San Fernando to Point Fortin Highway

[9YDMS]

I was by the OAS office last week..That Golconda Flyover already finished,so is the Mon Desir section which I hear is opening on the 24th September 2014 (so dey say)

any updates on this?

[TriP]

Golconda Interchange - Temp. Traffic Management Plan - Tuesday 30th Sept to Tuesday Oct 14th

[TriP]

And

Temp. Road Closure Between Potato Trace And Paria Suites Hotel - from 8pm Friday October 3rd To 4am Monday October 6th, 2014.

[Master of Disaster]

I understanding the man perspective but it is all in line with a greater problem in T&T and any jurisdiction, You can't please everybody.

When the last administration saw a way of eliminating some of our problems was to begin a drive to rapidly develop the nation through infrastructure and communication which would redound to crime fighting and healthcare and better utilities etc. people, including members of the present administration cried out no, we don't want tall buildings! give us utopic healthcare and crime without murders, they didn't listen and get vote out.

Now that we again realise that the problems in our country can't be solved by small changes but by the grand ones that were previously bandied about. For example, no amount of changing streets to one-ways and traffic wardens could solve a massive volume of traffic. Or promise to build all the hospitals you want, unless we don't have doctors and nurses being continually wooed to the US and UK we will always be short staffed and endure long waits.

So now that we don't developed country status or the process to get there, how do we expect to improve our services?

I like this guys thinking . we all need changes especially for daily drivers .not everything can be done perfect .mother earth is unpredictable speaking about flood and other prob to face as some suggested but this is being done to make efficiency and availability to the south part of the country .point Fortin and LA brea is also in plans to be an industrial area for other oil gas and some other companies .its just preparation for the future ahead /the way forward .unless you all like spending a lot of money in vehicle repairs and gas consumption .guys .the country is getting bigger the population is increasing drastically we need foreign investors/new companies
and more working class ppl .

[nervewrecker]

Uploading pics just now

[nervewrecker]

[nervewrecker]

Double post

[nervewrecker]

Random car as gauge of how broad the road is.

The is the round about in dehli road half complete and unpaved as a diversion to complete the next half.

Abbow might bless us with pics from grant trace.

Nothing in pepper village or San francique yet. Will update when something starts

[The_Honourable]

NICE!

[Single_Eight]

Behind everything there is pro's and con's.

1.) Yes the highway will benefit a lot of people from south, easier access, straight road but what about the number of vehicles on the road, we still gonna get a bottle neck, it still gonna have macko's and the end result is that the traffic will not change.

2.) What about the amount of swamp area they gonna back fill, where is all that water going to be displace now? More flooding? More tax payers money gonna be spent again and again?

3.) what about the existing roads, why are they not being repaired? why are they still drunk drivers on the road? why so much vehicles? why all the major business places and ministry buildings in port of spain?

4.) what are we gonna have highway from one end of trinidad to another, easy access in and out.

All this government needed to do was implement some of the major businesses and ministry from POS to central or south. Clamp down on the number of vehicles being license everyday. upgrade the existing roads and where there were traffic lights try to replace with over pass.

The underlying effect is that trinidad macko's will still be around to cause traffic, the stupid driving,
the drunking driving, the flooding, the corruptions everything will be be around just with the extension of the highway, that cause families to relocate and billions spent.

My point is that if the government so want the highway to build, listen to the people and take advice because its the people who put them in power. Work hand in hand and come to a decision that will benefit everyone and take actions towards the littles things as well.

To me it will still take me an 1 hr or 2 hr from penal to piarco because the macko's and the vehicle capacity will not change for better. "Change is good, but its how you do it"

[nervewrecker]

Backfilling the swamp will not cause flooding. Water finds its own level, is if the flow is restricted like the drains currently clogged by nasty people throwing garbage in it and some who saw it fit to build their driveway across it with a 12" cylinder for water to flow through causing it. That and development allowing to occur with no regulations. San francique flooding bad already and work eh even start there yet (not where the highway passing though).

[wagonrunner]

Backfilling the swamp will not cause flooding. Water finds its own level, is if the flow is restricted like the drains currently clogged by nasty people throwing garbage in it and some who saw it fit to build their driveway across it with a 12" cylinder for water to flow through causing it. That and development allowing to occur with no regulations. San francique flooding bad already and work eh even start there yet (not where the highway passing though).

Anyone else baffled by this video?

[nervewrecker]

You comparing water in an enclosed impermeable container to that in a basin that is able to flow in and out?

[wagonrunner]

You comparing water in an enclosed impermeable container to that in a basin that is able to flow in and out?

is that basin that flows in and out affected by rain?
would the level rise if part of said basin is either enclosed by filling in, or blocking of sources to flow out?

[nervewrecker]

Don't the levels in the same channels that empty it rise and fall also? One will think that if a highway is being built they will take into account this rise when putting in drainage infrastructure into place like they do when building bridges. You know, like the bridges all over woodland and environs.
If they building a billion dollar highway that is a solid road through a lagoon without drainage infrastructure to handle the flow of water in and out of the lagoon at the rate it naturally does then someone needs to be shot.

There is a bridge built across a piece of swampland that has underground cylinders to drain the part of the wetland it cut off. Works fine all now.
The flow rate through the cylinders is more or less equal to the flow rate across the cross sectional area of the road length.

[Rory Phoulorie]

The new highway is supposed to have balance culverts along the section in the swamp to transmit sheet flow from one side of the road embankment to the other side.

[cornfused]

Good stuff . On that point on the drive from the east to Port of Spain on mornings. I have noticed that many of the drain outlets in the median culvert are blocked with plastic bottles and or the wood form work that was used in construction . Having experienced torrential rainfall on the CRH there are areas where the clogged drain pose some issues .

[grad]

We are travelling from penal interchange to golconda in these pictures below.

I believe this is where the penal interchange will be. Note: about four or five houses already demolished, and the only house that hasnt moved in the area of the interchange is alledged to be of balliram siew




This is the exit of the debe to penal highway




This is at debe link road going toward ghandi village




this is at the end of the pic above



this is ghandi village onward to debe




debe interchange




golconda interchange

[Ted_v2]

Good work. Perfect route

[TriP]

I was by the OAS office last week..That Golconda Flyover already finished,so is the Mon Desir section which I hear is opening on the 24th September 2014 (so dey say)

any updates on this?

I was by OAS office this morning,I asked an they said by wednesday or thursday plan to open it up.
They have a 24/7 workcrews trying for this week,I also heard from the workers on site said it had 2 UNC officals walking around the Golconda site
(so dey say again)

[Swisha]

Golconda interchanged opened. Hallelujah!

[The_Honourable]

Golconda interchanged opened. Hallelujah!

Yep!

Debe interchange by December-January, and Penal Interchange by June 2015

[NR8]

There is a bridge built across a piece of swampland that has underground cylinders to drain the part of the wetland it cut off. Works fine all now.

Where is this?

[nervewrecker]

National mining trace. Right where the highway passing in silverstream.

[wagonrunner]

Traffic was diverted this morning using the route from this plan. Was there any notice given?
http://www.mowt.gov.tt/general/notice.aspx?noticeID=243

[NR8]

National mining trace. Right where the highway passing in silverstream.

i have no idea where either of those places are

Traffic was diverted this morning using the route from this plan. Was there any notice given?
<span class="skimlinks-unlinked">http://www.mowt.gov.tt/general/notice.aspx?noticeID=243</span>

Notice was given for that plan since about two weeks ago but for the dates stated (13/10/2014 - 18/10/2014). I myself saw or heard nothing about that diversion you encountered this morning.

[nervewrecker]

I'll take a few pics. Went to take pics this weekend of the progress at silverstream but place was too dark.

[wagonrunner]

Traffic was diverted this morning using the route from this plan. Was there any notice given?
<span class="skimlinks-unlinked">http://www.mowt.gov.tt/general/notice.aspx?noticeID=243</span>

Notice was given for that plan since about two weeks ago but for the dates stated (13/10/2014 - 18/10/2014). I myself saw or heard nothing about that diversion you encountered this morning.

Which is why i'm asking. That route was definitely the slower one this morning. Hoped to learn for how long would another route be faster.

[bluesclues]

how does one clean out the treasury? build a highway quoted at more than 50 times the real cost and split up the money after yuh get vote out of government.

[PariaMan]

Highway for douen and jumbies!