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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » July 16th, 2021, 8:08 pm

Habit7 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:WDF

Bluefete on a roll, yuh go give Habitarse 7 & Redman a heart attack.

Yes 13yrs later, these brand new revelations will spell the end of Rowley's political career. Finally!!!
It shows how corrupt Trinidad court system is.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby matr1x » July 16th, 2021, 8:10 pm

I see the rowlee supporters hanging around the 130,00.00 like a fly on too too.



Why they don't talk about the decades of corruption?

Or better yet the nepotism, and stuffing of stare boards

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby sam1978 » July 16th, 2021, 8:11 pm

Habit7 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:WDF

Bluefete on a roll, yuh go give Habitarse 7 & Redman a heart attack.

Yes 13yrs later, these brand new revelations will spell the end of Rowley's political career. Finally!!!


Any reason why the gate pass isn't signed by the respective person ?

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » July 16th, 2021, 11:17 pm

sam1978 wrote:
Habit7 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:WDF

Bluefete on a roll, yuh go give Habitarse 7 & Redman a heart attack.

Yes 13yrs later, these brand new revelations will spell the end of Rowley's political career. Finally!!!


Any reason why the gate pass isn't signed by the respective person ?
Cause it was red government guard

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby sam1978 » July 17th, 2021, 7:08 am

You have a form that is supposed to be authorized by a company official for material to be sent out from stock and it’s not signed ? Maybe nobody wants to take the blame for what was going on?

Skippy was there working as a guard and knew what happened , he spilled the beans and was eventually rewarded with a high paying job in a ministry. He got the documents for Ganga , it is alleged.

Rowdy was cleared of wrongdoing doesn’t mean wrong wasn’t done , but we have the contractor’s word that it wasn’t done.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby sam1978 » July 17th, 2021, 7:22 am

Who was the minister of housing when Cleaver Heights contract was given to Emily Liars ? Who was the owner of one of the houses Emily rented in Tobago?

Who was asked about the discrepancies in the cost of Cleaver Heights? Whose mansion was worked on by Emily? Hint: someone said “ Emily is my good friend .”

Who has “good friends “ who always in some bobol?

Madam speaker , I don’t know . I just asking. Where the money gone?

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Redman » July 17th, 2021, 7:22 am

It's not a big word...for it to exist there has to be 2 separate owners

I've not been able to find anything other than the material being moved.

NHIC moving their own material or not?

Who was harmed by this material moving?.

bluefete wrote:What is the big word the banks use- Co-mingling?

So NHIC bought the material for the hospital and Rowley's project and put it all at the Scarborough site. And then moved the material to Mason Hall as necessary?

That makes perfect sense to me. Perfect sense.

Why was the material not immediately placed on Rowley's land? Why was it "co-mingled?"

Redman wrote:The material moved from one site to another.

The material belonged to who?

Is it that the material belonged to the hospital and was stolen by landate?

Or was NHIC moving it's own material between projects that it was working on and being paid on completion?

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » July 17th, 2021, 7:53 am

*T&T's registers negative US$439M foreign direct investment; worst in Caribbean*

The United Nations Conference on Trade and Development’s (UNCTAD’s) World Investment Report for 2021, has shown that among all the countries in the Caribbean, Trinidad and Tobago suffered the worse in Foreign Direct Investment (FDI) in 2020 with negative FDI in the hundreds of millions of US dollars.
The negative figure was put at US$439 million (approx TT$3 billion) and the report noted that it was mainly due to the slow down in the energy sector.
Negative FDI values indicate where outflows of investment exceed inflows and largely results when the loans from the affiliate to its parent exceed the loans and equity capital given by the parent to the affiliate.
Haiti, was among the countries that performed better than T&T, with positive FDIs.

The report noted that in 2020, FDI in the Caribbean region, excluding the offshore financial centres, declined 36 per cent to US$2.5 billion.
The report pointed out that the Caribbean region suffered from the collapse in tourism and the halt in investment in the travel and leisure industry triggered by the pandemic.
“The overall contraction was mainly caused by a 15 per cent decline in FDI to the Dominican Republic, the major recipient in the region, to US$2.6 billion,” it said.
It then referred to Haiti, which saw a drop in its foreign direct investment but still remained in the positive.

“FDI flows dropped from US$75 to US$30 million, in response not only to the pandemic crisis but also to civil unrest and the alarming worsening of the humanitarian crisis that has continued since 2018.”
However, the report then pointed out that Trinidad and Tobago did not just see a drop, but went from positive foreign direct investment to negative FDI.
“Finally, FDI to Trinidad and Tobago turned negative, to -US$439 million, with a severe impact in the energy industry, which accounts for approximately half of GDP.”
Almost US$70 billion flowed into the Caribbean region in 2020 as foreign direct investment, despite the COVID-19 pandemic and the devastating toll it has taken on most regional economies. The amount was at least $8 billion more than 2019.

The British Virgin Islands, The Cayman Islands, the Dominican Republic and Guyana all reaped investments of a billion and up.
The BVI saw the largest inflow at US$39,620,000 followed by Cayman Islands with US$23,621,000.
The Dominican Republic and Guyana rolled in US$2,554,000 and US$1,834,000, respectively.
Apart from Trinidad and Tobago, Suriname was the only other country with negative FDI, as that country’s FDI dropped to -US$27 million.

For more info: https://unctad.org/system/files/officia ... h02_en.pdf

Imagine Haiti did better

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby sam1978 » July 17th, 2021, 8:05 am

In more ways than this.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » July 17th, 2021, 10:24 am

shake d livin wake d dead wrote:*T&T's registers negative US$439M foreign direct investment; worst in Caribbean*

The United Nations Conference on Trade and Development’s (UNCTAD’s) World Investment Report for 2021, has shown that among all the countries in the Caribbean, Trinidad and Tobago suffered the worse in Foreign Direct Investment (FDI) in 2020 with negative FDI in the hundreds of millions of US dollars.
The negative figure was put at US$439 million (approx TT$3 billion) and the report noted that it was mainly due to the slow down in the energy sector.
Negative FDI values indicate where outflows of investment exceed inflows and largely results when the loans from the affiliate to its parent exceed the loans and equity capital given by the parent to the affiliate.
Haiti, was among the countries that performed better than T&T, with positive FDIs.

The report noted that in 2020, FDI in the Caribbean region, excluding the offshore financial centres, declined 36 per cent to US$2.5 billion.
The report pointed out that the Caribbean region suffered from the collapse in tourism and the halt in investment in the travel and leisure industry triggered by the pandemic.
“The overall contraction was mainly caused by a 15 per cent decline in FDI to the Dominican Republic, the major recipient in the region, to US$2.6 billion,” it said.
It then referred to Haiti, which saw a drop in its foreign direct investment but still remained in the positive.

“FDI flows dropped from US$75 to US$30 million, in response not only to the pandemic crisis but also to civil unrest and the alarming worsening of the humanitarian crisis that has continued since 2018.”
However, the report then pointed out that Trinidad and Tobago did not just see a drop, but went from positive foreign direct investment to negative FDI.
“Finally, FDI to Trinidad and Tobago turned negative, to -US$439 million, with a severe impact in the energy industry, which accounts for approximately half of GDP.”
Almost US$70 billion flowed into the Caribbean region in 2020 as foreign direct investment, despite the COVID-19 pandemic and the devastating toll it has taken on most regional economies. The amount was at least $8 billion more than 2019.

The British Virgin Islands, The Cayman Islands, the Dominican Republic and Guyana all reaped investments of a billion and up.
The BVI saw the largest inflow at US$39,620,000 followed by Cayman Islands with US$23,621,000.
The Dominican Republic and Guyana rolled in US$2,554,000 and US$1,834,000, respectively.
Apart from Trinidad and Tobago, Suriname was the only other country with negative FDI, as that country’s FDI dropped to -US$27 million.

For more info: https://unctad.org/system/files/officia ... h02_en.pdf

Imagine Haiti did better
Habitarse 7 brushed it off as oil prices recovering when in fact it has nothing to do with oil prices but how the red government ill managing this Cont tree

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Redman » July 17th, 2021, 10:56 am

Yuh still whining ZR.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » July 17th, 2021, 11:17 am

Redman wrote:Yuh still whining ZR.
U still remain a tuny

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby sMASH » July 17th, 2021, 5:40 pm

projects a and b under same contractor.
project a has 10 loads of material in its estimate, project b has 40 loads in its esitmate.
project b really only needs 30 loads, but project b is state funded. so the 40 loads is still bought.
the extra 10 loads it doesnt need, is MATERIAL SHUTTLED BETWEEN SITES
and so the money project a has to spend, isnt necessary.


what is necessary is a valuation of how much materials were in teh final buildings, and compare that to what was bought.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » July 17th, 2021, 7:28 pm

sMASH wrote:projects a and b under same contractor.
project a has 10 loads of material in its estimate, project b has 40 loads in its esitmate.
project b really only needs 30 loads, but project b is state funded. so the 40 loads is still bought.
the extra 10 loads it doesnt need, is MATERIAL SHUTTLED BETWEEN SITES
and so the money project a has to spend, isnt necessary.


what is necessary is a valuation of how much materials were in teh final buildings, and compare that to what was bought.
Habitarse 7 already defended dis. It shows how nasty and corrupted he is when defending the red government

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Redman » July 18th, 2021, 7:21 am

Ok ...material was moved.

http://robinmontano.blogspot.com/2010/03/?m=1


The whole truth is this: way back in 2004 there was a Commission of Enquiry (COE) into the construction of the Scarborough General Hospital headed by retired Justice Annestine Sealey. The "players" were NIPDEC which was the owner of the project, and NHIC which was the contractor. (Incidentally, NIPDEC was then headed by Calder Hart!) There were several complaints surrounding the project including the question of rather serious cost overruns. Another serious question was whether or not materials were being transported from the Scarborough General Hospital site to another site where NIPDEC was also the defacto contractor. This site was owned by Dr. Rowley's wife and was known as Landate

The allegation was that valuable construction materials were being transferred from a public works project to the private Landate project illegally.

NHIC at first participated in the COE but withdrew before one of its senior managers could be cross-examined on this question of illegally transferring materials. The evidence that came out of the COE (amongst other things) was:

(a) that the terms of the contract were that the materials became the property of the owner (NIPDEC) as soon as they arrived on site (my emphasis);
(b) that the engineer had no idea that the materials were being moved;
(c) that, in the words of the Quantity Surveyor for the project Mr. Cleveland Leonard (partner to local Transparency Jefe Victor Hart), this moving of materials was "a recipe for chaos"; and
(d) that there had been no real or proper accounting concerning what materials had been moved.

NHIC at first tried to say that the materials belonged to their corporate entity and that they could do with them whatever they liked. They argued that in any case, moving materials from site to site without the knowledge or consent of the engineer was standard practise in Trinidad & Tobago. Unfortunately for NHIC, the only witnesses who supported this thesis were from NHIC. In addition, the contract clearly disproved the allegation that the materials belonged to NHIC.
Well, the COE recommended that the police investigate the matter with a view to seeing whether or not NHIC had breached the provisions of the Larceny Act. In other words, had NHIC stolen the materials?
NHIC would be guilty of theft if it could be shown that the materials that were removed from the Scarborough General Hospital site to Landate had not been accounted for and if in fact NIPDEC had paid for them. Remember, the engineer had no idea that NHIC was removing the materials!

The matter has lain fallow now for 6 years. The DPP reported about a year ago that the police said that they couldn't investigate the matter because they did not have the file and they didn't have a copy of the COE's report! Good grief! Only in a Mickey Mouse country could such an excuse be made. But, it has held water up to now!

Mr. Elias also says that the matter should not be investigated because the Integrity Commission (IC) already did so and the High Court has ruled on the matter. Well, again, that is only half true. What happened was that the IC decided that Dr. Rowley had breached the provisions of the Integrity Act in regard to his declarations on Landate and had decided to prosecute him. Dr. Rowley applied to the High Court for judicial review of the decision to prosecute him saying that he had not been given a chance to explain himself. The High Court agreed and said the IC was wrong not first to give him a chance to be heard. And that was all! The substantive question on the issue has never been determined.

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby assassin » July 18th, 2021, 8:59 am

From my prior readings, key issues related to Landate were not materials being diverted to the site. That was for the public spectacle. The real story lies years before.

More glaring is the acquisition and transfer of the lands. It was purchased by the "developer" from who? At what price? What transactions were then done? What was the final land value? And the further involvement of Government agencies? Agricultural lands?

That is the full Landate matter

Weaker minds will be captivated by loads of red sand and lengths of steel

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby MaxPower » July 18th, 2021, 8:10 pm

UNC nothing

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » July 18th, 2021, 9:40 pm

MaxPower wrote:UNC nothing
At this stage

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Habit7 » July 19th, 2021, 12:51 pm

zoom rader wrote:
sMASH wrote:projects a and b under same contractor.
project a has 10 loads of material in its estimate, project b has 40 loads in its esitmate.
project b really only needs 30 loads, but project b is state funded. so the 40 loads is still bought.
the extra 10 loads it doesnt need, is MATERIAL SHUTTLED BETWEEN SITES
and so the money project a has to spend, isnt necessary.


what is necessary is a valuation of how much materials were in teh final buildings, and compare that to what was bought.
Habitarse 7 already defended dis. It shows how nasty and corrupted he is when defending the red government

I never comment on this.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Redman » July 19th, 2021, 1:38 pm

Habit whether you posted or not is irrelevant... reality does not factor into ZRs opinions.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby sam1978 » July 19th, 2021, 7:40 pm

Which is the National anthem and which are our watch words?

1: Together we aspire , together we achieve.

2: Discipline, production and tolerance.

Deliesing so dumb?
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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » July 19th, 2021, 7:45 pm

Habit7 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
sMASH wrote:projects a and b under same contractor.
project a has 10 loads of material in its estimate, project b has 40 loads in its esitmate.
project b really only needs 30 loads, but project b is state funded. so the 40 loads is still bought.
the extra 10 loads it doesnt need, is MATERIAL SHUTTLED BETWEEN SITES
and so the money project a has to spend, isnt necessary.


what is necessary is a valuation of how much materials were in teh final buildings, and compare that to what was bought.
Habitarse 7 already defended dis. It shows how nasty and corrupted he is when defending the red government

I never comment on this.
Yes you dud mudda effer.
Lying scum

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » July 19th, 2021, 7:46 pm

Redman wrote:Habit whether you posted or not is irrelevant... reality does not factor into ZRs opinions.
You sucking habitarse 7 balls too?

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby SuperiorMan » July 19th, 2021, 8:19 pm

lol how the f that man become a minister?

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Habit7 » July 19th, 2021, 8:35 pm

zoom rader wrote:
Habit7 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
sMASH wrote:projects a and b under same contractor.
project a has 10 loads of material in its estimate, project b has 40 loads in its esitmate.
project b really only needs 30 loads, but project b is state funded. so the 40 loads is still bought.
the extra 10 loads it doesnt need, is MATERIAL SHUTTLED BETWEEN SITES
and so the money project a has to spend, isnt necessary.


what is necessary is a valuation of how much materials were in teh final buildings, and compare that to what was bought.
Habitarse 7 already defended dis. It shows how nasty and corrupted he is when defending the red government

I never comment on this.
Yes you dud mudda effer.
Lying scum

Quote me

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby MaxPower » July 19th, 2021, 8:45 pm

Jeezus crice Terrance

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby sam1978 » July 19th, 2021, 9:16 pm

I wonder which worse? Terrance or Rowdy saying take yuh food and scatter. No other PM in the world has this behavior.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby sMASH » July 19th, 2021, 9:27 pm

tolipto kill ozomobab...

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby MaxPower » July 19th, 2021, 9:33 pm

sam1978 wrote:I wonder which worse? Terrance or Rowdy saying take yuh food and scatter. No other PM in the world has this behavior.


Well,

Master Keith knows the behavior and breed of Trinis, so telling them to scatter like monkeys taking bananas is pretty relatable.

But Terrance doesn’t even know the national anthem.

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