PNM in Gov't(2015-2020)

[Dizzy28]

Saw laurel lezama lee sing at the bottom of that letter and couldnt be bothered to read the rest of it. She is such a sheit snake and representative of all that is wrong with the PNM.

[shogun]

Deviant really desperate now

Agreed.

Serious degenerate move there by Devant....but hey, it's against Rowley an 'em, so it's all good.

[pugboy]

That wouldn’t be Stuart little personal phone though, his entire family have Chinese style numbers, all 8’s
Car plates too

[ProtonPowder]

Moves like this will continue to undermine the credibility of the UNC to the undecided voter. Might be funny to kekeke at and thing, but realise they digging themselves a deeper hole of unelectibility that cannot be climbed out of.

[rebound]

But whats the big deal tho?

[Dizzy28]

Moves like this will continue to undermine the credibility of the UNC to the undecided voter. Might be funny to kekeke at and thing, but realise they digging themselves a deeper hole of unelectibility that cannot be climbed out of.

To be devils advocate though he is not a sitting member of the UNC but a former senator. Everything he is doing is in his capacity as a private individual from his personal account.

[ProtonPowder]

Moves like this will continue to undermine the credibility of the UNC to the undecided voter. Might be funny to kekeke at and thing, but realise they digging themselves a deeper hole of unelectibility that cannot be climbed out of.

To be devils advocate though he is not a sitting member of the UNC but a former senator. Everything he is doing is in his capacity as a private individual from his personal account.

I get you, but what I also get is that perception is everything. Being a former sitting member to the UNC is as important as Krystiana Sankar being Young's former step-daughter; everyone knows the link, and the perception of that link is unbreakable. He embodies the aggression and mindset of the opposition, and is in a sense, the archetype of it.

And for that reason, to the undecided or reluctant voters, the UNC will continue to lose support.

[Dizzy28]

Moves like this will continue to undermine the credibility of the UNC to the undecided voter. Might be funny to kekeke at and thing, but realise they digging themselves a deeper hole of unelectibility that cannot be climbed out of.

To be devils advocate though he is not a sitting member of the UNC but a former senator. Everything he is doing is in his capacity as a private individual from his personal account.

I get you, but what I also get is that perception is everything. Being a former sitting member to the UNC is as important as Krystiana Sankar being Young's former step-daughter; everyone knows the link, and the perception of that link is unbreakable. He embodies the aggression and mindset of the opposition, and is in a sense, the archetype of it.

And for that reason, to the undecided or reluctant voters, the UNC will continue to lose support.

I personally believe he is crazy. For about a year after the 2015 elections he had a long scraggly beard and was very unkempt. Then he had lots of incoherent posts leading to him spamming news sites and other Facebook groups constantly now.

[toyota2nr]

I say Devant is right and has done nothing wrong. Since the PM and the government has chosen to disregard the citizens and their needs and the state of the country under his watch it’s time the citizens speak to him directly. This is the worst government ever in the history of T&T.

[shogun]

To be devils advocate though he is not a sitting member of the UNC but a former senator. Everything he is doing is in his capacity as a private individual from his personal account.

Lmao. And this is where the true problem with what Devant did becomes apparent. Because individuals with their own partisan agendas will seek to excuse this behavior. Tell me then why a founding member of the UNC (Roodal Moonilal) is seeking to give cover to Devant's actions with a blatant lie? Moonilal is throwing out the excuse that "even Trump gave out his personal phone number." But this is not telling the entire story, nor rooted entirely in fact. Trump gave his number to other foreign leaders, NOT to the general public. Also, it was Trump's choice to do so. Yeah, but keep defending the indefensible and see where it leads. Doing this to an average citizen it could be seen as harassment, so why is it any different here to open up the Prime Minister to threats, and harassment? Common sense nuh people.

Sorry, but even the Devil would have trouble advocating here.

[shogun]

I say Devant is right and has done nothing wrong. Since the PM and the government has chosen to disregard the citizens and their needs and the state of the country under his watch it’s time the citizens speak to him directly.

I sincerely (for your sake) hope you're joking. If not, seek help.

[shake d livin wake d dead]

Under all seriousness?? Why give out the #?? What does that accomplish??

[fatboy slim]

Under all seriousness?? Why give out the #?? What does that accomplish??

it accomplishes nothing.

[fatboy slim]

I say Devant is right and has done nothing wrong. Since the PM and the government has chosen to disregard the citizens and their needs and the state of the country under his watch it’s time the citizens speak to him directly. This is the worst government ever in the history of T&T.

no water, bad roads, unemployment rate increasing we need answers from baldylocks and his minions

[toyota2nr]

I say Devant is right and has done nothing wrong. Since the PM and the government has chosen to disregard the citizens and their needs and the state of the country under his watch it’s time the citizens speak to him directly.

I sincerely (for your sake) hope you're joking. If not, seek help.

So tell me then since going to your MP or relevant ministry now achieves nothing what is left for the citizen to do? You sound like full belly telling empty belly to be quiet.

[sMASH]

When cuffie needed 3m, Rowley answwerd the call.

OH, sry, that was for an exclusive number. Now it's wide spread.

[shake d livin wake d dead]

well it took conversations with the PM on a new level

shrugs shoulders

[hydroep]

So after all the talk of sedition and threats of possible legal action, is just to ignore him now?...

Typical Pee oN deM bluster that once again ends in a whimper.

Young: ‘Ignore him’
Devant releases national security minister’s cell number
Clint Chan Tack

TWO days after releasing the Prime Minister’s personal contact information on social media, former minister Devant Maharaj yesterday did the same thing to National Security Minister Stuart Young. On WhatsApp and Twitter, Maharaj said, “Prime Minister Rowley has opted to disconnect from the sufferings of the average citizen caused directly by the mismanagement of the economy by the termination of his cellular telephone.”

He said Young accused him of sedition for calling for a lawful protest and sharing the PM’s cell number. Maharaj urged citizens to call Young and “speak out about the undemocratic pattern of behaviour by the Rowley Administration on his phone.” He then released Young’s phone number. When contacted yesterday about Maharaj publicising his number on social media, Young said, “He is to be ignored.”

In a statement on Saturday, Dr Rowley regretted having to discontinue his telephone number because Maharaj publicised it on social media last Friday. The PM said Maharaj also encouraged and incited people to harass and threaten him. Also on Saturday, Young said, “It is plainly wrong and even dangerous to circulate, publicly, the private information of any citizen, and that includes, public officers.” He urged all civic-minded citizens to reject and condemn Maharaj’s actions.”

Young also said Maharaj’s circulation of calls for protest action warranted a criminal investigation and “may qualify as the serious crime of sedition.” Commissioner of Police Gary Griffith said there is no criminal investigation into Maharaj circulating the PM’s’s personal contact information on social media. But Griffith warned citizens against making this kind of information public because it could jeopardise people’s security. Griffith said subsequent to the PM’s cell phone number being publicised on social media, Rowley received threatening phone calls from one person. He said this matter is now the subject of a police investigation.

People’s National Movement (PNM) Women’s League chairperson Camille Robinson-Regis said the Opposition Leader must condemn Maharaj’s “guerilla gambit.” But she opined that this may not happen if the “opposition’s thin veneer of decorum was shattered on her instructions.” Robinson-Regis said if this is the case, the League demands that Kamla Persad-Bissessar “take responsibility for the reckless actions of her former cabinet member.” She also said the League expects “nothing short of an immediate apology and public interdiction of Mr Maharaj.”

In a statement, the PNM supported Robinson-Regis’ position. PNM public relations officer Laurel Lezama Lee Sing said Maharaj continues to be “unpatriotic and ill-disciplined” in and out of public office. She said Maharaj’s efforts to harass and effectively torment the PM “only serves to prove his “imbecilic and obnoxious levels of thinking, and his malicious intent to attempt to destabilise our country.”

https://newsday.co.tt/2018/12/10/young-ignore-him/

[maj. tom]

This Stuart Young fella, like he is the great grandson of one historical Joseph Goebbels.

[sMASH]

even he DNA tests results does change from one to the other.

[Ben_spanna]

Under all seriousness?? Why give out the #?? What does that accomplish??

People want answers: its not good enough that the Puppet minister answering for him.

You accept the behavior of your PM? what useful purpose has he been serving? has anyone been charged in the AV scandal? oh my bad im not supposed to ask questions about that because thats his PERSONAL friend ....

[Rovin]

cell no issue on tv6 jes now garcia say : let the jackass bray ....

[Monkey Man]

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Lol what? This is a Media Release.

BAWHWHAHAHAHAAHA


Aye I said it before and will say it again. This pnm have toots for brains

[De Dragon]

But whats the big deal tho?

The big deal is that plebs got JUHN Scarfy's number and dared to call with their pleb problems. That number is expressly for tee time information and for when million dollar fake oil scandals are exposed.

[toyolink]

Don't Gov't ministers have multiple phones or numbers.
The PM for instance would certainly have a contact for national security issues and probably an unlisted private number for things not for public business.
If its the number ear-marked for contact with constituents there may not be a problem.
I believe more details are necessary.
BTW, phones and numbers paid for by tax payers are in my thinking to be used for citizens well being.
Laws exist to deal with abusive phone calls and apply to all an sundry.

[De Dragon]

To be devils advocate though he is not a sitting member of the UNC but a former senator. Everything he is doing is in his capacity as a private individual from his personal account.

Lmao. And this is where the true problem with what Devant did becomes apparent. Because individuals with their own partisan agendas will seek to excuse this behavior. Tell me then why a founding member of the UNC (Roodal Moonilal) is seeking to give cover to Devant's actions with a blatant lie? Moonilal is throwing out the excuse that "even Trump gave out his personal phone number." But this is not telling the entire story, nor rooted entirely in fact. Trump gave his number to other foreign leaders, NOT to the general public. Also, it was Trump's choice to do so. Yeah, but keep defending the indefensible and see where it leads. Doing this to an average citizen it could be seen as harassment, so why is it any different here to open up the Prime Minister to threats, and harassment? Common sense nuh people.

Sorry, but even the Devil would have trouble advocating here.

Other side of the coin though, and let me make it clear that to call the PM, or anyone else for that matter, and harass them is unacceptable, we need to be careful of the pedestal the PM is being put on.

[ProtonPowder]

While it is not illegal (yet) to dox somebody in TnT, it is unethical and improper to do so. Public or private, ruling or opposition. The problem is that too many people conflate the law with ethical behaviour; if it is technically legal then nothing can be wrong with doing it.

They cant bring Devant on criminal charges, but what they can do is bring a civil case against him for monetary damages incurred and time lost in changing their numbers. The monetary damages wont be more than $200 if so much, but it would give his lawyers a good runaround.

But then again, that would just prolong this shitshow. For once i agree with something that Garcia says.

[sMASH]

This is a distraction.

[The_Honourable]

So is not the first time Moses playing big and breaching security.

http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/moses-ma ... c0bb0ee6f5

[maj. tom]

but I bet when he visits USA and the TSA patting down his ballsack, shoes and belt off, he does be quite meek and compliant.
PNM blackman treating their own people so eh. As is Tradition.