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Postby xtech » May 10th, 2024, 3:28 pm

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Powerful storm might be heading to earth if we are unlucky we will see northern lights in Trinidad

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Postby sMASH » May 10th, 2024, 3:43 pm

Sahara dust will shield us...

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Postby xtech » May 10th, 2024, 3:54 pm

sMASH wrote:Sahara dust will shield us...



Hopefully it don’t get to G4 or 5

We don’t want to test the Sahara dust shield’s limits

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Re: Astronomy

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Re: Astronomy

Postby maj. tom » May 10th, 2024, 7:06 pm

^That's so spectacular! Wish I could have seen that with my own eyes.
53°N latitude? is a good place to capture it.

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Postby redmanjp » May 10th, 2024, 7:10 pm

Time to wrap all devices in foil?

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Postby matr1x » May 10th, 2024, 7:13 pm

redmanjp wrote:Time to wrap all devices in foil?



Won't help

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Re: Astronomy

Postby maj. tom » May 10th, 2024, 7:33 pm

I read reports last night where people were saying that they were able to see a massive sunspot with their eclipse glasses yesterday, no telescopes needed. https://www.swpc.noaa.gov/news/large-and-complex-sunspot-groups-lead-increased-solar-flare-chances


Now a huge huge solar flare erupted the next day (today) and creating a Severe G4 Geomagnetic Storm.
https://www.swpc.noaa.gov/news/g4-conditions-observed

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Re: Astronomy

Postby The Bamboo Online » May 10th, 2024, 8:28 pm

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level 5 achieved

Super high chances of seeing northern lights from my location upstate NY. Normal numbers are 0% on everything

Sun just set here going out to see what’s up

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Postby nick639v2 » May 10th, 2024, 10:57 pm

The Bamboo Online wrote:
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level 5 achieved

Super high chances of seeing northern lights from my location upstate NY. Normal numbers are 0% on everything

Sun just set here going out to see what’s up



Too cloudy here in Long Island . I’m here for a little and got excited to shoot some photos but nothin

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Re: Astronomy

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Sahara borealis

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Re: Astronomy

Postby maj. tom » May 22nd, 2024, 9:01 am

I always get existential dread watching that close stuff yes. It could literally be the end of all life on earth as we know it. Like everything would end. There would be no tomorrow for anyone.

Could be part of the Arietids which are due soon.

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Postby redmanjp » May 22nd, 2024, 7:26 pm

maj. tom wrote:I always get existential dread watching that close stuff yes. It could literally be the end of all life on earth as we know it. Like everything would end. There would be no tomorrow for anyone.

Could be part of the Arietids which are due soon.


if it was an existential threat we would have been warned by NASA long before- not so?

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Re: Astronomy

Postby st7 » May 22nd, 2024, 11:30 pm

redmanjp wrote:
maj. tom wrote:I always get existential dread watching that close stuff yes. It could literally be the end of all life on earth as we know it. Like everything would end. There would be no tomorrow for anyone.

Could be part of the Arietids which are due soon.


if it was an existential threat we would have been warned by NASA long before- not so?


what good would warning do us lol

i'd rather live in bliss and freak out for the last few days rather than the months before they could warn us in.

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Re: Astronomy

Postby maj. tom » May 23rd, 2024, 6:32 am

If they even detect it at all. Space is big and wide in all steradian and NASA is now putting tracking systems in place, but again, space is big and wide.

After 4.5 billion years Earth's orbit would have more or less been cleared of most significant debris. So if something big enough would suddenly pose a threat, the orbital mechanics of such an object would not be something we are expecting along any known path or trajectory. It would likely be an previously uncalculated approach due to chaos factors of other bodies interacting with gravitational bodies far out past our solar system in the Oort Cloud, and possibly that nudge already happened a million years ago. Or the residue of one interaction from 250 million years ago. There has been a proposal with some evidence that the Chicxulub asteroid came from the Oort cloud in such a manner, and that day was the worst day in history right? https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2021/02/new-theory-behind-asteroid-that-killed-the-dinosaurs/


And even if detected, what's the game plan? A scenario like the Deep Impact movie is a more realistic best outcome if we could attempt to deflect it in time. Hayabusa2 took about 4 years to reach its target.

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Re: Astronomy

Postby xtech » May 23rd, 2024, 8:57 am

Nothing a few A.I controlled gigaton smart bombs can’t handle. Mankind could just sit back and relax

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Re: Astronomy

Postby maj. tom » June 18th, 2024, 8:07 am

Using the LIGO experiment for the detection of Gravity Waves, scientists have changed textbook knowledge in Astronomy again with the discovery of how the heavy elements were made. It's common knowledge that it was a Type 2 Supernova. But since the 1950s scientists were concerned that the mathematics of that explanation could not account for many of the heavy elements and beyond like Au and Pt because of the energy required and what was released in a SN2.

In 2017 they collected new data with LIGO and it was published last year, and is now full mainstream schooling.

It is now known that most of the heavy elements were created in a rapid-process during the collision of two neutron stars rather than a Type 2 Supernova.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-star-collisions-forge-the-universes-heaviest-elements/
https://archive.is/J3opq


It means that the dust cloud that formed Earth and our solar system billions of years ago was also part of that violent primordial process. We are not just Supernova stardust as was always thought, but also neutron star collision material. There is so much more to observe and discover with more powerful telescopes, experiments and examination of our own system's presolar grains far out in space.

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Re: Astronomy

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » June 25th, 2024, 2:31 pm

China's Chang'e-6 lunar probe has returned to Earth with the first ever samples from the Moon's unexplored far side.

The probe landed in the Inner Mongolia desert on Tuesday, after a nearly two-month long mission that was fraught with risks.

Scientists believe samples could answer key questions about how planets are formed.

China is the only country to achieve the technically challenging feat of landing on the far side of the Moon, having done so before in 2019.


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Re: Astronomy

Postby maj. tom » June 25th, 2024, 2:39 pm

Therefore soon moonrocks aren't going to be the rarest and most valuable things on Earth.

Selling moonrocks are also illegal as all of it previously belonged to the US Government from the Apollo missions. A federal court set the value of the moon rocks at $50,800 per gram in one such court case.

The Apollo samples already answered the question about Earth/Moon formation and confirmed the Theia Impact theory since the 1970s.

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Postby redmanjp » June 25th, 2024, 2:51 pm

st7 wrote:
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maj. tom wrote:I always get existential dread watching that close stuff yes. It could literally be the end of all life on earth as we know it. Like everything would end. There would be no tomorrow for anyone.

Could be part of the Arietids which are due soon.


if it was an existential threat we would have been warned by NASA long before- not so?


what good would warning do us lol

i'd rather live in bliss and freak out for the last few days rather than the months before they could warn us in.


depends- for some threats it could be that parts of earth remain safe and we at least have advanced warning to go there. or some underground bunker.

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Re: Astronomy

Postby blazing » June 26th, 2024, 8:34 pm

Hopefully they establish a moon colony some time in the future

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Re: Astronomy

Postby blazing » June 27th, 2024, 3:30 pm

China opens Chang'e 6 return capsule containing samples from moon's far side
https://www.space.com/chang-e-6-moon-fa ... ule-opened

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Re: Astronomy

Postby bluefete » August 6th, 2024, 6:50 pm

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Re: Astronomy

Postby st7 » August 12th, 2024, 5:03 pm

Reservoir of liquid water found deep in Martian rocks

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czxl849j77ko

Scientists have discovered a reservoir of liquid water on Mars - deep in the rocky outer crust of the planet.

The findings come from a new analysis of data from Nasa’s Mars Insight Lander, which touched down on the planet back in 2018.


The lander carried a seismometer, which recorded four years' of vibrations - Mars quakes - from deep inside the Red Planet.

Analysing those quakes - and exactly how the planet moves - revealed "seismic signals" of liquid water.

While there is water frozen at the Martian poles and evidence of vapour in the atmosphere, this is the first time liquid water has been found on the planet.

The findings are published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
Insight's scientific mission ended in December 2022, after the lander sat quietly listening to "the pulse of Mars" for four years.

In that time, the probe recorded more than 1,319 quakes.

By measuring how fast seismic waves travel, scientists have worked out what material they are most likely to be moving through.

"These are actually the same techniques we use to prospect for water on Earth, or to look for oil and gas," explained Prof Michael Manga, from the University of California, Berkeley, who was involved in the research.

The analysis revealed reservoirs of water at depths of about six to 12 miles (10 to 20km) in the Martian crust.

“Understanding the Martian water cycle is critical for understanding the evolution of the climate, surface and interior,” said lead researcher Dr Vashan Wright, from UC San Diego’s Scripps Institution of Oceanography.

Prof Manga added that water was "the most important molecule in shaping the evolution of a planet". This finding, he said, answers a big question of "where did all the Martian water go?".
Studies of the surface of Mars - with its channels and ripples - show that, in ancient times, there were rivers and lakes on the planet.

But for three billion years, it has been a desert.

Some of that water was lost to space when Mars lost its atmosphere. But, said Prof Manga, here on Earth, "much of our water is underground and there's no reason for that not to be the case on Mars too".


The Insight probe was only able to record directly from the crust beneath its feet, but the researchers expect that there will be similar reservoirs across the planet. If that is the case, they estimate that there is enough liquid water on Mars to form a layer across the surface that would be more than half a mile deep.

However, they point out, the location of this Martian groundwater is not good news for billionaires with Mars colonisation plans who might want to tap into it.

"It's sequestered 10-20km deep in the crust," explained Prof Manga.

"Drilling a hole 10km deep on Mars - even for [Elon] Musk - would be difficult," he told BBC News.

The discovery could also point to another target for the ongoing search for evidence of life on Mars.

"Without liquid water, you don't have life," said Prof Manga. "So if there are habitable environments on Mars, those may be now deep underground."

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Re: Astronomy

Postby sMASH » August 12th, 2024, 9:33 pm

Wonder whats the temp down there .

It might be worth Wille in the future , when Martian flights become cheaper , to dig down to access that water.

Mars don't have as unstable tectonics like here , so it would be safer.

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Re: Astronomy

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » August 14th, 2024, 5:45 pm

Astronauts could be stuck in space for eight months, Nasa says


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Re: Astronomy

Postby MG Man » August 16th, 2024, 8:43 am

After reading Scott Kelly's book, the ISS sounds like a really awful place to spend that much time, especially if you weren't planning on it

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