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Re: good investments?

Postby Rockram » February 19th, 2019, 12:36 pm

snatman wrote:Along those lines, CALYP is trading at a huge discount to is NAV. The wind-up date is Nov 2025. Currently paying over 4% at the current price
Rockram wrote:Country_Bookie wrote:
Clico Investment Fund is a good buy, u get all the RBL dividends now and in 8 yrs time u get 1 RBL share for every 4 units of CIF. It's a cheap way to acquire RBL shares for the long term.

Was not aware of this! That's a pretty good deal, good investment for your children to grow into!

>>>Acutally it's closer to 5 CIF Units to 1 RBL share + any cash from liquidation of 25 year GORT bonds which is part of the CIF Assets.....still a very good buy, especially with current RFHL prospects.

CIF currently trading at 20.20 which is a significant discount to NAV 24.89


Good point but CIF is trading at much higher volumes, so more available to investors, Also whilst they are both on the Mutual fund market...CIF is asset base is RFHL shares and GORT Bonds, whilst i believe CALYP assets mirror the "all T&T Index"

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Re: good investments?

Postby Rockram » February 19th, 2019, 12:36 pm

snatman wrote:Along those lines, CALYP is trading at a huge discount to is NAV. The wind-up date is Nov 2025. Currently paying over 4% at the current price
Rockram wrote:Country_Bookie wrote:
Clico Investment Fund is a good buy, u get all the RBL dividends now and in 8 yrs time u get 1 RBL share for every 4 units of CIF. It's a cheap way to acquire RBL shares for the long term.

Was not aware of this! That's a pretty good deal, good investment for your children to grow into!

>>>Acutally it's closer to 5 CIF Units to 1 RBL share + any cash from liquidation of 25 year GORT bonds which is part of the CIF Assets.....still a very good buy, especially with current RFHL prospects.

CIF currently trading at 20.20 which is a significant discount to NAV 24.89


Good point but CIF is trading at much higher volumes, so more available to investors, Also whilst they are both on the Mutual fund market...CIF is asset base is RFHL shares and GORT Bonds, whilst i believe CALYP assets mirror the "all T&T Index"

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Re: good investments?

Postby Infamouz » February 19th, 2019, 12:49 pm

JMMB SHARES!!

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Re: good investments?

Postby snatman » February 19th, 2019, 1:30 pm

Rockram wrote:
snatman wrote:Along those lines, CALYP is trading at a huge discount to is NAV. The wind-up date is Nov 2025. Currently paying over 4% at the current price
Rockram wrote:Country_Bookie wrote:
Clico Investment Fund is a good buy, u get all the RBL dividends now and in 8 yrs time u get 1 RBL share for every 4 units of CIF. It's a cheap way to acquire RBL shares for the long term.

Was not aware of this! That's a pretty good deal, good investment for your children to grow into!

>>>Acutally it's closer to 5 CIF Units to 1 RBL share + any cash from liquidation of 25 year GORT bonds which is part of the CIF Assets.....still a very good buy, especially with current RFHL prospects.

CIF currently trading at 20.20 which is a significant discount to NAV 24.89


Good point but CIF is trading at much higher volumes, so more available to investors, Also whilst they are both on the Mutual fund market...CIF is asset base is RFHL shares and GORT Bonds, whilst i believe CALYP assets mirror the "all T&T Index"


nah, CALYP's holdings are a mix of U.S. energy based ETFs along with selected TnT stocks - including NGL and also BAL - British American Tobacco. The NAV could easily double or by 2025

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Re: good investments?

Postby snatman » February 19th, 2019, 1:30 pm

Infamouz wrote:JMMB SHARES!!

why?

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Re: good investments?

Postby Infamouz » February 19th, 2019, 1:33 pm

Dividends is sheit.. 3 years ago it was like 50c now about 1.75 ---- who knowz the value progressing forward... Looking @ Price appreciation

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Re: good investments?

Postby snatman » February 19th, 2019, 1:48 pm

Infamouz wrote:Dividends is sheit.. 3 years ago it was like 50c now about 1.75 ---- who knowz the value progressing forward... Looking @ Price appreciation

At a price/earnings ratio of 13-14 and dividend yield of 1.15%, I don't think there's much room for capital gains anytime soon. The only reason this is trading at such a high price is that there's the option to receive dividends in US currency.

NCBFG, MASSY, RFHL along with CIF and CALYP looks to be the best buys on the local exchange right now. If you have a long term horizon.

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Re: good investments?

Postby Rockram » February 19th, 2019, 2:03 pm

snatman wrote:
Infamouz wrote:Dividends is sheit.. 3 years ago it was like 50c now about 1.75 ---- who knowz the value progressing forward... Looking @ Price appreciation

At a price/earnings ratio of 13-14 and dividend yield of 1.15%, I don't think there's much room for capital gains anytime soon. The only reason this is trading at such a high price is that there's the option to receive dividends in US currency.

NCBFG, MASSY, RFHL along with CIF and CALYP looks to be the best buys on the local exchange right now. If you have a long term horizon.



Agreed, whats your thoughts TTNGL though

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Re: good investments?

Postby Rockram » February 19th, 2019, 2:13 pm

snatman wrote:
Rockram wrote:
snatman wrote:Along those lines, CALYP is trading at a huge discount to is NAV. The wind-up date is Nov 2025. Currently paying over 4% at the current price
Rockram wrote:Country_Bookie wrote:
Clico Investment Fund is a good buy, u get all the RBL dividends now and in 8 yrs time u get 1 RBL share for every 4 units of CIF. It's a cheap way to acquire RBL shares for the long term.

Was not aware of this! That's a pretty good deal, good investment for your children to grow into!

>>>Acutally it's closer to 5 CIF Units to 1 RBL share + any cash from liquidation of 25 year GORT bonds which is part of the CIF Assets.....still a very good buy, especially with current RFHL prospects.

CIF currently trading at 20.20 which is a significant discount to NAV 24.89


Good point but CIF is trading at much higher volumes, so more available to investors, Also whilst they are both on the Mutual fund market...CIF is asset base is RFHL shares and GORT Bonds, whilst i believe CALYP assets mirror the "all T&T Index"


nah, CALYP's holdings are a mix of U.S. energy based ETFs along with selected TnT stocks - including NGL and also BAL - British American Tobacco. The NAV could easily double or by 2025



The portfolio will be constructed to match or track the components of a market index, which in this case, is a weighted combination of all securities on the All T&T Index on the TTSE and a Global Energy Index. In the 2015 Budget, Energy vs Non-Energy revenue measured 35:65; the Fund will mirror this distribution as follows:

35%: Funds traded on Global Energy Index
65%: Securities listed on the All T&T Index

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Re: good investments?

Postby snatman » February 19th, 2019, 3:11 pm

Rockram wrote:
snatman wrote:
Infamouz wrote:Dividends is sheit.. 3 years ago it was like 50c now about 1.75 ---- who knowz the value progressing forward... Looking @ Price appreciation

At a price/earnings ratio of 13-14 and dividend yield of 1.15%, I don't think there's much room for capital gains anytime soon. The only reason this is trading at such a high price is that there's the option to receive dividends in US currency.

NCBFG, MASSY, RFHL along with CIF and CALYP looks to be the best buys on the local exchange right now. If you have a long term horizon.

Agreed, whats your thoughts TTNGL though


If a certain development comes to fruition, $45+ is likely this year. Otherwise, its a good dividend investment.

disclaimer: I'm not a pro. Do your own research.

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Re: good investments?

Postby pugboy » February 19th, 2019, 3:50 pm

they used to say better to buy CIF instead of Republic as it was running cheaper and basically same share.
the top dividend yields are around 4-4.5%

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Re: good investments?

Postby ticker » February 22nd, 2019, 7:06 am

Many tools out there, depends on what excites u, how much time you wanna devote and how much money to play you have, also what risk are you gonna willing to undertake and what yield in which time horizont you require. You gotta be very honest and strict about this. Beware of emotions, be logical and develop a plan. There are many investors willing to share and help.

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Re: good investments?

Postby Ianition » February 22nd, 2019, 9:08 am

Long term you need to disperse ur money into 3 economically connected areas, when two goes down one is always up:
- comodities: gold n silver eg
- property to rent
- money assets: shares, bonds...

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Re: good investments?

Postby RedVEVO » February 23rd, 2019, 2:54 am

Ianition wrote:Long term you need to disperse ur money into 3 economically connected areas, when two goes down one is always up:
- comodities: gold n silver eg
- property to rent
- money assets: shares, bonds...


It's commodities .. and they are many many others not just Gold & Silver .

Technically money is not really an asset :D

"Shares" ( Stocks ) & Bonds are investments .

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Re: good investments?

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » February 23rd, 2019, 7:18 am

Best investments in tdad atm

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Re: good investments?

Postby rspann » February 24th, 2019, 12:04 pm

A piece of advice. When your ship comes in, make sure you're not in the airport.

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Re: good investments?

Postby luxuravi » February 25th, 2019, 12:43 pm

Crypto and commodities

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Re: good investments?

Postby eliteauto » February 25th, 2019, 12:47 pm

rspann wrote:A piece of advice. When your ship comes in, make sure you're not in the airport.

but I always in the airport :cry:

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Re: good investments?

Postby rspann » February 26th, 2019, 8:31 am

Well,because of the investment you made, your ship comes in at the airport.
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Re: good investments?

Postby Rockram » February 26th, 2019, 11:42 am

snatman wrote:
Rockram wrote:
snatman wrote:
Infamouz wrote:Dividends is sheit.. 3 years ago it was like 50c now about 1.75 ---- who knowz the value progressing forward... Looking @ Price appreciation

At a price/earnings ratio of 13-14 and dividend yield of 1.15%, I don't think there's much room for capital gains anytime soon. The only reason this is trading at such a high price is that there's the option to receive dividends in US currency.

NCBFG, MASSY, RFHL along with CIF and CALYP looks to be the best buys on the local exchange right now. If you have a long term horizon.

Agreed, whats your thoughts TTNGL though


If a certain development comes to fruition, $45+ is likely this year. Otherwise, its a good dividend investment.

disclaimer: I'm not a pro. Do your own research.


Are u refrencing possible USD$ dividends or dragon deal?

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Re: good investments?

Postby 88sins » February 26th, 2019, 12:44 pm

Redman wrote:GHL STOCK.

BE real careful in the international markets....

Buy some gold and hold for a couple years.
Might be painful in the short term but it will pay off.


Gold & other metals, yeah
GHL stock? no thanks.

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Re: good investments?

Postby snatman » February 26th, 2019, 3:12 pm

Rockram wrote:
snatman wrote:
Rockram wrote:
snatman wrote:
Infamouz wrote:Dividends is sheit.. 3 years ago it was like 50c now about 1.75 ---- who knowz the value progressing forward... Looking @ Price appreciation

At a price/earnings ratio of 13-14 and dividend yield of 1.15%, I don't think there's much room for capital gains anytime soon. The only reason this is trading at such a high price is that there's the option to receive dividends in US currency.

NCBFG, MASSY, RFHL along with CIF and CALYP looks to be the best buys on the local exchange right now. If you have a long term horizon.

Agreed, whats your thoughts TTNGL though


If a certain development comes to fruition, $45+ is likely this year. Otherwise, its a good dividend investment.

disclaimer: I'm not a pro. Do your own research.


Are u refrencing possible USD$ dividends or dragon deal?

USD$ dividends + increased production

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Re: good investments?

Postby Redman » February 26th, 2019, 4:14 pm

88sins wrote:
Redman wrote:GHL STOCK.

BE real careful in the international markets....

Buy some gold and hold for a couple years.
Might be painful in the short term but it will pay off.


Gold & other metals, yeah
GHL stock? no thanks.


Check the date on that post-but why not GHL?

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Re: good investments?

Postby Rockram » February 28th, 2019, 4:38 pm

Today's Guardian Business Article by Felix Pereira gives great insight into both the Clico Investment FUND (CIF) and the UTC Calypso Fund (CALYP) especially concerning their respective terminations.

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Postby RedVEVO » March 3rd, 2019, 10:11 am

Redman wrote:
88sins wrote:
Redman wrote:GHL STOCK.

BE real careful in the international markets....

Buy some gold and hold for a couple years.
Might be painful in the short term but it will pay off.


Gold & other metals, yeah
GHL stock? no thanks.


Check the date on that post-but why not GHL?


GHL is over leveraged .

They are borrowing from themselves :drinking:

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Re: good investments?

Postby ruffneck_12 » March 3rd, 2019, 2:24 pm



Diversify your bonds

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Re: good investments?

Postby 88sins » March 6th, 2019, 10:33 am

Redman wrote:
Check the date on that post-but why not GHL?


yeah, it's an aged post. But my perspective remains the same even tho it was presented long after you made that post.
Why not GHL?
For me, I personally find GHL stock a bit too risky for my tastes after observing their shares values, management trends, asset development practices, revenue & expenditures, among other things, over the years. Simply put, GHL doesn't have my confidence to keep the slow but steady uptick of it's share price moving in an upward direction. Just looks like substantially greater gamble than I'm willing to make with my money. Time will tell if I'm justified in thinking this.

But in the meantime, I'll happily stay away from it.

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Re: good investments?

Postby Rockram » April 5th, 2019, 7:49 am

snatman wrote:
Rockram wrote:
snatman wrote:
Rockram wrote:
snatman wrote:
Infamouz wrote:Dividends is sheit.. 3 years ago it was like 50c now about 1.75 ---- who knowz the value progressing forward... Looking @ Price appreciation

At a price/earnings ratio of 13-14 and dividend yield of 1.15%, I don't think there's much room for capital gains anytime soon. The only reason this is trading at such a high price is that there's the option to receive dividends in US currency.

NCBFG, MASSY, RFHL along with CIF and CALYP looks to be the best buys on the local exchange right now. If you have a long term horizon.

Agreed, whats your thoughts TTNGL though


If a certain development comes to fruition, $45+ is likely this year. Otherwise, its a good dividend investment.

disclaimer: I'm not a pro. Do your own research.


Are u refrencing possible USD$ dividends or dragon deal?

USD$ dividends + increased production


So its confirmed no USD$ dividend for 2019.

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Re: good investments?

Postby pugboy » April 5th, 2019, 8:19 am

local stock market has been on a serious roll for 2019

republic, massy, witco, ngl rolling big with plenty demand and sporadic supply

witco and ngl have many important govt funds heavily invested in them
eg nif, nib

look like a lot of people been buying to catch the end of year 2018 dividend payout for a quick 4% return

Unilever come with a big payout too, $2 or something dividend, you could make a quick 8% return if you get shares before the cutoff date and share price dont drop, this is after years of lorses

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