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Re: Food prices in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby maj. tom » July 12th, 2023, 10:34 am

After drop in cost of flour ...

PM questions why bread, doubles prices aren’t going down

https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/pm-questions-why-bread-doubles-prices-arent-going-down-6.2.1750609.f73837a9e3

While some bakeries, roti shops and doubles vendors are unwilling to lower their food prices after three major flour producers cut the cost of flour, Prime Minister Dr Keith Rowley is questioning their reasoning.

Responding to a Guardian Media article where business owners said the decrease was not enough to allow them to drop the prices of bread, pastries and Indo-Trinidadian delicacies, Rowley asked, “So a higher flour price was enough to see an instant rise in the price of bread but a lower flour price is not enough to lower the price of doubles and bread?”

Rowley posted this question on his Facebook timeline with a photograph of the article. There were some mixed reviews. Some agreed with his concern, while others expressed that Government had no price control. One commenter questioned why fuel prices did not decrease when oil prices declined.

Flour producers increased their prices a year ago as freight costs soared during the COVID-19 pandemic, and the availability of wheat became a concern as the Russia/Ukraine war raged on. It led to restaurants and eateries increasing their prices. In the article, Puff ‘N Stuff owner Gregory Laing explained that bakeries had to pay more for fuel, butter, cooking oil, packaging, and repairs and maintenance services. Laing said the price decreases were not significant enough to rival the 40-65 per cent increase in raw material costs bakeries endured over the last three years. Doubles vendors in Debe and Penal had similar responses.

But speaking to Guardian Media yesterday, President of the Greater San Fernando Area Chamber of Commerce Kiran Singh said producers lowering flour prices was a step in the right direction as it should benefit consumers.

However, Singh said they have not yet seen the new prices on the supermarket shelves. He said with the pandemic over, there are significant decreases in shipping costs. Therefore, Singh said he expected the prices of all imports to decrease. He empathised with food businesses, saying that the chamber expected a larger decrease in the retail price of flour.

Meanwhile, the cost of cooking oil remains high.

“We were expecting to see a general decrease in everything that we import because if the shipping cost went back down to $3000-$5000 average on a container when it was close to $15,000 some time ago, we should automatically see a decrease in food items, hardware and everything we import, even vehicles. We are seeing the opposite where prices have remained at the higher plateau, and we are not seeing a reduction in the prices. It is very worrying for the consumer,” Singh said.

As for bakeries and doubles vendors reducing prices, Singh said while people believe businesses should do so, other ingredients besides flour recently increased.

He said the Ministry of Trade and Industry should meet with producers, importers and business organisations to discuss why there is no reduction in food items, given lower shipping costs.


That last part. I said before that unless there is government regulation on basic food items, the free market capitalism reigns and then eventually spins out of control with greedflation and the majority of consumers lose out. It has happened and been happening in every country since Covid ended.

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Re: Food prices in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby death365 » July 12th, 2023, 12:03 pm

even the good old Doc agree with meh

we need $5 doubles and pies again!!!


maj. tom wrote:
After drop in cost of flour ...

PM questions why bread, doubles prices aren’t going down

https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/pm-questions-why-bread-doubles-prices-arent-going-down-6.2.1750609.f73837a9e3

While some bakeries, roti shops and doubles vendors are unwilling to lower their food prices after three major flour producers cut the cost of flour, Prime Minister Dr Keith Rowley is questioning their reasoning.

Responding to a Guardian Media article where business owners said the decrease was not enough to allow them to drop the prices of bread, pastries and Indo-Trinidadian delicacies, Rowley asked, “So a higher flour price was enough to see an instant rise in the price of bread but a lower flour price is not enough to lower the price of doubles and bread?”

Rowley posted this question on his Facebook timeline with a photograph of the article. There were some mixed reviews. Some agreed with his concern, while others expressed that Government had no price control. One commenter questioned why fuel prices did not decrease when oil prices declined.

Flour producers increased their prices a year ago as freight costs soared during the COVID-19 pandemic, and the availability of wheat became a concern as the Russia/Ukraine war raged on. It led to restaurants and eateries increasing their prices. In the article, Puff ‘N Stuff owner Gregory Laing explained that bakeries had to pay more for fuel, butter, cooking oil, packaging, and repairs and maintenance services. Laing said the price decreases were not significant enough to rival the 40-65 per cent increase in raw material costs bakeries endured over the last three years. Doubles vendors in Debe and Penal had similar responses.

But speaking to Guardian Media yesterday, President of the Greater San Fernando Area Chamber of Commerce Kiran Singh said producers lowering flour prices was a step in the right direction as it should benefit consumers.

However, Singh said they have not yet seen the new prices on the supermarket shelves. He said with the pandemic over, there are significant decreases in shipping costs. Therefore, Singh said he expected the prices of all imports to decrease. He empathised with food businesses, saying that the chamber expected a larger decrease in the retail price of flour.

Meanwhile, the cost of cooking oil remains high.

“We were expecting to see a general decrease in everything that we import because if the shipping cost went back down to $3000-$5000 average on a container when it was close to $15,000 some time ago, we should automatically see a decrease in food items, hardware and everything we import, even vehicles. We are seeing the opposite where prices have remained at the higher plateau, and we are not seeing a reduction in the prices. It is very worrying for the consumer,” Singh said.

As for bakeries and doubles vendors reducing prices, Singh said while people believe businesses should do so, other ingredients besides flour recently increased.

He said the Ministry of Trade and Industry should meet with producers, importers and business organisations to discuss why there is no reduction in food items, given lower shipping costs.


That last part. I said before that unless there is government regulation on basic food items, the free market capitalism reigns and then eventually spins out of control with greedflation and the majority of consumers lose out. It has happened and been happening in every country since Covid ended.

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Re: Food prices in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby MaxPower » July 12th, 2023, 12:07 pm

death365 wrote:so yuh friendly neighborhood doubl;es/pie man price going down too $5 doubles back soon then ?


$5 wey

Dem doubles ppl only care about themselves and always looking for every lil ting to raise their prices.

People should stop buying doubles, see how fast they lower the price.

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Re: Food prices in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby death365 » July 12th, 2023, 12:15 pm

like yuh 4get that during covid and d whole "no street food" thing, doubles man was illegally running double deliveries to yuh house. Trini addicted to that kinda street food




MaxPower wrote:
death365 wrote:so yuh friendly neighborhood doubl;es/pie man price going down too $5 doubles back soon then ?


$5 wey

Dem doubles ppl only care about themselves and always looking for every lil ting to raise their prices.

People should stop buying doubles, see how fast they lower the price.

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Re: Food prices in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby viedcht » July 12th, 2023, 2:03 pm

MaxPower wrote:
death365 wrote:so yuh friendly neighborhood doubl;es/pie man price going down too $5 doubles back soon then ?


$5 wey

Dem doubles ppl only care about themselves and always looking for every lil ting to raise their prices.

People should stop buying doubles, see how fast they lower the price.
Buh look I stop buying and dem eh lower nathn

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Re: Food prices in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby DMan7 » July 12th, 2023, 3:46 pm

Flour prices could reduce to 99% and the grocery prices would be the same, same for street food that uses flour too. This also goes for other food products. This is T&T thing does only raise not fall.

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Re: Food prices in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby pugboy » July 12th, 2023, 3:47 pm

doubles is the national dish yo
doh be bad talking them so

ent first ting allyuh does ask foreigners is if they had doubles?

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Re: Food prices in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby paid_influencer » July 12th, 2023, 5:31 pm

opposite Affan's Bakery have a van that does sell for $5 still

and not just doubles- you getting saheena, kachorie, aloo pie, even pholourie sometimes. all item $5. hot too. have to use a napkin to hold it most of the time

all kinda sauces. roast pepper, cucumber, sweet sauce, coconut chutney

and they have bread and channa. bread and chow mein too. coffee. tea. if you ask they will put chow mein in your aloo pie they will do it, plenty people does buy it so.

plenty parking by that stretch (opposite Affans off Sutton Street) and space to line up etc.

idk why people crying down the doubles man. It have plenty of them around. And if you want $5 doubles just go and buy it from the doubles man that selling it for $5. If them other vendor feel their doubles so much better and you agree with them go ahead spend more, is your money and is a free country. idk what rowley scene is. I only hearing yang yang yang yang yang from him

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Re: Food prices in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby alfa » July 12th, 2023, 5:49 pm

Penal it still is and was always $5 for doubles even when the price of flour raised.

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Re: Food prices in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby MaxPower » July 12th, 2023, 6:04 pm

pugboy wrote:doubles is the national dish yo
doh be bad talking them so

ent first ting allyuh does ask foreigners is if they had doubles?


Nope,

The first thing is i ask if they feel safe. I also apologize for the littering and crime rate.

I deter them from doubles because the standard has dropped nationwide. A roti shop i may consider.

Home-cooked fireside FTW.

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Re: Food prices in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby pugboy » July 12th, 2023, 7:19 pm

it’s a pseudo racist jab by him at the doubles vendors

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Re: Food prices in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby paid_influencer » July 12th, 2023, 8:52 pm

pugboy wrote:it’s a pseudo racist jab by him at the doubles vendors


from ever since they using doubles man as a boblee to represent greedy indian. now they move ahead to openly saying "a certain race" going to "get gun" to shoot another another race.

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Re: Food prices in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby 88sins » July 23rd, 2023, 3:30 pm

MaxPower wrote:
pugboy wrote:doubles is the national dish yo
doh be bad talking them so

ent first ting allyuh does ask foreigners is if they had doubles?


Nope,

The first thing is i ask if they feel safe. I also apologize for the littering and crime rate.



And yet, miraculously, T&T 10 million times why they still safer here than Venezuela, and ironically that is precisely why tourists arrive here instead of choosing to go there

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Re: Food prices in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby maj. tom » July 24th, 2023, 9:14 am

Well look more stress.

India’s ban on rice exports raises fear of global food price rises

India has banned non-basmati white rice exports to curb domestic inflation, raising fears of further increases in global food prices just days after wheat and corn prices were sent climbing by Russia’s termination of a key grain deal.

The immediate ban, introduced after heavy rains hit domestic crops, follows the failure of a 20% duty on international exports introduced in September to curb foreign demand, which has soared after extreme climate conditions hit production in countries.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/jul/21/india-ban-on-rice-exports-raises-fear-of-global-food-price-rises

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Re: Food prices in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby snatman » July 24th, 2023, 9:44 am

It was nice while it lasted.
Russia’s failure to extend the Black Sea Grain Deal has pushed corn and wheat prices higher.

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Re: Food prices in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby pugboy » July 24th, 2023, 10:00 am

tru valu have president butter $4 less 200g block

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Whaaaaat...Potatoe prices increase by 100%

Postby triniringo » August 24th, 2023, 9:41 am

Potatoes are now $4 per lbs

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Re: Whaaaaat...Potatoe prices increase by 100%

Postby alfa » August 24th, 2023, 9:49 am

triniringo wrote:Potatoes are now $4 per lbs

What was it before? Doesn't sound too bad. I usually pick up a bag in the grocery when I need. Never looked at the weight vs price to know though

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Re: Whaaaaat...Potatoe prices increase by 100%

Postby adnj » August 24th, 2023, 9:50 am

......

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Re: Food prices in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby pugboy » August 28th, 2023, 3:38 pm

massy orange grove
2 for 1 big block butter emerald irish brand $62

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Re: Food prices in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby eliteauto » August 28th, 2023, 3:47 pm

pugboy wrote:massy orange grove
2 for 1 big block butter emerald irish brand $62


Unsalted?

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Re: Food prices in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby pugboy » August 28th, 2023, 4:06 pm

both

eliteauto wrote:
pugboy wrote:massy orange grove
2 for 1 big block butter emerald irish brand $62


Unsalted?

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Re: Whaaaaat...Potatoe prices increase by 100%

Postby bluefete » August 28th, 2023, 8:56 pm

triniringo wrote:Potatoes are now $4 per lbs


Where were you buying potatoes before?

$7.00 / lb in Tunapuna market on Sunday. I just watch it and smile and walk away.

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Re: Food prices in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby bluefete » August 28th, 2023, 8:56 pm

pugboy wrote:massy orange grove
2 for 1 big block butter emerald irish brand $62


Good deal. That is $31. for one.

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Re: Whaaaaat...Potatoe prices increase by 100%

Postby eliteauto » August 28th, 2023, 9:07 pm

bluefete wrote:
triniringo wrote:Potatoes are now $4 per lbs


Where were you buying potatoes before?

$7.00 / lb in Tunapuna market on Sunday. I just watch it and smile and walk away.


Yup walked the whole of 'puna market Sunday everyone was at $7, onion was between $7 and $8 I was like WTF

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Re: Food prices in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby pugboy » August 28th, 2023, 9:19 pm

i see persads advertising $20 for 4lb

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Re: Food prices in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby Rovin » August 29th, 2023, 6:59 pm

not a fan of this ice cream brand since imo it full of air, flavor weak & unnatural tasting but this seems like a decent value .... https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=70 ... 8920318175

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Re: Food prices in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby DMan7 » August 29th, 2023, 7:07 pm

Creamery is the new Flavorite. Frothy light ice cream that is cheap but very little quality or decent taste. WOFT

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Re: Food prices in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby pugboy » August 29th, 2023, 8:22 pm

those are the cheapest ice cream to make, plenty emulsified palm oil and xanthan gum
whipped up as said

it’s good for the eggless folks tho

they giving blue bunny competition

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Re: Food prices in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby Rovin » August 30th, 2023, 3:40 pm

price club say ppl buy out all their creamery & they will get back stocks by tomorrow :lol:

i only tried blue bunny 1st time a few wks ago, it was arite - way better than creamery but nestles prolly is d worst ...

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