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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » May 19th, 2024, 3:00 pm

VexXx Dogg wrote:That raises eyebrows and questions.
Think it was an op under the cover of weather?

There’s been rumblings of calls for a regime change going back a couple years.

It's the President that was in the helicopter - there's still the Iranian Supreme Leader higher up if there is to be any regime change.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby adnj » May 19th, 2024, 3:13 pm

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
VexXx Dogg wrote:That raises eyebrows and questions.
Think it was an op under the cover of weather?

There’s been rumblings of calls for a regime change going back a couple years.

It's the President that was in the helicopter - there's still the Iranian Supreme Leader higher up if there is to be any regime change.


There is an active committee to find a replacement for 85-year-old Ayatollah Khamenei. The two individuals most rumored to be on the shortlist of potential successors are President Ebrahim Raisi and the other is the 54-year-old son of the Ayatollah, Mojtaba Khamenei.

The committee is composed of Rahim Tavakol, Hassan Ameli, and Ebrahim Raisi. Yeah, that Raisi - the guy that they can't find.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Dizzy28 » May 19th, 2024, 3:15 pm

VexXx Dogg wrote:That raises eyebrows and questions.
Think it was an op under the cover of weather?

There’s been rumblings of calls for a regime change going back a couple years.
The weather was the ops.

The infamous Jewish Weather Machine strikes again
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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

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Dizzy28 wrote:The infamous Jewish Weather Machine strikes again
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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » May 19th, 2024, 3:32 pm

adnj wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
VexXx Dogg wrote:That raises eyebrows and questions.
Think it was an op under the cover of weather?

There’s been rumblings of calls for a regime change going back a couple years.

It's the President that was in the helicopter - there's still the Iranian Supreme Leader higher up if there is to be any regime change.


There is an active committee to find a replacement for 85-year-old Ayatollah Khamenei. The two individuals most rumored to be on the shortlist of potential successors are President Ebrahim Raisi and the other is the 54-year-old son of the Ayatollah, Mojtaba Khamenei.

The committee is composed of Rahim Tavakol, Hassan Ameli, and Ebrahim Raisi. Yeah, that Raisi - the guy that they can't find.

That committee was hand picked by the supreme leader himself
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https://engelsbergideas.com/essays/the- ... n-in-iran/

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby adnj » May 19th, 2024, 3:46 pm

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
adnj wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
VexXx Dogg wrote:That raises eyebrows and questions.
Think it was an op under the cover of weather?

There’s been rumblings of calls for a regime change going back a couple years.

It's the President that was in the helicopter - there's still the Iranian Supreme Leader higher up if there is to be any regime change.


There is an active committee to find a replacement for 85-year-old Ayatollah Khamenei. The two individuals most rumored to be on the shortlist of potential successors are President Ebrahim Raisi and the other is the 54-year-old son of the Ayatollah, Mojtaba Khamenei.

The committee is composed of Rahim Tavakol, Hassan Ameli, and Ebrahim Raisi. Yeah, that Raisi - the guy that they can't find.

That committee was hand picked by the supreme leader himself
b05b0503-655f-4b94-a4ca-6f9091db07b0.jpg
https://engelsbergideas.com/essays/the- ... n-in-iran/


And what? You naively assume that the Ayatollah was behind a regime change assassination plot?

Raisi is a member of the committee of succession, the president that was hand picked by the Ayatollah and the Ayatollah's supposed favorite for succession and he goes missing in a chopper crash.

Nefarious or not, it's one hell of a coincidence.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » May 19th, 2024, 4:36 pm

adnj wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
adnj wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
VexXx Dogg wrote:That raises eyebrows and questions.
Think it was an op under the cover of weather?

There’s been rumblings of calls for a regime change going back a couple years.

It's the President that was in the helicopter - there's still the Iranian Supreme Leader higher up if there is to be any regime change.


There is an active committee to find a replacement for 85-year-old Ayatollah Khamenei. The two individuals most rumored to be on the shortlist of potential successors are President Ebrahim Raisi and the other is the 54-year-old son of the Ayatollah, Mojtaba Khamenei.

The committee is composed of Rahim Tavakol, Hassan Ameli, and Ebrahim Raisi. Yeah, that Raisi - the guy that they can't find.

That committee was hand picked by the supreme leader himself
b05b0503-655f-4b94-a4ca-6f9091db07b0.jpg
https://engelsbergideas.com/essays/the- ... n-in-iran/


And what? You naively assume that the Ayatollah was behind a regime change assassination plot?

Raisi is a member of the committee of succession, the president that was hand picked by the Ayatollah and the Ayatollah's supposed favorite for succession and he goes missing in a chopper crash.

Nefarious or not, it's one hell of a coincidence.

I'm not assuming any assassination plot. I think it may just be a case of flying in bad weather.
I'm just showing that Raisi was hand selected by Khamenei himself to be on the committee you pointed out.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby adnj » May 19th, 2024, 5:39 pm

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
adnj wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
adnj wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
VexXx Dogg wrote:That raises eyebrows and questions.
Think it was an op under the cover of weather?

There’s been rumblings of calls for a regime change going back a couple years.

It's the President that was in the helicopter - there's still the Iranian Supreme Leader higher up if there is to be any regime change.


There is an active committee to find a replacement for 85-year-old Ayatollah Khamenei. The two individuals most rumored to be on the shortlist of potential successors are President Ebrahim Raisi and the other is the 54-year-old son of the Ayatollah, Mojtaba Khamenei.

The committee is composed of Rahim Tavakol, Hassan Ameli, and Ebrahim Raisi. Yeah, that Raisi - the guy that they can't find.

That committee was hand picked by the supreme leader himself
b05b0503-655f-4b94-a4ca-6f9091db07b0.jpg
https://engelsbergideas.com/essays/the- ... n-in-iran/


And what? You naively assume that the Ayatollah was behind a regime change assassination plot?

Raisi is a member of the committee of succession, the president that was hand picked by the Ayatollah and the Ayatollah's supposed favorite for succession and he goes missing in a chopper crash.

Nefarious or not, it's one hell of a coincidence.

I'm not assuming any assassination plot. I think it may just be a case of flying in bad weather.
I'm just showing that Raisi was hand selected by Khamenei himself to be on the committee you pointed out.


"Hand selected by Khamenei himself." I believe that it was you that stated, "there's still the Iranian Supreme Leader higher up." That's kinda what a Supreme Leader does...

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby adnj » May 19th, 2024, 5:39 pm

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » May 19th, 2024, 6:38 pm

adnj wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
adnj wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
adnj wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
VexXx Dogg wrote:That raises eyebrows and questions.
Think it was an op under the cover of weather?

There’s been rumblings of calls for a regime change going back a couple years.

It's the President that was in the helicopter - there's still the Iranian Supreme Leader higher up if there is to be any regime change.


There is an active committee to find a replacement for 85-year-old Ayatollah Khamenei. The two individuals most rumored to be on the shortlist of potential successors are President Ebrahim Raisi and the other is the 54-year-old son of the Ayatollah, Mojtaba Khamenei.

The committee is composed of Rahim Tavakol, Hassan Ameli, and Ebrahim Raisi. Yeah, that Raisi - the guy that they can't find.

That committee was hand picked by the supreme leader himself
b05b0503-655f-4b94-a4ca-6f9091db07b0.jpg
https://engelsbergideas.com/essays/the- ... n-in-iran/


And what? You naively assume that the Ayatollah was behind a regime change assassination plot?

Raisi is a member of the committee of succession, the president that was hand picked by the Ayatollah and the Ayatollah's supposed favorite for succession and he goes missing in a chopper crash.

Nefarious or not, it's one hell of a coincidence.

I'm not assuming any assassination plot. I think it may just be a case of flying in bad weather.
I'm just showing that Raisi was hand selected by Khamenei himself to be on the committee you pointed out.


"Hand selected by Khamenei himself." I believe that it was you that stated, "there's still the Iranian Supreme Leader higher up." That's kinda what a Supreme Leader does...

What did you mean by
adnj wrote:The committee is composed of Rahim Tavakol, Hassan Ameli, and Ebrahim Raisi. Yeah, that Raisi - the guy that they can't find.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Dizzy28 » May 19th, 2024, 8:24 pm

I think one point needs to be made.
Raisi's nickname was the Butcher of Tehran. And seems he never stopped with the executions
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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » May 19th, 2024, 9:26 pm

^ yeah there have been protests by the Iranian people to have him removed
https://www.iranintl.com/en/202309195743

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » May 19th, 2024, 11:13 pm

No survivors" have been found at the crash site of the helicopter carrying Iran's President Ebrahim Raisi, according to Iranian state news channel IRINN and semi-official news agency Mehr News

https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/live ... index.html

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby bluefete » May 20th, 2024, 6:56 am

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:No survivors" have been found at the crash site of the helicopter carrying Iran's President Ebrahim Raisi, according to Iranian state news channel IRINN and semi-official news agency Mehr News

https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/live ... index.html


Most "official" reports point to weather and old helicopter flying. But there were 3 and only the one with the President crashed.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Dizzy28 » May 20th, 2024, 9:10 am

bluefete wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:No survivors" have been found at the crash site of the helicopter carrying Iran's President Ebrahim Raisi, according to Iranian state news channel IRINN and semi-official news agency Mehr News

https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/live ... index.html


Most "official" reports point to weather and old helicopter flying. But there were 3 and only the one with the President crashed.


5m visibility and a helicopter almost as old as Raisi which Iran also couldn't have gotten official spares for because of sanctions.

But sure lets fan conspiracy theories.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Dizzy28 » May 20th, 2024, 10:39 am

ed360123 wrote:ICC prosecutor seeks arrest warrant for Israeli and Hamas leaders, including Netanyahu
https://guardian.co.tt/news/icc-prosecutor-seeks-arrest-warrant-for-israeli-and-hamas-leaders-including-netanyahu-6.2.2006014.b56960fe83


There's been an ICC arrest warrant out on Putin since March 2023 and the war in Ukraine has never eased up nor is Putin in jail.

If I had to bet money I would wager that not a single Israeli would ever be arrested.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » May 20th, 2024, 1:06 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:
ed360123 wrote:ICC prosecutor seeks arrest warrant for Israeli and Hamas leaders, including Netanyahu
https://guardian.co.tt/news/icc-prosecutor-seeks-arrest-warrant-for-israeli-and-hamas-leaders-including-netanyahu-6.2.2006014.b56960fe83


There's been an ICC arrest warrant out on Putin since March 2023 and the war in Ukraine has never eased up nor is Putin in jail.

If I had to bet money I would wager that not a single Israeli would ever be arrested.

That's very possible - unless they travel to one of the 123 countries that are part of the ICC
Russia, the United States and Israel are not members of the ICC - UK and Germany are
Don't know how they will get Sinwar


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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Dizzy28 » May 20th, 2024, 1:38 pm

Sinwar is a walking dead. There is no way he makes it out alive from Gaza provided he is still there.
Qatar is not a signatory to the ICC so he's safe if he joins his boys there.

UK and Germany can just refuse to arrest like South Africa did when Omar Bashir visited in 2016 or ask for an exemption like South Africa asked to do when Putin was supposed to have visited.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » May 20th, 2024, 1:44 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:Sinwar is a walking dead. There is no way he makes it out alive from Gaza provided he is still there.
Qatar is not a signatory to the ICC so he's safe if he joins his boys there.

UK and Germany can just refuse to arrest like South Africa did when Omar Bashir visited in 2016 or ask for an exemption like South Africa asked to do when Putin was supposed to have visited.

Which suggests that this ICC warrant means nothing?

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby adnj » May 20th, 2024, 1:55 pm

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:That's very possible - unless they travel to one of the 123 countries that are part of the ICC
Russia, the United States and Israel are not members of the ICC - UK and Germany are
Don't know how they will get Sinwar


The State of Palestine became a member of the court in 2015 - the Palestinian police are bound by their own agreement to take Sinwar into custody - assuming that the warrant is issued by the court. And assuming that there are no Palestinian police that are not also Hamas operatives.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Dizzy28 » May 20th, 2024, 1:58 pm

^ If your not African or close with South Africa it seems so.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » May 20th, 2024, 8:10 pm

More than 900,000 Palestinian people displaced in Gaza over past two weeks

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » May 21st, 2024, 4:24 am

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
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Rules based order... That was a flag flown in the Ukraine thread a lot.


My problem is that America and the west uses its might for punitive motives as opposed for justice.

America is not the world police, it's the world gangster

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » May 21st, 2024, 4:26 am

Dizzy28 wrote:Sinwar is a walking dead. There is no way he makes it out alive from Gaza provided he is still there.
Qatar is not a signatory to the ICC so he's safe if he joins his boys there.

UK and Germany can just refuse to arrest like South Africa did when Omar Bashir visited in 2016 or ask for an exemption like South Africa asked to do when Putin was supposed to have visited.
Sinwar was a walking ded when they started to put things in place to carry out October 7th.

They didn't start it expecting they themselves might get to enjoy the return to their lands.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » May 21st, 2024, 4:28 am

zoom rader wrote:
VexXx Dogg wrote:That raises eyebrows and questions.
Think it was an op under the cover of weather?

There’s been rumblings of calls for a regime change going back a couple years.
There was an episode on homeland tv series that had the same scenario on a helicopter crash.

Smells of Zionism
Could be but kobe Bryant accident was of similar circumstances, if I remember.

Middle East forces have always suffered intermittent losses, and always carried on.
This will be no different

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby zoom rader » May 21st, 2024, 7:51 am

sMASH wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
VexXx Dogg wrote:That raises eyebrows and questions.
Think it was an op under the cover of weather?

There’s been rumblings of calls for a regime change going back a couple years.
There was an episode on homeland tv series that had the same scenario on a helicopter crash.

Smells of Zionism
Could be but kobe Bryant accident was of similar circumstances, if I remember.

Middle East forces have always suffered intermittent losses, and always carried on.
This will be no different
This was an episode on homeland TV series, where the CIA downed the helicopter sighting faulty equipment, but the blackbox showed a different side. Eventually it was found out the CIA did down the helicopter and they covered it up.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » May 21st, 2024, 10:24 am

Israel shuts down AP video live stream of gaza from Isreal. Citing its supplying al jazeera with media, in violation of the laws banning al jazeera.

So much fir freedom of the press in the only democracy in the west Asia.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » May 21st, 2024, 10:26 am

Imagine if the ICC grants the warrants fir bebe and gallant and not for the hamas, lol.

Cause, Palestine is still legally under occupation, and Israel still has obligations as the occupying force

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