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alfa wrote:If flooding the tunnels was an issue they could have tear gassed it or flood it in sections. Unless you're a civil engineer you just on nonsense as usual. Israel was never serious about Hamas. As to Hanmas 'civilian' casualties on Oct 7 I keep asking given the conscription service, just how much actual civilians got killed? You tell me, you seem to have Jewish roots
The final death toll from the attack is now thought to be 695 Israeli civilians, including 36 children, as well as 373 security forces and 71 foreigners, giving a total of 1,139.
This excludes five people, among them four Israelis, still listed as missing by the prime minister's office.
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/2 ... t-7-deaths
civilian
/sɪˈvɪlɪən/
noun
a person not in the armed services or the police force.
In December some Israeli media reported the military was leaning towards flooding the tunnels with seawater pumped from the Mediterranean.
But experts had warned the option was dangerous and poses huge risks to Gaza's besieged civilians.
"It will cause severe damage to the already fragile water and sewage infrastructure that's in Gaza," the then UN humanitarian coordinator for Palestinian territories, Lynn Hastings, had warned in December.
"There's even a risk to buildings and roads collapsing because of the increased pressure and infiltration of sea water into Gaza."
On Tuesday the army said it had taken care in a way as to not "damage the area's groundwater".
"The pumping of water was only carried out in tunnel routes and locations that were suitable, matching the method of operation to each case," it said.
"This tool is one of a range of capabilities developed by the IDF and Israel's security establishment in recent years in order to operate against Hamas' underground infrastructure in the Gaza Strip."
The maze of tunnels was initially used to bypass Israel's devastating blockade on the Gaza Strip after Hamas came to power in 2007, allowing the smuggling of people, goods and weaponry in and out of Egypt.
It extended the network after the 2014 Israel-Hamas war and uses them to emerge across Gaza to launch rocket attacks on Israel.
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/2 ... as-attacks
They started to flood the tunnels according to some post western brick adnj had posted.matr1x wrote:alfa wrote:matr1x wrote:Israel is weighing what's important for its security and survival and by striking where hamas is, they can do that. They warn so civilians can leave, but hamas blocks them do they get to use human shields.
Oh, and the amount of times photojournalists lie, it's hilarious. On petapixel (a site dedicated to all things photography) the trend of unethical photojournalism is on a rise for clicks and views.
You any real proof that Israel kill so many people?
People still claiming Hamas using human shields lol. Let me make it simple for simple minds like yours. After 7 months and 34000 deaths if Hamas is still using human shields it means either
1. They have not even dented Hanmas in that they still are allowed to use shields, and that the people they killed are mostly innocent civilians or.
2 They have eliminated Hamas in great numbers like they claim but the continued killing of civilians means they are purposely targeting them
Either one could be true or both, but both cannot be false.
Israel is still using the excuse of oh Hamas has an extensive tunnel network that they haven't fully cleared. Maybe just maybe if they had flooded it like they were saying months ago instead of bombing everything we wouldn't be in the present situation.
It's clear it was never about Hamas or hostages, the world is seeing it and waking up. Even neutral Trinidad, when the govt recognizes Palestine as a state and even temples fly Palestinian flags in solidarity you know they're finally reading out Zionists
Temples flying Palestinian flags is like a synagogue flying a nazi swastika flag. Actually its the same thing. Like local hindus dumb and forget the evils Islam did to the Hindu population in India? Retards.
Flooding the tunnels could have caused alot more damage because with no civil engineering done, areas over the tunnel could collapse. Killing more civilians. I know you dotish, but that is a level below.
It's taking this long because Israel is both trying to minimize casualties and dealing with a threat that easily blends into the local population.
Tell me what did hamas do to minimize civilian casualties during October 7th?
Sooo send the brown and black peoples back to brown and black lands, and take back the white people using 0.03 brown genes to justify stealing arab land, back to Europe.matr1x wrote:There is a running theory the recent surge in anti Isreal sentiment in Europe comes from the infiltration of illegal immigrants from the Middle East corrupting European society. They are a parasite growing within western society, threatening to destroy centuries of progress.
Israel not taking on foreign powers who have no skin in the game, but just need to skin their mouth.
Conscription only matters when you in the military, when you are out, you are a regular civilian. Just like in south Korea.
That's like saying every Palestinian is a potential terrorist becuase they are indoctrinated into the faith with calls for martyrs
matr1x wrote:There is a running theory the recent surge in anti Isreal sentiment in Europe comes from the infiltration of illegal immigrants from the Middle East corrupting European society. They are a parasite growing within western society, threatening to destroy centuries of progress.
Israel not taking on foreign powers who have no skin in the game, but just need to skin their mouth.
Conscription only matters when you in the military, when you are out, you are a regular civilian. Just like in south Korea.
That's like saying every Palestinian is a potential terrorist becuase they are indoctrinated into the faith with calls for martyrs
matr1x wrote:Temples flying Palestinian flags is like a synagogue flying a nazi swastika flag. Actually its the same thing. Like local hindus dumb and forget the evils Islam did to the Hindu population in India? Retards.
bluefete wrote:matr1x wrote:Temples flying Palestinian flags is like a synagogue flying a nazi swastika flag. Actually its the same thing. Like local hindus dumb and forget the evils Islam did to the Hindu population in India? Retards.
And this folks is why we will always have wars that make no sense.
So the local Hindus were supposed to bring their grudge against Muslims, all the way to T&T and continue the fight here, right? Because that is exactly what you are writing.
You should be bloody thankful you live in T&T where people of all religions and no religion can, for the most part, peacefully co-exist. Plenty people in other countries will gladly give up religious wars in order to have what we have.
Thank God there are spaces in T&T, especially in the country side where Muslims, Christians, Hindus and others share one space for worship.
But Israel is shutting down Al_Jazeera for telling the truth. Make it make sense.
adnj wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:adnj wrote:
CAIRO, May 5 (Reuters) - The armed wing of Palestinian Islamist group Hamas claimed responsibility on Sunday for an attack on the Kerem Shalom crossing between Israel and Gaza, which Israeli and Palestinian media reports said had resulted in Israeli casualties.
Israel's military said 10 projectiles were launched from Rafah in southern Gaza towards the crossing, which it said was now closed to aid trucks going into the coastal enclave.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-ea ... 024-05-05/
Israel has been talking about attacking Rafah, despite discouragement from the international community.
Now this is going to further reduce the chance of a cease fire
matr1x wrote:bluefete wrote:matr1x wrote:Temples flying Palestinian flags is like a synagogue flying a nazi swastika flag. Actually its the same thing. Like local hindus dumb and forget the evils Islam did to the Hindu population in India? Retards.
And this folks is why we will always have wars that make no sense.
So the local Hindus were supposed to bring their grudge against Muslims, all the way to T&T and continue the fight here, right? Because that is exactly what you are writing.
You should be bloody thankful you live in T&T where people of all religions and no religion can, for the most part, peacefully co-exist. Plenty people in other countries will gladly give up religious wars in order to have what we have.
Thank God there are spaces in T&T, especially in the country side where Muslims, Christians, Hindus and others share one space for worship.
But Israel is shutting down Al_Jazeera for telling the truth. Make it make sense.
You play dumb professionally, or is it a hobby?
You know how many hindus in Trinidad when they are married into Muslim families are pressured into converting?
Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it. The memory of history and traditions are crucial for developing a society. I mean a Islamic militant group try to take over Trinidad, and we dodge a hell of a bullet. The attempt to trivialize that event show that people don't understand it.
matr1x wrote:Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:adnj wrote:
CAIRO, May 5 (Reuters) - The armed wing of Palestinian Islamist group Hamas claimed responsibility on Sunday for an attack on the Kerem Shalom crossing between Israel and Gaza, which Israeli and Palestinian media reports said had resulted in Israeli casualties.
Israel's military said 10 projectiles were launched from Rafah in southern Gaza towards the crossing, which it said was now closed to aid trucks going into the coastal enclave.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-ea ... 024-05-05/
Israel has been talking about attacking Rafah, despite discouragement from the international community.
Now this is going to further reduce the chance of a cease fire
Leopards doh change spots.
I guess the garbage smash and he buddies spewing about innocents and genocide and a ceasefire to end the conflict, turn out to be horse sheit.
But then Palestinians always breaking ceasefires. Time to put the pressure on Palestinians and hamas, Israel. Just like the boy who cry wolf, no one should believe anything from the Palestinians
bluefete wrote:matr1x wrote:bluefete wrote:matr1x wrote:Temples flying Palestinian flags is like a synagogue flying a nazi swastika flag. Actually its the same thing. Like local hindus dumb and forget the evils Islam did to the Hindu population in India? Retards.
And this folks is why we will always have wars that make no sense.
So the local Hindus were supposed to bring their grudge against Muslims, all the way to T&T and continue the fight here, right? Because that is exactly what you are writing.
You should be bloody thankful you live in T&T where people of all religions and no religion can, for the most part, peacefully co-exist. Plenty people in other countries will gladly give up religious wars in order to have what we have.
Thank God there are spaces in T&T, especially in the country side where Muslims, Christians, Hindus and others share one space for worship.
But Israel is shutting down Al_Jazeera for telling the truth. Make it make sense.
You play dumb professionally, or is it a hobby?
You know how many hindus in Trinidad when they are married into Muslim families are pressured into converting?
Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it. The memory of history and traditions are crucial for developing a society. I mean a Islamic militant group try to take over Trinidad, and we dodge a hell of a bullet. The attempt to trivialize that event show that people don't understand it.
I lived through that attempted coup. I also remember the many innocent Muslims who had nothing to do with it but were targets just because they were Muslim.
I also know Hindus who married Muslims and were not pressured into converting or chose not to convert. They are still married today. Sooooo?
I do agree, however, that knowing and understanding history is very important. That is why we get along in T&T.
Do you know about the great partition of India on the day of its independence and the foolishness that happened? Was that only the fault of the Muslims or of both sides?
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:matr1x wrote:Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:adnj wrote:
CAIRO, May 5 (Reuters) - The armed wing of Palestinian Islamist group Hamas claimed responsibility on Sunday for an attack on the Kerem Shalom crossing between Israel and Gaza, which Israeli and Palestinian media reports said had resulted in Israeli casualties.
Israel's military said 10 projectiles were launched from Rafah in southern Gaza towards the crossing, which it said was now closed to aid trucks going into the coastal enclave.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-ea ... 024-05-05/
Israel has been talking about attacking Rafah, despite discouragement from the international community.
Now this is going to further reduce the chance of a cease fire
Leopards doh change spots.
I guess the garbage smash and he buddies spewing about innocents and genocide and a ceasefire to end the conflict, turn out to be horse sheit.
But then Palestinians always breaking ceasefires. Time to put the pressure on Palestinians and hamas, Israel. Just like the boy who cry wolf, no one should believe anything from the Palestinians
There is no ceasefire
"Israel is determined to launch a ground offensive against Hamas in Rafah, Gaza’s southernmost town, a plan that has raised global alarm because of the potential for harm to more than a million Palestinian civilians sheltering there.
Even as the U.S., Egypt and Qatar pushed for a cease-fire deal they hope would avert an assault on Rafah, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu repeated on Tuesday that the military would move on the town “with or without a deal”"
https://apnews.com/article/rafah-offens ... c5e5378320
bluefete wrote:matr1x wrote:Temples flying Palestinian flags is like a synagogue flying a nazi swastika flag. Actually its the same thing. Like local hindus dumb and forget the evils Islam did to the Hindu population in India? Retards.
And this folks is why we will always have wars that make no sense.
So the local Hindus were supposed to bring their grudge against Muslims, all the way to T&T and continue the fight here, right? Because that is exactly what you are writing.
You should be bloody thankful you live in T&T where people of all religions and no religion can, for the most part, peacefully co-exist. Plenty people in other countries will gladly give up religious wars in order to have what we have.
Thank God there are spaces in T&T, especially in the country side where Muslims, Christians, Hindus and others share one space for worship.
But Israel is shutting down Al_Jazeera for telling the truth. Make it make sense.
alfa wrote:bluefete wrote:matr1x wrote:Temples flying Palestinian flags is like a synagogue flying a nazi swastika flag. Actually its the same thing. Like local hindus dumb and forget the evils Islam did to the Hindu population in India? Retards.
And this folks is why we will always have wars that make no sense.
So the local Hindus were supposed to bring their grudge against Muslims, all the way to T&T and continue the fight here, right? Because that is exactly what you are writing.
You should be bloody thankful you live in T&T where people of all religions and no religion can, for the most part, peacefully co-exist. Plenty people in other countries will gladly give up religious wars in order to have what we have.
Thank God there are spaces in T&T, especially in the country side where Muslims, Christians, Hindus and others share one space for worship.
But Israel is shutting down Al_Jazeera for telling the truth. Make it make sense.
Ignore Slims as he's just a hate filled individual who lives so far in the past it was probably a previous life before reincarnating into what he is today. Trinidad is one of the few places where there is religious freedom and people are free to express that and there has always been religious harmony. There may be more racial intolerance than religious. Matrix seems to a dying breed like Sat who somehow learned to use a computer and rants about the old time days, who forgot the injustices of the past yada yada. This is evident in that a failed coup in 1990 is brought up every 5 to 10 posts in a MIDDLE EAST thread for the sake of trying to stay relevant in a world that has long left him and his kind behind
matr1x wrote:
You know how many hindus in Trinidad when they are married into Muslim families are pressured into converting?
MaxPower wrote:matr1x wrote:
You know how many hindus in Trinidad when they are married into Muslim families are pressured into converting?
Pressured by who?
The family who feel they know everything about “tradition” and making things up and doing utterly unnecessary and costly rituals?
“Boi Narry yuh hadda do this, and “they” say you have to do this, at this time, at this place”
People need to start respecting the decisions of those who are getting married and let only the man and woman decide what is best. Advice is great minus the pressure.
It have too many mammy and daddy, aunt, uncle, gran mother father this that ajee and aja pushing themselves up in the people life.
A Hindu mate of mine recently married a Muslim ting…the family start to push up and give them a long ass list of things to do and buy. He and wife stood together and run dey MC…they living happy, comfortable and family stress free.
alfa wrote:Guys ignore the tuner troll (man take the title from Max) and stick to the topic at hand. This incel has time
matr1x wrote:bluefete wrote:matr1x wrote:bluefete wrote:matr1x wrote:Temples flying Palestinian flags is like a synagogue flying a nazi swastika flag. Actually its the same thing. Like local hindus dumb and forget the evils Islam did to the Hindu population in India? Retards.
And this folks is why we will always have wars that make no sense.
So the local Hindus were supposed to bring their grudge against Muslims, all the way to T&T and continue the fight here, right? Because that is exactly what you are writing.
You should be bloody thankful you live in T&T where people of all religions and no religion can, for the most part, peacefully co-exist. Plenty people in other countries will gladly give up religious wars in order to have what we have.
Thank God there are spaces in T&T, especially in the country side where Muslims, Christians, Hindus and others share one space for worship.
But Israel is shutting down Al_Jazeera for telling the truth. Make it make sense.
You play dumb professionally, or is it a hobby?
You know how many hindus in Trinidad when they are married into Muslim families are pressured into converting?
Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it. The memory of history and traditions are crucial for developing a society. I mean a Islamic militant group try to take over Trinidad, and we dodge a hell of a bullet. The attempt to trivialize that event show that people don't understand it.
I lived through that attempted coup. I also remember the many innocent Muslims who had nothing to do with it but were targets just because they were Muslim.
I also know Hindus who married Muslims and were not pressured into converting or chose not to convert. They are still married today. Sooooo?
I do agree, however, that knowing and understanding history is very important. That is why we get along in T&T.
Do you know about the great partition of India on the day of its independence and the foolishness that happened? Was that only the fault of the Muslims or of both sides?
Muslims targeted? Gonna call that one a lie.
Also, I am sure there those who aren't pressured. 2% counts, right?
What you are doing is gaslighting. And stuffing with imaginary equivalent
matr1x wrote:I am pretty sure you are lying about your friend story.
bluefete wrote:matr1x wrote:bluefete wrote:matr1x wrote:bluefete wrote:matr1x wrote:Temples flying Palestinian flags is like a synagogue flying a nazi swastika flag. Actually its the same thing. Like local hindus dumb and forget the evils Islam did to the Hindu population in India? Retards.
And this folks is why we will always have wars that make no sense.
So the local Hindus were supposed to bring their grudge against Muslims, all the way to T&T and continue the fight here, right? Because that is exactly what you are writing.
You should be bloody thankful you live in T&T where people of all religions and no religion can, for the most part, peacefully co-exist. Plenty people in other countries will gladly give up religious wars in order to have what we have.
Thank God there are spaces in T&T, especially in the country side where Muslims, Christians, Hindus and others share one space for worship.
But Israel is shutting down Al_Jazeera for telling the truth. Make it make sense.
You play dumb professionally, or is it a hobby?
You know how many hindus in Trinidad when they are married into Muslim families are pressured into converting?
Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it. The memory of history and traditions are crucial for developing a society. I mean a Islamic militant group try to take over Trinidad, and we dodge a hell of a bullet. The attempt to trivialize that event show that people don't understand it.
I lived through that attempted coup. I also remember the many innocent Muslims who had nothing to do with it but were targets just because they were Muslim.
I also know Hindus who married Muslims and were not pressured into converting or chose not to convert. They are still married today. Sooooo?
I do agree, however, that knowing and understanding history is very important. That is why we get along in T&T.
Do you know about the great partition of India on the day of its independence and the foolishness that happened? Was that only the fault of the Muslims or of both sides?
Muslims targeted? Gonna call that one a lie.
Also, I am sure there those who aren't pressured. 2% counts, right?
What you are doing is gaslighting. And stuffing with imaginary equivalent
Do you know what I mean by targetted? Wait, were you around for the 1990 coup? If you were not, then you are out of line to call me a liar. Out of line, little boy. If you cannot handle the truth, like so many others, too bad.
You know what is sad Many, many years ago, a young lady of the Hindu faith told me, that her parents would absolutely disown her if she fell in love with someone who did not look like her. They would kick her out and never take her back in.
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