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Postby adnj » January 9th, 2022, 9:18 pm

hover11 wrote:
ed360123 wrote:
hover11 wrote:
Phone Surgeon wrote:
PariaMan wrote:If comorbidities were as important as vaccination for those with covid there would be much more vaccinated dying

The fact that out of 197 only 13 were vaxxed means that by far the biggest factor is vaccination

The only interpretation of these numbers is get your vaccine and reduce your risk of dying with covid
Lol in hover mind it easier for the whole world to do a lifestyle change and just be healthy(hard luck for people with issues that are genetic or they born with, fhck them)

Than to take a simple vaccine
I see reading is a challenge for you....I clearly stated that the ones who suffer from those conditions through hereditary means ....meaning from biological genes from parents or grandparents passed down and they acquire those lifestyle diseases through that I don't Blame then but for the ones whose actions caused that upon themselves and think taking a vaccine gonna save their lives and they can simply continue their sedentary and junk filled lifestyle then I couldn't care less
What I nice way of saying you don't give a sheit if people die!
At some point natural selection has to run its course...vaccine or no vaccine .if you chose to eat doubles every day and kfc every week , hardly drink water, always with a beer and smoking right through or didn't even give exercise a thought well so be it...reap what you sow bro
~85% of COVID related deaths in Trinidad and Tobago is people that have very likely CHOSEN not to vaccinate.

THAT is natural selection.

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Postby MaxPower » January 9th, 2022, 9:18 pm

st7 wrote:yawnnn

bray bray bray. i din realise max was talking about the antivaxxers oui


Yeh boi hoss boi dan boi cuz boi…

Actually both the anti and pro vax playing the OX.

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Postby hover11 » January 9th, 2022, 9:19 pm

adnj wrote:
hover11 wrote:
ed360123 wrote:
hover11 wrote:
Phone Surgeon wrote:
PariaMan wrote:If comorbidities were as important as vaccination for those with covid there would be much more vaccinated dying

The fact that out of 197 only 13 were vaxxed means that by far the biggest factor is vaccination

The only interpretation of these numbers is get your vaccine and reduce your risk of dying with covid
Lol in hover mind it easier for the whole world to do a lifestyle change and just be healthy(hard luck for people with issues that are genetic or they born with, fhck them)

Than to take a simple vaccine
I see reading is a challenge for you....I clearly stated that the ones who suffer from those conditions through hereditary means ....meaning from biological genes from parents or grandparents passed down and they acquire those lifestyle diseases through that I don't Blame then but for the ones whose actions caused that upon themselves and think taking a vaccine gonna save their lives and they can simply continue their sedentary and junk filled lifestyle then I couldn't care less
What I nice way of saying you don't give a sheit if people die!
At some point natural selection has to run its course...vaccine or no vaccine .if you chose to eat doubles every day and kfc every week , hardly drink water, always with a beer and smoking right through or didn't even give exercise a thought well so be it...reap what you sow bro
~85% of COVID related deaths in Trinidad and Tobago is people that have very likely CHOSEN not to vaccinate.

THAT is natural selection.
Ok and out of that 85 percent how much were elderly and suffered with comorbidities ?

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Postby PariaMan » January 9th, 2022, 9:27 pm

Fact is even those with comorbidities once they vaxxed not dying

That's the biggest takeaway

So the conclusion is even if you have comorbidities you stand a better chance with the vaccine

hover11 wrote:
adnj wrote:
hover11 wrote:
ed360123 wrote:
hover11 wrote:
Phone Surgeon wrote:
PariaMan wrote:If comorbidities were as important as vaccination for those with covid there would be much more vaccinated dying

The fact that out of 197 only 13 were vaxxed means that by far the biggest factor is vaccination

The only interpretation of these numbers is get your vaccine and reduce your risk of dying with covid
Lol in hover mind it easier for the whole world to do a lifestyle change and just be healthy(hard luck for people with issues that are genetic or they born with, fhck them)

Than to take a simple vaccine
I see reading is a challenge for you....I clearly stated that the ones who suffer from those conditions through hereditary means ....meaning from biological genes from parents or grandparents passed down and they acquire those lifestyle diseases through that I don't Blame then but for the ones whose actions caused that upon themselves and think taking a vaccine gonna save their lives and they can simply continue their sedentary and junk filled lifestyle then I couldn't care less
What I nice way of saying you don't give a sheit if people die!
At some point natural selection has to run its course...vaccine or no vaccine .if you chose to eat doubles every day and kfc every week , hardly drink water, always with a beer and smoking right through or didn't even give exercise a thought well so be it...reap what you sow bro
~85% of COVID related deaths in Trinidad and Tobago is people that have very likely CHOSEN not to vaccinate.

THAT is natural selection.
Ok and out of that 85 percent how much were elderly and suffered with comorbidities ?

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Postby Chimera » January 9th, 2022, 9:28 pm

Lol this idiot don't realize that its mostly people with his line of thinking are the ones dying because they dotish

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Postby hover11 » January 9th, 2022, 9:32 pm

Well I'm healthy as I check my MD 3 months so I will chance the 97 percent survival rate....yall know it have worse things than covid still around right but let's only focus on covid I guess
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Postby alfa » January 9th, 2022, 9:33 pm

Do we really know the full stats of those who died at in terms of vax vs unvax as well as comorbidities? What about those treated with ivermectin and recovered, we only hear is the ones who didn't. When someone is murdered we get gory front page pics along with full name, address, age and occupation but COVID deaths is still for done reason shrouded in secrecy. As another tuner said death from COVID and death with COVID are two different things

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Postby j.o.e » January 9th, 2022, 9:34 pm

hover11 wrote:Well I'm healthy as I check my MD 3 months so I will chance the 97 percent survival rate....yall know it still worse things than covid still around right but let's only focus on covid I guess


Next time you go to the doctor which should be soon since you go every 3 months lol.
Ask him his opinion on vaccination

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Postby hover11 » January 9th, 2022, 9:37 pm

alfa wrote:Do we really know the full stats of those who died at in terms of vax vs unvax as well as comorbidities? What about those treated with ivermectin and recovered, we only hear is the ones who didn't. When someone is murdered we get gory front page pics along with full name, address, age and occupation but COVID deaths is still for done reason shrouded in secrecy. As another tuner said death from COVID and death with COVID are two different things
The CMO stated it himself not all covid deaths means the person died from covid

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Postby hover11 » January 9th, 2022, 9:39 pm

j.o.e wrote:
hover11 wrote:Well I'm healthy as I check my MD 3 months so I will chance the 97 percent survival rate....yall know it still worse things than covid still around right but let's only focus on covid I guess


Next time you go to the doctor which should be soon since you go every 3 months lol.
Ask him his opinion on vaccination
Why? That's his opinion and he is entitled to such, similarly there are doctors out there who are against and pro such. His opinion on vaccination doesn't change my perspective on such regardless what his perspective is

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Postby adnj » January 9th, 2022, 9:46 pm

hover11 wrote:
alfa wrote:Do we really know the full stats of those who died at in terms of vax vs unvax as well as comorbidities? What about those treated with ivermectin and recovered, we only hear is the ones who didn't. When someone is murdered we get gory front page pics along with full name, address, age and occupation but COVID deaths is still for done reason shrouded in secrecy. As another tuner said death from COVID and death with COVID are two different things
The CMO stated it himself not all covid deaths means the person died from covid
And ~85% of those numbers are unvaccinated.

Try harder.

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Postby st7 » January 9th, 2022, 9:51 pm

everyone: has opinion

hover: vex cause it doh match her opinion, goes ahead and posts frantically on tuner

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Postby hover11 » January 10th, 2022, 5:29 am

adnj wrote:
hover11 wrote:
alfa wrote:Do we really know the full stats of those who died at in terms of vax vs unvax as well as comorbidities? What about those treated with ivermectin and recovered, we only hear is the ones who didn't. When someone is murdered we get gory front page pics along with full name, address, age and occupation but COVID deaths is still for done reason shrouded in secrecy. As another tuner said death from COVID and death with COVID are two different things
The CMO stated it himself not all covid deaths means the person died from covid
And ~85% of those numbers are unvaccinated.

Try harder.
Again : a covid deceased death certificate always has a long string of causes of death........then at the end you see SARS 2 covid 19. Meaning these ppl were not healthy ppl. We could debate this non stop but you not factoring the age and the health of the ppl in that 85 percent


You really expect a 78 year old with diabetes , hypertension to survive covid even if they were vaccinated .....Really?

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Postby pugboy » January 10th, 2022, 6:31 am

yuh know ppl who have hiv/aids does die from stuff like pneumonia?

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Postby hover11 » January 10th, 2022, 6:35 am

pugboy wrote:yuh know ppl who have hiv/aids does die from stuff like pneumonia?
Correct that's because their immune system had been compromised, same as elderly , the older we get the weaker our immune systems are, which makes it difficult to fight off simple infections. Even drinking alcohol in a bar and smoking compromises your immune system

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Postby adnj » January 10th, 2022, 6:46 am

hover11 wrote:Again : a covid deceased death certificate always has a long string of causes of death........then at the end you see SARS 2 covid 19. Meaning these ppl were not healthy ppl. We could debate this non stop but you not factoring the age and the health of the ppl in that 85 percent

You really expect a 78 year old with diabetes , hypertension to survive covid even if they were vaccinated .....Really?
hover11 wrote:
pugboy wrote:yuh know ppl who have hiv/aids does die from stuff like pneumonia?
Correct that's because their immune system had been compromised, same as elderly , the older we get the weaker our immune systems are, which makes it difficult to fight off simple infections. Even drinking alcohol in a bar and smoking compromises your immune system


And if they had a recent COVID-related death in Trinidad, ~15% of them were vaccinated.

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Postby Redman » January 10th, 2022, 7:09 am

pugboy wrote:https://trinidadexpress.com/news/local/a-question-of-individual-rights-and-public-health/article_618af566-70e5-11ec-b53d-cff52842d22b.html

according to the industrial relations experts
the welfare of the majority overrides that of the individuals


No right is absolute.

This has to be Buuuuuuulllllsheeeeet.

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Postby hover11 » January 10th, 2022, 7:37 am

Redman wrote:
pugboy wrote:https://trinidadexpress.com/news/local/a-question-of-individual-rights-and-public-health/article_618af566-70e5-11ec-b53d-cff52842d22b.html

according to the industrial relations experts
the welfare of the majority overrides that of the individuals


No right is absolute.

This has to be Buuuuuuulllllsheeeeet.
According to the industrial
Court which supersedes any expert, the right is maintained by the individual to be vaccinated or not. At present, there is no legal basis which any employer has to refuse any unvaccinated employee to enter the premises and conduct his duties as he would normally

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Postby Redman » January 10th, 2022, 7:48 am

When the AG made a statement ALLUDING to the same we all had a sheet fit.

He had to be wrong
PNM dictatorship
Blah blah blah


Now we accepting that ABSOLUTE position quietly while lining up for govt mandated injections.

The world is certainly turning.

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Postby hover11 » January 10th, 2022, 7:52 am

Redman wrote:When the AG made a statement ALLUDING to the same we all had a sheet fit.

He had to be wrong
PNM dictatorship
Blah blah blah


Now we accepting that ABSOLUTE position quietly while lining up for govt mandated injections.

The world is certainly turning.
Resistance coming they in for a shock come next week

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Postby timelapse » January 10th, 2022, 8:36 am

hover11 wrote:
j.o.e wrote:
hover11 wrote:Well I'm healthy as I check my MD 3 months so I will chance the 97 percent survival rate....yall know it still worse things than covid still around right but let's only focus on covid I guess


Next time you go to the doctor which should be soon since you go every 3 months lol.
Ask him his opinion on vaccination
Why? That's his opinion and he is entitled to such, similarly there are doctors out there who are against and pro such. His opinion on vaccination doesn't change my perspective on such regardless what his perspective is
Why waste your money and his time if you don't care about his professional opinion?
Your logic not logicing

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Postby hover11 » January 10th, 2022, 11:17 am

timelapse wrote:
hover11 wrote:
j.o.e wrote:
hover11 wrote:Well I'm healthy as I check my MD 3 months so I will chance the 97 percent survival rate....yall know it still worse things than covid still around right but let's only focus on covid I guess


Next time you go to the doctor which should be soon since you go every 3 months lol.
Ask him his opinion on vaccination
Why? That's his opinion and he is entitled to such, similarly there are doctors out there who are against and pro such. His opinion on vaccination doesn't change my perspective on such regardless what his perspective is
Why waste your money and his time if you don't care about his professional opinion?
Your logic not logicing
Times,

I trust my doctor to advise me based on his medical background. This covid 19 vaccine is new and controversial, doctors are split regarding such, I can meet a doctor who spent years in med school saying he is for and I can also find another doctor who spent the equivalent years in med school who would be against. That's the thing with doctors or ppl in expertise Mechanics, lawyers, physicians etc, if I don't like what I hear from one I am entitled to seek a second opinion from another

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Postby redmanjp » January 10th, 2022, 11:37 am

how many doctors have u consulted on this issue?

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Postby daring dragoon » January 10th, 2022, 11:49 am

what do muslims do with muslims who die from covid? do they cremate the body?, do they bury in the seal casket?, do they wrap in the 40 yards of cloth and then some kinda air tight plastic ?
i think they dont believe in cremation and using caskets as it doesnt mesh with the natural order of nature of some such thing. i tried looking for some muslim covid funeral on youtube but no luck.

i am asking as i am wonder an DO NOT mean any disrespect to any muslim tuner.

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Postby PariaMan » January 10th, 2022, 12:07 pm

29 policemen dead 1 was vaccinated

If comorbidities were a significant factor we would expect more vaccinated to die

It cannot be that only people who are unvaccinated have comorbidities.

We only need to look at empirical evidence like this to show that vaccines reduces your risk of dying regardless if you have comorbidities.

Go out and get your vaccine and get boosted when it's due

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Postby hover11 » January 10th, 2022, 2:09 pm

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
hover11 wrote:
timelapse wrote:
hover11 wrote:
j.o.e wrote:
hover11 wrote:Well I'm healthy as I check my MD 3 months so I will chance the 97 percent survival rate....yall know it still worse things than covid still around right but let's only focus on covid I guess


Next time you go to the doctor which should be soon since you go every 3 months lol.
Ask him his opinion on vaccination
Why? That's his opinion and he is entitled to such, similarly there are doctors out there who are against and pro such. His opinion on vaccination doesn't change my perspective on such regardless what his perspective is
Why waste your money and his time if you don't care about his professional opinion?
Your logic not logicing
Times,

I trust my doctor to advise me based on his medical background. This covid 19 vaccine is new and controversial, doctors are split regarding such, I can meet a doctor who spent years in med school saying he is for and I can also find another doctor who spent the equivalent years in med school who would be against. That's the thing with doctors or ppl in expertise Mechanics, lawyers, physicians etc, if I don't like what I hear from one I am entitled to seek a second opinion from another

Your doctor is against Covid vaccines?
Duane,

To answer your question , my doctor is on the fence , he said if ppl wish to take it that is their choice, he took his vaccine but is not advising others to take it due to seeing the negative effects his own daughter experienced shortly after having her first dose of pfizer (anaphylactic shock)

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Postby adnj » January 10th, 2022, 2:22 pm

hover11 wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
hover11 wrote:
timelapse wrote:
hover11 wrote:
j.o.e wrote:
hover11 wrote:Well I'm healthy as I check my MD 3 months so I will chance the 97 percent survival rate....yall know it still worse things than covid still around right but let's only focus on covid I guess


Next time you go to the doctor which should be soon since you go every 3 months lol.
Ask him his opinion on vaccination
Why? That's his opinion and he is entitled to such, similarly there are doctors out there who are against and pro such. His opinion on vaccination doesn't change my perspective on such regardless what his perspective is
Why waste your money and his time if you don't care about his professional opinion?
Your logic not logicing
Times,

I trust my doctor to advise me based on his medical background. This covid 19 vaccine is new and controversial, doctors are split regarding such, I can meet a doctor who spent years in med school saying he is for and I can also find another doctor who spent the equivalent years in med school who would be against. That's the thing with doctors or ppl in expertise Mechanics, lawyers, physicians etc, if I don't like what I hear from one I am entitled to seek a second opinion from another

Your doctor is against Covid vaccines?
Duane,

To answer your question , my doctor is on the fence , he said if ppl wish to take it that is their choice, he took his vaccine but is not advising others to take it due to seeing the negative effects his own daughter experienced shortly after having her first dose of pfizer (anaphylactic shock)


Doctor is vaxxed.
Doctor's daughter is vaxxed.
Doctor IS NOT on the fence.

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Postby hover11 » January 10th, 2022, 2:27 pm

adnj wrote:
hover11 wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
hover11 wrote:
timelapse wrote:
hover11 wrote:
j.o.e wrote:
hover11 wrote:Well I'm healthy as I check my MD 3 months so I will chance the 97 percent survival rate....yall know it still worse things than covid still around right but let's only focus on covid I guess


Next time you go to the doctor which should be soon since you go every 3 months lol.
Ask him his opinion on vaccination
Why? That's his opinion and he is entitled to such, similarly there are doctors out there who are against and pro such. His opinion on vaccination doesn't change my perspective on such regardless what his perspective is
Why waste your money and his time if you don't care about his professional opinion?
Your logic not logicing
Times,

I trust my doctor to advise me based on his medical background. This covid 19 vaccine is new and controversial, doctors are split regarding such, I can meet a doctor who spent years in med school saying he is for and I can also find another doctor who spent the equivalent years in med school who would be against. That's the thing with doctors or ppl in expertise Mechanics, lawyers, physicians etc, if I don't like what I hear from one I am entitled to seek a second opinion from another

Your doctor is against Covid vaccines?
Duane,

To answer your question , my doctor is on the fence , he said if ppl wish to take it that is their choice, he took his vaccine but is not advising others to take it due to seeing the negative effects his own daughter experienced shortly after having her first dose of pfizer (anaphylactic shock)


Doctor is vaxxed.
Doctor's daughter is vaxxed.
Doctor IS NOT on the fence.
Wrong ,

Would you send your child to complete her vaccine regime if she suffered severe complications after the first dose? So no daughter is NOT vaxxed, he said will stay home if she has too and not to long after the minister of education allowed all form 5s to continue vaxxed and unvaxxed
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Postby j.o.e » January 10th, 2022, 2:42 pm

Public servants. How allyuh going ?

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Postby DTAC » January 10th, 2022, 2:49 pm

adnj wrote:Doctor is vaxxed.
Doctor's daughter is vaxxed, waxed and looking to make a man collapse.
Doctor IS shopping for a shotgun and FUL.


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