.::The Official General Election 2015 Thread::.

[De Dragon]

For Habit7 and the Newsday quoters from above, you are no better than zr, UML by using allegations and one sided stories to bolster an argument.

It's a strategy, plain and simple. You feel that they came up with this on their own? They prolly paid handsomely to conceptualize, study, and flesh out a plan to demonize him before the GE. The sad part is that he plays into their hands quite often, which would have been a part of the pre-plan analysis I'm sure.

Sure De Dragon, we all need to be objective and neutral as you. Could you tell us when you at Kamla's house overhearing them plan Rowley's demise, did you take a selfie?

No, but we definitely need to stop being a puerile hypocrite like you. Your reaction precisely mirrors the man you slavishly support and defend no matter what, and that is why "chain up' and "basket" will be your downfall. I merely stated what the PP's tactic is leading up to the GE, and criticized you for employing a tactic you yourself have cried down constantly from zr, UML etc. So don't slip on your tears on the way to prostrate at your leader's feet.

[Habit7]

For Habit7 and the Newsday quoters from above, you are no better than zr, UML by using allegations and one sided stories to bolster an argument.

It's a strategy, plain and simple. You feel that they came up with this on their own? They prolly paid handsomely to conceptualize, study, and flesh out a plan to demonize him before the GE. The sad part is that he plays into their hands quite often, which would have been a part of the pre-plan analysis I'm sure.

Sure De Dragon, we all need to be objective and neutral as you. Could you tell us when you at Kamla's house overhearing them plan Rowley's demise, did you take a selfie?

No, but we definitely need to stop being a puerile hypocrite like you. Your reaction precisely mirrors the man you slavishly support and defend no matter what, and that is why "chain up' and "basket" will be your downfall. I merely stated what the PP's tactic is leading up to the GE, and criticized you for employing a tactic you yourself have cried down constantly from zr, UML etc. So don't slip on your tears on the way to prostrate at your leader's feet.

I just criticised the PNM in my last post.

And isn't your uncorroborated allegation and one sided story of the PP's strategy evidence of your hypocrisy for condemn those who mention allegations and one sided stories?

[EFFECTIC DESIGNS]

I am surprised that Diego Martin hates Rowley so much.

Is this report accurate? How could they hate Rowley so much? Isn't that generally a PNM stronghold?

[pete]

Was marginalish last election

[EFFECTIC DESIGNS]

Hmm I see. I wonder if PPG would win Diego this time?

[De Dragon]

For Habit7 and the Newsday quoters from above, you are no better than zr, UML by using allegations and one sided stories to bolster an argument.

It's a strategy, plain and simple. You feel that they came up with this on their own? They prolly paid handsomely to conceptualize, study, and flesh out a plan to demonize him before the GE. The sad part is that he plays into their hands quite often, which would have been a part of the pre-plan analysis I'm sure.

Sure De Dragon, we all need to be objective and neutral as you. Could you tell us when you at Kamla's house overhearing them plan Rowley's demise, did you take a selfie?

No, but we definitely need to stop being a puerile hypocrite like you. Your reaction precisely mirrors the man you slavishly support and defend no matter what, and that is why "chain up' and "basket" will be your downfall. I merely stated what the PP's tactic is leading up to the GE, and criticized you for employing a tactic you yourself have cried down constantly from zr, UML etc. So don't slip on your tears on the way to prostrate at your leader's feet.

I just criticised the PNM in my last post.

And isn't your uncorroborated allegation and one sided story of the PP's strategy evidence of your hypocrisy for condemn those who mention allegations and one sided stories?

I merely pointed out the obvious for those who still seem surprised by the strategy being employed by the PP against the Opposition Leader. What story are you talking about?

[Habit7]

What if the PM says that the allegation that you previously stated, that she handsomely paid someone to conceptualise a plan to demonize the Opposition Leader is a vile attempt to discredit her and her party and to bring down a sitting government!?! Expect a pre-action protocol letter in the mail.



Relax dude, I don't claim to be neutral and it is clear I support the PNM and I'm willing to criticise them.

You however are doing a horrible job as passing yourself off as neutral, all while pawning yourself with your contradictions. If you don't like what I post you don't have to respond to them, sorry if they upset you.

[megadoc1]

Hmm I see. I wonder if PPG would win Diego this time?

No! because COP turned Out to be a big Disappointment

[De Dragon]

What if the PM says that the allegation that you previously stated, that she handsomely paid someone to conceptualise a plan to demonize the Opposition Leader is a vile attempt to discredit her and her party and to bring down a sitting government!?! Expect a pre-action protocol letter in the mail.



Relax dude, I don't claim to be neutral and it is clear I support the PNM and I'm willing to criticise them.

You however are doing a horrible job as passing yourself off as neutral, all while pawning yourself with your contradictions. If you don't like what I post you don't have to respond to them, sorry if they upset you.

Neutral? I am anti-Rowley. What contradictions? I call a spade a spade even if it means going against whatever party I support. Upset? What are you 12?. This is an open forum last time I checked.

[Allergic2BunnyEars]

What if the PM says that the allegation that you previously stated, that she handsomely paid someone to conceptualise a plan to demonize the Opposition Leader is a vile attempt to discredit her and her party and to bring down a sitting government!?! Expect a pre-action protocol letter in the mail.



Relax dude, I don't claim to be neutral and it is clear I support the PNM and I'm willing to criticise them.

You however are doing a horrible job as passing yourself off as neutral, all while pawning yourself with your contradictions. If you don't like what I post you don't have to respond to them, sorry if they upset you.

Neutral? I am anti-Rowley. What contradictions? I call a spade a spade even if it means going against whatever party I support. Upset? What are you 12?. This is an open forum last time I checked.

Let's say Amery Browne was the opposition leader would you have still posted support for the PPG strategy in this instance? I think it is possible to be anti rowley but not support the PPG in this case. It's like saying one's strategy is to thief out a bank and basically condoning it because it's just an expected strategy of a thief.

[Habit7]

What he is sad is that he doesn't realise that he is a victim of the very plan he is accusing the PPG of.

[De Dragon]

What if the PM says that the allegation that you previously stated, that she handsomely paid someone to conceptualise a plan to demonize the Opposition Leader is a vile attempt to discredit her and her party and to bring down a sitting government!?! Expect a pre-action protocol letter in the mail.



Relax dude, I don't claim to be neutral and it is clear I support the PNM and I'm willing to criticise them.

You however are doing a horrible job as passing yourself off as neutral, all while pawning yourself with your contradictions. If you don't like what I post you don't have to respond to them, sorry if they upset you.

Neutral? I am anti-Rowley. What contradictions? I call a spade a spade even if it means going against whatever party I support. Upset? What are you 12?. This is an open forum last time I checked.

Let's say Amery Browne was the opposition leader would you have still posted support for the PPG strategy in this instance? I think it is possible to be anti rowley but not support the PPG in this case. It's like saying one's strategy is to thief out a bank and basically condoning it because it's just an expected strategy of a thief.

Amery Browne is not belligerent, bullish and a "wajang". He articulates his, and his party's views eloquently without having to resort to this type of conduct. Calling Rowley a rapist without a shred of evidence is heinous at best (as I said before in threads), and should be condemned. The strategy to demonize him is not what I personally agree with, but the way he takes bait time and time again would have been studied by Phillip Alexander etc, and then a plan devised along those lines.

[eliteauto]

Dragon do you consider Dr Moonilal to be a wajang?

[kjaglal76v2]

I am surprised that Diego Martin hates Rowley so much.

Is this report accurate? How could they hate Rowley so much? Isn't that generally a PNM stronghold?

i am surprised anybody likes him

[UML]

still trying their best to use the Race Card and promote Racial Division



when did slaves own land?



mental slavery



is this the same one Amy Browne spoke about?



plenty red bai from posters to juzzy

[De Dragon]

Dragon do you consider Dr Moonilal to be a wajang?

As the Chief Whip Roody behaves accordingly. Let us just say he is a more dignified version of a wajang.

[pete]

They want to put hotels so we have to slave after De white man again. Is that the theme? Massa day done etc?

[UML]

those PNM "angels"

Colm referred to Integrity Commission


Renuka Singh

Published:
Sunday, May 10, 2015

Colm Imbert
Questions on whether People’s National Movement (PNM) Senator Colm Imbert used millions of dollars of state resources during his tenure as minister of works and transport to divert the Maraval River off his private lands in Moka, Maraval, have been sent to the Integrity Commission.

Businessman Emile Elias, who compiled a series of documents and copies of letters dating back to 2003 when Imbert first purchased the multi-million dollar property near the Moka golf course, delivered the packet to the Integrity Commission on Thursday.

In one of the 2003 letters, a project manager at Total Real Estate Services Ltd informed the works supervisor at the Drainage Division they had been retained privately by Imbert to undertake the work of realigning the Maraval River off the property at Kaia Lane, Moka.

In that letter, the company requested a speedy response as it needed to take advantage of the dry season in order to complete the works.

The Ministry of Works and Transport, which is responsible for drainage works, approved the work but stipulated that the cost must be borne privately.

Checks by the Sunday Guardian found that Total Real Estate Services Ltd was owned by Imbert in 2003. Despite the request for a speedy ministerial approval, no work was done on the property and Total Real Estate Services Ltd was struck off the companies registry in 2005. By 2006, the Imbert Construction Group Ltd, utilising the same registered address as the now defunct Total Real Estate Services, applied to Town and Country Planning seeking permission to divide the lands for residential purposes, to carry out the necessary engineering operations and to divert the Maraval River and fill the old watercourse.

A response from Town and Country, by letter dated January 18, 2006, gave Imbert one year to the date to start the works or the permission would lapse. Town and Country Planning also asked the Imbert Construction Company to verify whether the property was allocated as a recreational open space.

That letter also noted one discrepancy with the measurements of the land in question. Town and Country noted that Imbert’s company described the land as 1.2 hectares (2.9 acres) but it was actually found to be 5.83 hectares (14.4 acres).

Another letter from the Ministry of Works and Transport, dated September 29, 2009, was directed to Imbert Construction Group Ltd referencing the property at Kaia Lane, Moka, Maraval. In that letter the Drainage Division acknowledged that the realignment was done and was completed to the satisfaction of the ministry.

Imbert was the minister of works and transport at the time that letter was sent to his construction company.

No response from Imbert

The Sunday Guardian attempted to reach Imbert through an email, voicemails and text over the past week. Calls to his mobile phone produced only one pickup before it was immediately disconnected.

Elias’ complaints:

Elias compiled a three-page, 11-item cover letter attached to the documents. In the letter Elias recalled that he had made a previous application to the commission on the same issue in which he stated that the river was diverted in 2008. This, Elias said, was corroborated by accounts from neighbours who were present when the work was being done.

“The burning question is why did Mr Imbert, who owned the Moka lands personally, use his company to make the application?” Elias asks in his letter. “I would ask you to note that while the said letter gives the address of the company, no mention is made as to who the directors are,” he said.

He also states after the initial application to the Drainage Division in 2003 and the response that the job had to be undertaken privately, there was no work on the property.

“The application trail went cold,” Elias said.

“It was not until March 2006 after Imbert became the minister of works and transport that an application was made to Town and Country Planning Division by a different company of Mr Imbert’s—Imbert Construction Group Ltd—for permission to develop the Moka lands which was stated to include the diversion/realignment of the Maraval River,” Elias stated.

“It is therefore clear to me that the diversion of the Maraval River took place at the earliest in 2008 and the latest 2009—a period during which Mr Imbert held the portfolio of minister of works and transport. The realignment of the river and the development of the Moka lands was also clearly done at a feverish pace when compared to the great stagnation prior to Mr Imbert’s tenure as minister of works and transport,” Elias said.

Elias told Sunday Guardian that on a job that scale millions of dollars of state funds would have been spent.

Imbert’s companies:

Imbert Construction Services BN 13-34

Registered in 1987

Registered to Colm Imbert, civil engineer, Trinidadian (formerly Antiguan).

March 18, 1996, company ceased to carry on business

Total Real Estate Services:

Registered in 1997

Original directors: Colm Imbert and Ralph Williams

May 2002-Ruth Van Lare replaced Lesley Ann Charles as secretary

July 2002-Ruth Van Lare and Suzanne Williams-Imbert replaced Ralph Williams and Imbert as directors

Imbert Construction Group:

Incorporated 1996

In 2002 Imbert was replaced as a director by Ruth Van Lare.

In 2008, Imbert transferred his shares in the company to wife, Suzanne Williams-Imbert.

On May 12, 2011, Imbert replaces Van Lare as director

On April 29, 2011, Imbert Construction changed its name to Comprehensive Building Managers.

Imbert remained listed as a director.

http://m.guardian.co.tt/news/2015-05-09 ... commission

[1UZFE]

Dont kno why dey hatin. Chag development will need cleaners, labourers and landscapers...

[UML]

They want to put hotels so we have to slave after De white man again. Is that the theme? Massa day done etc?

the main reason why Petrotrin profitable with lower oil prices

with massa running operations africans cant cry race against koolees

[The_Honourable]

They want to put hotels so we have to slave after De white man again. Is that the theme? Massa day done etc?

the main reason why Petrotrin profitable with lower oil prices

with massa running operations africans cant cry race against koolees

If you can't blame the white man directly, blame the "structure" of white supremacy

When this story first broke, many bawl oh how the lands was sold where it was actually LEASED for 30 years (can be more only under presidential consent) since the CDA can't sell lands. I fully agree with the lease and to continue with development. I have no problem with foreigners coming in and invest or forming partnerships with locals to develop the area.

My main concern is the families that are under the Chaguaramas Legal Landowners Organisation (CLLO) that have claim to some of the lands, who were evicted by the British during World War 2 to establish a US Base. It is about time this matter be settled once and for all.

The farmers that have leases to the lands, the CDA should leave them alone or buy out their leases. Farmers that don't have leases and occupying illegally... pelt them out.

After Dr. Eric Williams got the US to return the lands in 1977, which i applaud, I think it is disingenuous and pitiful that the PNM is coming now after so many decades playing that they are struggling with the families and farmers of the Chaguaramas area. A good chunk of those lands never went back or compensated to the families and the PNM had 20+ years in government to sort out this issue. Was the intention NOT to give the families back their lands in the first place?

[eliteauto]

^^^^ fully agreed once there is transparency in the award of the leases, the PNM never returned the land to it's rightful owners nor offered any real compensation, I'm not in favor of the removal of the farmers though, too much prime agricultural lands being lost to "development", I suppose they could move them further into the Valley where the "mega farms" are and let the development continue

[rspann]

Anybody else notice like the mega farms not really planting? I don't know why we have a high food import bill and we have so much arable land all over Trinidad. If they get rid of CEPEP, there might be available labour to do agriculture. We could plant grass like in countries who do livestock rearing and supply all our food that is now imported.

[meccalli]

You guys are missing the point about Chag, it's about privatization and monetizing an open access resource for filling ghost's pockets with no reinput for the resource preservation and enhancement. Chain link is a wonderful addition to the shoreline, don't you think?

[pete]

Free access to land vs hundreds of jobs?

[kjaglal76v2]

Dont kno why dey hatin. Chag development will need cleaners, labourers and landscapers...

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[hustla_ambition101]

Would love to see how much green space will be left after its plundered

[meccalli]

Because we desperately need jobs and development in Chag.

[shogun]

Would love to see how much green space will be left after its plundered

[UML]

look like the march buss!!

#bussments

Ricardo Welch
Sunday 10th May 2015
By Ricardo "Gladiator" Welch

PNM SUPPORTERS BLANK ROWLEY's MARCH TO CHAGUARAMAS

Yesterday's (Saturday) PNM march to Chaguaramas flopped. Less than a thousand PNM supporters turned up. Though the march was being led by Dr Keith Rowley it fell flat on his face since he failed to attract a large turnout. Only recently the constituents of Diego Martin West expressed growing concerns over the non-performance of their MP, Rowley who has not represented the area effectively and efficiently since 1991. Not even Jack Warner could of bring out 30 persons to support Rowley.

From early yesterday morning PNM activist called organizers complaining that many PNM supporters are blanking the Maxis and buses and were not interested in coming out to support any march to Chaguaramas with its leader. Rowley, who is losing credibility day by day, is now deemed to be a reckless leader as a direct result of his "Rowleygate" or "Emailgate" scam which is a big scandal, in which, he was recently suspended from Parliament for lies, half truths and innuendos. He has even failed to attract the famous PNM "Red-Army" that normally comes out in their thousands. At the end of the day those who turn up left totally disappointed. Some even cuss-up very stink the PNM organizers for not doing enough to bring out the masses but that was only after they eat chicken pelau and had a few spirits.
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