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Mmoney607 wrote:Ben_spanna wrote:Carbon12 wrote:daxt0r wrote:i say leave them unvaccinated and post all ah dem to Chacachacare to mingle and live then let the most important statistic, death among the unvaccinated, jus wipe dem off d face off the earth. For too long we let the dumb and weak survive thru economic and social measures it's time for the laws of nature to apply an get rid of all the weaker animals as only the strong and intelligent are fit to survive in the wild.
If that's your vaxxed mentality, why allyu want us to take the vaccine? Based on your logic we must comply otherwise be banished? For whatever reasoning you decide but others should not have a choice?
I will state this openly, I am not anti-vaccine but pro choice and accountability.
If you want to be a pawn how can you give advice to a king?
Non vaccinated people is what allows for the easier mutation of the virus, it spreads faster and easier in people who are not vaccinated.. if you choose to stay non vaccinated then ok, but if in order to reduce the spread of the virus you have you be confined to your home then so be it, your choice, you consequence...
Why would the virus need to mutate in order to infect people that it is already infecting?
Dohplaydat wrote:Mmoney607 wrote:Ben_spanna wrote:Carbon12 wrote:daxt0r wrote:i say leave them unvaccinated and post all ah dem to Chacachacare to mingle and live then let the most important statistic, death among the unvaccinated, jus wipe dem off d face off the earth. For too long we let the dumb and weak survive thru economic and social measures it's time for the laws of nature to apply an get rid of all the weaker animals as only the strong and intelligent are fit to survive in the wild.
If that's your vaxxed mentality, why allyu want us to take the vaccine? Based on your logic we must comply otherwise be banished? For whatever reasoning you decide but others should not have a choice?
I will state this openly, I am not anti-vaccine but pro choice and accountability.
If you want to be a pawn how can you give advice to a king?
Non vaccinated people is what allows for the easier mutation of the virus, it spreads faster and easier in people who are not vaccinated.. if you choose to stay non vaccinated then ok, but if in order to reduce the spread of the virus you have you be confined to your home then so be it, your choice, you consequence...
Why would the virus need to mutate in order to infect people that it is already infecting?
It does not need to, it just does and the more spread the more possibilities for variants.
Spread and virus replication is greatly reduced amongst vaccinated people.
Dohplaydat wrote:Mmoney607 wrote:Ben_spanna wrote:Carbon12 wrote:daxt0r wrote:i say leave them unvaccinated and post all ah dem to Chacachacare to mingle and live then let the most important statistic, death among the unvaccinated, jus wipe dem off d face off the earth. For too long we let the dumb and weak survive thru economic and social measures it's time for the laws of nature to apply an get rid of all the weaker animals as only the strong and intelligent are fit to survive in the wild.
If that's your vaxxed mentality, why allyu want us to take the vaccine? Based on your logic we must comply otherwise be banished? For whatever reasoning you decide but others should not have a choice?
I will state this openly, I am not anti-vaccine but pro choice and accountability.
If you want to be a pawn how can you give advice to a king?
Non vaccinated people is what allows for the easier mutation of the virus, it spreads faster and easier in people who are not vaccinated.. if you choose to stay non vaccinated then ok, but if in order to reduce the spread of the virus you have you be confined to your home then so be it, your choice, you consequence...
Why would the virus need to mutate in order to infect people that it is already infecting?
It does not need to, it just does and the more spread the more possibilities for variants.
Spread and virus replication is greatly reduced amongst vaccinated people.
Mmoney607 wrote:Dohplaydat wrote:Mmoney607 wrote:Ben_spanna wrote:Carbon12 wrote:daxt0r wrote:i say leave them unvaccinated and post all ah dem to Chacachacare to mingle and live then let the most important statistic, death among the unvaccinated, jus wipe dem off d face off the earth. For too long we let the dumb and weak survive thru economic and social measures it's time for the laws of nature to apply an get rid of all the weaker animals as only the strong and intelligent are fit to survive in the wild.
If that's your vaxxed mentality, why allyu want us to take the vaccine? Based on your logic we must comply otherwise be banished? For whatever reasoning you decide but others should not have a choice?
I will state this openly, I am not anti-vaccine but pro choice and accountability.
If you want to be a pawn how can you give advice to a king?
Non vaccinated people is what allows for the easier mutation of the virus, it spreads faster and easier in people who are not vaccinated.. if you choose to stay non vaccinated then ok, but if in order to reduce the spread of the virus you have you be confined to your home then so be it, your choice, you consequence...
Why would the virus need to mutate in order to infect people that it is already infecting?
It does not need to, it just does and the more spread the more possibilities for variants.
Spread and virus replication is greatly reduced amongst vaccinated people.
Well by that logic we should expect the deadly Haiti and Afghanistan variants soon.
Antibiotics such as streptomycin, gentamicin, doxycycline, or ciprofloxacin are used to treat plague.hover11 wrote:200 million recovered vs 4 million dead hmmm....it's not the black plague broSimSimmer69 wrote:What masses? The only masses during this pandemic are the misinformed who think it's okay to allow a virus that's already killed over 4 million people to still exist because they think Google has made them more knowledgeable than scientists.hover11 wrote:Everyone has a choice can't blame ppl because they picked their side and stick to such. Don't be a blind follower , just following the massesK74T wrote:InB4hover11.
adnj wrote:Antibiotics such as streptomycin, gentamicin, doxycycline, or ciprofloxacin are used to treat plague.hover11 wrote:200 million recovered vs 4 million dead hmmm....it's not the black plague broSimSimmer69 wrote:What masses? The only masses during this pandemic are the misinformed who think it's okay to allow a virus that's already killed over 4 million people to still exist because they think Google has made them more knowledgeable than scientists.hover11 wrote:Everyone has a choice can't blame ppl because they picked their side and stick to such. Don't be a blind follower , just following the massesK74T wrote:InB4hover11.
There is currently no effective treatment for COVID.
There was no effective treatment for bubonic plague in the 14th century, either.hover11 wrote:In terms of comparison and effects once you caught the plague it was treated as a death sentence vs covid which you will more than likely will survive with little or no medical intervention....this is no black plagueadnj wrote:Antibiotics such as streptomycin, gentamicin, doxycycline, or ciprofloxacin are used to treat plague.hover11 wrote:200 million recovered vs 4 million dead hmmm....it's not the black plague broSimSimmer69 wrote:What masses? The only masses during this pandemic are the misinformed who think it's okay to allow a virus that's already killed over 4 million people to still exist because they think Google has made them more knowledgeable than scientists.hover11 wrote:Everyone has a choice can't blame ppl because they picked their side and stick to such. Don't be a blind follower , just following the massesK74T wrote:InB4hover11.
There is currently no effective treatment for COVID.
redmanjp wrote:the unvaxxed are still a threat to the vaxxed because variants can emerge among the unvaxxed (as they already have!) which can mutate to the point where they evade the immunity from current vaccines
Mmoney607 wrote:redmanjp wrote:the unvaxxed are still a threat to the vaxxed because variants can emerge among the unvaxxed (as they already have!) which can mutate to the point where they evade the immunity from current vaccines
Pfizer is already only 39% effective against delta.
https://www.businessinsider.com/pfizer- ... udy-2021-8
DMan7 wrote:Mmoney607 wrote:redmanjp wrote:the unvaxxed are still a threat to the vaxxed because variants can emerge among the unvaxxed (as they already have!) which can mutate to the point where they evade the immunity from current vaccines
Pfizer is already only 39% effective against delta.
https://www.businessinsider.com/pfizer- ... udy-2021-8
It says 42% effective get your information correct!
DMan7 wrote:Mmoney607 wrote:redmanjp wrote:the unvaxxed are still a threat to the vaxxed because variants can emerge among the unvaxxed (as they already have!) which can mutate to the point where they evade the immunity from current vaccines
Pfizer is already only 39% effective against delta.
https://www.businessinsider.com/pfizer- ... udy-2021-8
It says 42% effective get your information correct!
DMan7 wrote:Mmoney607 wrote:redmanjp wrote:the unvaxxed are still a threat to the vaxxed because variants can emerge among the unvaxxed (as they already have!) which can mutate to the point where they evade the immunity from current vaccines
Pfizer is already only 39% effective against delta.
https://www.businessinsider.com/pfizer- ... udy-2021-8
It says 42% effective get your information correct!
hover11 wrote:Wow below 50 percent more importantly I would like to know sinopharm efficacy as most of the population has been inoculated with suchDMan7 wrote:Mmoney607 wrote:redmanjp wrote:the unvaxxed are still a threat to the vaxxed because variants can emerge among the unvaxxed (as they already have!) which can mutate to the point where they evade the immunity from current vaccines
Pfizer is already only 39% effective against delta.
https://www.businessinsider.com/pfizer- ... udy-2021-8
It says 42% effective get your information correct!
What even is this meme?hover11 wrote:Oh yeahhhhhh
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:hover11 wrote:Wow below 50 percent more importantly I would like to know sinopharm efficacy as most of the population has been inoculated with suchDMan7 wrote:Mmoney607 wrote:redmanjp wrote:the unvaxxed are still a threat to the vaxxed because variants can emerge among the unvaxxed (as they already have!) which can mutate to the point where they evade the immunity from current vaccines
Pfizer is already only 39% effective against delta.
https://www.businessinsider.com/pfizer- ... udy-2021-8
It says 42% effective get your information correct!
This video explains covid vaccine efficacy and why it is not the only measure to look at
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:This is insanity
Look at current data. Florida has four times the infection rate. Two weeks ago, Florida was ten times higher.matr1x wrote:Hawaii and Florida have different mask requirements...and same infection rate.
Masks not doing anything
England dropped most of its Covid restrictions in July. One month on, here's how it's goingPariaMan wrote:From what happened in England as vaccination kicks in even when cases are high death rate will be low
hover11 wrote:You mean this England that's dealing with 90 deaths per day due to covid ....if that's low well okEngland dropped most of its Covid restrictions in July. One month on, here's how it's goingPariaMan wrote:From what happened in England as vaccination kicks in even when cases are high death rate will be low
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.co ... index.html
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:hover11 wrote:You mean this England that's dealing with 90 deaths per day due to covid ....if that's low well okEngland dropped most of its Covid restrictions in July. One month on, here's how it's goingPariaMan wrote:From what happened in England as vaccination kicks in even when cases are high death rate will be low
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.co ... index.html
Did you read the entire article or just the parts that agreed with your position?
"A month on, it's becoming clear that while vaccination works, the reopening has come at a cost.
"The UK is averaging around 90 deaths a day from Covid. Our reopening has been far from an unqualified success," said Kit Yates, co-director of the Centre for Mathematical Biology at the University of Bath.
While the death toll is much lower than it was at the peak of the pandemic, when as many as 1,300 people were dying every day, experts like Yates say it's still unnecessarily high."
1 death is too high however the key takeaways are that the vaccines work and reopening fully was a bad idea.
Had they kept with restrictions along with high vaccination rates they would have been even better off.
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