COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago (Local Updates & Discussions Only)

[shogun]

TV6 showing "I am Legend" at 7:30pm. Them is some jokers yes.

Prolly "Contagion" was too close to home?

[zoom rader]

Nah bai. Now I vex.

ZeeTV just say the covid19 situation has disrupted filming of some of my favorite television serials. They want me to bear with them in this troubling time.

wda I going to watch now? rowley? is only so much of that I could stand

[The_Honourable]

Prime Minister's Short Address to the Nation 29/03/2020

[shogun]

USA up to a whopping 135,000+ cases....

And they havent apex yet

Yup, read that earlier. Madness.

If the Trump administration didn't waste two weeks mocking, downplaying and running to their typical "liberal conspiracy" garbage, they might have had a better handle on things. Just imagine Americans still allowed their kids to go on Spring Break, in the midst if this thing? Hopefully the numbers improve soon, because lives will be lost because of their inaction.

[rspann]

Trump still spouting nonsense . Hold on to the mike twice to throw slang.

[redmanjp]

A tenant call around 7 this morning to say today is her birthday and she wants to have some relatives over to celebrate ,if it's ok . I told her call Penal police and ask them . If she get permission , I have no problems. That was the end of that.

ask the tenant if she want to get infected for her birthday. at least it should not be more than 10 ppl and 3 feet apart.

[rspann]

Some people just have no sense dread. She tell me was a lot more than 10. That's why I tell her ask the poleese.

[Gladiator]

Well that was a waste of 10 mins...

Prime Minister's Short Address to the Nation 29/03/2020

[redmanjp]

Some people just have no sense dread. She tell me was a lot more than 10. That's why I tell her ask the poleese.

are u the landlord? is it an apartment building? u could tell her that gathering posing a threat to others nearby.

Covid19 was declared a dangerous infectious disease by the President- so landlords should have their own rules for their property.

[adnj]

Fauci predicts up to 200,000 U.S. deaths as Trump weighs adjusting coronavirus guidelines. Here is what you should know.

Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, projected millions of Americans will contract COVID-19 and between 100,000 and 200,000 people could succumb to it. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's worst-case-scenario earlier estimated at least 200,000 could die from the virus this year. 

Public health officials reiterated the grim estimates Sunday as the Trump administration weighed whether to extend its 15-day guidance to slow the spread the virus. Trump has said he wants to lift recommendations that Americans work from home and avoid discretionary shopping, but also said he would consider input from health experts.

"Looking at what we're seeing now, I would say between 100,000 and 200,000" deaths,  Fauci told CNN’s "State of the Union." "We're going to have millions of cases."

At midday Sunday, the U.S. had recorded about 125,000 coronavirus cases, according to Johns Hopkins University, though the true number is likely much higher. The university had tallied 2,201 deaths, with by far the highest share in New York City. 

Where are things now? 

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention projected a worst-case scenario of 160 million to 210 million cases by December. Under that forecast, 21 million people would need hospitalization and 200,000 to 1.7 million could die by the end of the year. Health officials have cautioned that the models of infection rate vary widely. 

https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiECZ9VBwrRayd0wmVpL_MWhAqGQgEKhAIACoHCAowjsP7CjCSpPQCMKCK0wU?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen

[gastly369]

What was the summary?

Well that was a waste of 10 mins...

Prime Minister's Short Address to the Nation 29/03/2020

[pugboy]

that is a scary prediction from fauci
and well if usa stay home is until 30th
more than likely we will extend ours to that until the major centers ny etc are out of the woods
given them say peak will be in 2-3 weeks then our april 15th for sure gonna be extended

[rspann]

You think they know we have to aim for the 30th ,but just softening the blow by saying two weeks?

[triniterribletim]

You think they know we have to aim for the 30th ,but just softening the blow by saying two weeks?

With the crazy antics that went on yesterday, there is no way it is only going to be until the 15th. The 30th is an optimistic estimate from the US, a lot of countries that started with a simple stay at home order ended up extending and deepening it. We can hope we are able to flatten the curve by then and look into recovering some semblance of normalcy.

[88sins]

TV6 showing "I am Legend" at 7:30pm. Them is some jokers yes.

Prolly "Contagion" was too close to home?

Coulda show CARRIERS instead.

[EFFECTIC DESIGNS]

why do people feel we can return to work etc in a month or 2?

This virus is obviously here to stay, the UK just warned they are going to shut down for 6 months and even that is being optimistic.

This virus is going nowhere without a Vaccine. This thing is far too contagious the top man who fought the battle against SARS already said you would have to be EXTREMELY lucky to drive this thing back into the wild as in winning the lotto lucky.

This problem could last for YEARS literally until a vaccine is invented

Just imagine is ONE case cause all this problem just ONE person.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

Sunday marks one month since the first recorded deaths in the U.S. from the coronavirus.
Health officials paint stark image of coronavirus' impact on the U.S.



When you think of the Trillions of $$$ the US spends on defence but not one bullet or bomb or jet fighter can do anything to help stop this.

[carluva]

One person who ate a bat or a pangolin

why do people feel we can return to work etc in a month or 2?

This virus is obviously here to stay, the UK just warned they are going to shut down for 6 months and even that is being optimistic.

This virus is going nowhere without a Vaccine. This thing is far too contagious the top man who fought the battle against SARS already said you would have to be EXTREMELY lucky to drive this thing back into the wild as in winning the lotto lucky.

This problem could last for YEARS literally until a vaccine is invented

Just imagine is ONE case cause all this problem just ONE person.

[EFFECTIC DESIGNS]

^ Yup and look what happened after just 1 person who ate a bat so it is unlikely we are ever going to drive this back into the wild it is here to stay.

I was telling my mother and them to buy food and stuff and stock up but they said they aren't doing that because no amount of panic buying is going to last forever sooner or later you have to go and buy more groceries so they only spent like $900 in groceries the regular they always do.

The truth is they don't want to spend the money, old Indian people like that they don't spend a bad cent. But my gut feeling is all the money they have saved will eventually be devalued we could wake up one morning and see hyper inflation. And the money they try to save now if food get scarce which it will no doubt about it, they will pay 3 times that amount or more.

I don't see how anybody thinks they can save money right now for the future. Just imagine what the future is going to look like, can you also imagine what is going to happen in venezuela when this breaks loose overthere? this thing has a real potential to be the true Armageddon that we have been waiting for.

[paid_influencer]

we are a literal island tho. There isn't much place the virus can hide. We just need to quarantine, identify, contain, and repeat. Each cycle is about 14 days and we may need a few cycles to flush out all the infected people.

These first cycles are the hardest, since we are identifying not based on tests, but clinical presentation to the hospital. Person comes in the bilateral pneumonia, they are assumed to have it, contact tracing begins and those contacts are isolated. The starting point for isolation orders is after the virus has been spreading for two weeks.

Once the tests get to become point-of-care, the battle becomes very winnable at least on our island. One person tests positive, their contacts are immediately tested, and we're working from day 3 or 4 of spread instead of day 14.

[EFFECTIC DESIGNS]

the CCP is the real enemy, nobody must ever forget what China has done to the world, while all the left wing news outlets all the liberals continue to defend China, no one is ever going to forget what they did to the world when they silenced and killed anybody who tried to raise the alarm on this virus.

If you think they have Corona under control you are a fool, the CCP has propaganda on levels the Nazis could only have dreamed about. Have a look at this latest video from 60 minutes Australia.

Notice how the Chinese Trolls and the Western Liberals are already down voting this crucial video exposing China.

[EFFECTIC DESIGNS]

we are a literal island tho. There isn't much place the virus can hide. We just need to quarantine, identify, contain, and repeat. Each cycle is about 14 days and we may need a few cycles to flush out all the infected people.

These first cycles are the hardest, since we are identifying not based on tests, but clinical presentation to the hospital. Person comes in the bilateral pneumonia, they are assumed to have it, contact tracing begins and those contacts are isolated. The starting point for isolation orders is after the virus has been spreading for two weeks.

Once the tests get to become point-of-care, the battle becomes very winnable at least on our island. One person tests positive, their contacts are immediately tested, and we're working from day 3 or 4 of spread instead of day 14.

Except that Venezuela is right next door and countless people still continue to flood this country on a daily basis and they will continue to do so, we are never going to be able to lock down our borders, when you think that you have it under control, BAM shot a new person who sneaked across has brought yet another case. This thing is way too contagious and our proximity to Venezuela is just not likely we can have this under control no matter what we do. A Vaccine is needed ASAP, every resource on the planet is needed to provide a Vaccine for this thing.

Don't get me wrong in theory what you say sounds very likely that we are somehow going to contain this the reality is completely different. The amount of variables at play is shocking

[killercow]

I never understood the concept of panic buying. Sooner or later someone who purchased (possibly before you) will run out of stocks before you and need to replenish. There MUST be a place open to do so. I plan on going out to replenish maybe Wednesday or Thursday. This 'last minute' rush (even though ALL supermarkets will still be open) was for the sheep trinis who obviously don't think things through often or at all.

[pugboy]

even if we clear up within that time
it is very unlikely those other countries will given their size
so unless we continue to lock the borders or require a locked mandatory quarantine when you fly in
and i mean quarantine like in balandra

You think they know we have to aim for the 30th ,but just softening the blow by saying two weeks?

With the crazy antics that went on yesterday, there is no way it is only going to be until the 15th. The 30th is an optimistic estimate from the US, a lot of countries that started with a simple stay at home order ended up extending and deepening it. We can hope we are able to flatten the curve by then and look into recovering some semblance of normalcy.

[rspann]

PI , like ED asked , but in a different way , wouldn't they have to keep the borders shut subsequent to that in order to maintain the infection free status ? How long can they , or are they willing to keep the borders closed ?

[88sins]

The problem we're having with development of a vaccine is because of the most common and expected host animal that started this, the bat.
Even though bats are mammals, they have very unique immune systems that somehow allow them to carry diseases that can be fatal to other mammals with no ill effects. Up to this day scientists still have no real idea about how bats can live while infected with so many different pathogens, such as Ebola, Nipa, and many others. So reverse engineering is definitely out. That primarily leaves us with option 2, finding and replicating human antibodies from recovered survivors and persons that may be immune. This isn't going to be easy either but will still be easier than option 1.

All we can do is work at it, safeguard ourselves from infection if possible, and wait.

[paid_influencer]

That is a good point. Many venes would prefer not to be tested, since a positive test might risk them getting deported. We should make some sort of amnesty, ensuring any testing is purely public health related. Maybe go further and make it as a requirement for getting the 1 year registration card. That concurrent with more policing of the border.

The nice thing about is getting a point-of-care test will be sooner rather than later. I'm thinking weeks out

[rspann]

I never understood the concept of panic buying. Sooner or later someone who purchased (possibly before you) will run out of stocks before you and need to replenish. There MUST be a place open to do so. I plan on going out to replenish maybe Wednesday or Thursday. This 'last minute' rush (even though ALL supermarkets will still be open) was for the sheep trinis who obviously don't think things through often or at all.

I don't like the idea of calling it panic buying. I think people are just preparing for shortages or SOE or any eventuality that might cause them and their dependents to be in a dangerous position. It's basic survival instinct. Birds do it , squirrels do it , nothing is really wrong with it. Right now even having to be out there in lines and crowds is dangerous , so being prepared has its advantages. The situation is fluid and every day brings something new so those who stocked up from early o clock have a little security.

[88sins]

That is a good point. Many venes would prefer not to be tested, since a positive test might risk them getting deported. We should make some sort of amnesty, ensuring any testing is purely public health related. Maybe go further and make it as a requirement for getting the 1 year registration card. That concurrent with more policing of the border.

The nice thing about is getting a point-of-care test will be sooner rather than later. I'm thinking weeks out

Son, when the proverbial SHTF there, if we aren't careful our population and our health care system will be literally overrun by them. I believe that as of right now they are heavily under reported. When they can no longer hide this, that's when it'll begin.

[paid_influencer]

PI , like ED asked , but in a different way , wouldn't they have to keep the borders shut subsequent to that in order to maintain the infection free status ? How long can they , or are they willing to keep the borders closed ?

if you go to certain occupations, they require recent blood tests (antibody titers) and chest X-rays before you are admitted. IIRC, some countries also require similar things when applying for VISAs. Presumably we could hinge entry on presentation of a recent negative test at immigration.

That said, airports are an infection epicenter themselves. so