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sinister_14 wrote:If the people of trinidad allow this action of petrotrin being shut down an allow who is responsible for petrotrin being in debt get away free....they really stupid.....it is not the workers fault this happen it is solely management and the governments fault....they mismanaged the company and did nothing until now...why???...to fill their pockets and their friend pockets with a new investment..
...open all yuh fuckkkking eyes nah the government only fuckkkkking up d people of trinidad...
sMASH wrote:^^sabga
I hear what you are saying but if management didnt run the company to the ground and did proper servicing of the plants they would of produce more and profits would have been increased and the salary bill would seem smaller base on the profit....but they intentionally run it to the ground...but why judge these ppl on their salary...what they do the average person cannot do it....they put their life at risk every day working their....its like working on a ticking time bomb....i think these ppl deserve the salary....i could say that because i work in the energy industry...it have too much small minded ppl living in this country if someone works for money than them they hating..toting feeling...and glad to see them lose their job....Redress10 wrote:sinister_14 wrote:If the people of trinidad allow this action of petrotrin being shut down an allow who is responsible for petrotrin being in debt get away free....they really stupid.....it is not the workers fault this happen it is solely management and the governments fault....they mismanaged the company and did nothing until now...why???...to fill their pockets and their friend pockets with a new investment..
...open all yuh fuckkkking eyes nah the government only fuckkkkking up d people of trinidad...
The base wage rates for labourers, craft-workers, tradesmen, technicians, supervisory and clerical level staff at Petrotrin are significantly higher than the average rates within the industry. In many cases, they are more than double the market rates.
https://energynow.tt/blog/how-do-petrot ... rgy-sector
According to the Energy Chamber's data, a foreman at Petrotrin earns approximately $22,000 monthly compared to a foreman in the private oil sector who earned just above $12,000.
For senior level jobs however, the trend changes, with Petrotrin senior managers, in many cases earning less than their counterparts in the private oil sector.
A senior engineer at Petrotrin earns a minimum of around $30,000, while the industry average is just under $45,000, a significant gap.
http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2017-01- ... ges-higher.
OWTU had them dancing all the way off the cliff.
That last few lines you typed is what I gathered from social media and tt ppl in generalsinister_14 wrote:I hear what you are saying but if management didnt run the company to the ground and did proper servicing of the plants they would of produce more and profits would have been increased and the salary bill would seem smaller base on the profit....but they intentionally run it to the ground...but why judge these ppl on their salary...what they do the average person cannot do it....they put their life at risk every day working their....its like working on a ticking time bomb....i think these ppl deserve the salary....i could say that because i work in the energy industry...it have too much small minded ppl living in this country if someone works for money than them they hating..toting feeling...and glad to see them lose their job....Redress10 wrote:sinister_14 wrote:If the people of trinidad allow this action of petrotrin being shut down an allow who is responsible for petrotrin being in debt get away free....they really stupid.....it is not the workers fault this happen it is solely management and the governments fault....they mismanaged the company and did nothing until now...why???...to fill their pockets and their friend pockets with a new investment..
...open all yuh fuckkkking eyes nah the government only fuckkkkking up d people of trinidad...
The base wage rates for labourers, craft-workers, tradesmen, technicians, supervisory and clerical level staff at Petrotrin are significantly higher than the average rates within the industry. In many cases, they are more than double the market rates.
https://energynow.tt/blog/how-do-petrot ... rgy-sector
According to the Energy Chamber's data, a foreman at Petrotrin earns approximately $22,000 monthly compared to a foreman in the private oil sector who earned just above $12,000.
For senior level jobs however, the trend changes, with Petrotrin senior managers, in many cases earning less than their counterparts in the private oil sector.
A senior engineer at Petrotrin earns a minimum of around $30,000, while the industry average is just under $45,000, a significant gap.
http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2017-01- ... ges-higher.
OWTU had them dancing all the way off the cliff.
agent007 wrote:Interestingly enough, Ancil Roget made reference to this company and amongst other things where basically he was trying to say that something is up where future control/ownership of Petrotrin's E&P unit. Furthermore, the dude who made the video which circulated on social media where he brought information to us whilst driving his vehicle made references to this company.
Now this post is not a protest about the E&P shutdown and wider Petrotrin restructure as I support the government's decision on this one, however, I just want to know (if possible), who are the true owners of NiQuan Energy Trinidad Limited and what is their projected growth forecasts like or at least what is their short-to-medium term strategic plan? The typical web-search information obtained on NiQuan thus far reveals something very questionable.
But the ppl hating on these ppl do not understand the ripple effect of this.......these workers hire trade and skill worker to do work on their homes...they support bars..small parlour...taxi...small road side vendors...the list goes on and on...so let them keep hating soon it would reach them as well....gastly369 wrote:That last few lines you typed is what I gathered from social media and tt ppl in generalsinister_14 wrote:I hear what you are saying but if management didnt run the company to the ground and did proper servicing of the plants they would of produce more and profits would have been increased and the salary bill would seem smaller base on the profit....but they intentionally run it to the ground...but why judge these ppl on their salary...what they do the average person cannot do it....they put their life at risk every day working their....its like working on a ticking time bomb....i think these ppl deserve the salary....i could say that because i work in the energy industry...it have too much small minded ppl living in this country if someone works for money than them they hating..toting feeling...and glad to see them lose their job....Redress10 wrote:sinister_14 wrote:If the people of trinidad allow this action of petrotrin being shut down an allow who is responsible for petrotrin being in debt get away free....they really stupid.....it is not the workers fault this happen it is solely management and the governments fault....they mismanaged the company and did nothing until now...why???...to fill their pockets and their friend pockets with a new investment..
...open all yuh fuckkkking eyes nah the government only fuckkkkking up d people of trinidad...
The base wage rates for labourers, craft-workers, tradesmen, technicians, supervisory and clerical level staff at Petrotrin are significantly higher than the average rates within the industry. In many cases, they are more than double the market rates.
https://energynow.tt/blog/how-do-petrot ... rgy-sector
According to the Energy Chamber's data, a foreman at Petrotrin earns approximately $22,000 monthly compared to a foreman in the private oil sector who earned just above $12,000.
For senior level jobs however, the trend changes, with Petrotrin senior managers, in many cases earning less than their counterparts in the private oil sector.
A senior engineer at Petrotrin earns a minimum of around $30,000, while the industry average is just under $45,000, a significant gap.
http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2017-01- ... ges-higher.
OWTU had them dancing all the way off the cliff.
There are no guarantees in life, whole industries and companies rise and fall all the time. Yes, management is to blame but if you are working for a company that is poorly run and know it going downhill and expecting nothing to happen you have to take some responsibility also.sinister_14 wrote:I hear what you are saying but if management didnt run the company to the ground and did proper servicing of the plants they would of produce more and profits would have been increased and the salary bill would seem smaller base on the profit....but they intentionally run it to the ground...but why judge these ppl on their salary...what they do the average person cannot do it....they put their life at risk every day working their....its like working on a ticking time bomb....i think these ppl deserve the salary....i could say that because i work in the energy industry...it have too much small minded ppl living in this country if someone works for money than them they hating..toting feeling...and glad to see them lose their job....
Yes i agree...but in companies like these...no manager is going to listen to an average employees concern...neilsingh100 wrote:There are no guarantees in life, whole industries and companies rise and fall all the time. Yes, management is to blame but if you are working for a company that is poorly run and know it going downhill and expecting nothing to happen you have to take some responsibility also.sinister_14 wrote:I hear what you are saying but if management didnt run the company to the ground and did proper servicing of the plants they would of produce more and profits would have been increased and the salary bill would seem smaller base on the profit....but they intentionally run it to the ground...but why judge these ppl on their salary...what they do the average person cannot do it....they put their life at risk every day working their....its like working on a ticking time bomb....i think these ppl deserve the salary....i could say that because i work in the energy industry...it have too much small minded ppl living in this country if someone works for money than them they hating..toting feeling...and glad to see them lose their job....
bushwakka wrote:randolphinshan wrote:Monkey Man wrote:What is an OWTU??
Official White Toteee Unit
Hope they start to import fuel quickly. Finally might get some good diesel.
bredda man, if u could afford the better quality diesel @ $11+/litre....gimme a wok in ur garden nah
sinister_14 wrote:I hear what you are saying but if management didnt run the company to the ground and did proper servicing of the plants they would of produce more and profits would have been increased and the salary bill would seem smaller base on the profit....but they intentionally run it to the ground...but why judge these ppl on their salary...what they do the average person cannot do it....they put their life at risk every day working their....its like working on a ticking time bomb....i think these ppl deserve the salary....i could say that because i work in the energy industry...it have too much small minded ppl living in this country if someone works for money than them they hating..toting feeling...and glad to see them lose their job....Redress10 wrote:sinister_14 wrote:If the people of trinidad allow this action of petrotrin being shut down an allow who is responsible for petrotrin being in debt get away free....they really stupid.....it is not the workers fault this happen it is solely management and the governments fault....they mismanaged the company and did nothing until now...why???...to fill their pockets and their friend pockets with a new investment..
...open all yuh fuckkkking eyes nah the government only fuckkkkking up d people of trinidad...
The base wage rates for labourers, craft-workers, tradesmen, technicians, supervisory and clerical level staff at Petrotrin are significantly higher than the average rates within the industry. In many cases, they are more than double the market rates.
https://energynow.tt/blog/how-do-petrot ... rgy-sector
According to the Energy Chamber's data, a foreman at Petrotrin earns approximately $22,000 monthly compared to a foreman in the private oil sector who earned just above $12,000.
For senior level jobs however, the trend changes, with Petrotrin senior managers, in many cases earning less than their counterparts in the private oil sector.
A senior engineer at Petrotrin earns a minimum of around $30,000, while the industry average is just under $45,000, a significant gap.
http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2017-01- ... ges-higher.
OWTU had them dancing all the way off the cliff.
sinister_14 wrote:Yes i agree...but in companies like these...no manager is going to listen to an average employees concern...neilsingh100 wrote:There are no guarantees in life, whole industries and companies rise and fall all the time. Yes, management is to blame but if you are working for a company that is poorly run and know it going downhill and expecting nothing to happen you have to take some responsibility also.sinister_14 wrote:I hear what you are saying but if management didnt run the company to the ground and did proper servicing of the plants they would of produce more and profits would have been increased and the salary bill would seem smaller base on the profit....but they intentionally run it to the ground...but why judge these ppl on their salary...what they do the average person cannot do it....they put their life at risk every day working their....its like working on a ticking time bomb....i think these ppl deserve the salary....i could say that because i work in the energy industry...it have too much small minded ppl living in this country if someone works for money than them they hating..toting feeling...and glad to see them lose their job....
tr1ad wrote:^ no but you could always make movements if you realise the direction they heading
Joshie23 wrote:Soo..since we're 'cleaning up', eliminating wastage and saving the country's economy and what not, who's next? WASA, TTEC, TSTT..Cabinet?
Refinery shutting down in the coming months according to Espinet and then out of the blue, some saviour company, origins unknown, will place a bid for it.The_Honourable wrote:Ok sooo... the rumors from last week was pretty much spot on?
It wasn't "fake news" according to Guy Smiley?
Bear in mind, this is the same Guy Smiley that magnified A&V in Parliament only to deny any affiliation to them when the 'Fake Oil' scandal unraveled..we still take them seriously?
nervewrecker wrote:Have men saying petro cyar shut down dan. Dey there to stay!tr1ad wrote:^ no but you could always make movements if you realise the direction they heading
nervewrecker wrote:Have men saying petro cyar shut down dan. Dey there to stay!tr1ad wrote:^ no but you could always make movements if you realise the direction they heading
Redress10 wrote:nervewrecker wrote:Have men saying petro cyar shut down dan. Dey there to stay!tr1ad wrote:^ no but you could always make movements if you realise the direction they heading
There are so many refineries world wide and right here in the caribbean that shut down or pause due to unfavourable market conditions.
I really starting to wonder if men like Rouget and his "comrades" have any clue about the oil business.
sinister_14 wrote:I hear what you are saying but if management didnt run the company to the ground and did proper servicing of the plants they would of produce more and profits would have been increased and the salary bill would seem smaller base on the profit....but they intentionally run it to the ground...but why judge these ppl on their salary...what they do the average person cannot do it....they put their life at risk every day working their....its like working on a ticking time bomb....i think these ppl deserve the salary....i could say that because i work in the energy industry...it have too much small minded ppl living in this country if someone works for money than them they hating..toting feeling...and glad to see them lose their job....Redress10 wrote:sinister_14 wrote:If the people of trinidad allow this action of petrotrin being shut down an allow who is responsible for petrotrin being in debt get away free....they really stupid.....it is not the workers fault this happen it is solely management and the governments fault....they mismanaged the company and did nothing until now...why???...to fill their pockets and their friend pockets with a new investment..
...open all yuh fuckkkking eyes nah the government only fuckkkkking up d people of trinidad...
The base wage rates for labourers, craft-workers, tradesmen, technicians, supervisory and clerical level staff at Petrotrin are significantly higher than the average rates within the industry. In many cases, they are more than double the market rates.
https://energynow.tt/blog/how-do-petrot ... rgy-sector
According to the Energy Chamber's data, a foreman at Petrotrin earns approximately $22,000 monthly compared to a foreman in the private oil sector who earned just above $12,000.
For senior level jobs however, the trend changes, with Petrotrin senior managers, in many cases earning less than their counterparts in the private oil sector.
A senior engineer at Petrotrin earns a minimum of around $30,000, while the industry average is just under $45,000, a significant gap.
http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2017-01- ... ges-higher.
OWTU had them dancing all the way off the cliff.
You every worked in the energy industry or anywhere at all?Redress10 wrote:sinister_14 wrote:Yes i agree...but in companies like these...no manager is going to listen to an average employees concern...neilsingh100 wrote:There are no guarantees in life, whole industries and companies rise and fall all the time. Yes, management is to blame but if you are working for a company that is poorly run and know it going downhill and expecting nothing to happen you have to take some responsibility also.sinister_14 wrote:I hear what you are saying but if management didnt run the company to the ground and did proper servicing of the plants they would of produce more and profits would have been increased and the salary bill would seem smaller base on the profit....but they intentionally run it to the ground...but why judge these ppl on their salary...what they do the average person cannot do it....they put their life at risk every day working their....its like working on a ticking time bomb....i think these ppl deserve the salary....i could say that because i work in the energy industry...it have too much small minded ppl living in this country if someone works for money than them they hating..toting feeling...and glad to see them lose their job....
BUT you claim to be OWTU...A UNION....What average employee you talking about? How refinery could shut down for wage increases and to apply political pressure but for operational and managerial concerns you all become "average employees"![]()
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Hear nah....Trinis really frigging conveniently bipolar inno
tr1ad wrote:Redress10 wrote:nervewrecker wrote:Have men saying petro cyar shut down dan. Dey there to stay!tr1ad wrote:^ no but you could always make movements if you realise the direction they heading
There are so many refineries world wide and right here in the caribbean that shut down or pause due to unfavourable market conditions.
I really starting to wonder if men like Rouget and his "comrades" have any clue about the oil business.
shhh
oil ha morney dan
Redress10 wrote:tr1ad wrote:Redress10 wrote:nervewrecker wrote:Have men saying petro cyar shut down dan. Dey there to stay!tr1ad wrote:^ no but you could always make movements if you realise the direction they heading
There are so many refineries world wide and right here in the caribbean that shut down or pause due to unfavourable market conditions.
I really starting to wonder if men like Rouget and his "comrades" have any clue about the oil business.
shhh
oil ha morney dan
Ofcourse it does....But do the ones we hire to manage it know how to make money from it. Remember, just because something is profitable doesn't mean that you know how to make it profitable. So if the people don't know how to get it then we will always be in a mess.
An oil refinery owned by the government of trinidad and tobago would operate differently to one owned by a private equity firm etc. Which one you think would be more efficient and be attractive to investors. Trinidad and Tobago don't operate in a vacuum. We need to seriously start bench marking and best practices. We need serious change and modern engineering plans.
Redress10 wrote:sinister_14 wrote:Yes i agree...but in companies like these...no manager is going to listen to an average employees concern...neilsingh100 wrote:There are no guarantees in life, whole industries and companies rise and fall all the time. Yes, management is to blame but if you are working for a company that is poorly run and know it going downhill and expecting nothing to happen you have to take some responsibility also.sinister_14 wrote:I hear what you are saying but if management didnt run the company to the ground and did proper servicing of the plants they would of produce more and profits would have been increased and the salary bill would seem smaller base on the profit....but they intentionally run it to the ground...but why judge these ppl on their salary...what they do the average person cannot do it....they put their life at risk every day working their....its like working on a ticking time bomb....i think these ppl deserve the salary....i could say that because i work in the energy industry...it have too much small minded ppl living in this country if someone works for money than them they hating..toting feeling...and glad to see them lose their job....
BUT you claim to be OWTU...A UNION....What average employee you talking about? How refinery could shut down for wage increases and to apply political pressure but for operational and managerial concerns you all become "average employees"![]()
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Hear nah....Trinis really frigging conveniently bipolar inno
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