats in their crease and tows the line, never daring to bite the hands that feed them even if it means sacrificing their integrity

Rule of law: no man is above law except politicians

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Re: Anand Ramlogan arrested & charged... AGAIN! Free money?

Postby De Dragon » October 21st, 2022, 10:35 pm

Dumbarse Tight Shirt Arse Wari cooked up what he thought was a surefire way to jail Anand and Ramdeen by using their lawyer pardna against them. He promised this lawyer blanket immunity from prosecution to legal fees and Covid. Now said lawyer has teamed up with Anand and Ramdeen to unseal and reveal the claim, and embarrass and expose possible criminal behaviour by the former AG, now CEPEP boss.
Summary? Arse Wari iz the biggest dunce of a lawyer T&T has ever seen, and will be likely to ever see in its history.

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Re: Anand Ramlogan arrested & charged... AGAIN! Free money?

Postby maj. tom » October 21st, 2022, 10:42 pm

It's crazy how throughout the majority of the history of our country the PNM does all this open corruption and crime, the population is always like "meh."

But Kamla! oh gawd kamla teef out d Treasury and fake email! Panday did teef n buy out Kensington in London. CJ Sharma intervene in the trial!

set ah forking dotish mc voters in this country. And don't play like race isn't the qualifying and dividing factor with the issue.

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Postby De Dragon » October 21st, 2022, 10:51 pm

maj. tom wrote:It's crazy how throughout the majority of the history of our country the PNM does all this open corruption and crime, the population is always like "meh."

But Kamla! oh gawd kamla teef out d Treasury and fake email! Panday did teef n buy out Kensington in London. CJ Sharma intervene in the trial!

set ah forking dotish mc voters in this country. And don't play like race isn't the qualifying and dividing factor with the issue.

sheit on their head is fine, as long as the bamsee is black

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Re: Anand Ramlogan arrested & charged... AGAIN! Free money?

Postby pugboy » October 21st, 2022, 11:14 pm

ferris get a double cross setup
he still sleeping good at night with all the rent he collecting

De Dragon wrote:Dumbarse Tight Shirt Arse Wari cooked up what he thought was a surefire way to jail Anand and Ramdeen by using their lawyer pardna against them. He promised this lawyer blanket immunity from prosecution to legal fees and Covid. Now said lawyer has teamed up with Anand and Ramdeen to unseal and reveal the claim, and embarrass and expose possible criminal behaviour by the former AG, now CEPEP boss.
Summary? Arse Wari iz the biggest dunce of a lawyer T&T has ever seen, and will be likely to ever see in its history.

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Re: Anand Ramlogan arrested & charged... AGAIN! Free money?

Postby Kickstart » October 22nd, 2022, 7:20 am

maj. tom wrote:It's crazy how throughout the majority of the history of our country the PNM does all this open corruption and crime, the population is always like "meh."

But Kamla! oh gawd kamla teef out d Treasury and fake email! Panday did teef n buy out Kensington in London. CJ Sharma intervene in the trial!

set ah forking dotish mc voters in this country. And don't play like race isn't the qualifying and dividing factor with the issue.
If Zoom wrote what u just wrote it would have been level cuss from the PNM supporters.

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