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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby paid_influencer » February 6th, 2020, 9:22 pm

Dohplaydat wrote:
So does this mean the growth is exponential as you'd expect in an outbreaks? The number of tests kits is limiting us from viewing the actual scale of it's spread. But what can we infer?


you need to infer what the graph is not telling you, which is only God alone know how many cases there are. :drinking:

at least 30,000 tho :drinking:

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby Devourment » February 6th, 2020, 9:23 pm

Dohplaydat wrote:
Devourment wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:it will be at 31,000 tonight

Screenshot 2020-02-06 at 7.01.28 PM.jpg

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Source: https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps ... 7b48e9ecf6


That linear increase is in fact due to the same number of tests being carried out daily. Not a conspiracy theory just reality.

And yes there are always more cases than we can test for, that's not abnormal.


So does this mean the growth is exponential as you'd expect in an outbreaks? The number of tests kits is limiting us from viewing the actual scale of it's spread. But what can we infer?



The situation is as bad as many feared, in China at least. I cannot say what's happening on the outside. It's impressive how well contained it has been so far, but also it's inevitable for it to become a world wide epidemic at this point.

I wouldn't worry yet, if it ends up here soon it'll be pure bad luck, but also doubt it will become an epidemic here as awareness is high.

I'd wait for a western city outbreak before I panic. So far so good.

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby Devourment » February 6th, 2020, 9:25 pm

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Dohplaydat wrote:
So does this mean the growth is exponential as you'd expect in an outbreaks? The number of tests kits is limiting us from viewing the actual scale of it's spread. But what can we infer?


you need to infer what the graph is not telling you, which is only God alone know how many cases there are. :drinking:

at least 30,000 tho :drinking:


A graph that increases linearly with the production of test kits showing almost positive results in all tests is a scary thing.

Test kit production is supposed to be ramping up soon so let's see how that goes.

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby pugboy » February 6th, 2020, 9:28 pm

Tha is exactly the thing, seems as fast as they test they getting more positives.

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby paid_influencer » February 6th, 2020, 9:35 pm

Everybody ignores the recovery numbers though. I think they are very important. It's 637 dead to 1531 recovered right now. The ratio moved from 1:1 death to recovery to almost 1:3, which seems p. good.

But, you have to take into consideration Hubei is about 2 weeks ahead in terms of the virus spread, and it's still closer to 1:1 in that area. Other areas have newer cases and looking at Hubei figures is like looking 2-weeks into the future for them.

John Hopkins tracker (constantly updated):
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps ... 7b48e9ecf6

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby Gladiator » February 6th, 2020, 9:50 pm

paid_influencer wrote:Everybody ignores the recovery numbers though. I think they are very important. It's 637 dead to 1531 recovered right now. The ratio moved from 1:1 death to recovery to almost 1:3, which seems p. good.

But, you have to take into consideration Hubei is about 2 weeks ahead in terms of the virus spread, and it's still closer to 1:1 in that area. Other areas have newer cases and looking at Hubei figures is like looking 2-weeks into the future for them.

John Hopkins tracker (constantly updated):
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps ... 7b48e9ecf6


^^That tracker is always late and behind...

This one is on the ball... https://wuflu.live/

This one has the numbers before anyone else... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template: ... virus_data

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby MaxPower » February 6th, 2020, 11:28 pm

Cant wait for Carnival.

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby screwbash » February 7th, 2020, 5:23 am

anything from trvor sayers on how to cure the corona virus ? he have cure for everything. or is blacks immune to the virus cause seeing no stats for africa.

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby hydroep » February 7th, 2020, 6:22 am

Zebapique...:|

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby Chimera » February 7th, 2020, 7:32 am

https://www.thatsmags.com/china/post/30 ... oronavirus


On Monday, the venue that houses Guangzhou’s Canton Fair, also referred to as China Import and Export Fair, announced that all fairs and festivals will be suspended indefinitely as the Pazhou-based complex looks to prevent the spread of the novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV).

In an official WeChat post by the venue, provincial government documents were shared that show the venue’s halt on public gatherings and events. The announcement additionally notes that the complex will keep in close contact with authorities and update everyone as soon as normal operations are resumed.

Although not explicitly stated in the post, Canton Fair 2020 Spring, which was scheduled to begin on April 15, could potentially be cancelled if activities do not resume in time.

On the fair’s official website, pre-registration is still up and running, as of February 5. Although, we’d imagine that even if the fair does go ahead as planned, attendance would likely be impacted by the coronavirus outbreak.

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The last session of the Canton Fair, held from October 15, 2019 to November 4, 2019, brought in over 186,000 overseas buyers and nearly USD30 billion in business turnover, according to their official website.

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby Ben_spanna » February 7th, 2020, 7:53 am

Imagine being a passenger on one of the 3 cruise ships that are quarantined, and you confined to your small room with no window for 2 weeks.... and as the days go by more and more people are tested positive for it..... then again what else are the authorities do to.............. :(

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » February 7th, 2020, 9:34 am

Ben_spanna wrote:Imagine being a passenger on one of the 3 cruise ships that are quarantined, and you confined to your small room with no window for 2 weeks.... and as the days go by more and more people are tested positive for it..... then again what else are the authorities do to.............. :(

Knowing you paid a lot of money for that room

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby Ben_spanna » February 7th, 2020, 9:44 am

well its not the price of the room Duane, but as time goes by I wouldnt be surprised if some tried jumping over the balcony into the ocean.. its like youre in a half comfy jail.
Being confined to any space and completely limited is frustrating regardless of what you paid or if you got it for free :lol:

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby Chimera » February 7th, 2020, 10:10 am

about 20 of us paid for a cruise carnival week on MSC and we want to get out of it (roughly 2500 usd per person)

check msc response

MSC CRUISES TAKES ADDITIONAL PRECAUTIONARY PUBLIC HEALTH MEASURES ON ALL SHIPS GLOBALLY
1/31/2020
Geneva, Switzerland, January 31, 2020 – In light of the coronavirus outbreak in China, MSC Cruises is immediately taking further precautionary measures for the health and well-being of its guests and crew on all of its global fleet.


MSC Cruises has undertaken a series of actions since January 24, and due to the latest coronavirus developments, today implemented additional public health measures across its fleet. While there are no cases of coronavirus on board any of MSC Cruises’ ships these measures are additional steps to secure the health and well-being of all guests and crew.



Guests from all nationalities are required to fill out a pre-embarkation questionnaire to ensure no-one boards their ship who has traveled from mainland China or visited mainland China in the past 30 days. Anyone who has traveled from mainland China or visited mainland China in the past 30 days will be denied access to the ship;


Mandatory non-touch thermal scans conducted for all guests and crew prior to embarkation for every cruise operated by the company anywhere in the world, and persons with signs or symptoms of illness such as fever (≥38 C°/100.4 F°) or feverishness, chills, cough or difficulty breathing will be denied embarkation;


Elevated deep-sanitation on every ship in the line’s entire fleet;

Guests who may have fever symptoms will be isolated in their cabin and the same measure applies for their close contacts, including guests staying in the same cabin and family members, as well as any crew member who may have served these guests.


These measures follow previous actions that were taken last week. Guests and crew who traveled last week from mainland China were already screened for symptoms upon embarkation and were requested to report any symptoms of illness to the onboard medical center.


Since the outbreak of the coronavirus in China, MSC Cruises has been closely monitoring the public health and safety situation in each of the regions its ships sail. The company has been consulting with international and local health authorities to follow their advice and recommendations.

MSC CRUISES
Final Payment, Cancellation and Penalties:
Final payment is due 90 days prior to departure.

All cancellations and/or requests for refund must be submitted in writing.



CANCELLATION POLICY:

CRUISES 14 NIGHTS AND LESS:

* Cancel 89−61 days prior to departure: Deposit Non−Refundable

* Cancel 60−46 days prior to departure: 50% of the total fare

* Cancel 45−16 days prior to departure: 75% of the total fare

* Cancel 15−00 days prior to departure: 100% Penalty

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby Coppershot » February 7th, 2020, 6:49 pm

CNN click bait title ridiculous as usual

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby MaxPower » February 7th, 2020, 6:52 pm

Praying for all those Chinese.

Dunno why they cannot allow them to travel here, we have loads of tax payers money to take care of them.

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby paid_influencer » February 7th, 2020, 7:04 pm

Phone Surgeon wrote:about 20 of us paid for a cruise carnival week on MSC and we want to get out of it (roughly 2500 usd per person)

check msc response


on the bright side, at least you not here for carnival. You ducking plenty drunk driving, crime, hooliganism, etc.

anything like travel insurance locally?

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby pugboy » February 7th, 2020, 8:07 pm

Gone to 700+ deaths now

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby paid_influencer » February 7th, 2020, 8:17 pm

new suggestions the animal that passed the coronavirus was not a bat, but a pangolin.



looks like some common trini wildmeat. :drinking:

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby Chimera » February 7th, 2020, 8:35 pm

paid_influencer wrote:
Phone Surgeon wrote:about 20 of us paid for a cruise carnival week on MSC and we want to get out of it (roughly 2500 usd per person)

check msc response


on the bright side, at least you not here for carnival. You ducking plenty drunk driving, crime, hooliganism, etc.

anything like travel insurance locally?
I not going. Rather lose the money than risk that flabbergastery.

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby Chimera » February 7th, 2020, 8:42 pm

Imagine I get a small fever on a boat and get confined inside my room lol. firetruck that

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby streetbeastINC. » February 8th, 2020, 3:26 am

Be more concerned if the virus has been here all along, or we have our own unique virus, from our own nasty hunting wild meat practices.....see epidemiological data locally over past 3 years...

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby pugboy » February 8th, 2020, 5:58 am

our hunting practices dont usually involve keeping animals alive very long and cooking curry/stew surely kills all pathogens given the long high temps

if anything more likely to get the leprosy from handling tattoo

streetbeastINC. wrote:Be more concerned if the virus has been here all along, or we have our own unique virus, from our own nasty hunting wild meat practices.....see epidemiological data locally over past 3 years...

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby Redman » February 8th, 2020, 7:17 am

pugboy wrote:Gone to 700+ deaths now


And the recoveries passed 2300
Still no cases in South America,Central America ...and Africa.

Despite there being a decent amount of traffic between those spots and China.

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby Gladiator » February 8th, 2020, 7:56 am

Those places maybe don't have the means to test for it yet.

Redman wrote:
pugboy wrote:Gone to 700+ deaths now


And the recoveries passed 2300
Still no cases in South America,Central America ...and Africa.

Despite there being a decent amount of traffic between those spots and China.

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby pugboy » February 8th, 2020, 8:06 am

that's the thing
are the local authorities testing any bad cases of influenza admitted for coronavirus ?
when would be the tipping point to start doing that ?
when there are a few flu deaths more than normal ?

Gladiator wrote:Those places maybe don't have the means to test for it yet.

Redman wrote:
pugboy wrote:Gone to 700+ deaths now


And the recoveries passed 2300
Still no cases in South America,Central America ...and Africa.

Despite there being a decent amount of traffic between those spots and China.

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby gastly369 » February 8th, 2020, 10:04 am

This country ain't prepared for chit
Backwards tribal Island

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby streetbeastINC. » February 8th, 2020, 12:45 pm

pugboy wrote:our hunting practices dont usually involve keeping animals alive very long and cooking curry/stew surely kills all pathogens given the long high temps

if anything more likely to get the leprosy from handling tattoo

streetbeastINC. wrote:Be more concerned if the virus has been here all along, or we have our own unique virus, from our own nasty hunting wild meat practices.....see epidemiological data locally over past 3 years...


You are wrong .

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby pugboy » February 8th, 2020, 1:12 pm

ok

streetbeastINC. wrote:
pugboy wrote:our hunting practices dont usually involve keeping animals alive very long and cooking curry/stew surely kills all pathogens given the long high temps

if anything more likely to get the leprosy from handling tattoo

streetbeastINC. wrote:Be more concerned if the virus has been here all along, or we have our own unique virus, from our own nasty hunting wild meat practices.....see epidemiological data locally over past 3 years...


You are wrong .

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