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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby matr1x » April 1st, 2024, 6:21 pm

zoom rader wrote:
matr1x wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
matr1x wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
matr1x wrote:Kamala has proven to be useless. Hindu traditional ways kept them from turning into mindless church dummies. Afro trinis have only the culture the slave masters gave them.
Then we need a Muslim party since both Christian and Hindus have failed



God no.

Where islam is, freedom and happiness dies. Normally with explosive effect. Firetruck them
Well stick to the good Anglican PNM Party that pretends they multi religious



They are not perfect, but they would not restrict alcohol and pork
You are just anti-Muslim and no better than a PNM voter




I am.waiting for you to have a valid point

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby wing » April 3rd, 2024, 12:41 pm

Barry Padarath’s salvo
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IT was jarring to hear Barry ­Padarath, the Member of Parliament for ­Princes Town, lay into his colleagues calling for internal elections in the Opposition United National Congress in the way that he did.
MP for Mayaro Rushton Paray had led the way in calling for elections for a UNC national executive by their due period in June. Padarath accused Paray and other UNC colleagues ­Anita Haynes-Alleyne, Rai Ragbir and Rodney Charles of intentionally destabilising the party to realise their own leadership ambitions—something they want to parachute into without putting in the work.

The life of Natex is two years, and the current one was elected in June 2022. Paray and others are alarmed that candidate/seat screening for a general election would be taking place now. Although Prime Minister Dr Keith Rowley has the ability to call an early general election, the constitutional outer limit of the life of the current Parliament is August 2025—17 months away. UNC nomination forms became available at the start of the year, the submission deadline is in ten days and screening is set for May.

Two Mondays ago, Anita Haynes-­Alleyne, the MP for Tabaquite, expressed her support for Paray’s call. She said supporting the leadership of Opposition Leader Kamla Persad-Bissessar and Natex elections according to the schedule are not incompatible positions.

It is unclear what the hurry is from the UNC leadership to get its constituency candidates in place, or what led them to believe Rowley plans a snap election. In any case, the argument was calmly demolished by Haynes-Alleyne, who pointed out that in 2010 when a coalition government, led by Persad-Bissessar, won, UNC internal elections were held a few months before the general election.

Trust is the biggest dividing line in the party. Camp Kamla sees the calls as a disguised leadership challenge. Other UNC members see it as Persad-Bissessar insulating herself against a possibly successful leadership challenge ahead of elections for party ­leader next year.

I think they’re both correct. Whether or not the motives of those calling for elections are founded purely on demo­cratic principle, there’s no doubt that a proportion of the UNC’s membership do not believe, if you push them, that Persad-Bissessar can prevail against Rowley at the third time of trying.

Moreover, they think that with the small three-seat majority that it enjoys, the People’s National Movement is beatable, not least because the Rowley Government appears to have lost the confidence of the public on confronting violent crime.

Rowley seems to favour loyalty over performance and other retention considerations, as his benevolence towards Fitzgerald Hinds and his bringing back Marlene McDonald into his team have shown. (McDonald died late last year, and received generous tributes from both sides of the aisle, including Persad-Bissessar.)

Only a scientific opinion poll can truly gauge feeling within the UNC on Persad-Bissessar’s perceived ability to beat Rowley at the next election. It’s why, some dissidents say, it’s important that rank-and-file voting be held before candidate screening.

Paray had been the target of withering criticism since he went public about internal elections, but Haynes-Alleyne’s intervention seemed to truly trigger Camp Kamla. Padarath reserved much of his scorn for her.

“Haynes’ media salvo was part of the passive-aggressive approach carefully calculated... to give the impression that this has nothing to do with the leader, when we know for a fact that it does,” he said.

“Anita was gifted with a UNC safe seat at a time when no one knew who she was, and she had no impressive track record in the party,” he went on, and “that’s what Mr Panday would have called a maha neemakharam”.

Padarath is only in his second term as an MP, having been selected to contest the seat in 2015. He hasn’t spent one minute in government. He’s barely seasoned as a legislator. And yet, there he was talking like prime Tim Gopee­singh.

Give him his due. The young MP has led on important legislation on child protections. However, he mostly owes his prominence in the UNC to his strong familiarity with the cut and fit of Mrs KPB’s coattails.

Al Franken, the former Democratic senator from Minnesota, was also speaking of Republicans when he said of Ted Cruz, the junior senator from Texas: “I probably like Ted Cruz more than most of my other colleagues like Ted Cruz; and I hate Ted Cruz.”

Padarath may be a delightful fellow, but he’s strongly disliked by a section of his own caucus. They bristle at his unearned importance.

He should have thought more carefully about his “safe seat” diss. He won Princes Town in 2015 by a 6,653 majority and retained it by 6,572—roughly two-thirds of total votes. Haynes-Alleyne won hers by 6,232. You didn’t exactly contest Laventille East/Morvant, Barry.

Amid the intense barrage from Padarath and others, Dr Roodal Moonilal, the deputy political leader, sounded the calmest. He made the not unreasonable argument that he contested the leadership when there was a contest, and fell in line when he lost. Paray’s, he repeated, was a disguised leadership challenge.

Paray, for his part, didn’t handle the leadership question well when Marlan Hopkinson of CCN TV6’s Morning Edition subjected him to persistent questioning on it.

The UNC is a divided mess at the moment. A sign of its dysfunction is that Taharqa Obika, who defected to the PNM last June, is still listed on its website as a member of Natex.


Interesting perspective, is he racist?

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby zoom rader » April 3rd, 2024, 12:45 pm

wing wrote:Barry Padarath’s salvo
Orin Gordon

IT was jarring to hear Barry ­Padarath, the Member of Parliament for ­Princes Town, lay into his colleagues calling for internal elections in the Opposition United National Congress in the way that he did.
MP for Mayaro Rushton Paray had led the way in calling for elections for a UNC national executive by their due period in June. Padarath accused Paray and other UNC colleagues ­Anita Haynes-Alleyne, Rai Ragbir and Rodney Charles of intentionally destabilising the party to realise their own leadership ambitions—something they want to parachute into without putting in the work.

The life of Natex is two years, and the current one was elected in June 2022. Paray and others are alarmed that candidate/seat screening for a general election would be taking place now. Although Prime Minister Dr Keith Rowley has the ability to call an early general election, the constitutional outer limit of the life of the current Parliament is August 2025—17 months away. UNC nomination forms became available at the start of the year, the submission deadline is in ten days and screening is set for May.

Two Mondays ago, Anita Haynes-­Alleyne, the MP for Tabaquite, expressed her support for Paray’s call. She said supporting the leadership of Opposition Leader Kamla Persad-Bissessar and Natex elections according to the schedule are not incompatible positions.

It is unclear what the hurry is from the UNC leadership to get its constituency candidates in place, or what led them to believe Rowley plans a snap election. In any case, the argument was calmly demolished by Haynes-Alleyne, who pointed out that in 2010 when a coalition government, led by Persad-Bissessar, won, UNC internal elections were held a few months before the general election.

Trust is the biggest dividing line in the party. Camp Kamla sees the calls as a disguised leadership challenge. Other UNC members see it as Persad-Bissessar insulating herself against a possibly successful leadership challenge ahead of elections for party ­leader next year.

I think they’re both correct. Whether or not the motives of those calling for elections are founded purely on demo­cratic principle, there’s no doubt that a proportion of the UNC’s membership do not believe, if you push them, that Persad-Bissessar can prevail against Rowley at the third time of trying.

Moreover, they think that with the small three-seat majority that it enjoys, the People’s National Movement is beatable, not least because the Rowley Government appears to have lost the confidence of the public on confronting violent crime.

Rowley seems to favour loyalty over performance and other retention considerations, as his benevolence towards Fitzgerald Hinds and his bringing back Marlene McDonald into his team have shown. (McDonald died late last year, and received generous tributes from both sides of the aisle, including Persad-Bissessar.)

Only a scientific opinion poll can truly gauge feeling within the UNC on Persad-Bissessar’s perceived ability to beat Rowley at the next election. It’s why, some dissidents say, it’s important that rank-and-file voting be held before candidate screening.

Paray had been the target of withering criticism since he went public about internal elections, but Haynes-Alleyne’s intervention seemed to truly trigger Camp Kamla. Padarath reserved much of his scorn for her.

“Haynes’ media salvo was part of the passive-aggressive approach carefully calculated... to give the impression that this has nothing to do with the leader, when we know for a fact that it does,” he said.

“Anita was gifted with a UNC safe seat at a time when no one knew who she was, and she had no impressive track record in the party,” he went on, and “that’s what Mr Panday would have called a maha neemakharam”.

Padarath is only in his second term as an MP, having been selected to contest the seat in 2015. He hasn’t spent one minute in government. He’s barely seasoned as a legislator. And yet, there he was talking like prime Tim Gopee­singh.

Give him his due. The young MP has led on important legislation on child protections. However, he mostly owes his prominence in the UNC to his strong familiarity with the cut and fit of Mrs KPB’s coattails.

Al Franken, the former Democratic senator from Minnesota, was also speaking of Republicans when he said of Ted Cruz, the junior senator from Texas: “I probably like Ted Cruz more than most of my other colleagues like Ted Cruz; and I hate Ted Cruz.”

Padarath may be a delightful fellow, but he’s strongly disliked by a section of his own caucus. They bristle at his unearned importance.

He should have thought more carefully about his “safe seat” diss. He won Princes Town in 2015 by a 6,653 majority and retained it by 6,572—roughly two-thirds of total votes. Haynes-Alleyne won hers by 6,232. You didn’t exactly contest Laventille East/Morvant, Barry.

Amid the intense barrage from Padarath and others, Dr Roodal Moonilal, the deputy political leader, sounded the calmest. He made the not unreasonable argument that he contested the leadership when there was a contest, and fell in line when he lost. Paray’s, he repeated, was a disguised leadership challenge.

Paray, for his part, didn’t handle the leadership question well when Marlan Hopkinson of CCN TV6’s Morning Edition subjected him to persistent questioning on it.

The UNC is a divided mess at the moment. A sign of its dysfunction is that Taharqa Obika, who defected to the PNM last June, is still listed on its website as a member of Natex.


Interesting perspective, is he racist?
Not important at the moment.


PNM Victory 2025 by an idiot nation

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby MaxPower » April 3rd, 2024, 1:02 pm

zoom rader wrote:PNM Victory 2025 by an idiot nation


Correct.

The population bawl and howl like monkeys about O the country this and that, crime this and that, Rowley mc, we go dead…and how they can’t survive a next 5 years under PNM, SAME thing they said 5 years ago….

And still vote PNM.


As if UNC is any better.

Anyways Zoom, you was right all along.

A stupid AF country filled with stupid AF people.

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby zoom rader » April 3rd, 2024, 3:46 pm

MaxPower wrote:
zoom rader wrote:PNM Victory 2025 by an idiot nation


Correct.

The population bawl and howl like monkeys about O the country this and that, crime this and that, Rowley mc, we go dead…and how they can’t survive a next 5 years under PNM, SAME thing they said 5 years ago….

And still vote PNM.


As if UNC is any better.

Anyways Zoom, you was right all along.

A stupid AF country filled with stupid AF people.
And PNM people spend spend spend, making 1% super billionaires while they get scraps.

Boy what a country.

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby mero » April 3rd, 2024, 4:41 pm

Have anything with the UNC to look forward to?

Somebody post a lil propaganda self nah.

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby wing » April 3rd, 2024, 4:49 pm

mero wrote:Have anything with the UNC to look forward to?

Somebody post a lil propaganda self nah.
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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby VexXx Dogg » April 3rd, 2024, 5:23 pm

wing wrote:
mero wrote:Have anything with the UNC to look forward to?

Somebody post a lil propaganda self nah.
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Notice he joined all parties except one?

Clearly a man on a wholly altruistic mission to save his country from poor governance and bobol.

I send my sincere thanks for his selfless sacrifice and service.

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby eliteauto » April 3rd, 2024, 5:55 pm

Vexx I think he offered himself for screening with the PNM as well in the past. Even appeared on a podium IIRC

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby VexXx Dogg » April 3rd, 2024, 6:01 pm

eliteauto wrote:Vexx I think he offered himself for screening with the PNM as well in the past. Even appeared on a podium IIRC
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby pugboy » April 3rd, 2024, 6:17 pm

well best thing is they put him as independent senator

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby wing » April 4th, 2024, 12:58 pm

Calls for term limits for politicians at constitutional reform talks



Changes to the country’s governance structure, as well as the return of capital punishment, were among the various recommendations discussed during the first consultation on constitutional reform.



The public discussion held in Sangre Grande on Tuesday, included members of the business community and other groups, who suggested implementing term limits for prime ministers. They suggested that rotating the leadership role after two terms could lead to greater transparency and accountability.


One participant stated, “Maybe we reduce the terms of politicians, so instead of five years you have to come back to us every four years. Five years I think is too long and I think our politicians get too comfortable. In the last year of an election is when all the sweeteners come, all the goodies and all the promises, so we need a right time to keep them on their toes.”

At present, a prime minister has no limits on how many times he or she can run for office.

There were also recommendations for stronger penalties for criminals, as well as consideration for reversing existing laws about marijuana use.

One attendee suggested, “We need to reverse the laws that allow marijuana or drugs to be used in the open or used in homes, put it somewhere else.”


Numerous calls were made for the Constitution to be introduced into the school curriculum as a means of ensuring greater public awareness about the laws governing the land.

Committee chairman Barendra Sinanan, SC, said public participation from young people was key to the exercise.

“We are trying to get our views which we will crystallise into terms of reference. Our objective is to get those terms and have the powers that be listen to you. The young people, this country is yours to gain tomorrow and young people must make the difference,” Sinanan said.

In January, the advisory committee was appointed and includes former House Speakers Barendra Sinanan and Nizam Mohammed, former deputy Central Bank governor Dr Terrence Farrell, retired THA chief administrator Ray Sandy, accountant Hema Narinesingh, retired Permanent Secretary Winston Rudder and attorney and former clerk of the House Jacquie Sampson-Meiguel.

The committee has been mandated by the Government to collect views from the public on constitutional reform and make recommendations for a national consultation in June. Prime Minister Dr Keith Rowley noted that reform of the Constitution had been a matter for quite some time and there had been previous attempts to reform it.

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby wing » April 4th, 2024, 1:05 pm

Where is the mob that crashed the RIC consultation? Constitutional reform is as important as utility rates. I suspect a certain government with a 29/12 majority a few years ago who had the opportunity to effect reform, and whose supporters and unpaid trolls complain about padding and tiefing and EBC corrupt, are really quite content with the status quo, especially the supreme chairman who is the recipient of two salaries and no responsibility.


Also, apparently Paray, Anita and others are agents of the PNM? Why is the boss lady sitting with this dude?]

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby wing » April 4th, 2024, 1:31 pm

wing wrote:Where is the mob that crashed the RIC consultation? Constitutional reform is as important as utility rates. I suspect a certain government with a 29/12 majority a few years ago who had the opportunity to effect reform, and whose supporters and unpaid trolls complain about padding and tiefing and EBC corrupt, are really quite content with the status quo, especially the supreme chairman who is the recipient of two salaries and no responsibility.


Also, apparently Paray, Anita and others are agents of the PNM? Why is the boss lady sitting with this dude?]
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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby Mmoney607 » April 4th, 2024, 1:45 pm

wing wrote:Where is the mob that crashed the RIC consultation? Constitutional reform is as important as utility rates. I suspect a certain government with a 29/12 majority a few years ago who had the opportunity to effect reform, and whose supporters and unpaid trolls complain about padding and tiefing and EBC corrupt, are really quite content with the status quo, especially the supreme chairman who is the recipient of two salaries and no responsibility.


Also, apparently Paray, Anita and others are agents of the PNM? Why is the boss lady sitting with this dude?]

Victor Roberts (coffin man) supporting Paray now.

I not putting Anita in that category as yet, she is dougla :)

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby wing » April 4th, 2024, 5:29 pm

Rambally?

Letter seems fake though.

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Postby K74T » April 4th, 2024, 7:13 pm

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby Mmoney607 » April 4th, 2024, 7:18 pm

This is the second time this happen. But as usual, pnm will ignore the facts and run with it.

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby Habit7 » April 4th, 2024, 7:24 pm

Mmoney607 wrote:This is the second time this happen. But as usual, pnm will ignore the facts and run with it.

yeah PNM like Johnny Walker https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php? ... 6967817483

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby paid_influencer » April 4th, 2024, 7:27 pm

people sharing fake letter and kekeing like pantyman

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby VexXx Dogg » April 4th, 2024, 8:03 pm

That letter is an obvious troll. Nobody in their right mind would burn the bridge they on plus the lands on both sides.

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby wing » April 6th, 2024, 8:09 am

UNC, Gary and Fixit screening candidates. Any accomodation talks? Or was it just talk?
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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby MaxPower » April 6th, 2024, 8:56 am

mero wrote:Have anything with the UNC to look forward to?


Yeh merz.


Another L

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby mero » April 6th, 2024, 11:42 am

Right again Mr. Powers.

Party in shambles, yet tuner polls predict UNC victories in elections. How?

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby wing » April 6th, 2024, 12:06 pm

Breaking news...UNC rejects PEP accomodation due to fundamental difference in policy.
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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby VexXx Dogg » April 6th, 2024, 4:16 pm

wing wrote:Breaking news...UNC rejects PEP accomodation due to fundamental difference in policy.
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I agree with PEA here. Alcohol abuse starts pretty early for most. Raising the age, removing the sexy advertising like what they did with Tobacco in the 90s can plausibly put a dent in it.

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby paid_influencer » April 6th, 2024, 4:23 pm

wing wrote:Breaking news...UNC rejects PEP accomodation due to fundamental difference in policy. Screenshot_2024-04-06-12-03-48-567_com.android.chrome-edit.jpg


putting aside your racist portrayal of UNC and their members,

this really is a conversation we need to have. drunk 18 year olds are a danger to themselves and others.

current situation only benefits those that want exploit said drunk 18 year olds (not a good thing at a societal level)
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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby matr1x » April 6th, 2024, 4:27 pm

Wing wanted an east indian woman, and she didn't want him

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby wing » April 6th, 2024, 4:38 pm

matr1x wrote:Wing wanted an east indian woman, and she didn't want him
Yawn.

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