COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago (Local Updates & Discussions Only)

[MaxPower]

Hello Joe,

Every thread must have a gun man.

[sMASH]

60+1=61
latest person had recent travel history.

[KM_2NR]

What y'all think it'll take for the government to shut down the country ? More cases , more deaths , looting and panic all over.

[Dave]

Deaths and sudden spike I figure

[Dohplaydat]

60+1=61
latest person had recent travel history.

The travel history criteria might be useful for those who are doing contact tracing but it is utterly frustrating to see how little info we have.

For all the 'good' the government has done over the last two weeks it is clear there is a narrative they're spewing and it needs to stop. They are hiding information and the lack of denial of these leaks is proof.

We need to TEST as much as possible, test entire companies, entire streets sometimes, we have a few thousand test kits with 10k on the way? test and process as much as you can.

If CARPHA and other facilities aren't maxed out right now then we are WASTING time.

Only testing will reveal the true extent as to how much this has spread locally. Why is no one in the opposition tackling this?

UNC choose to fight for bars, fight for the trinis in Barbados, now going behind the government back releasing private medical detail and now they make a 180 to want a total lockdown....FFS. I never wanted to believe we had such a waste of time opposition but they are worse than I imagined.

Doctors at Mt. Hope posting on Facebook, "Why ppl asking for test if they showing no symptoms, SMH"......I always say these doctors are brainless bookworms who get lazy and complacent.

HOW THE FADDA WILL BE KNOW WHEN OUR PEAK WILL BE WITHOUT TESTING.

I have called 3 times for a test because I have been having mild flu like symptoms, but because I was honest and told them I had no travel history until Dec. And that yes I have been in contact with a few who travelled in, but it was minimal.

If i was more prudent and considerate I could have infected dozens by now, but I chose to self isolate until 10 days after my symptoms are gone (they still haven't).

[teems1]

Deaths and sudden spike I figure

Sudden spike with deaths but only due to community spread.

That 41 cases from the Guadeloupe cruise ship counts as a spike, but a controlled one since they were unable to infect others.

If it weren't for those cruisers, we'd be at 20, which isn't as bad.

[Dohplaydat]

What y'all think it'll take for the government to shut down the country ? More cases , more deaths , looting and panic all over.

Scientifically, we should have the data to decide when and if we do it, but our testing is entirely inadequate right now. So maybe when people are dying while waiting for treatment and panic takes over the country (re: looting is a possibility). Then...maybe then.

[death365]

some positives ...


no 7 dayz Adventist
no jevooha witness
no hare krishna people chanting loud early morning
no loud music at bars till 3 am
no beggars passing

[KM_2NR]

some positives ...


no 7 dayz Adventist
no jevooha witness
no hare krishna people chanting loud early morning
no loud music at bars till 3 am
no beggars passing

barely traffic
reduced work load
less people in general

[carluva]

What y'all think it'll take for the government to shut down the country ? More cases , more deaths , looting and panic all over.

In the context of the bigger picture, shutting down the country and a SOE should always be a last resort.

The economy still has to move on. We simply cannot afford to shut down the country and shut down the economy. There is a fine balance that has to be found and shutting down the country tips the scale in favour of economic distress, for the short to medium term. This has financial implications.

Legislation may also have to be enacted as, under a shutdown, all business will be forced to close, but then, how can you legally mandate Supermarkets, Pharmacies, Ports for trading and other necessary services to continue to operate. There are legal implications and challenges here. Then of course you will have human resource issues as how can people working in these businesses be expected to come to work when everyone else in the country is under lockdown?

State of Emergency - the above and other negative National implications are a direct result. I am not sure how many will remember the SOE in 1990 during the coup attempt. I was a young fella, but I remember that being quite unnerving for my parents with the lockdown, army presence everywhere and very restrictive movements.

The "simple" solution, and I use that word very loosely, is that as long as we follow the guidance of those in authority and the medical practitioners, we protect ourselves, we protect the front line workers and we ease the burden. So the social distancing, staying at home, venturing out only when necessary, avoiding gatherings and crowd and all the other mantras we have heard for the last few weeks need to be practiced and then we can do our small part to help.

People in this country, through their actions and behaviours, are begging for a lockdown and a SOE. I sincerely hope that those people can deal with the National ramifications of such and when those very people realise how badly it has affected them and the rest of the nation, they simply realise that they were to blame. Of course this is T&T which is not a real place, so why even assume that some of us have that level of intellect.

[Keyser Soze]

Arouca Police station temporarily closed for sanitation.
one officer with a recent travel history developed flu like symptoms

[Redress10]

60+1=61
latest person had recent travel history.

The travel history criteria might be useful for those who are doing contact tracing but it is utterly frustrating to see how little info we have.

For all the 'good' the government has done over the last two weeks it is clear there is a narrative they're spewing and it needs to stop. They are hiding information and the lack of denial of these leaks is proof.

We need to TEST as much as possible, test entire companies, entire streets sometimes, we have a few thousand test kits with 10k on the way? test and process as much as you can.

If CARPHA and other facilities aren't maxed out right now then we are WASTING time.

Only testing will reveal the true extent as to how much this has spread locally. Why is no one in the opposition tackling this?

UNC choose to fight for bars, fight for the trinis in Barbados, now going behind the government back releasing private medical detail and now they make a 180 to want a total lockdown....FFS. I never wanted to believe we had such a waste of time opposition but they are worse than I imagined.

Doctors at Mt. Hope posting on Facebook, "Why ppl asking for test if they showing no symptoms, SMH"......I always say these doctors are brainless bookworms who get lazy and complacent.

HOW THE FADDA WILL BE KNOW WHEN OUR PEAK WILL BE WITHOUT TESTING.

I have called 3 times for a test because I have been having mild flu like symptoms, but because I was honest and told them I had no travel history until Dec. And that yes I have been in contact with a few who travelled in, but it was minimal.

If i was more prudent and considerate I could have infected dozens by now, but I chose to self isolate until 10 days after my symptoms are gone (they still haven't).

Testing without any symptoms is dumb because viral infections require a certain amount of viral load in your body in order for the test to be accurate. This varies according to type of tests and virus. The symptoms are usually a sign that your immune system is fighting off an infection hence the "symptoms". The main symptoms of a viral infection are usually a very high fever and very painful sore throat that lasts for days and prevents you from eating etc. No fever usually means no viral infection.

Also important is the incubation period which is 2-14 days. This means that if you were in contact with a suspected person and no symptoms present after 14 days then you are technically clear. You are not magically start developing symptoms in the 3rd, 4th or 6th week etc. A person is not going to start becoming sick because they interacted with someone 2 months ago.

All this talk about testing is dumb. There is no cure/treatment for corona that is why the important thing is social distancing and isolation. Testing is just a numbers game and a waste of scarce resources. The reason ppl are being sent to Caura and Couva is because of forced isolation to protect the healthy population. People hearing about ventilators and ICUs and think the minute you test positive you are immediately placed in ICU and on a ventilator. This is not true. Most ppl in developed countries who contract it are at home basically self medicating and treating it similarly to the flu.

Alot of ppl don't know the difference between a flu and a common cold. Plenty ppl who think that they are suffering "flu like" symptoms are in fact suffering the common cold. Unless you have personally experienced the flu you won't know what flu like symptoms feel like.

Social distancing, self quarantine and isolation prevents the virus from spreading by assuming that everyone already has the virus. The same way that safe sex is promoted to prevent the transmission of stds by assuming that everyone has an std. Its the same exact concept.

[carluva]

My sister in England told me yesterday that one of her colleagues was tested positive for Corona virus. Granted, this colleague has pre-existing Crohn Disease, she said that her symtoms included high fever that just would not break despite the use of paracetemol, a piercing sore throat and difficulty breathing.

Only when symptoms begin to show can you do the test as the viral load in the body is high enough to give a proper test result. Testing any other time before is a waste. Remember also that many people are asymptomatic, meaning that they have the virus, but their body is defending it well without any signs. On what basis will these people even think to be tested?

That is why the social distancing and proper hygienic measures are necessary. If used effectively, those with the virus can be weeded out and dealt with and measures put in place to treat with the secondary and tertiary people, which should be minimum, as proper social distancing and isolation was done.

Its not science, its just common sense. That is what everyone is preaching this.

Mild flu like symptoms do not warrant a test... It does however warrant that you stay put, isolate yourself and do not go out into public until the symptoms go away. If the symptoms get worse or manifest into that close to COVID-19, call and state the situation and maybe the advice will change at that point.

[aaron17]

http://www.looptt.com/content/young-ada ... soe-needed

[Dohplaydat]

Redress10,

I have symptoms for a week now and have been refused testing because my symptoms aren't bad.

Are you forgetting that 80% of Corvid-19 cases are mild or asymptomatic.

[MaxPower]

Friends,

For the second time please do not call the Covid Hotline and fake symptoms to get a test.

This Trini smartman behavior must stop.

[ST Auto]

Leaving this here

[shake d livin wake d dead]

Post cabinet briefing @ 2pm

[The_Honourable]

Kamla might get cuss.

[shake d livin wake d dead]

Kamla might get cuss.

Might wana slap she down

[zoom rader]

Kamla might get cuss.

Facebook already doing this saying it's traveling injuns bringing this in

[ST Auto]

Watch them dates

[Redress10]

Redress10,

I have symptoms for a week now and have been refused testing because my symptoms aren't bad.

Are you forgetting that 80% of Corvid-19 cases are mild or asymptomatic.

Ok...also remember that this is a contact virus. Who were you in contact with over the last 14-21 days in order for you to have the virus? Is anyone in your family confirmed corona? What abt a close friend? Did you hug this person or did they sneeze or cough on you etc? Did you go around randomly licking surface areas?

Two weeks ago we had our first corona confirmed positive. How would the virus get to you? Are you in close proximity to ppl with the virus? People were already taking necessary precautions such as hand sanitizer, social distancing etc 3 weeks ago. How can you be infected if you as I am assumimg took all these necessary precautions, not around someone who is confirmed infected and haven't been in contact with someone's droplets over the last 14 days.

Like any other disease around...proximity doesn't guarantee infection.

[VII]

But the country closed already,allyuh ain realize ah wah?

And all this politics talk,you all need something far worse than covid to straighten you all out...and Phillip Alexander should shut up,hes waaay out of his league here..

[racy lady]

What about this...

https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-03-23-20-intl-hnk/index.html

3:35 p.m. ET, March 23, 2020
A 13-year-old girl died of coronavirus in Panama

From Stefano Pozzebon in Bogota and CNN's Jackie Castillo in Atlanta

Panama's health ministry confirmed Monday the death of 13-year-old girl due to coronavirus.

According to a statement from the ministry, the girl and a 92-year-old man are the latest patients to die from the virus.

Panama has reported at least 313 cases and three deaths as a result of the coronavirus outbreak, according to Johns Hopkins University.

Allyuh make it vex.... bawling it could only take down old people... watch now...whey Dr. Trotman

CNN

A British diplomat stationed in Hungary has died of coronavirus, the UK foreign office said on Wednesday.

Steven Dick, 37, was the deputy head of mission for Britain in Budapest. According to the statement, he died on Tuesday after contracting the virus.

[Chimera]

Cousin now get a nail chook and call san juan health center for a tetanus injection. They say they dealing with a covid case right now and they would get back to us around 230 on if to come in.

[sMASH]

lock down the county, 3 weeks. nobody on the streets, unless emergency services, public utilities. who get sick , they call, and then treat. ultimate contact spreading prevention.
once u allow people to go out onto the streets, and work, u will get spread. u dont test when u dont have a travel history, u will be denied a test.
right now, the numbers remain good, cause cause of death put as flu or pneumonia or respiratory failure... no covid test, cause no travel history.

[death365]

Cousin now get a nail chook and call san juan health center for a tetanus injection. They say they dealing with a covid case right now and they would get back to us around 230 on if to come in.

thats not true ... if u show symptoms they tell u to call the hotline .... no nurse that dotish to keep u there after u explain what the symptoms are.

[Dohplaydat]

Redress10,

I have symptoms for a week now and have been refused testing because my symptoms aren't bad.

Are you forgetting that 80% of Corvid-19 cases are mild or asymptomatic.

Ok...also remember that this is a contact virus. Who were you in contact with over the last 14-21 days in order for you to have the virus? Is anyone in your family confirmed corona? What abt a close friend? Did you hug this person or did they sneeze or cough on you etc? Did you go around randomly licking surface areas?

Two weeks ago we had our first corona confirmed positive. How would the virus get to you? Are you in close proximity to ppl with the virus? People were already taking necessary precautions such as hand sanitizer, social distancing etc 3 weeks ago. How can you be infected if you as I am assumimg took all these necessary precautions, not around someone who is confirmed infected and haven't been in contact with someone's droplets over the last 14 days.

Like any other disease around...proximity doesn't guarantee infection.

Dude I'm well aware, virus can be spread a million and one ways. Met clients at Hyatt, met endless people at meetings who travelled down after Carnival, shook so many hands etc.

I don't fit their criteria but I should be tested. I'm in close contact with my friend who's an NHS doctor in Birmingham, he said without a doubt they should be testing anyone who has flu like symptoms instead of guessing or assuming.

Things are going to backfire in our ass watch and see. My colleague in work, 2 days after I started feeling ill has been experiencing similar symptoms but with more of a cough and he's still going to the office like normal because he has too (he is doing social distancing but obviously shared surfaces will be hard to avoid).

[Redress10]

What about this...

https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-03-23-20-intl-hnk/index.html

3:35 p.m. ET, March 23, 2020
A 13-year-old girl died of coronavirus in Panama

From Stefano Pozzebon in Bogota and CNN's Jackie Castillo in Atlanta

Panama's health ministry confirmed Monday the death of 13-year-old girl due to coronavirus.

According to a statement from the ministry, the girl and a 92-year-old man are the latest patients to die from the virus.

Panama has reported at least 313 cases and three deaths as a result of the coronavirus outbreak, according to Johns Hopkins University.

Allyuh make it vex.... bawling it could only take down old people... watch now...whey Dr. Trotman

CNN

A British diplomat stationed in Hungary has died of coronavirus, the UK foreign office said on Wednesday.

Steven Dick, 37, was the deputy head of mission for Britain in Budapest. According to the statement, he died on Tuesday after contracting the virus.

Absolutely meaningless...just sensational headlines.

Viruses such as the flu and meningitis could also have varied outcomes. Nothing is written in stone in medicine. There are so many factors always at play that is why prevention is better than cure. You don't know how your body is going to react to ANY virus or illness. No two people react the same to an illness or treatment.

That being said, it is always more difficult for older people to overcome a respiratory illness. So a 60 year old is in a better position than a 70 year old for instance.

Those headlines are suppose to provide even more reason for people to take necessary precautions and not start panic. Btw once it reaches pneumonia, any number could play regardless of age.