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Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:^ the stock market was more important than lives
Kewell35 wrote:Polls narrowing between Trump and Biden.
Imagine if Trump actually win lol.
redmanjp wrote:Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:^ the stock market was more important than lives
the biggest problem with covid getting out of control in the US was severe lack of testing before March- covid was spreading silently but fast before they even had the first confirmed case.
COVID-19 is expected to end in the USA in 2021 due to widespread vaccination availability expected 2Q/3Q 2021 with total deaths comparable to the 1918 influenza pandemic.maj. tom wrote:USA just passed 200,000 Covid-19 deaths. The predicted number that Trump said would be acceptable and then the virus would magically just go away. "It's going to disappear, one day, like a miracle, it will disappear."
15 September 2020
200,197 Deaths.
The 1918 Flu left about 675,000 dead in USA at the end, after the 4th wave in 1920. Should we expect similar numbers for Covid-19 when it'll be over, maybe in 2022?
Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Champion Of Gender Equality, Dies At 87
September 18, 20207:28 PM ET
Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, the demure firebrand who in her 80s became a legal, cultural and feminist icon, died Friday. The Supreme Court announced her death, saying the cause was complications from metastatic cancer of the pancreas.
The court, in a statement, said Ginsburg died at her home in Washington surrounded by family. She was 87.
"Our nation has lost a justice of historic stature," Chief Justice John Roberts said. "We at the Supreme Court have lost a cherished colleague. Today we mourn but with confidence that future generations will remember Ruth Bader Ginsburg as we knew her, a tired and resolute champion of justice."
Architect of the legal fight for women's rights in the 1970s, Ginsburg subsequently served 27 years on the nation's highest court, becoming its most prominent member. Her death will inevitably set in motion what promises to be a nasty and tumultuous political battle over who will succeed her, and it thrusts the Supreme Court vacancy into the spotlight of the presidential campaign.
Just days before her death, as her strength waned, Ginsburg dictated this statement to her granddaughter Clara Spera: "My most fervent wish is that I will not be replaced until a new president is installed."
She knew what was to come. Ginsburg's death will have profound consequences for the court and the country. Inside the court, not only is the leader of the liberal wing gone, but with the Court about to open a new term, Chief Justice John Roberts no longer holds the controlling vote in closely contested cases.
Though he has a consistently conservative record in most cases, he has split from fellow conservatives in a few important ones, this year casting his vote with liberals, for instance, to at least temporarily protect the so-called Dreamers from deportation by the Trump administration, to uphold a major abortion precedent, and to uphold bans on large church gatherings during the coronavirus pandemic. But with Ginsburg gone, there is no clear court majority for those outcomes.
Upcoming Political Battle
Indeed, a week after the upcoming presidential election, the court is for the third time scheduled to hear a challenge brought by Republicans to the Affordable Care Act, known as Obamacare. In 2012 the high court upheld the law by a 5-to-4 vote, with Chief Justice Roberts casting the deciding vote and writing the opinion for the majority. But this time the outcome may well be different.
That's because Ginsburg's death gives Republicans the chance to tighten their grip on the court with another Trump appointment that would give conservatives a 6-to-3 majority. And that would mean that even a defection on the right would leave conservatives with enough votes to prevail in the Obamacare case and many others.
At the center of the battle to achieve that will be Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell. In 2016 he took a step unprecedented in modern times: He refused for nearly a year to allow any consideration of President Obama's supreme court nominee.
Back then, McConnell's justification was the upcoming presidential election, which he said would allow voters a chance to weigh in on what kind of justice they wanted. But now, with the tables turned, McConnell has made clear he will not follow the same course. Instead he will try immediately push through a Trump nominee so as to ensure a conservative justice to fill Ginsburg's liberal shoes, even if President Trump were to lose his re-election bid. Asked what he would do in circumstances like these, McConnell said: "Oh, we'd fill it."
So what happens in the coming weeks will be bare-knuckle politics, writ large, on the stage of a presidential election. It will be a fight Ginsburg had hoped to avoid, telling Justice Stevens shortly before his death that she hoped to serve as long as he did--until age 90.
"My dream is that I will stay on the court as long as he did," she said in an interview in 2019.
'Tough As Nails'
She didn't quite make it. But Ruth Bader Ginsburg was nonetheless an historic figure. She changed the way the world is for American women. For more than a decade, until her first judicial appointment in 1980, she led the fight in the courts for gender equality. When she began her legal crusade, women were treated, by law, differently from men. Hundreds of state and federal laws restricted what women could do, barring them from jobs, rights and even from jury service. By the time she donned judicial robes, however, Ginsburg had worked a revolution.
That was never more evident than in 1996 when, as a relatively new Supreme Court justice, Ginsburg wrote the court's 7-to-1 opinion declaring that the Virginia Military Institute could no longer remain an all-male institution. True, said Ginsburg, most women — indeed most men — would not want to meet the rigorous demands of VMI. But the state, she said, could not exclude women who could meet those demands.
"Reliance on overbroad generalizations ... estimates about the way most men or most women are, will not suffice to deny opportunity to women whose talent and capacity place them outside the average description," Ginsburg wrote.
She was an unlikely pioneer, a diminutive and shy woman, whose soft voice and large glasses hid an intellect and attitude that, as one colleague put it, was "tough as nails."
By the time she was in her 80s, she had become something of a rock star to women of all ages. She was the subject of a hit documentary, a biopic, an operetta, merchandise galore featuring her "Notorious RBG" moniker, a Time magazine cover, and regular Saturday Night Live sketches.
On one occasion in 2016, Ginsburg got herself into trouble and later publicly apologized for disparaging remarks she made about then-presidential candidate Donald Trump.
But for the most part Ginsburg enjoyed her fame and maintained a sense of humor about herself.
Asked about the fact that she had apparently fallen asleep during the 2015 State of the Union address, Ginsburg did not take the Fifth, admitting that although she had vowed not to drink at dinner with the other justices before the speech, the wine had just been too good to resist. The result, she said, was that she was perhaps not an entirely "sober judge" and kept nodding off.
The Road To Law
Born in Brooklyn, N.Y., Ruth Bader went to public schools, where she excelled as a student — and as a baton twirler. By all accounts, it was her mother who was the driving force in her young life, but Celia Bader died of cancer the day before the future Justice would graduate from high school.
Then 17, Ruth Bader went on to Cornell on full scholarship, where she met Martin (aka "Marty") Ginsburg. "What made Marty so overwhelmingly attractive to me was that he cared that I had a brain," she said.
After her graduation, they were married and went off to Fort Sill, Okla., for his military service. There Mrs. Ginsburg, despite scoring high on the civil service exam, could only get a job as a typist, and when she became pregnant, she lost even that job.
Two years later, the couple returned to the East Coast to attend Harvard Law School. She was one of only nine women in a class of over 500 and found the dean asking her why she was taking up a place that "should go to a man."
At Harvard, she was the academic star, not Marty. The couple was busy juggling schedules, and their toddler when Marty was diagnosed with testicular cancer. Surgeries and aggressive radiation followed.
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"So that left Ruth with a 3-year-old child, a fairly sick husband, the law review, classes to attend and feeding me," said Marty Ginsburg in a 1993 interview with NPR.
The experience also taught the future justice that sleep was a luxury. During the year of Marty's illness, he was only able to eat late at night; after that he would dictate his senior class paper to Ruth. At about 2 a.m., he would go back to sleep, Ginsburg recalled in an NPR interview. "Then I'd take out the books and start reading what I needed to be prepared for classes the next day."
Marty Ginsburg survived, graduated, and got a job in New York; his wife, a year behind him in school, transferred to Colombia, where she graduated at the top of her law school class. Despite her academic achievements, the doors to law firms were closed to women, and though recommended for a Supreme Court clerkship, she wasn't even interviewed.
The_Honourable wrote:A third Supreme Court nomination in four years? Trump is liking himself. Republicans have been waiting for this, especially Mitch McConnell.
Dems filibustered, with the left media attempting to stain Neil Gorsuch in 2017.
A meetoo charge out of the blue with the media going nuclear against Brett Kavanaugh in 2018.
Let's see what happens in 2020. As it is a Trump/Republican pic, I expect another battle based on the person's skin color, sex, belief system, etc by dems and the media.
teems1 wrote:The_Honourable wrote:A third Supreme Court nomination in four years? Trump is liking himself. Republicans have been waiting for this, especially Mitch McConnell.
Dems filibustered, with the left media attempting to stain Neil Gorsuch in 2017.
A meetoo charge out of the blue with the media going nuclear against Brett Kavanaugh in 2018.
Let's see what happens in 2020. As it is a Trump/Republican pic, I expect another battle based on the person's skin color, sex, belief system, etc by dems and the media.
50 days until election another 80 if he's a lame duck. This won't happen until mid next year.
The_Honourable wrote:teems1 wrote:The_Honourable wrote:A third Supreme Court nomination in four years? Trump is liking himself. Republicans have been waiting for this, especially Mitch McConnell.
Dems filibustered, with the left media attempting to stain Neil Gorsuch in 2017.
A meetoo charge out of the blue with the media going nuclear against Brett Kavanaugh in 2018.
Let's see what happens in 2020. As it is a Trump/Republican pic, I expect another battle based on the person's skin color, sex, belief system, etc by dems and the media.
50 days until election another 80 if he's a lame duck. This won't happen until mid next year.
I'm thinking the same but I see some republicans starting to press for a nomination before elections. Dems already played their hand that they would not accept the results if Trump wins in November and will challenge it legally. This means if Trump gets a confirmation before elections, and there is an electoral dispute which go through the courts, there is now a very high chance dems will loose at the supreme court 6-3.
Expect dems to prevent a confirmation with most of the media vouching for them. Republicans will push for a conformation where Trump will use this on the election trail. Would not be surprised if random riots pop off to prevent a confirmation.
Things just got a LOT more interesting.
adnj wrote:The_Honourable wrote:teems1 wrote:The_Honourable wrote:A third Supreme Court nomination in four years? Trump is liking himself. Republicans have been waiting for this, especially Mitch McConnell.
Dems filibustered, with the left media attempting to stain Neil Gorsuch in 2017.
A meetoo charge out of the blue with the media going nuclear against Brett Kavanaugh in 2018.
Let's see what happens in 2020. As it is a Trump/Republican pic, I expect another battle based on the person's skin color, sex, belief system, etc by dems and the media.
50 days until election another 80 if he's a lame duck. This won't happen until mid next year.
I'm thinking the same but I see some republicans starting to press for a nomination before elections. Dems already played their hand that they would not accept the results if Trump wins in November and will challenge it legally. This means if Trump gets a confirmation before elections, and there is an electoral dispute which go through the courts, there is now a very high chance dems will loose at the supreme court 6-3.
Expect dems to prevent a confirmation with most of the media vouching for them. Republicans will push for a conformation where Trump will use this on the election trail. Would not be surprised if random riots pop off to prevent a confirmation.
Things just got a LOT more interesting.
Of the eight battleground US states in 2020 that represent 127 electoral votes, three (Arizona, Florida and Georgia) have Republican Governors. They collectively represent 56 electoral votes.
If you are alluding to Bush v. Gore in 2020, Florida's Republican government used different methods for the recount where the US Supreme Court decided that doing so was unconstitutional. Florida ceased counting and reverted to an earlier count that was in the Republican candidate's favor.
Since all elections are decided at the state level, and assuming that all of those Republican controlled states decide in favor of the Republican candidate, it is very unlikely that the US Supreme Court will have any involvement in those decisions.
It is also highly unlikely that the other battleground states will follow in Florida's well documented mismanagement of elections in the last 20 years and trigger Supreme Court involvement.
It is much more likely that the White House and the Senate are concerned that one or both may flip to Democrat and jeopardize a Republican appointment for the vacant Supreme Court Justice's seat.
The_Honourable wrote:I'm thinking the same but I see some republicans starting to press for a nomination before elections. Dems already played their hand that they would not accept the results if Trump wins in November and will challenge it legally. This means if Trump gets a confirmation before elections, and there is an electoral dispute which go through the courts, there is now a very high chance dems will loose at the supreme court 6-3.
Expect dems to prevent a confirmation with most of the media vouching for them. Republicans will push for a conformation where Trump will use this on the election trail. Would not be surprised if random riots pop off to prevent a confirmation.
Things just got a LOT more interesting.
pete wrote:The_Honourable wrote:I'm thinking the same but I see some republicans starting to press for a nomination before elections. Dems already played their hand that they would not accept the results if Trump wins in November and will challenge it legally. This means if Trump gets a confirmation before elections, and there is an electoral dispute which go through the courts, there is now a very high chance dems will loose at the supreme court 6-3.
Expect dems to prevent a confirmation with most of the media vouching for them. Republicans will push for a conformation where Trump will use this on the election trail. Would not be surprised if random riots pop off to prevent a confirmation.
Things just got a LOT more interesting.
That's not what I've been seeing people comment. Their fear is that after in person voting is completed and results become available on election night, if DJT is winning, he will declare those to be the results and stop the counting of mail in votes which he has been wrongfully claiming will be linked to fraud.
That will go to the SC which, if the new justice is confirmed, they vote in favour of stopping the count and steal the election.
I've also seen that a quick confirmation could also drive a much larger of democrats out to vote which may have the effect of securing a win and flipping a lot of senate seats so they may wait til the period between election and inauguration to secure the SC justice.
The_Honourable wrote:pete wrote:The_Honourable wrote:I'm thinking the same but I see some republicans starting to press for a nomination before elections. Dems already played their hand that they would not accept the results if Trump wins in November and will challenge it legally. This means if Trump gets a confirmation before elections, and there is an electoral dispute which go through the courts, there is now a very high chance dems will loose at the supreme court 6-3.
Expect dems to prevent a confirmation with most of the media vouching for them. Republicans will push for a conformation where Trump will use this on the election trail. Would not be surprised if random riots pop off to prevent a confirmation.
Things just got a LOT more interesting.
That's not what I've been seeing people comment. Their fear is that after in person voting is completed and results become available on election night, if DJT is winning, he will declare those to be the results and stop the counting of mail in votes which he has been wrongfully claiming will be linked to fraud.
That will go to the SC which, if the new justice is confirmed, they vote in favour of stopping the count and steal the election.
I've also seen that a quick confirmation could also drive a much larger of democrats out to vote which may have the effect of securing a win and flipping a lot of senate seats so they may wait til the period between election and inauguration to secure the SC justice.
If he gets the third, it could also mean that more republicans will come out to support Trump as he made three supreme court confirmations making it more conservative in one office term. If he gets blocked, republicans will come out to vote to make sure he gets that third confirmation in his 2nd term.
There has been several cases of mail in voting fraud in the past. What you are seeing is that the left wing media is downplaying the issue as if it doesn't exist while right wing media is amplifying the issue to the point of exaggeration. The man issue with mail in voting for me is rejection rates are projected to be higher now than 2016, not because of fraud but for example, persons not getting their ballot or getting it late, incorrectly filling it out, etc.
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