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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby Kalisnakov » October 15th, 2016, 9:37 pm

Until (if) he wins n kicks they A$$ out of merica

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby Miktay » October 17th, 2016, 11:55 am

shogun wrote:Not true. In fact the media helped him get as far as he did. If you go look at the Republican primaries, the media was covering Trump even more than candidates doing better in the polls, at the time. However, because Trumps statements and actions got more traction they abdicated their duty and disproportionately covered him over the other candidates.

The media covered him with negative slant: Washington Post, NY Times, Guardian UK etc

But 2 ur point there's no such thing as bad publicity 2a business man.

Romney and Palin had equally loyal followers. Trump's more polarizing nature just makes it seem that way. Couple that with the fact that the ALT-Right nuts and White supremacist groups swarm internet polls, forums and rabidly inundate them with comments and attack anyone that disagrees has just made his followers reputation worse. These are basically the SAME people that supported Romney and Palin.

Yep. That's democracy in action. Right wing nutters as well as tree hugging socialists all get a vote.

Do you know there were 13 similar attacks on consulates and embassies which resulted in even more American deaths under Bush? For some strange reason though Republicans have NEVER conducted a SINGLE investigation into ANY of those. Only the ONE that occured under Hillary. How convenient. The Benghazi investigation has the notoriety of being the longest investigation of it's kind in history and cost tax payers $2M. Yet, they found nothing. So it's strange to hear Trump supporters routinely ask for her to be jailed when the Republican led investigation turned up nothing indictable. Again, strange.

Not just Benghazi. The South China sea, Yemen, Syria, Iraq, Iran etc.

Hiliary like Dubya & Obama follow the neocon script of foreign policy. The middle east iz in flaming disarray as a direct result of these policies.

Lastly, it's interesting that you're blaming Hillary for the Russian situation when Putin is clearly being the aggressor. What is the US to do? Trumps strategy of blushing every time Putin compliments him, will only put the US in more danger. Putin is Ex-KGB, while Trump is well... Trump

There's nothing clear in geopolitics.

It's only clear if u get news from one side: i.e. the propaganda wing of the American Empire i.e CNN, Fox, WPost, NY Times.

And if you get your news fm the shills of the American Empire your pov probably looks something like thiz.

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Theres a fair amount of bluster on either side. Those seeking a more balanced perspective will also consider the propaganda arm of the Russian Empire:
https://www.rt.com/

There's at least two sides 2 ever story and the 'truth' usually lies somewhere in between.

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby teems1 » October 17th, 2016, 1:25 pm

^^

More like the allies saw what Russia was capable of after WW2 on the eastern front with respect to territories.

After the war the Soviet Union occupies Eastern Europe and establishes pro-Soviet Communist governments in countries including Bulgaria, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Poland, Romania, and East Germany. Establishment of the Federal People's Republic of Yugoslavia.

There's a reason eastern Europe is in such disarray now when compared to western Europe.

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby sMASH » October 17th, 2016, 4:01 pm

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby sMASH » October 18th, 2016, 11:40 am

Clinton News Network

The same people who were shouting that the sanders' supporters were being violent at the DNC primary nomination convention trying to smear the sanders supporters. They cited incidents including throwing chairs around.


When the video released that captures the chair indecent, it showed a guy lifting it over his head, then PUTTING it back down on the ground. And that was it. The only indecent.
They then continued for the weeks and a half after still smearing the sanders supporters, but replaced the 'throwing chairs' with 'brandishing chairs'.


They also ran repeated interviews and reports with the barber's boxer of her being in the midst of the violent Sanders supporters, and reading fro her life when she had to exit the convention hall.

They did not show the clip of her actually exiting, she's she was emailing and jeering at the same violent people whom she claimed made her fear for her life.





Same CNN.... they are the dnc equivalent to fox

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby De Dragon » October 18th, 2016, 11:43 am

^^ But what about the other media that carry the unflattering Trump stories? Are so many of them biased as well?

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby Miktay » October 18th, 2016, 12:21 pm

De Dragon wrote:^^ But what about the other media that carry the unflattering Trump stories? Are so many of them biased as well?


Trump does and says things that puts him in an unflattering light.

And the mainstream media iz owned lock stock and barrel by the 1%.

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That said while the MM cant ignore or outright invent stories...cuz they are for-profit entities...they can slant coverage in a direction.

Russell Peters explains.

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby Miktay » October 18th, 2016, 12:24 pm

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby De Dragon » October 18th, 2016, 1:15 pm

The thing is Trump seems to have arrived at a perfect moment in history where many Americans are jaded by the status quo. Rather than build intelligently on that we get misogyny, xenophobia, which contestant was too unattractive to molest etc. Hilary is widely disliked, but her team is more adept at managing her so that she says the right things. Trump, well............

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby Daran » October 18th, 2016, 3:40 pm

De Dragon wrote:The thing is Trump seems to have arrived at a perfect moment in history where many Americans are jaded by the status quo. Rather than build intelligently on that we get misogyny, xenophobia, which contestant was too unattractive to molest etc. Hilary is widely disliked, but her team is more adept at managing her so that she says the right things. Trump, well............


Whether he is intentially doing this or not, Trump represents a big portion of American views. You can argue that a more intelligent anti-establishment candidate would never garner such support.

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Postby sMASH » October 18th, 2016, 3:55 pm

De Dragon wrote:The thing is Trump seems to have arrived at a perfect moment in history where many Americans are jaded by the status quo. Rather than build intelligently on that we get misogyny, xenophobia, which contestant was too unattractive to molest etc. Hilary is widely disliked, but her team is more adept at managing her so that she says the right things. Trump, well............

Yes, the media is owned by a few and takes directives from their cheque signers.

People today are generally sheep, most don't see how evil Hillary is. Some see how bad she is, but are offended by trump's overt persona.
Some who don't like Hillary are bat sh!t, and the Hillary supporters use that and inflate it, to lean on all non Hillary supporters.


I mean, most of what they fear trump WILL do, Hillary already did, supported it or defended it.

Yes team Hillary is an, experienced management team, but their main focus is to get in the power positions, and the link positions to generate and siphon money into their purses.... (coffers, they at a global level).

My problem is that in doing so, they would take ecologically tragic routes, and cause more strife in the middle east.



Trump is a clong, and the congress will carry on despite him.

To Hillary, the position of president is the next business acquisition to strategically place the Clinton foundation.

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

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Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » October 18th, 2016, 4:12 pm

Daran wrote:
De Dragon wrote:The thing is Trump seems to have arrived at a perfect moment in history where many Americans are jaded by the status quo. Rather than build intelligently on that we get misogyny, xenophobia, which contestant was too unattractive to molest etc. Hilary is widely disliked, but her team is more adept at managing her so that she says the right things. Trump, well............


Whether he is intentially doing this or not, Trump represents a big portion of American views. You can argue that a more intelligent anti-establishment candidate would never garner such support.


I used to pass off all these conspiracies as just nonsense for the uneducated. Rubbish like illuminati which it still is btw,
Alex Jones is still an idiot who dwell in deep dark crazy conspiracies that goes as far as satan and all this rubbish.

But to my surprise the Wikileaks from Hillary has actually shown that some of these conspiracies are actually true, color me surprised here. Now I see why Trump is so popular, he is winning this Election.

Julian Assange says he has a lot more bomb shell to drop on Hillary, lets see if he will really destroy Hillary.

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby Miktay » October 18th, 2016, 4:15 pm

Whomever gets the majority electoral votes will face stiff opposition.

AKA 4 years of lame curry duck.

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby Daran » October 18th, 2016, 4:18 pm

ED you might enjoy this, Google docs summary of some of Hillary's worst emails.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/ ... b&sle=true

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby Miktay » October 18th, 2016, 4:22 pm

EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:
But to my surprise the Wikileaks from Hillary has actually shown that some of these conspiracies are actually true, color me surprised here. Now I see why Trump is so popular, he is winning this Election.

Julian Assange says he has a lot more bomb shell to drop on Hillary, lets see if he will really destroy Hillary.


Mass Media not giving Assange coverage.

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Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » October 18th, 2016, 4:29 pm

Daran wrote:ED you might enjoy this, Google docs summary of some of Hillary's worst emails.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/ ... b&sle=true


And check out this video, this is being shared a lot right now 2.5 million views in just 2 days so far, looks like Hillary is screwed


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Postby sMASH » October 18th, 2016, 5:06 pm

Miktay wrote:
EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:
But to my surprise the Wikileaks from Hillary has actually shown that some of these conspiracies are actually true, color me surprised here. Now I see why Trump is so popular, he is winning this Election.

Julian Assange says he has a lot more bomb shell to drop on Hillary, lets see if he will really destroy Hillary.


Mass Media not giving Assange coverage.

CNN actually said u could get arrested for having the documents that wikileaks published, and they they are media so they will let u see and hear what they want u to see and hear.

Because of their patriot act, that may very well be possible to be charges as a traitor for having wikikeaks ddocuments as ludicrous as it may be.


America is increasingly resembling the propaganda state of Nazi Germany.



To show how biased their media is, there is little coverage of the miscarriages of justice on the Dakota added pipeline protests. Its vertically blackout by the legacy media.
If it weren't for new media like democracy now, the humanist report, redacted tonight, no body would know there is a big protest against the oil pipeline, which will devastate the drinking water instant area.
And America already has a problem for drinking water.

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » October 18th, 2016, 5:26 pm

Why are people suddenly backing away from Hillary? all the time they were Pro Hillary and Trump this and Trump that.

Suddenly these same regular folks are distancing themselves.

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby shogun » October 18th, 2016, 5:43 pm

^Ent...

Especially this guy..


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Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » October 18th, 2016, 5:49 pm

^ And yet Robert admits he has no clue how Trump could get this far and be this popular, poor Robert has no clue that people aren't voting for Trump they are voting against people like Hillary and the left. Pat Condell said it the best


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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby Miktay » October 18th, 2016, 5:50 pm

Thiz aint over by a long shot.

Hiliary needs more women 2 come forward and say theyve gotten felt up by Da Donald.

Or Donald called them names and their feelings was hurt and they self esteem went down.

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby shogun » October 18th, 2016, 5:52 pm

EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote: Julian Assange says he has a lot more bomb shell to drop on Hillary, lets see if he will really destroy Hillary.


Interesting. Assange told Bill Maher he was going to "look into" the Trump campaign as well and that he'd focus on getting his tax info and releasing it. I guess Assange isn't about "truth" after all.

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Postby sMASH » October 18th, 2016, 8:10 pm

Miktay wrote:Thiz aint over by a long shot.

Hiliary needs more women 2 come forward and say theyve gotten felt up by Da Donald.

Or Donald called them names and their feelings was hurt and they self esteem went down.

When Donald was first base, Clinton was hitting home runs like that!

But u would say it wasn't her, but her husband. Then u would have forgotten that she referenced his conduct, discredited his accusers, even bullying them.

She also represented a child rapist, allegedly removed evidence, and was astonished to know he had passed a polygraph test, and nested she lost faith in polygraphs.

Donald is small ting in front Hillary.

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby meccalli » October 18th, 2016, 8:24 pm

EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:I used to pass off all these conspiracies as just nonsense for the uneducated. Rubbish like illuminati which it still is btw,
Alex Jones is still an idiot who dwell in deep dark crazy conspiracies that goes as far as satan and all this rubbish.

But to my surprise the Wikileaks from Hillary has actually shown that some of these conspiracies are actually true, color me surprised here. Now I see why Trump is so popular, he is winning this Election.

Julian Assange says he has a lot more bomb shell to drop on Hillary, lets see if he will really destroy Hillary.


The elite isn't comprised of atheists like yourself. They convince the masses to ridicule the idea of it but they're neck deep in it.

Gunderson spoke about mk ultra, satanism and pedophile rings and the officials involved in it including the clintons ages ago. Cathy O Brien came out with her testimony around that time as well.

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby Miktay » October 18th, 2016, 8:34 pm

^^Atheism iz just a cover.

And pedophilia iz nothing new. It's rampant in political and elitist circles.

COVER UP?
Ex-British Prime Minister Named in Alleged Government Pedophile Docs
Ted Heath was named in a secret government dossier about alleged pedophiles operating in parliament 30 years before he died—but the claims were never tested in court.


NICO HINES
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08.03.15 9:14 AM ET
LONDON — Former British Prime Minister Sir Edward Heath is being investigated over child sex abuse allegations.

Ted Heath, who died in 2005, has been the subject of unsubstantiated speculation linking him to the sexual abuse of boys for years. The Daily Beast can reveal that he was named in a secret government dossier obtained by a senior Labour Party politician in 1984—but the allegations never made it to the courtroom.
Heath is now the most high-profile person named by investigators working on inquiries into an alleged VIP network of pedophiles who operated at the highest echelons of British public life.

Barbara Castle, a Member of the European Parliament at the time, said she had been given copies of classified documents from the Home Office, which oversees British law enforcement, proving there was a clandestine investigation underway into sex abusers in Parliament. The results of that investigation by government officials never wound up being published or reaching a court of law, but Castle claimed that Heath was one of those implicated.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... abuse.html

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Re: RE: Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby shogun » October 18th, 2016, 9:01 pm

sMASH wrote:But u would say it wasn't her, but her husband. Then u would have forgotten that she referenced his conduct, discredited his accusers, even bullying them.

She also represented a child rapist, allegedly removed evidence, and was astonished to know he had passed a polygraph test, and nested she lost faith in polygraphs.

Donald is small ting in front Hillary.


Allyuh fellas allergic to facts, or they just don't matter?

She "allegedly" removed evidence? Not sure where you got that nugget of BS, but i'm not surprised.


Hillary was appointed by judge Maupin Cummings (the judge deliberating the case) to represent the defendant. It was her job and for a fledgling lawyer to refuse would have consequences. She didn't want the job, but essentially had no choice. The US constitution CLEARLY states that EVERY person deserves his/her day in court. Every murderer, rapist and thief. What's the problem here?

Also, I still don't understand all the shock about Hillary discrediting and questioning the women accusing Bill Clinton of sexual misconduct? Yes, she was the first lady and Bill the leader of the free world, but this was her husband. You know of many women that act rationally when other women accuse their spouse of something that personally embarrassing?

If your wife/SO hears the same accusations from random women and has little to no reaction... chances are...
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