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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby maj. tom » July 11th, 2024, 7:02 am

Canada warns of AI-driven Russian 'bot farm' spreading disinformation online
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-russian-bot-farm-1.7259665

The Canadian Centre for Cyber Security said individuals affiliated with RT, formerly known as Russia Today, have been using a social media bot farm at the direction of the Russian government.

Officials said fake social media accounts were created to spread disinformation in the United States and abroad.

The accounts often posed as Americans and promoted messages in support of Russian government objectives, they said.

When asked to comment on the claims, the RT press office said: "Farming is a beloved pastime for millions of Russians."

Last month, NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said during a visit to Canada that disinformation is a threat to the defensive alliance and its efforts to arm Ukraine against Russia's invasion.

"Disinformation is a big challenge because we see that Russia is fuelling disinformation in many ways. We also see China is doing that," Stoltenberg told The Canadian Press.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » July 11th, 2024, 9:49 am

Here comes the authoritarian censor-ship !

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dohplaydat » July 11th, 2024, 12:00 pm

Bot farm could relax, Biden sabotaging himself this election.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » July 11th, 2024, 4:57 pm

Shoulda hire netanyahu to drone strike them like they did to Sulemani

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » July 14th, 2024, 2:01 pm

https://youtu.be/SxqX_5UkNps?si=mNpBNmplVTrt2gL4


Tulsi gabbard on megyn Kelly, talking about the foolishness thst biden doing

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dizzy28 » July 17th, 2024, 7:23 am

OTD ten years ago

Putinistas shot down a civilian airliner
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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby adnj » July 17th, 2024, 7:43 am

The withdrawal of Russian warships from Crimea is the latest indication that against all odds, Ukraine is actually winning the war at sea. When Russia first began the blockade of Ukraine’s ports on the eve of the full-scale invasion in February 2022, few believed the ramshackle Ukrainian Navy could seriously challenge the dominance of the mighty Russian Black Sea Fleet. Once hostilities were underway, however, it soon became apparent that Ukraine had no intention of ceding control of the Black Sea to Putin without a fight.

Beginning with the April 2022 sinking of the Russian Black Sea Fleet flagship, the Moskva, Ukraine has used a combination of domestically produced drones and missiles together with Western-supplied long-range weapons to strike a series of devastating blows against Putin’s fleet. Cruise missiles delivered by Kyiv’s British and French partners have played an important role in this campaign, but the most potent weapons of all have been Ukraine’s own rapidly evolving fleet of innovative marine drones.



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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » July 17th, 2024, 8:40 am

That sound like macron wrote that...

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dohplaydat » July 17th, 2024, 9:15 am

adnj wrote:The withdrawal of Russian warships from Crimea is the latest indication that against all odds, Ukraine is actually winning the war at sea. When Russia first began the blockade of Ukraine’s ports on the eve of the full-scale invasion in February 2022, few believed the ramshackle Ukrainian Navy could seriously challenge the dominance of the mighty Russian Black Sea Fleet. Once hostilities were underway, however, it soon became apparent that Ukraine had no intention of ceding control of the Black Sea to Putin without a fight.

Beginning with the April 2022 sinking of the Russian Black Sea Fleet flagship, the Moskva, Ukraine has used a combination of domestically produced drones and missiles together with Western-supplied long-range weapons to strike a series of devastating blows against Putin’s fleet. Cruise missiles delivered by Kyiv’s British and French partners have played an important role in this campaign, but the most potent weapons of all have been Ukraine’s own rapidly evolving fleet of innovative marine drones.



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Literally makes no difference in the actual landwar though.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby adnj » July 17th, 2024, 9:50 am

Dohplaydat wrote:
Literally makes no difference in the actual landwar though.


Hmmph. Really?

US$10B to US$20B in agricultural exports will definitely have an effect on Ukraine's ability to make purchases for men and materiel, not to mention the ripple effect of reducing the rate of inflation around the world.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » July 21st, 2024, 11:08 am

When you have to legislate support because the average person don't support u willingly .


Will theuy kidnap people to send them to front lines like elensky too?

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » July 25th, 2024, 4:50 pm

Ukraine is on trouble .
They neeed to end , but one want to negotiate via a powerful world leader and the other is a comedian
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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dohplaydat » July 25th, 2024, 5:36 pm

sMASH wrote:Ukraine is on trouble .
They neeed to end , but one want to negotiate via a powerful world leader and the other is a comedian IMG_20240725_160851.jpg


AFU is getting surrounded by RAF in Kharkov.

Such a freaking pointless waste of lives on both sides. Ukraine getting used by the west and it'll probably come back to bite them in the ass in future.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » July 25th, 2024, 6:11 pm

I totally forgot , the bloggers said Russia kinsal'd up to 50 British and French trainers in Ukraine .


Yes, Russia get beat navy wise , but this war wasn't dependent on sea battles .


The 1 km per day territory acquisition rate will start to increase as the Ukraine forces wanes.


Is like doing a titration; u keep adding and adding slowly with no change until u start to see glimmers of results , until bam.... Mission accomplished .

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dohplaydat » July 25th, 2024, 6:27 pm

sMASH wrote:I totally forgot , the bloggers said Russia kinsal'd up to 50 British and French trainers in Ukraine .


Yes, Russia get beat navy wise , but this war wasn't dependent on sea battles .


The 1 km per day territory acquisition rate will start to increase as the Ukraine forces wanes.


Is like doing a titration; u keep adding and adding slowly with no change until u start to see glimmers of results , until bam.... Mission accomplished .


Very true, Ukrainians are waking up to the fact that they are dying needlessly

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » July 26th, 2024, 9:55 am

Peole getting tie up with how long this taking.

They say if Russia has more troops why they don't flood the place and win fast.

If they send plenty more troops it would mostly mean more deaths and losses per Ukraine strike.

So they will send enough troops to deal with the Ukraine forces ...
So, u send enough to win, but not so much that it's easy to rack up easy kills.


When u watch western propaganda videos about d day , storming the beaches of Normandy , we get to think that that is how wars are fought: plenty men, all at once , hard and fast .


But no. Is really just small clumps of engagements but very many , spread out over vast areas .
Each needing specific attention to address.

Now that the Ukraine forces have been depleted , the engagements are easier and faster coming now. Advancement is speeding up.

Additionally , the fortified places have been breached and the places now don't have fortifications.... They are supposed to tho, but so much corruption , the resources didn't reach ..

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby adnj » July 26th, 2024, 1:26 pm

sMASH wrote:Peole getting tie up with how long this taking.
They say if Russia has more troops why they don't flood the place and win fast.
If they send plenty more troops it would mostly mean more deaths and losses per Ukraine strike.
So they will send enough troops to deal with the Ukraine forces ...
So, u send enough to win, but not so much that it's easy to rack up easy kills.
When u watch western propaganda videos about d day , storming the beaches of Normandy , we get to think that that is how wars are fought: plenty men, all at once , hard and fast .

But no. Is really just small clumps of engagements but very many , spread out over vast areas .
Each needing specific attention to address.
Now that the Ukraine forces have been depleted , the engagements are easier and faster coming now. Advancement is speeding up.
Additionally , the fortified places have been breached and the places now don't have fortifications.... They are supposed to tho, but so much corruption , the resources didn't reach ..


Hmmpf. Really?

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Russia's GDP grew 5.5% year-over-year over the third quarter of 2023, according to data from the Russian government. But most of that growth is being fueled by the nation's monster military spending, Foucart said, with plans for the Kremlin to spend a record 36.6 trillion rubles, or $386 billion on defense this year.

"Military pay, ammunition, tanks, planes, and compensation for dead and wounded soldiers, all contribute to the GDP figures. Put simply, the war against Ukraine is now the main driver of Russia's economic growth" Foucart said in an op-ed for The Conversation this week.

Other areas of Russia's economy are hurting as the war drags on. Moscow is slammed with a severe labor shortage, thanks to young professionals fleeing the country or being pulled into the conflict. The nation is now short around 5 million workers, according to one estimate, which is causing wages to soar.

Inflation is high at 7.4% — nearly double the 4% target of its central bank. Meanwhile, direct investment in the country has collapsed, falling around $8.7 billion in the first three quarters of 2023, per data from Russia's central bank.

That all puts the Kremlin in a tough position, no matter the outcome of the war in Ukraine. Even if Russia wins, the nation can't afford to rebuild and secure Ukraine, due to the financial costs as well as the impact of remaining isolated from the rest of the global market.

Western nations have shunned trade with Russia since it invaded Ukraine in 2022, which economists have said could severely crimp Russia's long-term economic growth.

As long as it remains isolated, Russia's "best hope" is to become "entirely dependent" on China, one of its few remaining strategic allies, Foucart said.

Meanwhile, the costs of rebuilding its own nation are already "massive," he added, pointing to problems like broken infrastructure and social unrest in Russia.

"A protracted stalemate might be the only solution for Russia to avoid total economic collapse," Foucart wrote. "The Russian regime has no incentive to end the war and deal with that kind of economic reality. So it cannot afford to win the war, nor can it afford to lose it. Its economy is now entirely geared towards continuing a long and ever deadlier conflict."

Other economists have warned of trouble coming for Russia amid the toll of its war in Ukraine. Russia's economy will see significantly more degradation ahead, one London-based think tank recently warned, despite talk of Russia's resilience in the face of Western sanctions.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » July 26th, 2024, 1:51 pm

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That had occurred when reps was holding up funds for Ukraine , when they wanted more border spending
It only serves to show how funny the American side of teh funding is; they get in a jam and poof magic money appears from the accounting to save the day . They have billions in lose change lying around .
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sMASH wrote:Peole getting tie up with how long this taking.
They say if Russia has more troops why they don't flood the place and win fast.
If they send plenty more troops it would mostly mean more deaths and losses per Ukraine strike.
So they will send enough troops to deal with the Ukraine forces ...
So, u send enough to win, but not so much that it's easy to rack up easy kills.
When u watch western propaganda videos about d day , storming the beaches of Normandy , we get to think that that is how wars are fought: plenty men, all at once , hard and fast .

But no. Is really just small clumps of engagements but very many , spread out over vast areas .
Each needing specific attention to address.
Now that the Ukraine forces have been depleted , the engagements are easier and faster coming now. Advancement is speeding up.
Additionally , the fortified places have been breached and the places now don't have fortifications.... They are supposed to tho, but so much corruption , the resources didn't reach ..


Hmmpf. Really?

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Russia's GDP grew 5.5% year-over-year over the third quarter of 2023, according to data from the Russian government. But most of that growth is being fueled by the nation's monster military spending, Foucart said, with plans for the Kremlin to spend a record 36.6 trillion rubles, or $386 billion on defense this year.

"Military pay, ammunition, tanks, planes, and compensation for dead and wounded soldiers, all contribute to the GDP figures. Put simply, the war against Ukraine is now the main driver of Russia's economic growth" Foucart said in an op-ed for The Conversation this week.

Other areas of Russia's economy are hurting as the war drags on. Moscow is slammed with a severe labor shortage, thanks to young professionals fleeing the country or being pulled into the conflict. The nation is now short around 5 million workers, according to one estimate, which is causing wages to soar.

Inflation is high at 7.4% — nearly double the 4% target of its central bank. Meanwhile, direct investment in the country has collapsed, falling around $8.7 billion in the first three quarters of 2023, per data from Russia's central bank.

That all puts the Kremlin in a tough position, no matter the outcome of the war in Ukraine. Even if Russia wins, the nation can't afford to rebuild and secure Ukraine, due to the financial costs as well as the impact of remaining isolated from the rest of the global market.

Western nations have shunned trade with Russia since it invaded Ukraine in 2022, which economists have said could severely crimp Russia's long-term economic growth.

As long as it remains isolated, Russia's "best hope" is to become "entirely dependent" on China, one of its few remaining strategic allies, Foucart said.

Meanwhile, the costs of rebuilding its own nation are already "massive," he added, pointing to problems like broken infrastructure and social unrest in Russia.

"A protracted stalemate might be the only solution for Russia to avoid total economic collapse," Foucart wrote. "The Russian regime has no incentive to end the war and deal with that kind of economic reality. So it cannot afford to win the war, nor can it afford to lose it. Its economy is now entirely geared towards continuing a long and ever deadlier conflict."

Other economists have warned of trouble coming for Russia amid the toll of its war in Ukraine. Russia's economy will see significantly more degradation ahead, one London-based think tank recently warned, despite talk of Russia's resilience in the face of Western sanctions.
I dint know what to say... Its a war economy .
Only pertinent differences is, the money spend on weapons are ACTUALLY converted into weapons and not just disappearing into contractors accounts .
Foreign direct investment reversed , where they nationalized a lot of foreign brands , so the profits stay inside the country . No more royalties leave.


Pretty good assessment ... But not foretelling doom.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dizzy28 » July 28th, 2024, 11:13 am

Condolences to the Putin fanboys. Wagner lost 80 men in an ambush by Tuaregs in Mali.
Grey zone a notorious Russian miliblogger with lots of ukro Russo content among the dead

For context France lost 40 soldiers in their entire time in Mali
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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » July 28th, 2024, 12:04 pm

*War expanded *

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dizzy28 » July 28th, 2024, 2:17 pm

Desert bois on Hiluxes shot down a Mil24 and destroyed several MRAPs of the Russkies. Piles of Wagnerites in Mali means less to fight in Ukraine.

Russia - Militarily incompetent the world over.
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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dohplaydat » July 28th, 2024, 3:00 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:Condolences to the Putin fanboys. Wagner lost 80 men in an ambush by Tuaregs in Mali.
Grey zone a notorious Russian miliblogger with lots of ukro Russo content among the dead

For context France lost 40 soldiers in their entire time in Mali20240728_111012.jpg


Man if you know anything about Russia is just like uncle Sam, they will come back with full force and firetruck up a lot of innocent people.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » July 28th, 2024, 3:14 pm

Dohplaydat wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:Condolences to the Putin fanboys. Wagner lost 80 men in an ambush by Tuaregs in Mali.
Grey zone a notorious Russian miliblogger with lots of ukro Russo content among the dead

For context France lost 40 soldiers in their entire time in Mali20240728_111012.jpg


Man if you know anything about Russia is just like uncle Sam, they will come back with full force and firetruck up a lot of innocent people.
Prolly just America trying to bait a response .

War in Ukraine remains on course as per .


Most of what we know about wars come from American movies , where they go on a vengeance mission to annihilate the group that slapped them.

Since ww2 , usa never won any wars. The best they got was winning battles and devastating regions . And then had to spend decades and billions to occupy to show some sort of competence .

As soon as they pull out, it goes back to the the peole they were fighting .


Tit for tat , with a very big tat is how America fights wars and they don't win.



What America is good at is destabilizing a region and regime change ... And that what they hoping to do...
Ukraine remains on course.
Any other engagement will be according to objectives in the area and in concordance with the regional authority .

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » July 28th, 2024, 3:19 pm

This is what Russia objective is .

The lil skirmishes are not the focus.


But, i do expect action in Syria and Iraq to be escalated. No inside info, just that it's a region that will be in play when Isreal decide to go ape sheit on Lebanon
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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dohplaydat » July 28th, 2024, 6:17 pm

sMASH wrote:
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Dizzy28 wrote:Condolences to the Putin fanboys. Wagner lost 80 men in an ambush by Tuaregs in Mali.
Grey zone a notorious Russian miliblogger with lots of ukro Russo content among the dead

For context France lost 40 soldiers in their entire time in Mali20240728_111012.jpg


Man if you know anything about Russia is just like uncle Sam, they will come back with full force and firetruck up a lot of innocent people.
Prolly just America trying to bait a response .

War in Ukraine remains on course as per .


Most of what we know about wars come from American movies , where they go on a vengeance mission to annihilate the group that slapped them.

Since ww2 , usa never won any wars. The best they got was winning battles and devastating regions . And then had to spend decades and billions to occupy to show some sort of competence .

As soon as they pull out, it goes back to the the peole they were fighting .


Tit for tat , with a very big tat is how America fights wars and they don't win.



What America is good at is destabilizing a region and regime change ... And that what they hoping to do...
Ukraine remains on course.
Any other engagement will be according to objectives in the area and in concordance with the regional authority .



You're mostly right, but it's blankety true. USA bombed the screwed out of Iraq in 2003, they freaking loved doing it because it showed the world what American can do.

Russia doesn't have the American war machine logistics but it does have a lot of meat and a lot of ammunition, and now drones, glide missiles and other tech.

That Mali force gonna get their ass locked

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby paid_influencer » July 28th, 2024, 7:34 pm

since the ukraine invasion russia does have war machine logistics tho also now also iran and china too war machine prodution

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » July 28th, 2024, 8:29 pm

Yeah, but they don't have as much capacity as America to spread all over
Thats why I think the Mali thing is an attempt to get them to spread thin.



Usa is still in Iraq. Their bases get regularly targeted by the lil factions.
Iraq asked them to leave and they say okay, jess now.

I see that erdogan saying he will enter gaza to help gaza.
Recently turkeiye and Syria say they will try to solve their border issues.

Russia and Syria said they will try to solve Syrian issues.



Those are mostly the kurds teamed up with usa to occupy oil and grain feilds.
And the only places that isis exits are the usa occupied territory in Syria.





The false flag in golan heights is isreal trying to escalate. Hesbolah trying to stretch it out as long as they can but it gonna happen .

Syria and turkey and iraqi forces getting them selves in a fear for when they have to throw down.


What KSA and Jordan will do, have no idea
But them is egg sucker's.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dizzy28 » July 28th, 2024, 9:04 pm

The Malian Tuaregs offered the captured Russians who survived the slaughter to Ukraine as a gesture of solidarity on their common enemy.

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