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drchaos wrote:sMASH wrote:drchaos wrote:sMASH wrote:How much it does cost to ship refined from petrotrin refinery to petrotrin storage?drchaos wrote:First y’all claim it cheaper to produce gas here because it’s in our back yard ...
It’s not cheaper ... none of you have bothered to respond. Petrotrin can not compete. We are making a loss on subsidized fuel then a loss on operation of petrotrin. How does that make sense? PNM for all their faults actually did something about the situation instead of the UNC letting the party continue long after the lights come on.
The lights on people time to sober up and go home and realize the party and free ride done.
I am glad de Pee on em actually getting Sheit done. Time for allu to pay for y’all sheit.
Allu go ball when they raise electricity rates after election.
Cost still more than importing?
I still contend that producing locally is lower than importing. Even more so when the refinery and storage is streamlined.
You delusional ... Refinery and storage can never be streamlined ... Petrotrin is run by 3 organisations State, board and Union. None of those groups will let you "Streamline" anything.
You are really snorting or smoking hallucinogenic so if you think this could have been done.
so it cant be made more economical, yet u think that the state bringing in fuel, and not telling the price, and determining the selling price, will be more economic?
with supporters like you, the whole pnm side will look like marlene
There is something called the freedom of information act ... Not everything needs to be announced to you. It is freely available to the public.
With smart people like you playing dumb ... no wonder T&T in the mess you claim it to be in.
drchaos wrote:shake d livin wake d dead wrote:randolphinshan wrote:Ben_spanna wrote:I still cant believe there are people in Trinidad that support this corrupt, ignorant and uncaring government party.... has history not revealed enough?? are you all to stupid to see the writing on the wall or are you Sooo racial that you would not have anyone from a different Ethnic background govern your country for your betterment?
No problem in supporting someone else killa, but you cannot in any stretch of the imagination be referring to the UNC bunch of bandits. From 6 million dollar fire truck to 34 million life sport they are the ultimate WORST government ever. So take a next pick bro. Any ask Uncle Khalid and Aunty Kams where the oil they bragged about that they found is while you at it.
How exactly has the pnm proven itself as a good govt??
Ended Petrotin welfare project ... sic Garry on dey ass ... Dealing with the excess fat in TSTT (WASA and T&TEC next)
Raised gas price to actually make us pay what its worth.
UNC half ass some of the above while frittering away a sheit load of money ... OFC the PNM corrupt but they getting sheit done.
timelapse wrote:drchaos wrote:shake d livin wake d dead wrote:randolphinshan wrote:Ben_spanna wrote:I still cant believe there are people in Trinidad that support this corrupt, ignorant and uncaring government party.... has history not revealed enough?? are you all to stupid to see the writing on the wall or are you Sooo racial that you would not have anyone from a different Ethnic background govern your country for your betterment?
No problem in supporting someone else killa, but you cannot in any stretch of the imagination be referring to the UNC bunch of bandits. From 6 million dollar fire truck to 34 million life sport they are the ultimate WORST government ever. So take a next pick bro. Any ask Uncle Khalid and Aunty Kams where the oil they bragged about that they found is while you at it.
How exactly has the pnm proven itself as a good govt??
Ended Petrotin welfare project ... sic Garry on dey ass ... Dealing with the excess fat in TSTT (WASA and T&TEC next)
Raised gas price to actually make us pay what its worth.
UNC half ass some of the above while frittering away a sheit load of money ... OFC the PNM corrupt but they getting sheit done.
Getting what done exactly?Sending up inflation rates even more now?Where is all the big talk now with their plans of economic growth, increased local production , diversifying etc? What exactly has the government achieved thus far?
drchaos wrote:timelapse wrote:drchaos wrote:shake d livin wake d dead wrote:randolphinshan wrote:Ben_spanna wrote:I still cant believe there are people in Trinidad that support this corrupt, ignorant and uncaring government party.... has history not revealed enough?? are you all to stupid to see the writing on the wall or are you Sooo racial that you would not have anyone from a different Ethnic background govern your country for your betterment?
No problem in supporting someone else killa, but you cannot in any stretch of the imagination be referring to the UNC bunch of bandits. From 6 million dollar fire truck to 34 million life sport they are the ultimate WORST government ever. So take a next pick bro. Any ask Uncle Khalid and Aunty Kams where the oil they bragged about that they found is while you at it.
How exactly has the pnm proven itself as a good govt??
Ended Petrotin welfare project ... sic Garry on dey ass ... Dealing with the excess fat in TSTT (WASA and T&TEC next)
Raised gas price to actually make us pay what its worth.
UNC half ass some of the above while frittering away a sheit load of money ... OFC the PNM corrupt but they getting sheit done.
Getting what done exactly?Sending up inflation rates even more now?Where is all the big talk now with their plans of economic growth, increased local production , diversifying etc? What exactly has the government achieved thus far?
Like you get beat with a dotish stick when you was small?![]()
The inflation rate is the lowest its been in a long while ...
9.28% in 2012 under the UNC
Currently 2.33% under the PNM
And look I have actual facts to back up this stuff ... Not just bull you regurgitated from Cunilal rear end.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/728 ... nd-tobago/
timelapse wrote:drchaos wrote:timelapse wrote:drchaos wrote:shake d livin wake d dead wrote:randolphinshan wrote:Ben_spanna wrote:I still cant believe there are people in Trinidad that support this corrupt, ignorant and uncaring government party.... has history not revealed enough?? are you all to stupid to see the writing on the wall or are you Sooo racial that you would not have anyone from a different Ethnic background govern your country for your betterment?
No problem in supporting someone else killa, but you cannot in any stretch of the imagination be referring to the UNC bunch of bandits. From 6 million dollar fire truck to 34 million life sport they are the ultimate WORST government ever. So take a next pick bro. Any ask Uncle Khalid and Aunty Kams where the oil they bragged about that they found is while you at it.
How exactly has the pnm proven itself as a good govt??
Ended Petrotin welfare project ... sic Garry on dey ass ... Dealing with the excess fat in TSTT (WASA and T&TEC next)
Raised gas price to actually make us pay what its worth.
UNC half ass some of the above while frittering away a sheit load of money ... OFC the PNM corrupt but they getting sheit done.
Getting what done exactly?Sending up inflation rates even more now?Where is all the big talk now with their plans of economic growth, increased local production , diversifying etc? What exactly has the government achieved thus far?
Like you get beat with a dotish stick when you was small?![]()
The inflation rate is the lowest its been in a long while ...
9.28% in 2012 under the UNC
Currently 2.33% under the PNM
And look I have actual facts to back up this stuff ... Not just bull you regurgitated from Cunilal rear end.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/728 ... nd-tobago/
The same people you believing in also say that the level of crime is down.So I'd take that with a grain of salt
Those figures supplied by Impbutt rear or front end ?(both spew the same)
Learn something today
So far , what prices went down? Balisier juice?
And learn to read graphs properly. Overall there is a decline in inflation until 2017, then it goes back up and it is projected to continue going back up.
Inflation refers to the sustained increase in the prices of goods and services from year to year, resulting in the decline in purchasing power of a country's currency.
The price of foreign currency, namely USD which we value our currency against has been increasing, which means our purchasing power is declining.
Some causes of inflation:
If there is an increase in the costs of firms, then businesses will pass this on to consumers
Higher Import prices
Increase of raw material prices
When firms push up prices to get higher rates of inflation. This is more likely to occur during strong economic growth.( This went on prior to Growley's crew of misfits)
Declining productivity- Mass firing of workers will cause this
Higher taxes
Rising house prices
P.S. I could tel you who I beat with the dotish stick , but you will run home crying to the very same person.
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Since aswari came into office he talking about locking up somebody for corruption...still waiting on that
pugboy wrote:he get a partial start with the court case win to force financial institutions to reveal suspect account info a few weeks ago
but time running out with about a year to goshake d livin wake d dead wrote:Since aswari came into office he talking about locking up somebody for corruption...still waiting on that
Dizzy28 wrote:pugboy wrote:he get a partial start with the court case win to force financial institutions to reveal suspect account info a few weeks ago
but time running out with about a year to goshake d livin wake d dead wrote:Since aswari came into office he talking about locking up somebody for corruption...still waiting on that
They does always say fix your home first....
Lie Wari have McDonald, Khan, Regis and himself/inlaws where he can start with investigating suspicious transactions particularly Government to Private real estate transactions.
'The Opposition is sabotaging T&T' says Rowley
The Opposition “is sabotaging the country” and “protecting the criminal elements.”
So said Prime Minister Dr Keith Rowley as he addressed a public meeting on the City Hall, POS on Thursday night.
The Prime Minister said the UNC was "hell bent" on not voting for the Income Tax Amendment bill because it wanted " to protect the criminal element in the country who is parading in the financial sector, those with money to launder, those with money to hide, and those with money they can't explain". He said the Opposition also knew that the outcome of not supporting the measure would be “chaos” and the “ sinking of the banking sector”.
"This is sabotage by Parliamentarians, the same way that we have sabotage on the boat [when] people stuffed the toilets with oranges and those who stuffed jerseys in the toilets at the Brian Lara Stadium, (similarly) the Opposition is sabotaging the country," he declared.
He said for the Opposition to say it would not vote for a bill which would prevent the country "from being expelled from the world banking system" or for us "to have pay more to those who allow us to continue doing business with them, to bring hardship to poor people...I call that sabotage", he reiterated.
Recalling that the UNC had pledged to make the country ungovernable, the Prime Minister said the Opposition had now found a way.
"Our banking sector, the strongest area of our economy..they know if they attack the banking sector...it would create economic collapse..of this fragile economy. When Minister Imbert announced in the last budget that we had 1.9 per cent growth they (the UNC) almost got diarrhea. Because that is the last thing that they wanted to hear", he said.
"And the last thing they also wanted to hear is that the police is fighting crime successfully. They want to be able to say 'murder here, murder there'...They almost died of shock when I supported a former politician from another party to be the Commissioner of Police...They invested all their political whatever in the ferry (problems) between Trinidad and Tobago. Well when the two ferries arrive in Trinidad and Tobago, all Lomotil [going to] sell out," he said, sending the crowd in uproar.
The boycott of T & T has begun
The Prime Minister said "already Ambassadors of foreign countries that have companies that are doing business in Trinidad and Tobago, have come to the Government to warn us that their companies are telling them that if we don't get our act together and get ourselves out of this situation (by passing the bill), they will have difficulty doing business in and with Trinidad and Tobago. We are there already."
"Kamla Persad Bissessar and Bhoe Tewarie are telling you, that they so want to protect your, what they call it, constitutional rights, that they will not vote in support of this (bill) and then you will (have to) bank by yourself, play by yourself and conduct your own economy; We, who are a nation trading in the world economy, we who are encouraging our banks to grow, only this week Republic Bank has spread its wings across the Caribbean by buying out Scotia bank, which is good for the people of Trinidad and Tobago.... Republic Bank is the region’s leading bank. If it comes from a country...that is a FATF pariah, what do you think is going to happen to us? Who is going to want to do business with a bank whose home country is where we are today and can go worse?...But they (the UNC) tell you they protecting you. Well let me say tonight, from this platform, they not protecting you at all. They are putting you at risk unnecessarily and you have to ask yourself, just who they are protecting. They want to protect the status quo where the FIU could be receiving reports on an annual basis of $20 billion of suspicious transactions carried out by criminals", he said.
The Prime Minister said for those who may think that he is being harsh when he says that the UNC is supporting the criminal element, he wanted to remind them that it was the same political party which as a government used the Cabinet and deceived the Parliament in order to pass Section 34 "to prevent their friends from appearing in court... and up to this day, 16 years after white collar criminal conduct took place at in the Piarco project, there are persons in this country still to appear before a court for their conduct". He said while their (white collar criminal) colleagues in America have already gone to jail , in Trinidad and Tobago "nothing happening. And that is what the Opposition UNC is defending", he said.
The Prime Minister said the contractor who was building the water treatment plant in the Beetham, who got "the last billion dollars from NGC's kitty", left the country the day after the 2015 election when the government changed. "[That contractor] Left a billion dollar project, high and dry,..that is the same contractor who painted off his name from the equipment that (was used to) build the (last) Prime Minister's house", the Prime Minister said. He added that Beetham contract which was awarded at $400 million more than the lowest bid, was about white collar crime and government had this matter in court.
He said LifeSport was also white collar crime. "$400 million (spent) and murder she wrote," he said.
The Prime Minister said the PNM saved the country $1.5 billion by retendering six contracts which had been previously awarded under the last government. "And you must ask yourselves where that $1.5 billion was going and who was getting it. And when you have the answer to that, those are the people that are being protected by the UNC when they talk about protecting the people's interests," he said.
"So now that the international community is saying to us that we must not stymie the FIU, that the FIU and the police must be able to go to where there is reason to believe there is criminal conduct, the UNC is saying 'no'.
We gave them everything they wanted
He said his Government, in an effort to satisfy the Opposition, put an amendment to allow a judge to determine whether there is sufficient reason for the police to access taxpaying information and that the police officer must not be below the rank of Superintendent. "We still can't pacify them (the UNC)," he said.
He said the UNC's position now was that they want to deal with two other bills, which are currently before the House and which according to the standing orders cannot be considered at this time.
“ But they have found themselves in that situation because we have given them everything they wanted and they are trying to contrive a reason for not supporting the bill," he said.
The Prime Minister said he wrote to the Opposition Leader on Monday morning requesting a private meeting “at her convenience” and she responded on Wednesday, suggesting a meeting time of 11.30 on Friday, a mere two hours before the Parliament sits on the issue. “So that meeting is a sham”, he said.
Pledging PNM 23 votes in support of the measure, he said If the Global Forum requirements are not satisfied, the PNM would have done its part.”
The successful passage of the bill requires at least three votes from the other side.
pugboy wrote:Kamla keep ducking the meetings and sending incompetent non legal party members
It’s really glaring now
MPs who don’t show up for work should not be paid
sMASH wrote:I want a good 10 years of pnm... Straight. Let the people feeeel it.
Take it and take it whole night.
Fleck dat.. I voting pnm 2020.
Me eh business.. I will survive.
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:sMASH wrote:I want a good 10 years of pnm... Straight. Let the people feeeel it.
Take it and take it whole night.
Fleck dat.. I voting pnm 2020.
Me eh business.. I will survive.
Could not have agreed more...strangely pnm mites are those who feel it the most...only thing I not doing is voting
fatboy slim wrote:shake d livin wake d dead wrote:sMASH wrote:I want a good 10 years of pnm... Straight. Let the people feeeel it.
Take it and take it whole night.
Fleck dat.. I voting pnm 2020.
Me eh business.. I will survive.
Could not have agreed more...strangely pnm mites are those who feel it the most...only thing I not doing is voting
totally agree
Ok so what about the intelligent UNC, non sufferering supporters and opposition? Are you all cucks who love getting dominated by the blackman?hydroep wrote:fatboy slim wrote:shake d livin wake d dead wrote:sMASH wrote:I want a good 10 years of pnm... Straight. Let the people feeeel it.
Take it and take it whole night.
Fleck dat.. I voting pnm 2020.
Me eh business.. I will survive.
Could not have agreed more...strangely pnm mites are those who feel it the most...only thing I not doing is voting
totally agree
That is the plan. If anyone else takes power, the entire complement of red and ready supporters who quiet now will come out in force and blame the new administration for the country's problems, so leave Growlers right there.
They wanted PNM, leh dem take PNM. Ah hope Sh!tkicker shove he boots so far up his supporters' arse it come through their mouth. Dotish set of sh!tlicking skunts...
mero wrote:Ok so what about the intelligent UNC, non sufferering supporters and opposition? Are you all cucks who love getting dominated by the blackman?hydroep wrote:fatboy slim wrote:shake d livin wake d dead wrote:sMASH wrote:I want a good 10 years of pnm... Straight. Let the people feeeel it.
Take it and take it whole night.
Fleck dat.. I voting pnm 2020.
Me eh business.. I will survive.
Could not have agreed more...strangely pnm mites are those who feel it the most...only thing I not doing is voting
totally agree
That is the plan. If anyone else takes power, the entire complement of red and ready supporters who quiet now will come out in force and blame the new administration for the country's problems, so leave Growlers right there.
They wanted PNM, leh dem take PNM. Ah hope Sh!tkicker shove he boots so far up his supporters' arse it come through their mouth. Dotish set of sh!tlicking skunts...
A set a "if UNC was in power, dey woulda protest and bun down d country!"
Man only whining on FB and 2nr how ppl doh stand up for deyself and protest but literally describing deyself cuz the sun prob too hot to march in.
If all you could do is cry on 2nr in the comfort of yuh bedroom and expect the same dotish PNM ppl who allyuh despise, hate and love to see suffering who united and vote Kamla and that WOFT party out to come back to your defense, bess allyuh hush allyuh batty and take bull and smile from the dark Lord. Allyuh deserve to be dominated .
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