COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago (Local Updates & Discussions Only)

[matr1x]

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Well done!

[sMASH]

Okay, two tings I coudl avoid.
Nobidy want me on Alco, done mad enough when I sober.


N e ways, alllll deaths are covid deaths.
Giant pump and dump exercise. Pump up the figures, dump thr vaxes on the population.

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You can't even spell properly and you want to spin conspiracy theories?

Avoiding bot censors.
If u understood that msg means ur not a robot.

[Gem_in_i]

Another co-worker died

[pugboy]

maybe the cases are really plateauing and going down
but brace for the 0micron surge anytime now

[gastly369]

maybe the cases are really plateauing and going down
but brace for the 0micron surge anytime now

Low testing... Low cases

[hover11]

maybe the cases are really plateauing and going down
but brace for the 0micron surge anytime now

From close to 1000 cases to 400 and all that movement.....not likely

[KM_2NR]

Govt made a decision aboup el carnival?

[j.o.e]

Low testing definitely but at some point I feel we could be plateauing between vaccination and exposed persons, remember some of them would’ve been asymptomatic.
If the case is mild enough plenty people will just ride it out and don’t test.

[DMan7]

^ Fully vaxxed carnival 2022

[Dohplaydat]

Govt made a decision aboup el carnival?

It doesn't make sense to have anything at this point, they can but it won't be the same. There's no vibe this year. So much deaths and restrictions still.

It's best we cancel our delay it.

[paid_influencer]

1/
Ignore the case numbers. The daily case numbers reflect the limitations of testing capacity on the island on any given day.

2/
Look at the death numbers. Death rates give the real trend, but with a ~2 week lag time. Deaths for the past few days have fallen from a height of 30+ a day to 16.

3/ What happened 2 weeks ago to explain the trend? We had the closure of schools and the end of the election season. We have finished "paying the price" for those activities, for now.

4/ We going to start back "paying the price" for all the Christmas limes and shopping again in two weeks.

[matr1x]

Real ppl recover today. Over 1000

[KM_2NR]

Govt made a decision aboup el carnival?

It doesn't make sense to have anything at this point, they can but it won't be the same. There's no vibe this year. So much deaths and restrictions still.

It's best we cancel our delay it.

It may not make sense or common sense but when has the govt taken that into consideration

[hover11]

Firstly, the CMO said, "Anyone that has passed away and has a covid-positive test at the time of death will be classed as covid-positive, dying with covid."

https://newsday.co.tt/2021/12/29/cmo-de ... 19-deaths/

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

Firstly, the CMO said, "Anyone that has passed away and has a covid-positive test at the time of death will be classed as covid-positive, dying with covid."

https://newsday.co.tt/2021/12/29/cmo-de ... 19-deaths/

Underlying cause of death.
It is the medical reasoning for stating the cause of death.
This was discussed before in this thread and this link was posted before also
https://www-doh.state.nj.us/doh-shad/vi ... fDeath.pdf

[De Dragon]

Firstly, the CMO said, "Anyone that has passed away and has a covid-positive test at the time of death will be classed as covid-positive, dying with covid."

https://newsday.co.tt/2021/12/29/cmo-de ... 19-deaths/

Underlying cause of death.
It is the medical reasoning for stating the cause of death.
This was discussed before in this thread and this link was posted before also
https://www-doh.state.nj.us/doh-shad/vi ... fDeath.pdf

You feel he eh know dat
Is hoover, so the willful ignorance is a feature you should be acquainted with by now

[sMASH]

Firstly, the CMO said, "Anyone that has passed away and has a covid-positive test at the time of death will be classed as covid-positive, dying with covid."

https://newsday.co.tt/2021/12/29/cmo-de ... 19-deaths/

Underlying cause of death.
It is the medical reasoning for stating the cause of death.
This was discussed before in this thread and this link was posted before also
https://www-doh.state.nj.us/doh-shad/vi ... fDeath.pdf

Like dealing off ladders.
Other states in the US expanded on the same rationale when accident victims were added to covid death numbers, and the death certificate reflected the cause due to accident.


If u diabetic and covid, and u didn't get ur meds in time, that's diabetes, but using the opportunity to buff the death stats,

[Redress10]

Firstly, the CMO said, "Anyone that has passed away and has a covid-positive test at the time of death will be classed as covid-positive, dying with covid."

https://newsday.co.tt/2021/12/29/cmo-de ... 19-deaths/

Underlying cause of death.
It is the medical reasoning for stating the cause of death.
This was discussed before in this thread and this link was posted before also
https://www-doh.state.nj.us/doh-shad/vi ... fDeath.pdf

Like dealing off ladders.
Other states in the US expanded on the same rationale when accident victims were added to covid death numbers, and the death certificate reflected the cause due to accident.


If u diabetic and covid, and u didn't get ur meds in time, that's diabetes, but using the opportunity to buff the death stats,

If you are being treated for diabetes and you contract covid and end up in ICU due to covid and pass away because the system is overwhelmed so you couldn't get the medication to treat said diabetes then your cause of death is Covid.

Hiv/Aids causes things such as cancer, heart failure, organ failure etc. Those deaths are regarded as aids related deaths.

As long as there is a systemic infection then the cause of all the ailments are attributed to that infection.

[X_Factor]

If i am positive, did the test on the 20th/12
Never received call / email wrt to results as of today......do you think my case would have been reflected in any of the daily updates?

[sMASH]

Firstly, the CMO said, "Anyone that has passed away and has a covid-positive test at the time of death will be classed as covid-positive, dying with covid."

https://newsday.co.tt/2021/12/29/cmo-de ... 19-deaths/

Underlying cause of death.
It is the medical reasoning for stating the cause of death.
This was discussed before in this thread and this link was posted before also
https://www-doh.state.nj.us/doh-shad/vi ... fDeath.pdf

Like dealing off ladders.
Other states in the US expanded on the same rationale when accident victims were added to covid death numbers, and the death certificate reflected the cause due to accident.


If u diabetic and covid, and u didn't get ur meds in time, that's diabetes, but using the opportunity to buff the death stats,

If you are being treated for diabetes and you contract covid and end up in ICU due to covid and pass away because the system is overwhelmed so you couldn't get the medication to treat said diabetes then your cause of death is Covid.

Hiv/Aids causes things such as cancer, heart failure, organ failure etc. Those deaths are regarded as aids related deaths.

As long as there is a systemic infection then the cause of all the ailments are attributed to that infection.

The problem is, if ur not in icu, just in hospital and not getting ur meds. The was the biggest complaint, no treatment until the covee test, which was taking long, and people got deprived, and suffered the fate.

Still getting inside info that things in a mess, they Mismanaging the system and making it worse than it needs to be.

[Numb3r4]

What's with the mismanagement that we keep hearing about...
What is the nature don't they have experienced doctors on the wards?
How bad is the mismanagement are they delaying diagnosis? are they not administering treatments in time?
Do they have the medication/drugs that they need or are they using substitutes?

Could anyone describe the "mismanagement"?

[adnj]

Firstly, the CMO said, "Anyone that has passed away and has a covid-positive test at the time of death will be classed as covid-positive, dying with covid."

https://newsday.co.tt/2021/12/29/cmo-de ... 19-deaths/

Underlying cause of death.
It is the medical reasoning for stating the cause of death.
This was discussed before in this thread and this link was posted before also
https://www-doh.state.nj.us/doh-shad/vi ... fDeath.pdf

Like dealing off ladders.
Other states in the US expanded on the same rationale when accident victims were added to covid death numbers, and the death certificate reflected the cause due to accident.


If u diabetic and covid, and u didn't get ur meds in time, that's diabetes, but using the opportunity to buff the death stats,

Your convoluted statement seems to be a bit reductionist. You may be trying to create a patent answer to what a COVID-related death is but there isn't one.

How death causes are recorded

Part I and II of a death certificate ask what caused a death and what other factors contributed to it. If COVID-19 appears among the causes and contributors, CDC guidance counts that as a COVID-19-related death.

Part I asks for the “immediate cause” of death, followed by any “conditions that led to the immediate cause,” the CDC explains in guidelines for certifying COVID-19 fatalities. For example: In some COVID-19 cases, the immediate cause is an affliction that arose from the disease, such as pneumonia, while COVID-19 gets listed under that as an underlying condition that led to death. In other words, COVID-19 caused the pneumonia.

https://www.aamc.org/news-insights/how- ... omplicated

[Kenjo]

If i am positive, did the test on the 20th/12
Never received call / email wrt to results as of today......do you think my case would have been reflected in any of the daily updates?

System too overwhelmed to call you so that’s one of the reasons for the delayed calls

[matr1x]

What's with the mismanagement that we keep hearing about...
What is the nature don't they have experienced doctors on the wards?
How bad is the mismanagement are they delaying diagnosis? are they not administering treatments in time?
Do they have the medication/drugs that they need or are they using substitutes?

Could anyone describe the "mismanagement"?

Stock gotten on Tuesday and run out by Friday and no one knows why.


Doctors stealing on using in their own practice.

[adnj]

What's with the mismanagement that we keep hearing about...
What is the nature don't they have experienced doctors on the wards?
How bad is the mismanagement are they delaying diagnosis? are they not administering treatments in time?
Do they have the medication/drugs that they need or are they using substitutes?

Could anyone describe the "mismanagement"?

Stock gotten on Tuesday and run out by Friday and no one knows why.


Doctors stealing on using in their own practice.

So get some proof.

Turn them in.

Make a difference instead of just noise.

[sMASH]

What's with the mismanagement that we keep hearing about...
What is the nature don't they have experienced doctors on the wards?
How bad is the mismanagement are they delaying diagnosis? are they not administering treatments in time?
Do they have the medication/drugs that they need or are they using substitutes?

Could anyone describe the "mismanagement"?

Not the doctors/treatment end, for the most part they doing what they can with what they have.
The administration and clerical end. The conduit, go between to link the services to the people that need them, that getting bogged down in typical govt office worker competence.

The covid protocols would be an added layer of complexity, on an already inflated workload and the admins just not up to the task of sorting all that, on the fly.




Funeral services say they have capacity, but families not collecting the bodies in time.
Families saying they not gettin the bodies in time.
Bodies getting sent to the wrong people, and places.


The Admins not processing the paper work properly and in time

Just applying my industry eye on what I was told.

[sMASH]

Firstly, the CMO said, "Anyone that has passed away and has a covid-positive test at the time of death will be classed as covid-positive, dying with covid."

https://newsday.co.tt/2021/12/29/cmo-de ... 19-deaths/

Underlying cause of death.
It is the medical reasoning for stating the cause of death.
This was discussed before in this thread and this link was posted before also
https://www-doh.state.nj.us/doh-shad/vi ... fDeath.pdf

Like dealing off ladders.
Other states in the US expanded on the same rationale when accident victims were added to covid death numbers, and the death certificate reflected the cause due to accident.


If u diabetic and covid, and u didn't get ur meds in time, that's diabetes, but using the opportunity to buff the death stats,

Your convoluted statement seems to be a bit reductionist. You may be trying to create a patent answer to what a COVID-related death is but there isn't one.

How death causes are recorded

Part I and II of a death certificate ask what caused a death and what other factors contributed to it. If COVID-19 appears among the causes and contributors, CDC guidance counts that as a COVID-19-related death.

Part I asks for the “immediate cause” of death, followed by any “conditions that led to the immediate cause,” the CDC explains in guidelines for certifying COVID-19 fatalities. For example: In some COVID-19 cases, the immediate cause is an affliction that arose from the disease, such as pneumonia, while COVID-19 gets listed under that as an underlying condition that led to death. In other words, COVID-19 caused the pneumonia.

https://www.aamc.org/news-insights/how- ... omplicated

Yeah, it is, cause u keep it simple, to push the covid death numbers up to frighten the people.

[widdyphuck]

Another co-worker died

Gender?
Age?
Vaccination Status?
Kids left behind?

[matr1x]

What's with the mismanagement that we keep hearing about...
What is the nature don't they have experienced doctors on the wards?
How bad is the mismanagement are they delaying diagnosis? are they not administering treatments in time?
Do they have the medication/drugs that they need or are they using substitutes?

Could anyone describe the "mismanagement"?

Stock gotten on Tuesday and run out by Friday and no one knows why.


Doctors stealing on using in their own practice.

So get some proof.

Turn them in.

Make a difference instead of just noise.

It was reported in 2015 and 2017 and nothing came out if it. Now contracts are getting very interesting where specific vendors are chosen and money passing.

You clearly have never been in the public Healthcare system

[triniterribletim]

Lost my accountant to COVID. The man was fully vaccinated and boosted ( three shots of Sinopharm ) and COVID still lick him up. He had some underlying conditions though, which is why he got boosted ASAP but he ended up passing on the 13th. Family now got the body for the funeral which is today. RIP Joe. You were a real soldier.