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Postby Rovin » March 16th, 2022, 11:48 am

pugboy wrote:as rowlee himself said, gg talked a good talk but the gg supporters are a minority

garlic sauce alone wont win an election going up against ketchup and mustard diehards


fully agree here

alot of talkers\"gg supporters" but when election called ppl still gonna do red n yellow, dise d harsh reality , 1986 not gonna happen again & here is not tobago

also unc voters might quicker give GG some of there votes but red crew is 4ever til ah dead me em bisnis so u always have d split vote to consider ....

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Postby pugboy » March 16th, 2022, 11:49 am

for sure, ketchup crew done see gg as anti pnm

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Postby rollingstock » March 16th, 2022, 3:41 pm

zoom rader wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
j.o.e wrote:GG was a failure as commissioner ….. all fluff and PR. The quicker we realize that the better for T&T
Tony Gray was the last good commissioner Trinidad had.


The fast bowler??
Sorry my error

Tony May


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Postby matix » March 16th, 2022, 8:13 pm

Phone Surgeon wrote:
j.o.e wrote:GG was a failure as commissioner ….. all fluff and PR. The quicker we realize that the better for T&T
GG was the best commissioner we ever had. The majority of the legit business community support him.


I agree

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Postby hover11 » March 16th, 2022, 8:17 pm

The_Honourable wrote:Gary is correct that there are those within the PNM that feel he was being more popular that the PM and would eventually run against him. By making it public that he is eyeing Rowley's seat, he give them a head start to ensure that PNM fully secures that seat. Unless he is bluffing.

Gary's brand may be able to pull off a minor win here and there but just like COP with Dookeran and ILP with Warner, it will just be 15 minutes of fame. Generally speaking, we are not ready for a third party. Gary and his new party would not win an election.

What he CAN do is to challenge Kamla for UNC leadership. There is a high chance he can win there. Yes he bad talk UNC up until recently but this is politics, many persons who were part of a party bad talk it and eventually go back. Since Griffith has a stronger brand than Kamla, all he have to do is convince the unc grassroots which he can easily do. If he does win, UNC can be easily reinvigorated and be more formidable in 2025 generals.
Well said , politics has a morality of its own, how many times have we seen the members crossing sides

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Postby j.o.e » March 17th, 2022, 11:31 am

Trinis love talk ….. the fact that politicians, current acting Commissioner and Gary touting crime statistics during covid and lockdowns proves he is a sheithound like the rest of them. Gary leaving didn’t increase crime …. Covid subsiding did.
Covid was the best commissioner …… while Gary said a lot of good things the performance wasn’t there. The fact that no meaningful change remains after he left shows he’s bang average.
I’m not defending Rowley inserting himself in the process btw.
Gary so full of himself and lacks the ability to have mature discourse he would be disgusting with the clout of political office.

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Postby pugboy » March 17th, 2022, 3:34 pm

the curfew was the best commissioner

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Postby hover11 » March 18th, 2022, 7:20 am

Gary on the radio.....mc Donald wants Gary to make a police report on PM's alledged misconduct to start the investigation, however when email gate occurred there was no report and the police moved at break neck speed to go to the lengths of contacting Google. He said he is not submitting any report

He has a point.

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Postby pugboy » March 18th, 2022, 7:33 am

this is the same gg who was asking the public to make reports of ful bobol bribes in order to investigate them corrupt cops there ?

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Postby Redman » March 18th, 2022, 7:40 am

hover11 wrote:Gary on the radio.....mc Donald wants Gary to make a police report on PM's alledged misconduct to start the investigation, however when email gate occurred there was no report and the police moved at break neck speed to go to the lengths of contacting Google. He said he is not submitting any report

He has a point.


No he doesn't.

He refusing to make a report, despite being advised that it is required.

Ent we supposed to say something when we see something?

Gary continues to box himself into ignominy

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Postby hover11 » March 18th, 2022, 7:47 am

Redman wrote:
hover11 wrote:Gary on the radio.....mc Donald wants Gary to make a police report on PM's alledged misconduct to start the investigation, however when email gate occurred there was no report and the police moved at break neck speed to go to the lengths of contacting Google. He said he is not submitting any report

He has a point.


No he doesn't.

He refusing to make a report, despite being advised that it is required.

Ent we supposed to say something when we see something?

Gary continues to box himself into ignominy
Red,

This is one of the rare moments I can agree with Gary. What is he to make a report on to say, he was not present. President house is not a parlor where anyone can simply walk in, why is the PM and the chairman meeting there , only ppl who can make a report are the ones who were there and they will not incriminate themselves

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Postby Redman » March 18th, 2022, 9:38 am

So if he wasnt there, doesnt have information, or witnesses how does he arrive at the allegation reaching the point of requiring criminal investigation?

He is admitting that what he wants is the TTPS to investigate based on his say so...again at a point in time of his convenience.

Gary playing himself out-regardless of who met and what happened, there is a difference between KNOW and think we know.

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Postby De Dragon » March 18th, 2022, 12:40 pm

Redman wrote:So if he wasnt there, doesnt have information, or witnesses how does he arrive at the allegation reaching the point of requiring criminal investigation?

He is admitting that what he wants is the TTPS to investigate based on his say so...again at a point in time of his convenience.

Gary playing himself out-regardless of who met and what happened, there is a difference between KNOW and think we know.

Expected LFD RFD PNM answer :roll:
By your logic, if someone admits to wrongdoing in the full glare of public media, and the TTPS know about it, then there is no need to investigate once someone doesn't report it to said TTPS :?
Gary is merely asking Ol' McD to do his job, which based on his asinine answer, he seems to have no intention of doing.

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Postby Mmoney607 » March 18th, 2022, 11:06 pm

Winford James ask how Rowley know Gary was top of the list

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Postby sMASH » March 19th, 2022, 12:27 am

De Dragon wrote:
Redman wrote:So if he wasnt there, doesnt have information, or witnesses how does he arrive at the allegation reaching the point of requiring criminal investigation?

He is admitting that what he wants is the TTPS to investigate based on his say so...again at a point in time of his convenience.

Gary playing himself out-regardless of who met and what happened, there is a difference between KNOW and think we know.

Expected LFD RFD PNM answer :roll:
By your logic, if someone admits to wrongdoing in the full glare of public media, and the TTPS know about it, then there is no need to investigate once someone doesn't report it to said TTPS :?
Gary is merely asking Ol' McD to do his job, which based on his asinine answer, he seems to have no intention of doing.
If only ttps had set up a road block/police exercise in the president house when Rowley and Bliss was there, they might have been able to detect the interference and miscarriage of the basic constitutional procedure. Cause police can only act in the cases of a person making an official report or first hand information in a road exercise

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Postby timelapse » March 19th, 2022, 2:24 am

sMASH wrote:
De Dragon wrote:
Redman wrote:So if he wasnt there, doesnt have information, or witnesses how does he arrive at the allegation reaching the point of requiring criminal investigation?

He is admitting that what he wants is the TTPS to investigate based on his say so...again at a point in time of his convenience.

Gary playing himself out-regardless of who met and what happened, there is a difference between KNOW and think we know.

Expected LFD RFD PNM answer :roll:
By your logic, if someone admits to wrongdoing in the full glare of public media, and the TTPS know about it, then there is no need to investigate once someone doesn't report it to said TTPS :?
Gary is merely asking Ol' McD to do his job, which based on his asinine answer, he seems to have no intention of doing.
If only ttps had set up a road block/police exercise in the president house when Rowley and Bliss was there, they might have been able to detect the interference and miscarriage of the basic constitutional procedure. Cause police can only act in the cases of a person making an official report or first hand information in a road exercise
Or when people discover green plant like substances in Kyamalah house.They was quick to investigate that

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Postby Redman » March 19th, 2022, 9:04 am

Start an investigation on what?
expecting there to be a confession from the 2 people that would lose their office on the basis of that confession.

Allyuh think either of them kept records?

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Postby hover11 » March 19th, 2022, 9:11 am

Redman wrote:Start an investigation on what?
expecting there to be a confession from the 2 people that would lose their office on the basis of that confession.

Allyuh think either of them kept records?
Redman,

You don't see any hints of misbehaviour in public office at the very least on the PM'S part? It is blatant yet everyone is normal and awaiting the next distraction , if it was kamla ppl out protesting and up on arms.

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Postby Redman » March 19th, 2022, 9:47 am

hover11 wrote:
Redman wrote:Start an investigation on what?
expecting there to be a confession from the 2 people that would lose their office on the basis of that confession.

Allyuh think either of them kept records?
Redman,

You don't see any hints of misbehaviour in public office at the very least on the PM'S part? It is blatant yet everyone is normal and awaiting the next distraction , if it was kamla ppl out protesting and up on arms.


If it was Kamla......first it's DONT BLAME KAMLA, now it's if it was Kamla.
Allyuh need to pick whether we comparing to Kamla or not.

Of course there are hints and supposition.


But hints are not enough to give a CoP the justification to go after 2 of the highest office holders in the land.

All who calling for the CoP to make a serious step will be the ones bawling when it ends up with insufficient evidence, and they have zero liability.

What we feel isn't relevant.

Gary himself said information, evidence and proof.
They are different things in the court.


Do you think ANY party involved will incriminate themselves at this point?

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Redman wrote:
hover11 wrote:
Redman wrote:Start an investigation on what?
expecting there to be a confession from the 2 people that would lose their office on the basis of that confession.

Allyuh think either of them kept records?
Redman,

You don't see any hints of misbehaviour in public office at the very least on the PM'S part? It is blatant yet everyone is normal and awaiting the next distraction , if it was kamla ppl out protesting and up on arms.


If it was Kamla......first it's DONT BLAME KAMLA, now it's if it was Kamla.
Allyuh need to pick whether we comparing to Kamla or not.
Both scenarios are not the same. Comparing the reaction to two leaders is not the same as blaming one for everything. You really are a sheep.

Of course there are hints and supposition.


But hints are not enough to give a CoP the justification to go after 2 of the highest office holders in the land.

All who calling for the CoP to make a serious step will be the ones bawling when it ends up with insufficient evidence, and they have zero liability.

The police doesn't need for anyone to report a crime to investigate if they are aware or suspicion that a crime was committed. And worst yet in this case a suspected party basically admitted in public.

What we feel isn't relevant.

Gary himself said information, evidence and proof.
They are different things in the court.


Do you think ANY party involved will incriminate themselves at this point?


One party already has. There are clear procedures to adopt for the appointment of a cop. What the pm did was contrary.

I think everyone here are aware that I'm not a fan of GG. But he is right in this instance. And worst yet the pm have a veto power, so why try to bypass the process?

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Postby pugboy » March 19th, 2022, 1:50 pm

he has proven before to be a spiteful chap
not too smart

revenge is a dish best served cold
veto woulda have gg mind in a mess

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Postby De Dragon » March 19th, 2022, 8:10 pm

Redman wrote:Start an investigation on what?
expecting there to be a confession from the 2 people that would lose their office on the basis of that confession.

Allyuh think either of them kept records?

Cacks, somebody already did :roll:
Maybe your TV doesn't get anti LFD RFD PNM news.

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Postby Gladiator » March 19th, 2022, 10:44 pm

rollingstock wrote:
Redman wrote:
hover11 wrote:
Redman wrote:Start an investigation on what?
expecting there to be a confession from the 2 people that would lose their office on the basis of that confession.

Allyuh think either of them kept records?
Redman,

You don't see any hints of misbehaviour in public office at the very least on the PM'S part? It is blatant yet everyone is normal and awaiting the next distraction , if it was kamla ppl out protesting and up on arms.


If it was Kamla......first it's DONT BLAME KAMLA, now it's if it was Kamla.
Allyuh need to pick whether we comparing to Kamla or not.
Both scenarios are not the same. Comparing the reaction to two leaders is not the same as blaming one for everything. You really are a sheep.

Of course there are hints and supposition.


But hints are not enough to give a CoP the justification to go after 2 of the highest office holders in the land.

All who calling for the CoP to make a serious step will be the ones bawling when it ends up with insufficient evidence, and they have zero liability.

The police doesn't need for anyone to report a crime to investigate if they are aware or suspicion that a crime was committed. And worst yet in this case a suspected party basically admitted in public.

What we feel isn't relevant.

Gary himself said information, evidence and proof.
They are different things in the court.


Do you think ANY party involved will incriminate themselves at this point?


One party already has. There are clear procedures to adopt for the appointment of a cop. What the pm did was contrary.

I think everyone here are aware that I'm not a fan of GG. But he is right in this instance. And worst yet the pm have a veto power, so why try to bypass the process?


Its all about image... he would have gotten blamed if he did it by the book and didn't want the negative image

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Postby rollingstock » March 19th, 2022, 11:23 pm

Getting rid of GG was the right thing.
Which more important saving face or serving the populace?

Look where it reach now.

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Postby De Dragon » March 20th, 2022, 1:05 am

rollingstock wrote:Getting rid of GG was the right thing.
Which more important saving face or serving the populace?

Look where it reach now.

Not to dummies like Colos, who feel no wrongdoing happened even though Head LFD RFd Moron JUHN Scarfy admitted it

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Postby pugboy » March 20th, 2022, 1:33 pm

wonder whose idea it was last week to have south road cops to be on a different radio frequency than the north cops

like they expect escaping bandits to stay in either north or south districts and not cross over

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Postby rollingstock » March 20th, 2022, 1:34 pm

That's the way it is. Each area has a different assigned frequency.

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Postby pugboy » March 20th, 2022, 2:11 pm

the ol

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